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Writing on the Wall ? Up to Us !

Thu Feb 21, 2019 4:08 pm

Writing on the Wall ? Up to Us !

Let me be brief for once. Brief and very serious.

I shall also be direct, since it's the best way to convey a hard message.

At this point we must put all unfortunate events and the legal wranglings which arise from them behind us, and focus upon football .

People have claimed, ( correctly I believe) , that Cardiff City have a twelfth player. The collective willpower of everyone on and off the field does have an effect in driving success sometimes against the odds. If we lose that, we lose everything.
All the blood sweat and tears which brought us from tedious mediocrity in the lower leagues into a position where we have not only been promoted to but are on the verge of establishing ourselves in the Premiership.

Right now this collective willpower is in a state of turmoil , focussing itself on frustrating matters which we cannot effect or alter. Unless we can pull ourselves together now and get back to what we're supposed to be all about, I can see it destroying the club.

I generally avoid mentioning the off field scandals and disputed which spoiled and ruined everything the last time we got into the premiership, but let's not fail to learn the lessons from that.

I think what I am saying here is very very important, and I urge everyone to consider it .
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Re: Writing on the Wall ? Up to Us !

Thu Feb 21, 2019 4:29 pm

Up to us indeed, how many will turn up tomorrow night, its not on the box and the egg is sat tea time,and the forcast is for a summers day i shall be driving over the beacons in the morning in the campervan overnight stop, footie a win, a few beers in the borough,curry perfect day.

Re: Writing on the Wall ? Up to Us !

Thu Feb 21, 2019 5:47 pm

Honestly when the game kicks off I don't think anyone cares about the off the field matters. All that matters is the 90 mins of football and getting behind the team all the way. The fans have been the 12th man all season in every game and I don't see that changing. As shown in recent weeks, the tragic death of Sala has brought the club closer together and inspired the players and the fans to go that extra mile. The players have upped their game, and the fans are even louder and more behind the team than ever. I don't see that changing and I expect the usual massive amount of support and noise as we beat Watford 2-1. :bluebird:

Re: Writing on the Wall ? Up to Us !

Thu Feb 21, 2019 6:45 pm

Bluebird Warrior wrote:Honestly when the game kicks off I don't think anyone cares about the off the field matters. All that matters is the 90 mins of football and getting behind the team all the way. The fans have been the 12th man all season in every game and I don't see that changing. As shown in recent weeks, the tragic death of Sala has brought the club closer together and inspired the players and the fans to go that extra mile. The players have upped their game, and the fans are even louder and more behind the team than ever. I don't see that changing and I expect the usual massive amount of support and noise as we beat Watford 2-1. :bluebird:

I think you are dead right :occasion5: we have been superb all season,things that are going on,are beyond our control,I know for sure,opposition fans are going to try and goad us,we must rise together,in defiance and simply carry on as we have been,and drown the fuckers out :ayatollah: :old: :bluebird:

Re: Writing on the Wall ? Up to Us !

Thu Feb 21, 2019 7:21 pm

With no game for the last two weeks, it was on the cards that this would be discussed. Tomorrow is back to business day, and all this stuff will be pushed into the background. Once the players take to the pitch, I don't think anyone will give this off field business a second thought. It certainly has no affect on me, something to discuss but not much more. It's not going to do anything to my personal financial situation whatever the outcome, and to be honest I'm not really bothered what happens one way or the other. As far as this club is concerned, the only thing I really care about is staying in this league for another season.

Re: Writing on the Wall ? Up to Us !

Thu Feb 21, 2019 7:23 pm

bluesince62 wrote:
Bluebird Warrior wrote:Honestly when the game kicks off I don't think anyone cares about the off the field matters. All that matters is the 90 mins of football and getting behind the team all the way. The fans have been the 12th man all season in every game and I don't see that changing. As shown in recent weeks, the tragic death of Sala has brought the club closer together and inspired the players and the fans to go that extra mile. The players have upped their game, and the fans are even louder and more behind the team than ever. I don't see that changing and I expect the usual massive amount of support and noise as we beat Watford 2-1. :bluebird:

I think you are dead right :occasion5: we have been superb all season,things that are going on,are beyond our control,I know for sure,opposition fans are going to try and goad us,we must rise together,in defiance and simply carry on as we have been,and drown the fuckers out :ayatollah: :old: :bluebird:


Well Said :thumbright: :thumbright: :bluebird: :bluebird: :bluebird:

Re: Writing on the Wall ? Up to Us !

Thu Feb 21, 2019 7:23 pm

SirJimmySchoular wrote:Let me be brief for once. Brief and very serious.

I shall also be direct, since it's the best way to convey a hard message.

At this point we must put all unfortunate events and the legal wranglings which arise from them behind us, and focus upon football .

People have claimed, ( correctly I believe) , that Cardiff City have a twelfth player. The collective willpower of everyone on and off the field does have an effect in driving success sometimes against the odds. If we lose that, we lose everything.
All the blood sweat and tears which brought us from tedious mediocrity in the lower leagues into a position where we have not only been promoted to but are on the verge of establishing ourselves in the Premiership.

Right now this collective willpower is in a state of turmoil , focussing itself on frustrating matters which we cannot effect or alter. Unless we can pull ourselves together now and get back to what we're supposed to be all about, I can see it destroying the club.
I generally avoid mentioning the off field scandals and disputed which spoiled and ruined everything the last time we got into the premiership, but let's not fail to learn the lessons from that.

I think what I am saying here is very very important, and I urge everyone to consider it .



Excellent post :thumbright: :thumbright: :bluebird: :bluebird: :bluebird:

Re: Writing on the Wall ? Up to Us !

Thu Feb 21, 2019 7:53 pm

Are we still gonna sing a song for Sala or time to let go? Either way the 12th man will definitely be up for this very winnable game. Let's just hope zahora turns up!

Re: Writing on the Wall ? Up to Us !

Thu Feb 21, 2019 7:55 pm

Llantwit bluebird wrote:Are we still gonna sing a song for Sala or time to let go? Either way the 12th man will definitely be up for this very winnable game. Let's just hope zahora turns up!


Mate, how can we sing Sala's name, our club we love saying Sala was never our player,making a f mockery of the whole situation, f joke :cry:

Re: Writing on the Wall ? Up to Us !

Thu Feb 21, 2019 8:18 pm

Of course we cannot sing sala’s name... at least anyone who supports our quest for non payment should not as it would be hypocritical and crass. The whole coming together for sala thing has been destroyed by our club’s actions if you cannot see this get your blinkers off. Club should have acted differently as sala although not with us was like a 12th man last two games now to sing his name would just be embarrassing.

Re: Writing on the Wall ? Up to Us !

Thu Feb 21, 2019 8:25 pm

SirJimmySchoular wrote:Writing on the Wall ? Up to Us !

Let me be brief for once. Brief and very serious.

I shall also be direct, since it's the best way to convey a hard message.

At this point we must put all unfortunate events and the legal wranglings which arise from them behind us, and focus upon football .

People have claimed, ( correctly I believe) , that Cardiff City have a twelfth player. The collective willpower of everyone on and off the field does have an effect in driving success sometimes against the odds. If we lose that, we lose everything.
All the blood sweat and tears which brought us from tedious mediocrity in the lower leagues into a position where we have not only been promoted to but are on the verge of establishing ourselves in the Premiership.

Right now this collective willpower is in a state of turmoil , focussing itself on frustrating matters which we cannot effect or alter. Unless we can pull ourselves together now and get back to what we're supposed to be all about, I can see it destroying the club.

I generally avoid mentioning the off field scandals and disputed which spoiled and ruined everything the last time we got into the premiership, but let's not fail to learn the lessons from that.

I think what I am saying here is very very important, and I urge everyone to consider it .


Couldn’t have put it better myself.

Great post, well said :thumbright:

Re: Writing on the Wall ? Up to Us !

Thu Feb 21, 2019 9:21 pm

Seeing as he was our player according to FAW who accepted the transfer then we should sing for Sala

I’ll be there either way :ayatollah:

Re: Writing on the Wall ? Up to Us !

Thu Feb 21, 2019 9:23 pm

SirJimmySchoular wrote:Writing on the Wall ? Up to Us !

Let me be brief for once. Brief and very serious.

I shall also be direct, since it's the best way to convey a hard message.

At this point we must put all unfortunate events and the legal wranglings which arise from them behind us, and focus upon football .

People have claimed, ( correctly I believe) , that Cardiff City have a twelfth player. The collective willpower of everyone on and off the field does have an effect in driving success sometimes against the odds. If we lose that, we lose everything.
All the blood sweat and tears which brought us from tedious mediocrity in the lower leagues into a position where we have not only been promoted to but are on the verge of establishing ourselves in the Premiership.

Right now this collective willpower is in a state of turmoil , focussing itself on frustrating matters which we cannot effect or alter. Unless we can pull ourselves together now and get back to what we're supposed to be all about, I can see it destroying the club.

I generally avoid mentioning the off field scandals and disputed which spoiled and ruined everything the last time we got into the premiership, but let's not fail to learn the lessons from that.

I think what I am saying here is very very important, and I urge everyone to consider it .

Agree with you Roathie. But there is always two sides to any coin. And fans want to know the score! Come game time, I think all will focus on the football..

Re: Writing on the Wall ? Up to Us !

Thu Feb 21, 2019 10:12 pm

Great post but expect nothing less from a great poster.

Re: Writing on the Wall ? Up to Us !

Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:35 am

I'm embarrassed by but grateful for the very kind comments about the post and I must thank the authors of them.

Perhaps it shows the great force of positive willpower and unity we can exert together, putting any small differences and big sadnesses aside to achieve what might seem impossible targets, but which prove again and again to be possible .

I'm increasingly intrigued by this Roathy character though, cause at least one person apparently still thinks I'm him.

Re: Writing on the Wall ? Up to Us !

Fri Feb 22, 2019 3:10 pm

SirJimmySchoular wrote:I'm embarrassed by but grateful for the very kind comments about the post and I must thank the authors of them.

Perhaps it shows the great force of positive willpower and unity we can exert together, putting any small differences and big sadnesses aside to achieve what might seem impossible targets, but which prove again and again to be possible .

I'm increasingly intrigued by this Roathy character though, cause at least one person apparently still thinks I'm him.


It’s when there’s an intelligent poster they immediately get called Roathy.

I got it too.

Re: Writing on the Wall ? Up to Us !

Fri Feb 22, 2019 3:13 pm

We have no choice but to put the big sadness aside now that our club are putting to aside the fact he was ever our player and don’t wish to pay. We have lost the collective unity created by Sala’s death which could have been w massive difference in survival

Re: Writing on the Wall ? Up to Us !

Fri Feb 22, 2019 3:21 pm

BarryWelsh88 wrote:We have no choice but to put the big sadness aside now that our club are putting to aside the fact he was ever our player and don’t wish to pay. We have lost the collective unity created by Sala’s death which could have been w massive difference in survival


We Cardiff supporters have lost nothing. I'm afraid your constant dragging down of Cardiff, and numerous snide comments are not going to have the slightest effect on anyone else. You may just be better off following whichever team you really support, and leave this forum to the true City fans. :bluescarf:

Re: Writing on the Wall ? Up to Us !

Fri Feb 22, 2019 3:31 pm

Steve Zodiak wrote:
BarryWelsh88 wrote:We have no choice but to put the big sadness aside now that our club are putting to aside the fact he was ever our player and don’t wish to pay. We have lost the collective unity created by Sala’s death which could have been w massive difference in survival


We Cardiff supporters have lost nothing. I'm afraid your constant dragging down of Cardiff, and numerous snide comments are not going to have the slightest effect on anyone else. You may just be better off following whichever team you really support, and leave this forum to the true City fans. :bluescarf:


Well said.

Re: Writing on the Wall ? Up to Us !

Fri Feb 22, 2019 3:49 pm

If you can not see that the purity of the sincere tributes of our fans has now been tarnished to the point it’s almost hypocritical to use it as a motivating factor in staying up then that’s upto you. But singing his name has lost its meaning due to recent events.

Re: Writing on the Wall ? Up to Us !

Fri Feb 22, 2019 3:59 pm

BarryWelsh88 wrote:If you can not see that the purity of the sincere tributes of our fans has now been tarnished to the point it’s almost hypocritical to use it as a motivating factor in staying up then that’s upto you. But singing his name has lost its meaning due to recent events.


How has it?

If the news is correct then the transfer was complete with the FAW he is our player, the issue now would be his registration with the PL. so if that is the case then he is our player and we pay, let’s leave that down to the boardroom to sort out.

If he is/was our player at the time of his death according to the FAW then we have every right to sing his name home and away for years to come.

Fed up of seeing your depressing remarks and comments on here now, the Bournemouth match thread you wrote us off before kicking a ball

Re: Writing on the Wall ? Up to Us !

Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:03 pm

I have supported this club all my life and my desire to stay up is no more or less than anyone on this forum - but I do feel recent events are a distraction we will not overcome. It feels akin to the Malky situation where bad boardroom decisions (primarily tan in that case and for the record I support tan at this time) will hamper our bid

Re: Writing on the Wall ? Up to Us !

Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:05 pm

BarryWelsh88 wrote:If you can not see that the purity of the sincere tributes of our fans has now been tarnished to the point it’s almost hypocritical to use it as a motivating factor in staying up then that’s upto you. But singing his name has lost its meaning due to recent events.


If you think singing someone's name is going to make any difference to the way our players perform, or that the death of someone is going to have any long term motivation for players, your opinion is very different to mine. If I was playing now, I would have all the motivation I need, I would bust a gut to be playing PL football next season. I doubt very much if our players or our fans will give Sala much of a thought once tonight's match has kicked off. People have very short memories, and I recall all the ridiculous wailing at Princess Diana's funeral by people who had never set eyes on her. Was'nt long before these same people virtually forgot about her and went back to their garden parties and BBQ's.

Re: Writing on the Wall ? Up to Us !

Fri Feb 22, 2019 5:20 pm

Steve Zodiak wrote:
BarryWelsh88 wrote:If you can not see that the purity of the sincere tributes of our fans has now been tarnished to the point it’s almost hypocritical to use it as a motivating factor in staying up then that’s upto you. But singing his name has lost its meaning due to recent events.


If you think singing someone's name is going to make any difference to the way our players perform, or that the death of someone is going to have any long term motivation for players, your opinion is very different to mine. If I was playing now, I would have all the motivation I need, I would bust a gut to be playing PL football next season. I doubt very much if our players or our fans will give Sala much of a thought once tonight's match has kicked off. People have very short memories, and I recall all the ridiculous wailing at Princess Diana's funeral by people who had never set eyes on her. Was'nt long before these same people virtually forgot about her and went back to their garden parties and BBQ's.


That’s where I disagree.

The only things that have changed since the Huddersfield and Newcastle games (really poor displays) to the Arsenal, Bournemouth and Southampton games are the death of Sala and Niasse being signed. Personally I think it’s a combination of the two which is why our form has improved so much. But we can’t dispute that the death of Sala has brought everyone together at a time when we were at risk of losing the fans. That has spread to on field displays.

I also think the tragedy has loosened Warnock up. It’s not that he didn’t care before but now I think he has realised there are more important things. It has resulted in our three most impressive displays.

Re: Writing on the Wall ? Up to Us !

Fri Feb 22, 2019 5:28 pm

maccydee wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:
BarryWelsh88 wrote:If you can not see that the purity of the sincere tributes of our fans has now been tarnished to the point it’s almost hypocritical to use it as a motivating factor in staying up then that’s upto you. But singing his name has lost its meaning due to recent events.


If you think singing someone's name is going to make any difference to the way our players perform, or that the death of someone is going to have any long term motivation for players, your opinion is very different to mine. If I was playing now, I would have all the motivation I need, I would bust a gut to be playing PL football next season. I doubt very much if our players or our fans will give Sala much of a thought once tonight's match has kicked off. People have very short memories, and I recall all the ridiculous wailing at Princess Diana's funeral by people who had never set eyes on her. Was'nt long before these same people virtually forgot about her and went back to their garden parties and BBQ's.


That’s where I disagree.

The only things that have changed since the Huddersfield and Newcastle games (really poor displays) to the Arsenal, Bournemouth and Southampton games are the death of Sala and Niasse being signed. Personally I think it’s a combination of the two which is why our form has improved so much. But we can’t dispute that the death of Sala has brought everyone together at a time when we were at risk of losing the fans. That has spread to on field displays.

I also think the tragedy has loosened Warnock up. It’s not that he didn’t care before but now I think he has realised there are more important things. It has resulted in our three most impressive displays.


That's fair enough Maccydee, the forum is all about opinions and that's what keeps things interesting. :occasion5:

Re: Writing on the Wall ? Up to Us !

Fri Feb 22, 2019 5:49 pm

Steve Zodiak wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:
BarryWelsh88 wrote:If you can not see that the purity of the sincere tributes of our fans has now been tarnished to the point it’s almost hypocritical to use it as a motivating factor in staying up then that’s upto you. But singing his name has lost its meaning due to recent events.


If you think singing someone's name is going to make any difference to the way our players perform, or that the death of someone is going to have any long term motivation for players, your opinion is very different to mine. If I was playing now, I would have all the motivation I need, I would bust a gut to be playing PL football next season. I doubt very much if our players or our fans will give Sala much of a thought once tonight's match has kicked off. People have very short memories, and I recall all the ridiculous wailing at Princess Diana's funeral by people who had never set eyes on her. Was'nt long before these same people virtually forgot about her and went back to their garden parties and BBQ's.


That’s where I disagree.

The only things that have changed since the Huddersfield and Newcastle games (really poor displays) to the Arsenal, Bournemouth and Southampton games are the death of Sala and Niasse being signed. Personally I think it’s a combination of the two which is why our form has improved so much. But we can’t dispute that the death of Sala has brought everyone together at a time when we were at risk of losing the fans. That has spread to on field displays.

I also think the tragedy has loosened Warnock up. It’s not that he didn’t care before but now I think he has realised there are more important things. It has resulted in our three most impressive displays.


That's fair enough Maccydee, the forum is all about opinions and that's what keeps things interesting. :occasion5:


But I think it’s not necessarily the singing of Sala that is doing it per se. It’s just that the fans are unequivocally behind the players. Tackles are cheered, passes that go awry aren’t criticised.

No coincidence that our ‘confidence’ players like Reid, Ralls and Bennet have improved their performances. Murphy tracked back and made a class tackle and got a huge ovation and it looked like he felt ten feet tall.

Fans have been superb.