Who scouted Josh Murphy?

Who scouted and recommend Josh Murphy. We supposedly paid £10 million for him. So called scout should be sacked. Haven't seen Murphy do anything since he signed.

He's shown some promise, but sadly no consistency or seemingly desire to push himself.
It's worrying his twin has seemly failed at Newcastle too.
But.... Its a good question regarding scouts in general, none of the purchases either represented value or even more worryingly addressed the sides main weeknesses.

Unsurprisingly your not going to get the complete premiership player for 10 million. He's still a bit raw and probably struggles a bit as wanrock likes his wingers to track back a lot.

I can see plenty of potential though, probably lacking in confidence at the moment but still only just turned 24. Our fans thought unless they are on top game consistently they get knocked even more.

Back to the what I said the other day about why we don't play young players and develop them.

from what i remember when we signed him a good few norwich fans said pretty much same loads promise no final end product good one game crap the next was shocked we spent that in him tbh

He was pretty decent early season, enough for Newcastle fans to suggest they had bought the wrong Murphy.

He's not been great but I wonder if it was made clear to him before he signed that not only would he be expected to create almost everything in an attacking sense but spend most of the game tracking back and defending?

As an aside, there was a time right at the end of the game yesterday when he was attacking down the left and there were seven Everton players closer to him than any City player.

Maybe too much is being asked of a player who has little experience of the role he is being required to perform and at a level way above what he's been used to previously?

He's not been great but I wonder if it was made clear to him before he signed that not only would he be expected to create almost everything in an attacking sense but spend most of the game tracking back and defending?

As an aside, there was a time right at the end of the game yesterday when he was attacking down the left and there were seven Everton players closer to him than any City player.

Maybe too much is being asked of a player who has little experience of the role he is being required to perform and at a level way above what he's been used to previously?

Sounds about right regarding city's attack no matter who it is they invariably are facing 2 or more defenders! Is it any wonder they look poor plus fact half the time they're only sitting on bench while a make shift forward plays instead?

attacking players like murphy are the players fans tend to scapegoat when things aren't going well.

it's difficult being given the ball, and told to create things and make things happen against quality opposition. it takes a bit of guts to keep trying things when the crowd are having a moan at you. the defence just have to stop people playing, putting it in row z. if you want to blame people, how did they get on with that?

he's been inconsistent, as you'd expect a young player moving up a league. he's not the finished article, but has clear potential. his decision making is poor, and he often has no end product.

He's a young lad with bags of potential . Seems like a confidence player IMO .

attacking players like murphy are the players fans tend to scapegoat when things aren't going well.

it's difficult being given the ball, and told to create things and make things happen against quality opposition. it takes a bit of guts to keep trying things when the crowd are having a moan at you. the defence just have to stop people playing, putting it in row z. if you want to blame people, how did they get on with that?

he's been inconsistent, as you'd expect a young player moving up a league. he's not the finished article, but has clear potential. his decision making is poor, and he often has no end product.

I've felt in the majority of games the team have looked to him to create something in open play and no one else. I think it's very harsh for people to have a go at him.

He's a young lad with bags of potential . Seems like a confidence player IMO .

He's 24 mate, with the greatest respect in the world to the player, if he isn't good enough now the chances are he never will be.

At 24 and a winger you should be in youre prime, potential shouldn't come into it at this stage.

But the bottom line is to us £10 million sounds like a lot, but it's pissing in the wind in Football terms, he was a risk worth taking and in our price range, same with bony Reid.

attacking players like murphy are the players fans tend to scapegoat when things aren't going well.

it's difficult being given the ball, and told to create things and make things happen against quality opposition. it takes a bit of guts to keep trying things when the crowd are having a moan at you. the defence just have to stop people playing, putting it in row z. if you want to blame people, how did they get on with that?

he's been inconsistent, as you'd expect a young player moving up a league. he's not the finished article, but has clear potential. his decision making is poor, and he often has no end product.

I've felt in the majority of games the team have looked to him to create something in open play and no one else. I think it's very harsh for people to have a go at him.

who cares. the same people throwing him under the bus will be singing his praises telling us they were right all along, if and when he comes good.

it's tough being a young player in a relegation battle. compare it to how easy players like phil foden for man city have it coming on for 15 minutes playing keep ball 5-0 up.

attacking players like murphy are the players fans tend to scapegoat when things aren't going well.

it's difficult being given the ball, and told to create things and make things happen against quality opposition. it takes a bit of guts to keep trying things when the crowd are having a moan at you. the defence just have to stop people playing, putting it in row z. if you want to blame people, how did they get on with that?

he's been inconsistent, as you'd expect a young player moving up a league. he's not the finished article, but has clear potential. his decision making is poor, and he often has no end product.

I've felt in the majority of games the team have looked to him to create something in open play and no one else. I think it's very harsh for people to have a go at him.

who cares. the same people throwing him under the bus will be singing his praises telling us they were right all along, if and when he comes good.

it's tough being a young player in a relegation battle. compare it to how easy players like phil foden for man city have it coming on for 15 minutes playing keep ball 5-0 up.

Ridiculous comparison

Foden is 18 with 13 senior games under his belt, Murphy is 24 and played 31 games in the Premiership with us and Norwich on top of well over 100 games in the Championship.

Problem is with Murphy, if his first run goes bad, he’s terrible the rest of the game, loses confidence straight away, if his first run pays off and he does well, he plays excellent the rest of the game, unfortunately the first run most of the time seems to go bad, personally I agree, I don’t think we can say “murphy was class that game” to any of the games he played, Leicester away he was dreadful, had multiple opportunities with the ball and just gets tackled everytime, premier league defenders are no mugs and Murphy still thinks he’s playing againest the Championship ones

To be fair fielding youngsters in a relegation battle can sometimes damage their career, fear of making a mistake etc.

Foden at Man City knows that if he makes a mistake he has fantastically talented players around him who will most likely recover for his error, he can take risks and doesn't have as much to lose.

We don't have that.

There is definitely an issue with his lack of tracking back. He started the Spurs game but left his full back so obviously completely exposed with little/no tracking back and as a result was hauled off at half-time.

He got back into the starting line-up again for the Bournemouth and this time his tracking back was excellent and basically stopped Clyne from causing us any problems as well as contributing to probably the best team performance of the season.

If this was a consistent problem then I would say that he just hasn't got it, however, he clearly can do it just chooses not to at times. Not a player, currently, that you would want alongside you in "the trenches" I would suggest !!

There is definitely an issue with his lack of tracking back. He started the Spurs game but left his full back so obviously completely exposed with little/no tracking back and as a result was hauled off at half-time.

He got back into the starting line-up again for the Bournemouth and this time his tracking back was excellent and basically stopped Clyne from causing us any problems as well as contributing to probably the best team performance of the season.

If this was a consistent problem then I would say that he just hasn't got it, however, he clearly can do it just chooses not to at times. Not a player, currently, that you would want alongside you in "the trenches" I would suggest !!

Agree with this but I wouldn't say he chooses not to. I think he struggles with finding the balance between doing his bit in defence and going for it in attack. Definitely been a noticeable improvement in his defending since the Spurs game. The Bournemouth game is the only time he seems to have got that balance right.

Problem is with Murphy, if his first run goes bad, he’s terrible the rest of the game, loses confidence straight away, if his first run pays off and he does well, he plays excellent the rest of the game, unfortunately the first run most of the time seems to go bad, personally I agree, I don’t think we can say “murphy was class that game” to any of the games he played, Leicester away he was dreadful, had multiple opportunities with the ball and just gets tackled everytime, premier league defenders are no mugs and Murphy still thinks he’s playing againest the Championship ones

that's the life of wingers mate, its not a case of THINKING your still playing championship.
don't matter what division your in if the guy your up against has your measure your fucked. obviously in this league that's going to happen more.

I think he's a vey good player indeed who was a bargain at that price and has scored and created a lot of important goals.
He's just the latest target of people who now seem to want failure and are looking for someone to take it out on.
The manager who rebuilt us and got us promoted, the owner who wrote off millions, the player who recently won Goal of the month, the Captain who's playing too soon after surgery because there's no one else, and now Josh Murphy.

It's ugly to witness to be quite honest.

We're drinking in the Last Chance Saloon , that's a fact. We might well have got out of it, but that's not looking likely with the plastic supporters melting away.

The team are capable of beating Wolves, but I don't know how motivated they'll be if they're aware of the sort of things their so called " supporters" are saying.

I think he's a vey good player indeed who was a bargain at that price and has scored and created a lot of important goals.
He's just the latest target of people who now seem to want failure and are looking for someone to take it out on.
The manager who rebuilt us and got us promoted, the owner who wrote off millions, the player who recently won Goal of the month, the Captain who's playing too soon after surgery because there's no one else, and now Josh Murphy.

It's ugly to witness to be quite honest.

We're drinking in the Last Chance Saloon , that's a fact. We might well have got out of it, but that's not looking likely with the plastic supporters melting away.

The team are capable of beating Wolves, but I don't know how motivated they'll be if they're aware of the sort of things their so called " supporters" are saying.

There is definitely an issue with his lack of tracking back. He started the Spurs game but left his full back so obviously completely exposed with little/no tracking back and as a result was hauled off at half-time.

He got back into the starting line-up again for the Bournemouth and this time his tracking back was excellent and basically stopped Clyne from causing us any problems as well as contributing to probably the best team performance of the season.

If this was a consistent problem then I would say that he just hasn't got it, however, he clearly can do it just chooses not to at times. Not a player, currently, that you would want alongside you in "the trenches" I would suggest !!

No co-incidence he started well and the fans were behind him.

This then gave him confidence which resulted in a class performance.

Who scouted and recommend Josh Murphy. We supposedly paid £10 million for him. So called scout should be sacked. Haven't seen Murphy do anything since he signed.

It was Warnock! He clearly stated when we signed him that he had been impressed with him every time he saw him play including against us. To be fair he was one of our best players first part of the season though been disappointing recently.

He’s usually doubled by defenders. Watford did it fairly well. Not his fault there’s no one in the box when he’s ready to deliver.
Our support play is too slow.
Also, £10m is peanuts these days. And he’s a good player.

I think he's a vey good player indeed who was a bargain at that price and has scored and created a lot of important goals.
He's just the latest target of people who now seem to want failure and are looking for someone to take it out on.
The manager who rebuilt us and got us promoted, the owner who wrote off millions, the player who recently won Goal of the month, the Captain who's playing too soon after surgery because there's no one else, and now Josh Murphy.

It's ugly to witness to be quite honest.

We're drinking in the Last Chance Saloon , that's a fact. We might well have got out of it, but that's not looking likely with the plastic supporters melting away.

The team are capable of beating Wolves, but I don't know how motivated they'll be if they're aware of the sort of things their so called " supporters" are saying.

agree.

fans have short memories. reading through some of the garbage on here after we lose, it's almost as if last season never happened.

the last couple of games, with fire drills at 80 minutes, and threads on here throwing players and the manager under the bus are expected, but show we have an army of fair weather fans. the fact our attendances have virtually doubled under warnock is both a credit to him, and evidence of how fickle the fans are.

the fee was high for us, but in the modern game, a good price for a good prospect. he didn't play well on tuesday, but so did everyone else.

Murphy has single handedly had two right backs subbed this season. He is our most dangerous player by far. He needs a run in the team and Warnock needs to let him do what he does best ATTACK

I wish people would understand that by virtue of the system we play we cannot have anyone JUST attacking. Same applies that no one can JUST defend, which is why so many goals come from Sol Bamba and other defenders.

Murphys ok,seems to have become a whipping boy.You should maybe ask who scouted Bogle,Madine,Ward,Tomlin,Cunningham,Smithies,Reid,Damour for starters.Warnock gets a free ticket but some of his signings......

Murphys ok,seems to have become a whipping boy.You should maybe ask who scouted Bogle,Madine,Ward,Tomlin,Cunningham,Smithies,Reid,Damour for starters.Warnock gets a free ticket but some of his signings......

I question a lot of his signings but I think Damour was a great signing on a free and filled a lot of spaces for us over the years. Also think Reid would be a decent signing if he had played more in his 10 position where he has looked excellent every time I've seen him.

I wish people would understand that by virtue of the system we play we cannot have anyone JUST attacking. Same applies that no one can JUST defend, which is why so many goals come from Sol Bamba and other defenders.

Then the system needs to change.

In the Premier League you need to be an attacking threat.