O.T - Harold Jones BBC doc

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-46838957

Did anybody watch this last month, Professor David Wilson did a documentary on Welsh child killer Harold Jones from Abertillery, he murdered 2 little girls in 1921 but was not sentenced to hanging due to his age at the time, he had 20 years in prison then left to start a new life in London where they now suspect he was the infamous Jack The Stripper In the 1960's, the UK's most unsolved serial killer case which to this day is still open.

Fascinating documentary, Fred Dineage also did a murder case book on Harold Jones with Professor David Wilson and others discussing the murders, this was equally fascinating and goes to show evil will always walk among us all.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-46838957

Did anybody watch this last month, Professor David Wilson did a documentary on Welsh child killer Harold Jones from Abertillery, he murdered 2 little girls in 1921 but was not sentenced to hanging due to his age at the time, he had 20 years in prison then left to start a new life in London where they now suspect he was the infamous Jack The Stripper In the 1960's, the UK's most unsolved serial killer case which to this day is still open.

Fascinating documentary, Fred Dineage also did a murder case book on Harold Jones with Professor David Wilson and others discussing the murders, this was equally fascinating and goes to show evil will always walk among us all.

I watched it what an evil b*stard.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-46838957

Did anybody watch this last month, Professor David Wilson did a documentary on Welsh child killer Harold Jones from Abertillery, he murdered 2 little girls in 1921 but was not sentenced to hanging due to his age at the time, he had 20 years in prison then left to start a new life in London where they now suspect he was the infamous Jack The Stripper In the 1960's, the UK's most unsolved serial killer case which to this day is still open.

Fascinating documentary, Fred Dineage also did a murder case book on Harold Jones with Professor David Wilson and others discussing the murders, this was equally fascinating and goes to show evil will always walk among us all.

I watched it what an evil b*stard.

Yes Jock totally agree, the Fred Dineage murder casebook episode that you can find on youtube is a lot more detailed about the 2 murders of the little girls, absolutely fascinating watch, the guy was tapped beyond belief.

Very interesting documentary which I watched. I happen to know that the police are quite certain of the identity of Jack the Stripper though, and it wasn't this chap . He was a famous individual who committed suicude whilst police were on their way to arrest him and it was felt at the time that there was nothing to be gained by embarrassing the family .
I don't think there's actually much evidence to implicate Jones either, just theorising years later . Yes he lived in the area along with about twelve million other people , in a city which sometimes doubles in population with tourists and commuters, and yes he was a homicidal b*stard. However, we have no idea whatsoever how many other killers were in the area at the time, or whether the culprit has done it before.

Interesting theory ,but no more than that.if the metropolitan police got it wrong at the time and we exclude all the other possibilities I've mentioned then it's possible I suppose, but very unlikely.

Another connected thing to consider... The man I've referred to who committed suicude, well some people think he was actually murdered by the Krays in retribution for his crimes. Urban myth perhaps , but the twins were certainly convinced that he was the culprit and were after him at the time.

Very interesting documentary which I watched. I happen to know that the police are quite certain of the identity of Jack the Stripper though, and it wasn't this chap . He was a famous individual who committed suicude whilst police were on their way to arrest him and it was felt at the time that there was nothing to be gained by embarrassing the family .
I don't think there's actually much evidence to implicate Jones either, just theorising years later . Yes he lived in the area along with about twelve million other people , in a city which sometimes doubles in population with tourists and commuters, and yes he was a homicidal b*stard. However, we have no idea whatsoever how many other killers were in the area at the time, or whether the culprit has done it before.

Interesting theory ,but no more than that.if the metropolitan police got it wrong at the time and we exclude all the other possibilities I've mentioned then it's possible I suppose, but very unlikely.

Another connected thing to consider... The man I've referred to who committed suicude, well some people think he was actually murdered by the Krays in retribution for his crimes. Urban myth perhaps , but the twins were certainly convinced that he was the culprit and were after him at the time.

Who's the guy in question mate?

Oh yes i watched it theres 1 on youtube just about the 2 murders of the young girls in abertillery. I live local to abertillery so i got right in to the story. I also know his nephew he lives in the same village as me and his son looks like him. Although they had compelling evidence in the show its mad to believe how he wasnt a suspect at the time. He kept his secret well so nobody would suspect him. Well interesting story

Very interesting documentary which I watched. I happen to know that the police are quite certain of the identity of Jack the Stripper though, and it wasn't this chap . He was a famous individual who committed suicude whilst police were on their way to arrest him and it was felt at the time that there was nothing to be gained by embarrassing the family .
I don't think there's actually much evidence to implicate Jones either, just theorising years later . Yes he lived in the area along with about twelve million other people , in a city which sometimes doubles in population with tourists and commuters, and yes he was a homicidal b*stard. However, we have no idea whatsoever how many other killers were in the area at the time, or whether the culprit has done it before.

Interesting theory ,but no more than that.if the metropolitan police got it wrong at the time and we exclude all the other possibilities I've mentioned then it's possible I suppose, but very unlikely.

Another connected thing to consider... The man I've referred to who committed suicude, well some people think he was actually murdered by the Krays in retribution for his crimes. Urban myth perhaps , but the twins were certainly convinced that he was the culprit and were after him at the time.

Who's the guy in question mate?

Online search suggests a boxer, Freddie Mills.

Very interesting documentary which I watched. I happen to know that the police are quite certain of the identity of Jack the Stripper though, and it wasn't this chap . He was a famous individual who committed suicude whilst police were on their way to arrest him and it was felt at the time that there was nothing to be gained by embarrassing the family .
I don't think there's actually much evidence to implicate Jones either, just theorising years later . Yes he lived in the area along with about twelve million other people , in a city which sometimes doubles in population with tourists and commuters, and yes he was a homicidal b*stard. However, we have no idea whatsoever how many other killers were in the area at the time, or whether the culprit has done it before.

Interesting theory ,but no more than that.if the metropolitan police got it wrong at the time and we exclude all the other possibilities I've mentioned then it's possible I suppose, but very unlikely.

Another connected thing to consider... The man I've referred to who committed suicude, well some people think he was actually murdered by the Krays in retribution for his crimes. Urban myth perhaps , but the twins were certainly convinced that he was the culprit and were after him at the time.

Who's the guy in question mate?

Online search suggests a boxer, Freddie Mills.

Yes just read a story on it and it sounds as if it was Freddie Mills, Frankie Fraser God Rest him spilled all to a detective, it was shockingly dark the London underworld so sounds about right, case closed

Very interesting documentary which I watched. I happen to know that the police are quite certain of the identity of Jack the Stripper though, and it wasn't this chap . He was a famous individual who committed suicude whilst police were on their way to arrest him and it was felt at the time that there was nothing to be gained by embarrassing the family .
I don't think there's actually much evidence to implicate Jones either, just theorising years later . Yes he lived in the area along with about twelve million other people , in a city which sometimes doubles in population with tourists and commuters, and yes he was a homicidal b*stard. However, we have no idea whatsoever how many other killers were in the area at the time, or whether the culprit has done it before.

Interesting theory ,but no more than that.if the metropolitan police got it wrong at the time and we exclude all the other possibilities I've mentioned then it's possible I suppose, but very unlikely.

Another connected thing to consider... The man I've referred to who committed suicude, well some people think he was actually murdered by the Krays in retribution for his crimes. Urban myth perhaps , but the twins were certainly convinced that he was the culprit and were after him at the time.

Who's the guy in question mate?

Hes thinking of the security guard mungo ireland but whats interesting is they both worked on the same trading estate where bits of paint were found on a few of the victims bodies. Mungo ireland was the security guard of the estate. But also jones was working there under the name harold stevens. He had a wife and daughter in london and would disappear for a few days at a time i think to kill the women. Also a guy called freddie mills an ex british champ boxer who rang the krays to kill him is a suspect. Really interesting story and im convinced he is jack the stripper. Defo between jones and ireland for me but with jones history and thirst for killing its got to be him.

Very interesting documentary which I watched. I happen to know that the police are quite certain of the identity of Jack the Stripper though, and it wasn't this chap . He was a famous individual who committed suicude whilst police were on their way to arrest him and it was felt at the time that there was nothing to be gained by embarrassing the family .
I don't think there's actually much evidence to implicate Jones either, just theorising years later . Yes he lived in the area along with about twelve million other people , in a city which sometimes doubles in population with tourists and commuters, and yes he was a homicidal b*stard. However, we have no idea whatsoever how many other killers were in the area at the time, or whether the culprit has done it before.

Interesting theory ,but no more than that.if the metropolitan police got it wrong at the time and we exclude all the other possibilities I've mentioned then it's possible I suppose, but very unlikely.

Another connected thing to consider... The man I've referred to who committed suicude, well some people think he was actually murdered by the Krays in retribution for his crimes. Urban myth perhaps , but the twins were certainly convinced that he was the culprit and were after him at the time.

Who's the guy in question mate?

Online search suggests a boxer, Freddie Mills.

Yes just read a story on it and it sounds as if it was Freddie Mills, Frankie Fraser God Rest him spilled all to a detective, it was shockingly dark the London underworld so sounds about right, case closed

Not mills for me defo think jones

Very interesting documentary which I watched. I happen to know that the police are quite certain of the identity of Jack the Stripper though, and it wasn't this chap . He was a famous individual who committed suicude whilst police were on their way to arrest him and it was felt at the time that there was nothing to be gained by embarrassing the family .
I don't think there's actually much evidence to implicate Jones either, just theorising years later . Yes he lived in the area along with about twelve million other people , in a city which sometimes doubles in population with tourists and commuters, and yes he was a homicidal b*stard. However, we have no idea whatsoever how many other killers were in the area at the time, or whether the culprit has done it before.

Interesting theory ,but no more than that.if the metropolitan police got it wrong at the time and we exclude all the other possibilities I've mentioned then it's possible I suppose, but very unlikely.

Another connected thing to consider... The man I've referred to who committed suicude, well some people think he was actually murdered by the Krays in retribution for his crimes. Urban myth perhaps , but the twins were certainly convinced that he was the culprit and were after him at the time.

Who's the guy in question mate?

I'd have pm'd it to you, but since someone's already said it and it's apparently all over the Internet , yes it was Freddy Mills. I've seen a file and spoke many years ago to one of the investigating officers, so I'm pretty satisfied it's not just a rumour or some bullshit from mad frankie to cash in on his TV image.
Apparently there were fingerprints and articles of clothing found in his effects after he died .

Very interesting documentary which I watched. I happen to know that the police are quite certain of the identity of Jack the Stripper though, and it wasn't this chap . He was a famous individual who committed suicude whilst police were on their way to arrest him and it was felt at the time that there was nothing to be gained by embarrassing the family .
I don't think there's actually much evidence to implicate Jones either, just theorising years later . Yes he lived in the area along with about twelve million other people , in a city which sometimes doubles in population with tourists and commuters, and yes he was a homicidal b*stard. However, we have no idea whatsoever how many other killers were in the area at the time, or whether the culprit has done it before.

Interesting theory ,but no more than that.if the metropolitan police got it wrong at the time and we exclude all the other possibilities I've mentioned then it's possible I suppose, but very unlikely.

Another connected thing to consider... The man I've referred to who committed suicude, well some people think he was actually murdered by the Krays in retribution for his crimes. Urban myth perhaps , but the twins were certainly convinced that he was the culprit and were after him at the time.

Who's the guy in question mate?

Online search suggests a boxer, Freddie Mills.

Yes just read a story on it and it sounds as if it was Freddie Mills, Frankie Fraser God Rest him spilled all to a detective, it was shockingly dark the London underworld so sounds about right, case closed

Not mills for me defo think jones

I hesitate to ask, but I'm interested how you can feel so certain about something which you can't have any evidence of.
Has some potty theory on a documentary really convinced you ?

Very interesting documentary which I watched. I happen to know that the police are quite certain of the identity of Jack the Stripper though, and it wasn't this chap . He was a famous individual who committed suicude whilst police were on their way to arrest him and it was felt at the time that there was nothing to be gained by embarrassing the family .
I don't think there's actually much evidence to implicate Jones either, just theorising years later . Yes he lived in the area along with about twelve million other people , in a city which sometimes doubles in population with tourists and commuters, and yes he was a homicidal b*stard. However, we have no idea whatsoever how many other killers were in the area at the time, or whether the culprit has done it before.

Interesting theory ,but no more than that.if the metropolitan police got it wrong at the time and we exclude all the other possibilities I've mentioned then it's possible I suppose, but very unlikely.

Another connected thing to consider... The man I've referred to who committed suicude, well some people think he was actually murdered by the Krays in retribution for his crimes. Urban myth perhaps , but the twins were certainly convinced that he was the culprit and were after him at the time.

Who's the guy in question mate?

I'd have pm'd it to you, but since someone's already said it and it's apparently all over the Internet , yes it was Freddy Mills. I've seen a file and spoke many years ago to one of the investigating officers, so I'm pretty satisfied it's not just a rumour or some bullshit from mad frankie to cash in on his TV image.
Apparently there were fingerprints and articles of clothing found in his effects after he died .

Oh, forgot to mention because it was a long time ago but it's also come back to me that he left a note confessing. Definitely his handwriting, but again some suggest that he was forced to write it by Kray's monkeys. I'm about 80/2O that it was suicude and the Kray's took "credit" for it as part of their ongoing efforts to come across as nice people

Very interesting documentary which I watched. I happen to know that the police are quite certain of the identity of Jack the Stripper though, and it wasn't this chap . He was a famous individual who committed suicude whilst police were on their way to arrest him and it was felt at the time that there was nothing to be gained by embarrassing the family .
I don't think there's actually much evidence to implicate Jones either, just theorising years later . Yes he lived in the area along with about twelve million other people , in a city which sometimes doubles in population with tourists and commuters, and yes he was a homicidal b*stard. However, we have no idea whatsoever how many other killers were in the area at the time, or whether the culprit has done it before.

Interesting theory ,but no more than that.if the metropolitan police got it wrong at the time and we exclude all the other possibilities I've mentioned then it's possible I suppose, but very unlikely.

Another connected thing to consider... The man I've referred to who committed suicude, well some people think he was actually murdered by the Krays in retribution for his crimes. Urban myth perhaps , but the twins were certainly convinced that he was the culprit and were after him at the time.

Who's the guy in question mate?

Online search suggests a boxer, Freddie Mills.

Yes just read a story on it and it sounds as if it was Freddie Mills, Frankie Fraser God Rest him spilled all to a detective, it was shockingly dark the London underworld so sounds about right, case closed

Not mills for me defo think jones

I hesitate to ask, but I'm interested how you can feel so certain about something which you can't have any evidence of.
Has some potty theory on a documentary really convinced you ?

Well theres certainly a lot of evidence pointing towards Jones.

What evidence ?

What evidence ?

Well he had previous for murder and people who kill before normally kill again. He lived within miles of all the murders totally under the radar. His own daughter said that he would disappear for days on end. He worked in the factory which had the paint which was found on their bodies. It sounds too me that you didnt watch it there was also similarities with the aber murders and the jack the stripper killings. The police didnt even know he was living in the area. Its only my opinion that i think it was him i dont know that though coz i wasnt there but that documentary convinced me. And since that they have reopend the case and he is now a suspect. A inspector that worked on the case was on there and he said the evidence on jones was strong.

What evidence ?

Well he had previous for murder and people who kill before normally kill again. He lived within miles of all the murders totally under the radar. His own daughter said that he would disappear for days on end. He worked in the factory which had the paint which was found on their bodies. It sounds too me that you didnt watch it there was also similarities with the aber murders and the jack the stripper killings. The police didnt even know he was living in the area. Its only my opinion that i think it was him i dont know that though coz i wasnt there but that documentary convinced me. And since that they have reopend the case and he is now a suspect. A inspector that worked on the case was on there and he said the evidence on jones was strong.

Yes I watched it and I took all that on board . I don't think there was any Met D.I saying quite that though.
Thing is, that none of it is evidence . It's journalism which asserts that it's possible , and of course it is possible , but as I said earlier he was one of about 12 million people living in that area and I can assure you that there are and were plenty of other choice cunts living there too. It's not like finding out that there was a former murderer living in Llantwit Major when murders occurred there.
Incidentally , there would have been dozens of other murders there during the period , so why not try and put all of them down to Jones ?
Nice TV, but it's a non starter I'm afraid, but it does show how easy it is for a TV crew to make something sound credible.
When we say evidence, we mean something solid and legally admissible which we can present to a jury and convince them that there's no reasonable doubt that he killed them, not a few carefully picked and smoothly joined facts which make it sound possible .
Not having a go at you by the way, it's just that it's an interesting thing to chat about and I say this because some people here seem to get offended when you put the other point of view.

What evidence ?

Well he had previous for murder and people who kill before normally kill again. He lived within miles of all the murders totally under the radar. His own daughter said that he would disappear for days on end. He worked in the factory which had the paint which was found on their bodies. It sounds too me that you didnt watch it there was also similarities with the aber murders and the jack the stripper killings. The police didnt even know he was living in the area. Its only my opinion that i think it was him i dont know that though coz i wasnt there but that documentary convinced me. And since that they have reopend the case and he is now a suspect. A inspector that worked on the case was on there and he said the evidence on jones was strong.

Yes I watched it and I took all that on board . I don't think there was any Met D.I saying quite that though.
Thing is, that none of it is evidence . It's journalism which asserts that it's possible , and of course it is possible , but as I said earlier he was one of about 12 million people living in that area and I can assure you that there are and were plenty of other choice cunts living there too. It's not like finding out that there was a former murderer living in Llantwit Major when murders occurred there.
Incidentally , there would have been dozens of other murders there during the period , so why not try and put all of them down to Jones ?
Nice TV, but it's a non starter I'm afraid, but it does show how easy it is for a TV crew to make something sound credible.
When we say evidence, we mean something solid and legally admissible which we can present to a jury and convince them that there's no reasonable doubt that he killed them, not a few carefully picked and smoothly joined facts which make it sound possible .
Not having a go at you by the way, it's just that it's an interesting thing to chat about and I say this because some people here seem to get offended when you put the other point of view.

Didnt you see the detective that worked on the case in the 90s when it was reopened. He was on towards the end of the documentary they took him back to aber to show him all the evidence they had against jones and he said that it could well of been him. The paint could only come from the trading estate where he worked thats why they thouggt it was him. No paint was found on any other murdered people back then so thats why he didnt come up against other murders. Bowever there is 1 in swansea that they say jones could have killed as well. The census was difficult to do around the 2nd world war and jones wasnt known to this area until years later. So when he left aber no one knew where he went.

I'm from Aber and I know Neil Milkins who wrote the books. Which are a good read.

I'm from Aber and I know Neil Milkins who wrote the books. Which are a good read.

Neil came across very well in the Fred Dineage and David Wilson docs, I may try locate the books in question.

There's an author who said Freddie mills done it.all his theories were blown apart .it's my father who wrote the books about Harold Jones.We will know shortly about the Hammersmith nude murders case being reopened

There's an author who said Freddie mills done it.all his theories were blown apart .it's my father who wrote the books about Harold Jones.We will know shortly about the Hammersmith nude murders case being reopened

Your father's Neil? If so, pass on a message from me and my father who thoroughly enjoyed his input in the televised docs, isn't his second book about the nude murders being turned into a film?

There's an author who said Freddie mills done it.all his theories were blown apart .it's my father who wrote the books about Harold Jones.We will know shortly about the Hammersmith nude murders case being reopened

Your father's Neil? If so, pass on a message from me and my father who thoroughly enjoyed his input in the televised docs, isn't his second book about the nude murders being turned into a film?

Neil's my dad yes.thankyou and I will.
The 2nd book is about the adult Harold Jones and the Hammersmith nude murders.

What evidence ?

Well he had previous for murder and people who kill before normally kill again. He lived within miles of all the murders totally under the radar. His own daughter said that he would disappear for days on end. He worked in the factory which had the paint which was found on their bodies. It sounds too me that you didnt watch it there was also similarities with the aber murders and the jack the stripper killings. The police didnt even know he was living in the area. Its only my opinion that i think it was him i dont know that though coz i wasnt there but that documentary convinced me. And since that they have reopend the case and he is now a suspect. A inspector that worked on the case was on there and he said the evidence on jones was strong.

Yes I watched it and I took all that on board . I don't think there was any Met D.I saying quite that though.
Thing is, that none of it is evidence . It's journalism which asserts that it's possible , and of course it is possible , but as I said earlier he was one of about 12 million people living in that area and I can assure you that there are and were plenty of other choice cunts living there too. It's not like finding out that there was a former murderer living in Llantwit Major when murders occurred there.
Incidentally , there would have been dozens of other murders there during the period , so why not try and put all of them down to Jones ?
Nice TV, but it's a non starter I'm afraid, but it does show how easy it is for a TV crew to make something sound credible.
When we say evidence, we mean something solid and legally admissible which we can present to a jury and convince them that there's no reasonable doubt that he killed them, not a few carefully picked and smoothly joined facts which make it sound possible .
Not having a go at you by the way, it's just that it's an interesting thing to chat about and I say this because some people here seem to get offended when you put the other point of view.

Didnt you see the detective that worked on the case in the 90s when it was reopened. He was on towards the end of the documentary they took him back to aber to show him all the evidence they had against jones and he said that it could well of been him. The paint could only come from the trading estate where he worked thats why they thouggt it was him. No paint was found on any other murdered people back then so thats why he didnt come up against other murders. Bowever there is 1 in swansea that they say jones could have killed as well. The census was difficult to do around the 2nd world war and jones wasnt known to this area until years later. So when he left aber no one knew where he went.

Yeah I do recollect someone like that near the end , but I can't recall who it was. I do recall thinking at the time that what he said didn't hold water for some reason, either because he wasn't as involved in the case as the makers were trying to suggest, or that his statement was too general to treat seriously. I've got half an idea it might have been Mark Williams Thomas who's a media whore who often talks a lot of cock on such subjects.
Anyway, I know that's all very vague and general, so I'm going to download it and watch it again to remind myself why I formed that impression of the "witness " in question , and then I'll explain my view properly.
The thing about the paint might seem initially persuasive , but actually an awful lot of people worked at or had access to that trading estate didn't they ? So did people who delivered it, retailed it and of course bought some or worked somewhere else where it was used. Yes, it's possible that he could have been the culprit, providing that we accept that the Metroplolitan Police, the Kray twins, the Mills family and everyone else got it wrong, that the suicide note was a forgery by a man who was somehow innocently in possession of underwear belonging to different victims and that his fingerprints were planted at the scenes of the murders.
I'd be more open to the idea that Jones might have been a suspect in other murders at the time, but there's really no substantial proof of his involvement in anything.
Incidentally, whatever they said on the documentary , the local police would certainly have been informed where he was living because a conviction for murder means he's be a lifetime licencee, so he'd be on a register in the local police station and would have been under the scrutiny of a probation officer. This being so, they would have had every opportunity to consider him as a suspect and as far as we know they might well have done so - if he'd been excluded by some DC or DS by virtue of solid alibi or anything similar , well that wouldn't be written down anywhere where it'd be preserved . They don't keep records of every local enquiry carried out but which came to nothing on a murder investigation after its concluded .
Anyway, all very interesting. I'll watch that again and come back to you

There's an author who said Freddie mills done it.all his theories were blown apart .it's my father who wrote the books about Harold Jones.We will know shortly about the Hammersmith nude murders case being reopened

Your father's Neil? If so, pass on a message from me and my father who thoroughly enjoyed his input in the televised docs, isn't his second book about the nude murders being turned into a film?

Neil's my dad yes.thankyou and I will.
The 2nd book is about the adult Harold Jones and the Hammersmith nude murders.

So which son are you if you don't mind me asking?

There's an author who said Freddie mills done it.all his theories were blown apart .it's my father who wrote the books about Harold Jones.We will know shortly about the Hammersmith nude murders case being reopened

Your father's Neil? If so, pass on a message from me and my father who thoroughly enjoyed his input in the televised docs, isn't his second book about the nude murders being turned into a film?

Neil's my dad yes.thankyou and I will.
The 2nd book is about the adult Harold Jones and the Hammersmith nude murders.

So which son are you if you don't mind me asking?

Im rob buddy.i was brought up in Ebbw vale with my mother,dad lives in aber

There's an author who said Freddie mills done it.all his theories were blown apart .it's my father who wrote the books about Harold Jones.We will know shortly about the Hammersmith nude murders case being reopened

Your father's Neil? If so, pass on a message from me and my father who thoroughly enjoyed his input in the televised docs, isn't his second book about the nude murders being turned into a film?

Neil's my dad yes.thankyou and I will.
The 2nd book is about the adult Harold Jones and the Hammersmith nude murders.

So which son are you if you don't mind me asking?

Im rob buddy.i was brought up in Ebbw vale with my mother,dad lives in aber

Ok mate Just wondered if I knew u from aber.

I’ve just recently picked up Neil’s book and I have to say it is an absolutely brilliant read, very informative and well written, loads of photographs as well.

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