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Wed Feb 27, 2019 6:35 pm

Cardiff City issue statement as Emiliano Sala transfer fee remains unpaid and FIFA get involved

Nantes have contacted FIFA but it is understood the deadline isn't today, as reported


By Dominic Booth Cardiff City Correspondent


27th February 2019


Cardiff City have not yet paid the first instalment of the Emiliano Sala transfer fee and have insisted "the authorities must be allowed to determine the facts" around the tragedy.

The club have released a statement after Nantes — with whom the club are engaged in a legal wrangle over the £15million transfer fee for Sala — contacted FIFA for help obtaining the money from Cardiff.

The French club want the first down payment of £5million to be paid in full, believing they are due the fee having agreed the transfer with Cardiff before Sala's death in a plane crash on January 21.

Reports have suggested the deadline for the first instalment was today (Wednesday), but it is understood that is not the case and Cardiff, having sought legal advice, remain in discussions over the next course of action to take.

Cardiff believe the paperwork was not fully completed on the deal, despite being registered with the Welsh FA and despite announcing the club record signing on January 19 shortly after Neil Warnock's side lost 3-0 at Newcastle.


Nantes contact FIFA to demand Emiliano Sala transfer money from Cardiff City as deadline arrives






The club statement reads: "Cardiff City remains committed to ensuring fairness and accountability with respect to the agreement between Cardiff City and FC Nantes, but first and foremost the relevant authorities must be allowed to determine the facts surrounding this tragedy.

"It is inappropriate to comment further at this stage."
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Re: “ CARDIFF CITY TONIGHT ISSUE A STATEMENT “

Thu Feb 28, 2019 8:34 am

Annis as you keep posting the pictures of Sala either standing by a CCFC board or sitting with pen in hand with Ken Choo are you certain that everything is above board and he was a City player?

Just asking in case you've heard something or more likely I've missed it :oops:

Thanks :thumbup:

Re: “ CARDIFF CITY TONIGHT ISSUE A STATEMENT “

Thu Feb 28, 2019 8:44 am

JulesK wrote:Annis as you keep posting the pictures of Sala either standing by a CCFC board or sitting with pen in hand with Ken Choo are you certain that everything is above board and he was a City player?

Just asking in case you've heard something or more likely I've missed it :oops:

Thanks :thumbup:


That signature means nothing until International Clearance has been given.

I have heard that the contract had a few flaws in it and once amended had to be re-signed again. The amended contract was waiting on Sale to sign it but as you know he did not make it.

So officially he was not a Cardiff player.

Re: “ CARDIFF CITY TONIGHT ISSUE A STATEMENT “

Thu Feb 28, 2019 8:49 am

Bakedalasker wrote:
JulesK wrote:Annis as you keep posting the pictures of Sala either standing by a CCFC board or sitting with pen in hand with Ken Choo are you certain that everything is above board and he was a City player?

Just asking in case you've heard something or more likely I've missed it :oops:

Thanks :thumbup:


That signature means nothing until International Clearance has been given.

I have heard that the contract had a few flaws in it and once amended had to be re-signed again. The amended contract was waiting on Sale to sign it but as you know he did not make it.

So officially he was not a Cardiff player.


Thanks :thumbup:

Re: “ CARDIFF CITY TONIGHT ISSUE A STATEMENT “

Thu Feb 28, 2019 9:24 am

JulesK wrote:Annis as you keep posting the pictures of Sala either standing by a CCFC board or sitting with pen in hand with Ken Choo are you certain that everything is above board and he was a City player?

Just asking in case you've heard something or more likely I've missed it :oops:

Thanks :thumbup:



Jules, Sala signed for us and Welsh FA confirmed they received paper work :bluebird:

Re: “ CARDIFF CITY TONIGHT ISSUE A STATEMENT “

Thu Feb 28, 2019 9:51 am

I think we need to pay up or risk a points deduction or transfer ban

Re: “ CARDIFF CITY TONIGHT ISSUE A STATEMENT “

Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:00 am

Forever Blue wrote:
JulesK wrote:Annis as you keep posting the pictures of Sala either standing by a CCFC board or sitting with pen in hand with Ken Choo are you certain that everything is above board and he was a City player?

Just asking in case you've heard something or more likely I've missed it :oops:

Thanks :thumbup:



Jules, Sala signed for us and Welsh FA confirmed they received paper work :bluebird:




It's all guesswork, the club is trying to defend the stance of not paying until all the facts are confirmed, so we will have to wait and see what happens !!!!

No point in people saying we should pay or we shouldn't pay, because none of us knows the full facts, FIFA or the courts will decide and it could take many years to get a full outcome !!!

In the meantime, we should back our team, not Nantes !!!

Re: “ CARDIFF CITY TONIGHT ISSUE A STATEMENT “

Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:04 am

Bluebina wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
JulesK wrote:Annis as you keep posting the pictures of Sala either standing by a CCFC board or sitting with pen in hand with Ken Choo are you certain that everything is above board and he was a City player?

Just asking in case you've heard something or more likely I've missed it :oops:

Thanks :thumbup:



Jules, Sala signed for us and Welsh FA confirmed they received paper work :bluebird:




It's all guesswork, the club is trying to defend the stance of not paying until all the facts are confirmed, so we will have to wait and see what happens !!!!

No point in people saying we should pay or we shouldn't pay, because none of us knows the full facts, FIFA or the courts will decide and it could take many years to get a full outcome !!!

In the meantime, we should back our team, not Nantes !!!


Not saying either at moment, but always stated if Sala was our player then in my opinion we should pay end off :thumbright:

But it’s not guess work Sala did sign with us and the Welsh FA received it, so some facts for you and our club and fans for nearly 4 weeks told the world Sala was our player.


PLEASE EXPLAIN WHERE MY GUESS WORK IS ? ? ?

Re: “ CARDIFF CITY TONIGHT ISSUE A STATEMENT “

Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:11 am

Bakedalasker wrote:
JulesK wrote:Annis as you keep posting the pictures of Sala either standing by a CCFC board or sitting with pen in hand with Ken Choo are you certain that everything is above board and he was a City player?

Just asking in case you've heard something or more likely I've missed it :oops:

Thanks :thumbup:


That signature means nothing until International Clearance has been given.

I have heard that the contract had a few flaws in it and once amended had to be re-signed again. The amended contract was waiting on Sale to sign it but as you know he did not make it.

So officially he was not a Cardiff player.


Given the clubs stance that they will pay Nantes "If" they were contractually obliged to do so I also believed that this transfer had not been completed at the time Emiliano Sala died. I absolutely do not believe this "Statement" that the FAW have confirmed they have the ITC because other than reading this in the media I have seen NO official statement from any National Association regarding the true position of the status of the ITC. But hey ho we live in the social media world where everything claimed as fact is actually factual, but is it :?

However this statement from the club calls for "Fairness and Accountability" rather than "Contractual Obligation" which is a big change and for me suggests that our club know this transfer was complete and if that's true we should pay, simple as that.

However I cannot find any "Official Statement" from the club that talks about "Fairness and Accountability" so is that true.

For me we are yet to see the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth regarding this saga and until we do we will get a succession of fake news mixed in with facts.

One thing is certain this will drag on for a while yet.


:bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:

Re: “ CARDIFF CITY TONIGHT ISSUE A STATEMENT “

Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:23 am

If it was a straightforward cut and dry situation, I am sure Cardiff would have been instructed to have made the payment by now. There are obviously outstanding issues to be resolved, and all will be sorted when all the legal documents have been thoroughly checked. You can hardly blame the club for not paying out until it has been confirmed that the transaction was legally completed.

Re: “ CARDIFF CITY TONIGHT ISSUE A STATEMENT “

Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:35 am

Bakedalasker wrote:
JulesK wrote:Annis as you keep posting the pictures of Sala either standing by a CCFC board or sitting with pen in hand with Ken Choo are you certain that everything is above board and he was a City player?

Just asking in case you've heard something or more likely I've missed it :oops:

Thanks :thumbup:


That signature means nothing until International Clearance has been given.

I have heard that the contract had a few flaws in it and once amended had to be re-signed again. The amended contract was waiting on Sale to sign it but as you know he did not make it.

So officially he was not a Cardiff player.



international clearance was given and is not the issue.

lets try insurance, or lack of it. its been mentioned on here a few times but not by our club.
I would have expected a statement to the effect of. we have been instructed by our insurance company to not pay as WE { our insurers } are unhappy with { whatever }.
for me the issue is not should we employ lawyers to find loopholes its why was he not insured.

Re: “ CARDIFF CITY TONIGHT ISSUE A STATEMENT “

Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:43 am

dogfound wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
JulesK wrote:Annis as you keep posting the pictures of Sala either standing by a CCFC board or sitting with pen in hand with Ken Choo are you certain that everything is above board and he was a City player?

Just asking in case you've heard something or more likely I've missed it :oops:

Thanks :thumbup:


That signature means nothing until International Clearance has been given.

I have heard that the contract had a few flaws in it and once amended had to be re-signed again. The amended contract was waiting on Sale to sign it but as you know he did not make it.

So officially he was not a Cardiff player.



international clearance was given and is not the issue.

lets try insurance, or lack of it. its been mentioned on here a few times but not by our club.
I would have expected a statement to the effect of. we have been instructed by our insurance company to not pay as WE { our insurers } are unhappy with { whatever }.
for me the issue is not should we employ lawyers to find loopholes its why was he not insured.



At last honesty and straight talking, the insurance I have heard from a very reliable sauce, that has made City fight every way possible.

I hope we come out with our heads held high and all the truth comes out :thumbright: :bluebird:

Re: “ CARDIFF CITY TONIGHT ISSUE A STATEMENT “

Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:47 am

Forever Blue wrote:
Bluebina wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
JulesK wrote:Annis as you keep posting the pictures of Sala either standing by a CCFC board or sitting with pen in hand with Ken Choo are you certain that everything is above board and he was a City player?

Just asking in case you've heard something or more likely I've missed it :oops:

Thanks :thumbup:



Jules, Sala signed for us and Welsh FA confirmed they received paper work :bluebird:




It's all guesswork, the club is trying to defend the stance of not paying until all the facts are confirmed, so we will have to wait and see what happens !!!!

No point in people saying we should pay or we shouldn't pay, because none of us knows the full facts, FIFA or the courts will decide and it could take many years to get a full outcome !!!

In the meantime, we should back our team, not Nantes !!!


Not saying either at moment, but always stated if Sala was our player then in my opinion we should pay end off :thumbright:

But it’s not guess work Sala did sign with us and the Welsh FA received it, so some facts for you and our club and fans for nearly 4 weeks told the world Sala was our player.


PLEASE EXPLAIN WHERE MY GUESS WORK IS ? ? ?


It wasn't aimed at you specifically Anis, but there have been loads of threads where people have said he was our player and others have disputed that because some amendments weren't completed and signed he was not legally our player.

I am not sure exactly what is true, we haven't seen the full facts, although he signed a contract he may be our player, he may not be FIFA, and the courts will decide, not us fans, from us without the clear 100% facts it's all just guesswork as to what the exact situation is :thumbup:

If the club were 100% that the deal was complete and that we were responsible for the fee they would have paid it.
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Re: “ CARDIFF CITY TONIGHT ISSUE A STATEMENT “

Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:48 am

Forever Blue wrote:
dogfound wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
JulesK wrote:Annis as you keep posting the pictures of Sala either standing by a CCFC board or sitting with pen in hand with Ken Choo are you certain that everything is above board and he was a City player?

Just asking in case you've heard something or more likely I've missed it :oops:

Thanks :thumbup:


That signature means nothing until International Clearance has been given.

I have heard that the contract had a few flaws in it and once amended had to be re-signed again. The amended contract was waiting on Sale to sign it but as you know he did not make it.

So officially he was not a Cardiff player.



international clearance was given and is not the issue.

lets try insurance, or lack of it. its been mentioned on here a few times but not by our club.
I would have expected a statement to the effect of. we have been instructed by our insurance company to not pay as WE { our insurers } are unhappy with { whatever }.
for me the issue is not should we employ lawyers to find loopholes its why was he not insured.



At last honesty and straight talking, the insurance I have heard from a very reliable sauce, that has made City fight every way possible.

I hope we come out with our heads held high and all the truth comes out :thumbright: :bluebird:



same here..
will add, if you have something concrete like an incomplete registration , you do not need to be employing Harvey Specter, you just email it to Nantes and FIFA .

Re: “ CARDIFF CITY TONIGHT ISSUE A STATEMENT “

Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:55 am

Bluebina wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Bluebina wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
JulesK wrote:Annis as you keep posting the pictures of Sala either standing by a CCFC board or sitting with pen in hand with Ken Choo are you certain that everything is above board and he was a City player?

Just asking in case you've heard something or more likely I've missed it :oops:

Thanks :thumbup:



Jules, Sala signed for us and Welsh FA confirmed they received paper work :bluebird:




It's all guesswork, the club is trying to defend the stance of not paying until all the facts are confirmed, so we will have to wait and see what happens !!!!

No point in people saying we should pay or we shouldn't pay, because none of us knows the full facts, FIFA or the courts will decide and it could take many years to get a full outcome !!!

In the meantime, we should back our team, not Nantes !!!


Not saying either at moment, but always stated if Sala was our player then in my opinion we should pay end off :thumbright:

But it’s not guess work Sala did sign with us and the Welsh FA received it, so some facts for you and our club and fans for nearly 4 weeks told the world Sala was our player.


PLEASE EXPLAIN WHERE MY GUESS WORK IS ? ? ?


It wasn't aimed at you specifically Anis, but there have been loads of threads where people have said he was our player and others have disputed that because some amendments weren't completed and signed he was not legally our player.

I am not sure exactly what is true, we haven't seen the full facts, although he signed a contract he may be our player, he may not be FIFA, and the courts will decide, not us fans, from us without the clear 100% facts it's all just guesswork as to what the exact situation is :thumbup:

If the club were 100% that the deal was complete and that we were responsible for the fee they would have paid it.



insurance is your, my, the clubs, the owners of the twin towers first port of call after any loss. that's if you have insurance.
the club may well find a loophole , but the reason they are looking for one is insurance.. not that he wasnt our player.

Re: “ CARDIFF CITY TONIGHT ISSUE A STATEMENT “

Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:55 am

Bluebina wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Bluebina wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
JulesK wrote:Annis as you keep posting the pictures of Sala either standing by a CCFC board or sitting with pen in hand with Ken Choo are you certain that everything is above board and he was a City player?

Just asking in case you've heard something or more likely I've missed it :oops:

Thanks :thumbup:



Jules, Sala signed for us and Welsh FA confirmed they received paper work :bluebird:




It's all guesswork, the club is trying to defend the stance of not paying until all the facts are confirmed, so we will have to wait and see what happens !!!!

No point in people saying we should pay or we shouldn't pay, because none of us knows the full facts, FIFA or the courts will decide and it could take many years to get a full outcome !!!

In the meantime, we should back our team, not Nantes !!!


Not saying either at moment, but always stated if Sala was our player then in my opinion we should pay end off :thumbright:

But it’s not guess work Sala did sign with us and the Welsh FA received it, so some facts for you and our club and fans for nearly 4 weeks told the world Sala was our player.


PLEASE EXPLAIN WHERE MY GUESS WORK IS ? ? ?


It wasn't aimed at you specifically Anis, but there have been loads of threads where people have said he was our player and others have disputed that because some amendments weren't completed and signed he was not legally our player.

I am not sure exactly what is true, we haven't seen the full facts, although he signed a contract he may be our player, he may not be FIFA, and the courts will decide, not us fans, from us without the clear 100% facts it's all just guesswork as to what the exact situation is :thumbup:

If the club were 100% that the deal was complete and that we were responsible for the fee they would have paid it.


Even on this thread, it's the contract, it's the insurance, it's this and that, none of them knows it's all guesswork from papers or what their mate told them down the pub, or what someone has put on here!!!

It will all come out in the end but until then a game of cat and mouse between City, Nantes, McKay and the other pilot that didn't fly the plane in the end, the insurance companies, FIFA and their respective legal teams.

Re: “ CARDIFF CITY TONIGHT ISSUE A STATEMENT “

Thu Feb 28, 2019 1:00 pm

JulesK wrote:Annis as you keep posting the pictures of Sala either standing by a CCFC board or sitting with pen in hand with Ken Choo are you certain that everything is above board and he was a City player?

Just asking in case you've heard something or more likely I've missed it :oops:

Thanks :thumbup:



Jules,

Just looked where I am getting these photos from your on about, Media Wales and Daily Bulletin keep posting them as well, maybe you should email them to stop as well, plus they did not invent them, I think you will find Our club Cardiff City put them out when Emiliano Sala Signed for us :bluebird: :bluebird:

Re: “ CARDIFF CITY TONIGHT ISSUE A STATEMENT “

Thu Feb 28, 2019 11:10 pm

I wonder if either Choo or Dalman have enough spine to suggest to their paymaster Tan that the club should pay?

Whether there were any discrepancies or not in the paperwork or not seems academic to me in comparison to the consequences of not paying.

Whether we survive our relegation battle or not we aspire to be Premier League. In that arena £15 million is small potatoes. Any future transfer efforts will be undermined with clubs and agents demanding more money and cash upfront in any dealings with us.

Its Tan all over when the consequences of actions aren't thought through. I'm sure his treatment of Malkay deterred many other managers considering the role here and we were stuck with Trollope and Slade and withholding the entirety of the Sala fee will have consequences.

The £5 million should be paid and the various investigations can be undertaken before the next installment due.