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UPDATED: KEPA REFUSING TO BE SUBSTITUTED - NOW FINED

Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:26 pm

Chelsea just tried to replace Keppa before the penalty shootout with Caballero.

He refused to leave the pitch and stayed on, even the referee had to go over to Sarri and ask what he wanted to do.

That was shocking and shows he has lost the players respect if they can just treat him like that. The managers decision is final.

I've never seen that on a professional football pitch before

Should Keppa have come off

Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:30 pm

I think he should do as his manager tells him otherwise what is the point of having a manager?

Re: A player refusing to be substituted

Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:31 pm

Here's a clip of it...

"The most exciting two minutes of football all day."

https://streamable.com/atpfq

Apologies for French commentary.

Re: Should Keppa have come off

Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:33 pm

Of course he should have, and that should also be his last game in a Chelsea shirt. A total lack of respect and professionalism but it will most likely be the end of Sarri instead.

Players have far much too power these days.

Re: Should Keppa have come off

Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:33 pm

Definitely. Can you imagine any of our players saying no to Warnock... Let alone the consequences of doing so...

Re: Should Keppa have come off

Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:33 pm

Silly question really if your manager says you are coming off you do! Now sarri as nowhere to go he either drops keeper for rest season or he goes. :old:

Re: A player refusing to be substituted

Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:34 pm

The repercussions are either the keeper has played his last match spends the rest of the season on the bench and is then transferred out in the summer or Sarri is gone within the month

Re: A player refusing to be substituted

Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:37 pm

thomasblue wrote:Chelsea just tried to replace Kepa before the penalty shootout with Caballero.

He refused to leave the pitch and stayed on, even the referee had to go over to Sarri and ask what he wanted to do.

That was shocking and shows he has lost the players respect if they can just treat him like that. The managers decision is final.

I've never seen that on a professional football pitch before



He went down twice injured or with cramp! But whatever the reason for being substituted he as to go off its that simple :thumbup:

Re: A player refusing to be substituted

Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:40 pm

Shocking attitude by the player.

Surely gross misconduct?

Re: Should Keppa have come off

Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:44 pm

I see Keppa’s cast his vote...

Re: A player refusing to be substituted

Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:49 pm

Managers decision is final in my opinion.

It shows a total lack of respect to Sarri

Re: Should Keppa have come off

Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:59 pm

rumpo kid wrote:I see Keppa’s cast his vote...


Probably some snowflake who thinks they can do what they want when they want.

Re: Should Keppa have come off

Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:08 pm

it's difficult because the players will always have power in some ways whether pundit, fans or just the regular person knows. Chelsea players got Jose sacked and many others after and before him, so as a whole the Chelsea team looks like a nightmare to manage for anyone let alone Sarri.

2 Transfer Bans Await the blues and time is ticking for the reign of Sarri, eventually he will walk away.

Re: Should Keppa have come off

Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:10 pm

In the rules it says he can stay on the pitch. Doesn't makeit right though.

Re: Should Keppa have come off

Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:21 pm

I cant believe this is actually in the rules of the game!

Under the Laws, the referee has no specific power to force a player to be substituted, even if the team manager or captain has ordered their player to be substituted. If a player refuses to be substituted play may simply resume with that player on the field. However, in some situations players may still be liable to punishment with a caution (yellow card) for time wasting or unsporting behaviour.


Unbelievable rule

Re: Should Keppa have come off

Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:33 pm

Of course he should have gone off.

You play for the team, not for yourself. You also have to respect your manager.

Totally unacceptable.

Re: A player refusing to be substituted

Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:37 pm

If the 4th official puts his number up to be subbed then he has to go. So this “refusal” is nonsense, surely?

Re: Should Keppa have come off

Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:40 pm

His number wasn’t shown on the subs board though was it?

Re: Should Keppa have come off

Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:42 pm

Welshman in CA wrote:
rumpo kid wrote:I see Keppa’s cast his vote...


Probably some snowflake who thinks they can do what they want when they want.

You seem fascinated by so-called 'Snowflakes'? :?

Simple answer is Yes, he should have come off and Sarri should have forced the issue

Not only disrespecting his manager but also his team mates and Willie Caballero in particular, as he was deprived of a Cup Final appearance (ironically against his former club)

I actually felt for Sarri and I'm sure he came close to walking out if the stadium. Peppa needs the Riot Act read to him and I hope this apparent 'Chelsea Player Power' isn't allowed to carry on

Embarrassing for FC Chelski and their manager :(

Re: Keppa refusing to be substituted

Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:53 pm

Of course he should he has now opened a box of worms for every player. The manager needed to be stronger shows he's lost the dressing room

Re: Should Keppa have come off

Sun Feb 24, 2019 9:04 pm

Sven wrote:
Welshman in CA wrote:
rumpo kid wrote:I see Keppa’s cast his vote...


Probably some snowflake who thinks they can do what they want when they want.

You seem fascinated by so-called 'Snowflakes'? :?

Simple answer is Yes, he should have come off and Sarri should have forced the issue

Not only disrespecting his manager but also his team mates and Willie Caballero in particular, as he was deprived of a Cup Final appearance (ironically against his former club)

I actually felt for Sarri and I'm sure he came close to walking out if the stadium. Keppa needs the Riot Act read to him and I hope this apparent 'Chelsea Player Power' isn't allowed to carry on

Embarrassing for FC Chelski and their manager :(


Disgusting behaviour by Keppa, I felt really sorry for Sarri tbh. Unfortunately the constant sacking of managers seems to have come back to haunt them now, as Chelsea players know that they have more power than the manager and if they dont like the manager or agree with him they know that they can down tools and get him sacked and they know Sarri will be replaced before they are and thats been a problem at Chelsea for the last decade or more with players like Terry, Cole, Lampard, and Drogba going on to players like Fabregas, Hazard, Costa and Kepa ruling the football club. I felt Sarri should have stood his ground more and not let one of his own players undermine him in front of his own players and the world. Think this could be the end of him at Chelsea now as you dont tend to see a manager come back from something like this.

Re: Keppa refusing to be substituted

Sun Feb 24, 2019 9:11 pm

Sarri said was misunderstanding dr said he was able to continue? Load of bollocks trainer went on he would say to sarri he can continue or needed come off! Or did sarri make the decision before consulting trainer? Anyway sarri says no action against cappa to be taken . :lol:

Re: Keppa refusing to be substituted

Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:53 am

Of course, he should the prick, and then he let a soft penalty go underneath him, shocking stick him in the reserves and let him rot, don't let players win !!!

Re: Keppa refusing to be substituted

Mon Feb 25, 2019 1:56 pm

Ill be honest I didn't even know it was the cup final yesterday :lol:

Don't need a poll for this everyone knows he should have come off, shocking behaviour. If I was Sarri he wouldn't even make the bench for the rest of the season. He has done Sarri up like a Kepa :lol: (seen that somewhere)

Re: " Keppa refusing to be substituted "

Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:04 pm

Without a doubt he should off come off.

Totally undermined the manger.

Re: " Keppa refusing to be substituted "

Mon Feb 25, 2019 4:02 pm

He should be sacked as a Chelsea player :thumbup:

Re: " Keppa refusing to be substituted "

Mon Feb 25, 2019 4:17 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Without a doubt he should off come off.

Totally undermined the manger.


I agree but the manager showed a complete lack of class stomping about the touch line like a spoiled child.
He also undermined Caballero.
He should have stuck by his guns and not showed his weakness. I can’t see him lasting as manager now especially.

Re: " Keppa refusing to be substituted "

Mon Feb 25, 2019 4:17 pm

Ibby wrote:He should be sacked as a Chelsea player :thumbup:


Don’t be silly now.

Re: " Keppa refusing to be substituted "

Mon Feb 25, 2019 5:05 pm

The substitution board should have stayed up until he was forced off by the referee. Chelsea must back their manager and fine the player heavily or sell him. Suppose the player would do the same no matter who is the manager.

Re: " Keppa refusing to be substituted "

Mon Feb 25, 2019 5:20 pm

he should have either made it very clear straight away that he was 100% fine to carry on, to prevent his manager from being made to look like he's lost control.

the captain, or anyone with any leadership on the pitch should have intervened to relay a message, or drag him off himself. the lack of such action suggests there is a total lack of leadership in that team. all concentrating on their own jobs.

normal rules don't apply here, this is chelsea, where the players know that they just have to sit tight and the manager will soon be gone. in any case, fining the player will make it clear the manager was undermined. to save face i am expecting there to be no disciplinary action taken against the player.