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Sala and this MB

Sat Feb 02, 2019 8:50 am

I’m sorry but everyone making up cringeworthy songs for Sala that will never catch on like it’s some kind of competition on the back of his all but apparent death has made this Messageboard almost unbearable the last week. Can we please just stop a moment and see how this looks - thanks.

Re: Sala and this MB

Sat Feb 02, 2019 9:03 am

Agreed.

Re: Sala and this MB

Sat Feb 02, 2019 9:05 am

Pathetic post by a pathetic poster.

He’s missed by al of us, why don’t you f*** off the forum if you don’t like it

Re: Sala and this MB

Sat Feb 02, 2019 9:06 am

just wish we could have a proper minutes silence and not the mess there was at the Emirates..

Re: Sala and this MB

Sat Feb 02, 2019 9:07 am

Wolfpac wrote:Pathetic post by a pathetic poster.

He’s missed by al of us, why don’t you f*** off the forum if you don’t like it


Really mate, missed? You hadn't heard of the guy a few months ago.

Re: Sala and this MB

Sat Feb 02, 2019 9:10 am

‘Missed’ ? - grief junky behaviour. The tragedy has rocked our club to its very core but ‘missed’??
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Re: Sala and this MB

Sat Feb 02, 2019 9:11 am

The disappearance affected me, trust me but some people are wallowing in grief now for someone they'd never met. Pay your silent and quiet respects and stop hogging the limelight.

Re: Sala and this MB

Sat Feb 02, 2019 10:24 am

While I tend to agree I don't think we need to be to harsh tho, people aren't doing anything with bad intentions (other than Roathie).

People deal with situations differently that's all.

dogfound wrote:just wish we could have a proper minutes silence and not the mess there was at the Emirates..


I agree.
I don't think an applause if really appropriate considering the situation.

Re: Sala and this MB

Sat Feb 02, 2019 10:47 am

What’s wrong in trying to agree on a chant for a human being taken by tragedy which has been massively upsetting, who ultimately was a bluebird at the time of the awful events. To insinuate it’s a competition is hugely disrespectful

I posted one on you tube with the words, which was a combination of “Don’t Cry For Me Argentina” melody and the words inspired and based on the 70 foot flag which some amazing City fans took to Nantes. (Which you also may think that was over the top as well????? )

I removed the video (as despite the time and effort it took me with the video software and the many thumbs up) as some fellow bluebirds were calling it disrespectful, shite and a joke. And even questioning my intentions. Honestly what’s the matter with some people,

Emiliano looks destined for another regergitated, generic and copied over familiar chant with the words changed, probably a Liverpool one again.

Hope I am wrong, because as a club and fan base we have handled this tragedy respectfully and have been a credit to Emilianos family and the football world.

Re: Sala and this MB

Sat Feb 02, 2019 11:10 am

Not questioned anybody’s intentions - but 90% of the songs suggested have been awful anyway and it has come across to many like a competition to get your song sung which is tacky and tasteless.

Re: Sala and this MB

Sat Feb 02, 2019 11:17 am

tangledupinblue wrote:What’s wrong in trying to agree on a chant for a human being taken by tragedy which has been massively upsetting, who ultimately was a bluebird at the time of the awful events. To insinuate it’s a competition is hugely disrespectful

I posted one on you tube with the words, which was a combination of “Don’t Cry For Me Argentina” melody and the words inspired and based on the 70 foot flag which some amazing City fans took to Nantes. (Which you also may think that was over the top as well????? )

I removed the video (as despite the time and effort it took me with the video software and the many thumbs up) as some fellow bluebirds were calling it disrespectful, shite and a joke. And even questioning my intentions. Honestly what’s the matter with some people,

Emiliano looks destined for another regergitated, generic and copied over familiar chant with the words changed, probably a Liverpool one again.

Hope I am wrong, because as a club and fan base we have handled this tragedy respectfully and have been a credit to Emilianos family and the football world.


I’ll be honest I thought the parody of Don’t cry for me Argentina was one of the most ridiculous ones.

Obviously everyone has the best intentions but I have put elsewhere it’s getting a bit cringe worthy and much like the Diana syndrome with race to be most upset.

I was gutted on the day and still am a bit but missed? It is a tragedy as is any accident where innocent people die. Those that met him (like Choo and the gaffer) have every right to be devastated but it cannot be the case for people who didn’t know him or meet him. I’m sorry it just isn’t. They are upset and there are clearly different levels of upset. But it cannot be devastation which comes from personally having some form of relationship.

Re: Sala and this MB

Sat Feb 02, 2019 11:18 am

I think everyone should be allowed to deal with this in which ever way they feel is appropriate for them.

Re: Sala and this MB

Sat Feb 02, 2019 11:20 am

I’ll follow that with what the guys did going to Nantes was a class act and absolutely appropriate even if the wording on the banner was ridiculous.

Beautiful Bluebird!!!! That made me cringe.

Re: Sala and this MB

Sat Feb 02, 2019 11:26 am

dogfound wrote:just wish we could have a proper minutes silence and not the mess there was at the Emirates..

Surely we can't do this until the bodies are found and/or the legal processes are exhausted? :?

Re: Sala and this MB

Sat Feb 02, 2019 11:27 am

Sven wrote:
dogfound wrote:just wish we could have a proper minutes silence and not the mess there was at the Emirates..

Surely we can't do this until the bodies are found and/or the legal processes are exhausted? :?


Yeah I thought that. But it might be that the bodies are never found.

That’s why songs are so good.

Re: Sala and this MB

Sat Feb 02, 2019 11:28 am

It was a tragic event and I feel sorry for the families of both people involved. As far as missed is concerned, I think that is going way over the top. I am sure both men are terribly missed by family and friends, but certainly not by me. I never knew them, never met them, in fact have never set eyes on either of them. I think it is only right that fans pay their respects today, but surely then it is time to move on. We have lost many former players as well as hardcore club supporters over the years, but they appear to have attracted far less attention than someone most of us have never seen, and had probably never even heard of until a few weeks back. I think there comes a time when we pay our respects and look to the future rather than continuing to wallow in the past.

Re: Sala and this MB

Sat Feb 02, 2019 11:45 am

epping blue wrote:I think everyone should be allowed to deal with this in which ever way they feel is appropriate for them.


Absolutely, however, lines can and have been crossed at times which has moved the respect into the realms of disrespect.

As an example, the phrase, I feel like I have lost a family member has been used by a few posters. That is disrespectful to those that have actually lost a loved one and we should not be imposing ourselves on their grief.

I'm sure people's intentions are in the right place but it's crossed lines at times and it does seem like some people have tried to make this about 'us'.

Re: Sala and this MB

Sat Feb 02, 2019 11:51 am

RV Casual wrote:
epping blue wrote:I think everyone should be allowed to deal with this in which ever way they feel is appropriate for them.


Absolutely, however, lines can and have been crossed at times which has moved the respect into the realms of disrespect.

As an example, the phrase, I feel like I have lost a family member has been used by a few posters. That is disrespectful to those that have actually lost a loved one and we should not be imposing ourselves on their grief.

I'm sure people's intentions are in the right place but it's crossed lines at times and it does seem like some people have tried to make this about 'us'.


This.

I could even understand Leicester’s fans devastation in many ways as so many of them had a relationship with him that was unusually friendly. A bit like Sam and many of our fans.

If it was one of our established players I could sort of understand too.

But yeah it did cross lines in many ways.

Re: Sala and this MB

Sat Feb 02, 2019 11:52 am

A parody means to joke, mock or spoof something with imitation. I can assure you that was the last thing on my mind with “Don’t Cry For Me Argentina” , it’s Emilianos nations most famous and anthemic song , I used the melody with best intentions.

I can take constructive criticism no probs, it’s a chant that’s never going to be for everyone, just like Allez Allez! But to make out my idea or anyone else’s chant suggestion is done for a bit of personal glory or in this case as a joke, is hugely insulting. Sadly an often common spat on this board.

I agree comparing it to losing a family member is a bit over dramatic, and as a club we need to move on respectfully, Vince Payne’s post this morning is what we should be all about. :ayatollah:

Re: Sala and this MB

Sat Feb 02, 2019 12:03 pm

tangledupinblue wrote:A parody means to joke, mock or spoof something with imitation. I can assure you that was the last thing on my mind with “Don’t Cry For Me Argentina” , it’s Emilianos nations most famous and anthemic song , I used the melody with best intentions.

I can take constructive criticism no probs, it’s a chant that’s never going to be for everyone, just like Allez Allez! But to make out my idea or anyone else’s chant suggestion is done for a bit of personal glory or in this case as a joke, is hugely insulting. Sadly an often common spat on this board.

I agree comparing it to losing a family member is a bit over dramatic, and as a club we need to move on respectfully, Vince Payne’s post this morning is what we should be all about. :ayatollah:


I apologise parody was a poor choice of word.

Re: Sala and this MB

Sat Feb 02, 2019 12:06 pm

maccydee wrote:
tangledupinblue wrote:A parody means to joke, mock or spoof something with imitation. I can assure you that was the last thing on my mind with “Don’t Cry For Me Argentina” , it’s Emilianos nations most famous and anthemic song , I used the melody with best intentions.

I can take constructive criticism no probs, it’s a chant that’s never going to be for everyone, just like Allez Allez! But to make out my idea or anyone else’s chant suggestion is done for a bit of personal glory or in this case as a joke, is hugely insulting. Sadly an often common spat on this board.

I agree comparing it to losing a family member is a bit over dramatic, and as a club we need to move on respectfully, Vince Payne’s post this morning is what we should be all about. :ayatollah:


I apologise parody was a poor choice of word.


:ayatollah: cheers. And sorry of course I meant Vince Alm (typo)

Re: Sala and this MB

Sat Feb 02, 2019 12:24 pm

Wolfpac wrote:Pathetic post by a pathetic poster.

He’s missed by al of us, why don’t you f*** off the forum if you don’t like it

Obvious to me,that these posters are pathetic human beings,no understanding that is not your run of the mill"former player dies" senario,how people show emotion/s is up to the individual, and affects people vastly different to others (these said posters)how dare you suggest fans are wallowing in his loss,just because you feel it's not affected you (as badly as some) you think you can put down those posters,who are trying to think of ways to alleviate their sorrow?? I cannot believe some people, this has been a very emotionally charged period for the club and all that follow it,let people grieve,show respect,for a player,who a lot of fans hoped would fire the goals to keep our club in the premier league.just because he hadn't played for us,doesn't mean we cannot grieve his loss.F***ING IDIOTS!!

Re: Sala and this MB

Sat Feb 02, 2019 12:33 pm

maccydee wrote:
Sven wrote:
dogfound wrote:just wish we could have a proper minutes silence and not the mess there was at the Emirates..

Surely we can't do this until the bodies are found and/or the legal processes are exhausted? :?


Yeah I thought that. But it might be that the bodies are never found.

That’s why songs are so good.

Neil, no issue with (appropriate) songs but not the minutes silence at this point; and I'm sure Emiliano Sala's family would agree :thumbright:

Re: Sala and this MB

Sat Feb 02, 2019 12:55 pm

bluesince62 wrote:
Wolfpac wrote:Pathetic post by a pathetic poster.

He’s missed by al of us, why don’t you f*** off the forum if you don’t like it

Obvious to me,that these posters are pathetic human beings,no understanding that is not your run of the mill"former player dies" senario,how people show emotion/s is up to the individual, and affects people vastly different to others (these said posters)how dare you suggest fans are wallowing in his loss,just because you feel it's not affected you (as badly as some) you think you can put down those posters,who are trying to think of ways to alleviate their sorrow?? I cannot believe some people, this has been a very emotionally charged period for the club and all that follow it,let people grieve,show respect,for a player,who a lot of fans hoped would fire the goals to keep our club in the premier league.just because he hadn't played for us,doesn't mean we cannot grieve his loss.F***ING IDIOTS!!


Knew him personally did you? I afraid I think you have a problem grieving for a complete stranger. I have lost a son, so I know what true grief is like. Afraid I am unable to grieve for someone I saw a photograph of, or a couple of minutes on youtube. Did'nt know the lad, never set eyes on him, he was a complete stranger to me.I am terribly sorry for his parents as I know how they feel. I will let them grieve for him, they knew him and will miss him terribly. Unfortunately, I cant miss anyone who I never knew in the first place.

Re: Sala and this MB

Sat Feb 02, 2019 1:17 pm

Time to move on after today and let people grieve Privately

Re: Sala and this MB

Sat Feb 02, 2019 2:06 pm

So many of our fans playing on the grief it’s the opposite of respect

Re: Sala and this MB

Sat Feb 02, 2019 2:32 pm

Steve Zodiak wrote:
bluesince62 wrote:
Wolfpac wrote:Pathetic post by a pathetic poster.

He’s missed by al of us, why don’t you f*** off the forum if you don’t like it

Obvious to me,that these posters are pathetic human beings,no understanding that is not your run of the mill"former player dies" senario,how people show emotion/s is up to the individual, and affects people vastly different to others (these said posters)how dare you suggest fans are wallowing in his loss,just because you feel it's not affected you (as badly as some) you think you can put down those posters,who are trying to think of ways to alleviate their sorrow?? I cannot believe some people, this has been a very emotionally charged period for the club and all that follow it,let people grieve,show respect,for a player,who a lot of fans hoped would fire the goals to keep our club in the premier league.just because he hadn't played for us,doesn't mean we cannot grieve his loss.F***ING IDIOTS!!


Knew him personally did you? I afraid I think you have a problem grieving for a complete stranger. I have lost a son, so I know what true grief is like. Afraid I am unable to grieve for someone I saw a photograph of, or a couple of minutes on youtube. Did'nt know the lad, never set eyes on him, he was a complete stranger to me.I am terribly sorry for his parents as I know how they feel. I will let them grieve for him, they knew him and will miss him terribly. Unfortunately, I cant miss anyone who I never knew in the first place.


I'm so sorry that you lost your son. RIP. I couldn't even start to imagine how that must feel.

Re: Sala and this MB

Sat Feb 02, 2019 2:52 pm

Fergy1927 wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:
bluesince62 wrote:
Wolfpac wrote:Pathetic post by a pathetic poster.

He’s missed by al of us, why don’t you f*** off the forum if you don’t like it

Obvious to me,that these posters are pathetic human beings,no understanding that is not your run of the mill"former player dies" senario,how people show emotion/s is up to the individual, and affects people vastly different to others (these said posters)how dare you suggest fans are wallowing in his loss,just because you feel it's not affected you (as badly as some) you think you can put down those posters,who are trying to think of ways to alleviate their sorrow?? I cannot believe some people, this has been a very emotionally charged period for the club and all that follow it,let people grieve,show respect,for a player,who a lot of fans hoped would fire the goals to keep our club in the premier league.just because he hadn't played for us,doesn't mean we cannot grieve his loss.F***ING IDIOTS!!


Knew him personally did you? I afraid I think you have a problem grieving for a complete stranger. I have lost a son, so I know what true grief is like. Afraid I am unable to grieve for someone I saw a photograph of, or a couple of minutes on youtube. Did'nt know the lad, never set eyes on him, he was a complete stranger to me.I am terribly sorry for his parents as I know how they feel. I will let them grieve for him, they knew him and will miss him terribly. Unfortunately, I cant miss anyone who I never knew in the first place.


I'm so sorry that you lost your son. RIP. I couldn't even start to imagine how that must feel.


Thank you Fergy. It was in 2008 so time has moved on. You never fully get over it, barely a day passes where I do not think of the day it happened. I just accept life goes on, plenty of others have gone through exactly the same. This is the reason I cannot get my head around people using the word grief etc., with regards to someone many had never even heard of a month or so back. I feel sorry for all involved like most others, but I never knew either of the people involved, so that's as far is it goes from my point of view. I read about people passing away every day, actors, singers, sporting personalities etc. It's all very sad, but I can't help feeling some are over doing things here. Read on this forum someone suggesting we make some sort of tribute during every home match for the remainder of this season. Where do you draw the line? Why don't we go the full hog and applaud during every game for the next ten years, erect a statue maybe. May sound heartless, but I doubt if hardly anyone coming out with this stuff have ever set eyes on Sala. Don't hear the same sort of sympathy for the pilot or his family. Are people really devastated because someone lost their life, or because we lost a potential striker who could have kept us in the PL. I honestly don't know the answer to that.

Re: Sala and this MB

Sat Feb 02, 2019 3:23 pm

A very moving and true post by Steve.
Of course we're all sad about Emiliano, but with many people it's getting to be more virtue signalling than anything else, and making up songs about it is plain bloody silly to be honest.
Public gestures such as a minutes silence and wearing daffodils are called for and proper, but they must be both respectful and dignified . People singing along to jolly pop songs with modified lyrics are the opposite to that.

Re: Sala and this MB

Sat Feb 02, 2019 3:31 pm

bluesince62 wrote:
Wolfpac wrote:Pathetic post by a pathetic poster.

He’s missed by al of us, why don’t you f*** off the forum if you don’t like it

Obvious to me,that these posters are pathetic human beings,no understanding that is not your run of the mill"former player dies" senario,how people show emotion/s is up to the individual, and affects people vastly different to others (these said posters)how dare you suggest fans are wallowing in his loss,just because you feel it's not affected you (as badly as some) you think you can put down those posters,who are trying to think of ways to alleviate their sorrow?? I cannot believe some people, this has been a very emotionally charged period for the club and all that follow it,let people grieve,show respect,for a player,who a lot of fans hoped would fire the goals to keep our club in the premier league.just because he hadn't played for us,doesn't mean we cannot grieve his loss.F***ING IDIOTS!!


It’s not run of the mill former player dies. He didn’t play for us at all. Sorry to be so black and white but your post is the second worst post on this thread.

The worst being my misuse of the word parody which I rightly apologised for.