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REPORT TO CONFIRM AGENT MCKAY DID NOT OWN PLANE

Sun Feb 24, 2019 1:07 am

Emiliano Sala plane changed hands four times in a single day as crash report set to confirm agent Willie McKay did not own aircraft

By Ian Herbert and Laura Lambert


Sports Mail

Sunday 23rd February 2019


Nantes expect a preliminary report into the crash which killed Emiliano Sala to confirm this week that agent Willie McKay did not own the plane, strengthening their demands that Cardiff City make the first payment due for the player.


Sportsmail understands that enquiries about ownership have centred on a mysterious firm called Cool Flourish, listed at Companies House as a management consultancy business.

The company’s major shareholder, 45-year-old Fay Keely, is listed by the companies register as resident at a property at Alfreton, Derbyshire, which is deserted and unfurnished.


Our attempts to ask another director, Heather Keely, 41, about the business also drew a blank. A woman who arrived at the door of her listed address, in Repton, Nottinghamshire, slammed it shut and refused to answer questions. A note requesting clarification went unanswered.

A mansion listed as the home of an older former director Terence Keely is also empty. We were told that we were trespassing and must leave the premises by ground staff there.


Evidence that McKay part-owned the plane or was linked to a commercial entity that did — which he denies — could be used by Cardiff to negotiate Nantes down.

Cardiff would argue that McKay was a representative of the French club, who therefore carry some liability.

A complex paper trail has made ownership of the Piper Malibu aircraft difficult to ascertain. It is registered with the US Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), who allow ownership details to be kept out of the public domain. Documents seen by Sportsmail show that it changed hands four times in a single day in 2015.


McKay is also ready to demonstrate that Cardiff were so pleased to have him working for them in the transfer window that he did groundwork on two other possible deals for manager Neil Warnock.

He says Warnock had an interest in midfielder Bouna Sarr and striker Konstantinos Mitroglou, both at Marseille.
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Re: REPORT TO CONFIRM AGENT MCKAY DID NOT OWN PLANE

Sun Feb 24, 2019 2:32 am

quite shocked how difficult it is to find the owners..

how can someone use a plane { Henderson } and allow others to use it with no knowledge of who owns it ?

Re: REPORT TO CONFIRM AGENT MCKAY DID NOT OWN PLANE

Sun Feb 24, 2019 9:54 am

dogfound wrote:quite shocked how difficult it is to find the owners..

how can someone use a plane { Henderson } and allow others to use it with no knowledge of who owns it ?


If this was a top name world class footballer it would be out in an hour

Re: REPORT TO CONFIRM AGENT MCKAY DID NOT OWN PLANE

Sun Feb 24, 2019 9:59 am

Surely Somone pays for it's services ?

As the aircraft has back logs of problems to the extent of being grounded and being taken to court :?

Re: REPORT TO CONFIRM AGENT MCKAY DID NOT OWN PLANE

Sun Feb 24, 2019 10:11 am

I've explained this loads of times. It's not secret who owns a plane, it's private.
It's been available to proper authorities from the getgo and I'm surprised anyone thinks it's the agent because it's pretty obvious to me that it'll turn out to be the ferry pilot agency.

The index plate on your car immediately identifies the owner to the cops , courts etc, but not to the Daily Mail. The only difference is that with aircraft registration there aren't so many ways for journalists or anyone else to get the details through some connection or by bribery. If car parking companies could get the details from Swansea for £25 or every pcso could check it on the radio I expect it'd have been out there the day after the crash.

Re: REPORT TO CONFIRM AGENT MCKAY DID NOT OWN PLANE

Sun Feb 24, 2019 10:15 am

SirJimmySchoular wrote:I've explained this loads of times. It's not secret who owns a plane, it's private.
It's been available to proper authorities from the getgo and I'm surprised anyone thinks it's the agent because it's pretty obvious to me that it'll turn out to be the ferry pilot agency.

The index plate on your car immediately identifies the owner to the cops , courts etc, but not to the Daily Mail. The only difference is that with aircraft registration there aren't so many ways for journalists or anyone else to get the details through some connection or by bribery. If car parking companies could get the details from Swansea for £25 or every pcso could check it on the radio I expect it'd have been out there the day after the crash.


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Re: REPORT TO CONFIRM AGENT MCKAY DID NOT OWN PLANE

Sun Feb 24, 2019 9:43 pm

RageJon wrote:
SirJimmySchoular wrote:I've explained this loads of times. It's not secret who owns a plane, it's private.
It's been available to proper authorities from the getgo and I'm surprised anyone thinks it's the agent because it's pretty obvious to me that it'll turn out to be the ferry pilot agency.

The index plate on your car immediately identifies the owner to the cops , courts etc, but not to the Daily Mail. The only difference is that with aircraft registration there aren't so many ways for journalists or anyone else to get the details through some connection or by bribery. If car parking companies could get the details from Swansea for £25 or every pcso could check it on the radio I expect it'd have been out there the day after the crash.


And...



And ....so it's not in fact difficult to find the owners for anyone who's business it is to do so.

Re: REPORT TO CONFIRM AGENT MCKAY DID NOT OWN PLANE

Sun Feb 24, 2019 9:56 pm

Sven wrote:Emiliano Sala plane changed hands four times in a single day as crash report set to confirm agent Willie McKay did not own aircraft

By Ian Herbert and Laura Lambert


Sports Mail

Sunday 23rd February 2019


Nantes expect a preliminary report into the crash which killed Emiliano Sala to confirm this week that agent Willie McKay did not own the plane, strengthening their demands that Cardiff City make the first payment due for the player.


Sportsmail understands that enquiries about ownership have centred on a mysterious firm called Cool Flourish, listed at Companies House as a management consultancy business.

The company’s major shareholder, 45-year-old Fay Keely, is listed by the companies register as resident at a property at Alfreton, Derbyshire, which is deserted and unfurnished.


Our attempts to ask another director, Heather Keely, 41, about the business also drew a blank. A woman who arrived at the door of her listed address, in Repton, Nottinghamshire, slammed it shut and refused to answer questions. A note requesting clarification went unanswered.

A mansion listed as the home of an older former director Terence Keely is also empty. We were told that we were trespassing and must leave the premises by ground staff there.


Evidence that McKay part-owned the plane or was linked to a commercial entity that did — which he denies — could be used by Cardiff to negotiate Nantes down.

Cardiff would argue that McKay was a representative of the French club, who therefore carry some liability.

A complex paper trail has made ownership of the Piper Malibu aircraft difficult to ascertain. It is registered with the US Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), who allow ownership details to be kept out of the public domain. Documents seen by Sportsmail show that it changed hands four times in a single day in 2015.


McKay is also ready to demonstrate that Cardiff were so pleased to have him working for them in the transfer window that he did groundwork on two other possible deals for manager Neil Warnock.

He says Warnock had an interest in midfielder Bouna Sarr and striker Konstantinos Mitroglou, both at Marseille.


Bit boring now.....NEXT!!

Re: REPORT TO CONFIRM AGENT MCKAY DID NOT OWN PLANE

Sun Feb 24, 2019 10:06 pm

haven’t seen many people argue that the plane was him aside from him denying it is. more people pointing fingers at him for arranging the flight and the possibility of him being knowledgeable to the changing of pilot beyond commercial laws

Re: REPORT TO CONFIRM AGENT MCKAY DID NOT OWN PLANE

Sun Feb 24, 2019 11:01 pm

As the excellent article in last Saturday's Guardian Sport clearly explains, Willie McKay has not been a registered agent since he went bankrupt in March 2015. Yet he arranged for the 2 flights for Warnock to watch him & Sala's fateful flight.

Re: REPORT TO CONFIRM AGENT MCKAY DID NOT OWN PLANE

Mon Feb 25, 2019 9:00 am

I don't think it makes any difference whether he owned the plane or not. The fact that its owned by a third party business makes the initial claims that it was a * private * flight even less plausible, if that was even possible.

Willie McKay needs to demonstrate that he used / uses correctly experienced, licenced and insured operators and that he himself carries insurance to be making these arrangements. It would be useful if they could confirm that the McKays as agents were responsible for arranging the flight or whether they claim that was a seperate dealt with by Willie Mckay the individual and not part of the contract. I think we know where thats heading.

Re: REPORT TO CONFIRM AGENT MCKAY DID NOT OWN PLANE

Mon Feb 25, 2019 9:01 am

I don't think it makes any difference whether he owned the plane or not. The fact that its owned by a third party business makes the initial claims that it was a * private * flight even less plausible, if that was even possible.

Willie McKay needs to demonstrate that he used / uses correctly experienced, licenced and insured operators and that he himself carries insurance to be making these arrangements. It would be useful if they could confirm that the McKays as agents were responsible for arranging the flight or whether they claim that was a seperate dealt with by Willie Mckay the individual and not part of the contract. I think we know where thats heading.