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UPDATED: REPORTS CLAIMING CITY BID FOR LUCAS ALARIO

Sun Jan 27, 2019 9:58 pm

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Cardiff City have made a move for Bayer Leverkusen striker Lucas Alario as they look to bolster their attacking options before the transfer window closes.

The Bluebirds recently snapped up Emiliano Sala from Nantes, but tragedy struck as the Argentine striker's plane went missing on the way to south Wales.

Neil Warnock is looking to bring in Alario and, according to Italian outlet Tutto Mercato, the Welsh giants have slapped in an offer.

Cardiff are willing to pay Leverkusen a loan fee of €1m, plus including an obligatory purchase option set at €15m.

However, Cardiff look to have a tough task persuading Leverkusen to sell as the German side view the 26-year-old as a key man heading into the second half of the season.

Leverkusen currently sit in ninth spot in the Bundesliga standings, just one point off the Europa League spots and seven behind the top four Champions League places.

Alario, who is under contract with Leverkusen until 2022, has netted seven times in 21 games for the BayArena club so far this season.

Re: “ LUCAS ALARIO “

Sun Jan 27, 2019 10:13 pm

Can we have him on loan ?

Lucas Alario

Sun Jan 27, 2019 10:21 pm

We have apparently made a 1 million euro loan offer for him with a view to buy £15 million euro.

Id like this one to come off. Hopefully could be an ideal fit for us given the circumstances. An argentinian like sala.

Re: “ LUCAS ALARIO “

Sun Jan 27, 2019 10:26 pm

pembroke allan wrote:Can we have him on loan ?

Yes as he is from abroad does not count as part of the loan quota

Re: “ LUCAS ALARIO “

Sun Jan 27, 2019 10:33 pm

THe fact that we are STILL looking for another striker indicates to me that there’s not a lot of confidence in Zohore.

We also really need the right back and midfielder in .

Must be extremely difficult for the guys at the club to keep this going after what has happened to Sala

Re: “ LUCAS ALARIO “

Sun Jan 27, 2019 11:08 pm

Igovernor wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Can we have him on loan ?

Yes as he is from abroad does not count as part of the loan quota




:happy1: :occasion5:

Re: “ LUCAS ALARIO “

Sun Jan 27, 2019 11:14 pm

Sounds like a bit of made up journalism I'm afraid. If they've still got to persuade him that'd be hard by Thursday, and if the club don't want to sell him they're hardly going to be wild about loaning him out.

Re: “ LUCAS ALARIO “

Sun Jan 27, 2019 11:51 pm

Really cannot see this happening as he is on contract until 2022 why would they loan him to us with a view to buy, looks like a non starter, good record though

years Team Apps (Gls)
2011–2015 Colón 60 (12)
2015–2017 River Plate 82 (41)
2017– Bayer Leverkusen 34 (10)
National team‡
2016– Argentina 3 (1)

Re: “ LUCAS ALARIO “

Mon Jan 28, 2019 12:13 am

Loans between Premier Leage clubs and other English counterparts are officially called temporary transfers.

Under the rules in the Premier League Handbook 2017/18 (Download PDF, size: 46.1MB), there are restrictions on how many players Premier League clubs can loan from other Premier League/English clubs.

They are:
- Premier League clubs may not register more than two players on loan at any one time.
- The maximum number of loans registrable in the same season is four, and, under no circumstances, shall more than one be from the same club at any one time.
- Premier League clubs cannot loan to another Premier League club a player they have acquired in the same transfer window.
- A Premier League club may loan not more than one of its goalkeepers to another Premier League club

With the exception of Welsh clubs competing in the competitions listed under Rule V.6.2, loans from a club in membership of another National Association do not count towards the above quotas.


So according to the PL rules we can have 1 more loan signing

Re: “ LUCAS ALARIO “

Mon Jan 28, 2019 12:39 am

snoopystorm wrote:Loans between Premier Leage clubs and other English counterparts are officially called temporary transfers.

Under the rules in the Premier League Handbook 2017/18 (Download PDF, size: 46.1MB), there are restrictions on how many players Premier League clubs can loan from other Premier League/English clubs.

They are:
- Premier League clubs may not register more than two players on loan at any one time.
- The maximum number of loans registrable in the same season is four, and, under no circumstances, shall more than one be from the same club at any one time.
- Premier League clubs cannot loan to another Premier League club a player they have acquired in the same transfer window.
- A Premier League club may loan not more than one of its goalkeepers to another Premier League club

With the exception of Welsh clubs competing in the competitions listed under Rule V.6.2, loans from a club in membership of another National Association do not count towards the above quotas.


So according to the PL rules we can have 1 more loan signing

Nope, read it carefully. Those are the rules for loans between Premier League/English clubs. Only 2 at a time, maximum 4 in one season.

Re: “ LUCAS ALARIO “

Mon Jan 28, 2019 6:40 am

Deano1 wrote:
snoopystorm wrote:Loans between Premier Leage clubs and other English counterparts are officially called temporary transfers.

Under the rules in the Premier League Handbook 2017/18 (Download PDF, size: 46.1MB), there are restrictions on how many players Premier League clubs can loan from other Premier League/English clubs.

They are:
- Premier League clubs may not register more than two players on loan at any one time.
- The maximum number of loans registrable in the same season is four, and, under no circumstances, shall more than one be from the same club at any one time.
- Premier League clubs cannot loan to another Premier League club a player they have acquired in the same transfer window.
- A Premier League club may loan not more than one of its goalkeepers to another Premier League club

With the exception of Welsh clubs competing in the competitions listed under Rule V.6.2, loans from a club in membership of another National Association do not count towards the above quotas.


So according to the PL rules we can have 1 more loan signing

Nope, read it carefully. Those are the rules for loans between Premier League/English clubs. Only 2 at a time, maximum 4 in one season.


You are correct there, loans from an FA other than in the uk are not subject to the quota's, if I am not mistaken, we can loan from Scot;and as it has its own FA and does not come under the English FA :thumbup:

Re: “ LUCAS ALARIO “

Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:18 am

Igovernor wrote:
Deano1 wrote:
snoopystorm wrote:Loans between Premier Leage clubs and other English counterparts are officially called temporary transfers.

Under the rules in the Premier League Handbook 2017/18 (Download PDF, size: 46.1MB), there are restrictions on how many players Premier League clubs can loan from other Premier League/English clubs.

They are:
- Premier League clubs may not register more than two players on loan at any one time.
- The maximum number of loans registrable in the same season is four, and, under no circumstances, shall more than one be from the same club at any one time.
- Premier League clubs cannot loan to another Premier League club a player they have acquired in the same transfer window.
- A Premier League club may loan not more than one of its goalkeepers to another Premier League club

With the exception of Welsh clubs competing in the competitions listed under Rule V.6.2, loans from a club in membership of another National Association do not count towards the above quotas.


So according to the PL rules we can have 1 more loan signing

Nope, read it carefully. Those are the rules for loans between Premier League/English clubs. Only 2 at a time, maximum 4 in one season.


You are correct there, loans from an FA other than in the uk are not subject to the quota's, if I am not mistaken, we can loan from Scot;and as it has its own FA and does not come under the English FA :thumbup:

Correct :thumbright:

Re: “ LUCAS ALARIO “

Mon Jan 28, 2019 10:17 am

SirJimmySchoular wrote:Sounds like a bit of made up journalism I'm afraid. If they've still got to persuade him that'd be hard by Thursday, and if the club don't want to sell him they're hardly going to be wild about loaning him out.



Money talks. Most players in the Bundesliga earn far less than Premier League players. We could probably triple his wages without overcommitting ourselves. A contract with Leverkusen until 2022 is basically there to make sure that they get a decent fee for him should he want to leave. A loan for the rest of the season with a purchase if we stay up sounds a good deal. Leverkusen are solidly mid table so are unlikely to be going into Europe or get relegated, so may be willing to let him go.

Perhaps the Argentinian angle would help the deal. Does he have the same agent as Sala? Or is it just a journalist trying to find an Argentinian striker somewhere in Europe and making up some fake news?

An improvement on what we have.

Re: “ LUCAS ALARIO “

Mon Jan 28, 2019 10:51 am

Lawnmower wrote:THe fact that we are STILL looking for another striker indicates to me that there’s not a lot of confidence in Zohore.

We also really need the right back and midfielder in .

Must be extremely difficult for the guys at the club to keep this going after what has happened to Sala


Zahore reminds me of Bothroyd. Scores when he wants but is usually lazy.

Re: “ LUCAS ALARIO “

Mon Jan 28, 2019 11:36 am

...or is on the injury list

Re: “ LUCAS ALARIO “

Mon Jan 28, 2019 11:54 am

Report: Cardiff City make £14m bid for Bayer Leverkusen's Lucas Alario
Danny Owen (HITC) @danny8195 - 11:00 28th Jan

Lucas Alario could reporteldy leave the Bundesliga for the Premier League with Neil Warnock's Cardiff City keen on the Argentina striker.

Cardiff City have reportedly made a big-money bid for Bayer Leverkusen striker Lucas Alario.


The 26-year-old Argentina international has endured a difficult season in the Bundesliga, scoring just twice in 15 appearances for Leverkusen and has lost his place in the starting XI as a result.

But, despite his difficult run of form, it is understood that Cardiff are keen to bring Alario to South Wales before Thursday’s transfer deadline.

The report claims that Neil Warnock’s side have made a bid to sign Alario on loan with a compulsory purchase option. The offer amounts to around £14 million.

Leverkusen have so far rebuffed Cardiff’s approaches, however, as they want to keep the skilful centre-forward until the end of the season.

Lucas Alario of Argentina in action during the International Test match between Argentina and Singapore at National Stadium on June 13, 2017 in Singapore.

The 2001 Champions League runners-up recently appointed former Ajax and Dortmund coach Peter Bosz and the swashbuckling Dutchman will be keen to offer every one of his players a clean slate. Alario scored nine goals in his debut season for the German giants after arriving from River Plate.

Reports are that Cardiff will make a new offer this week, however, so Leverkusen will need to stand firm.
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Re: “ LUCAS ALARIO “

Mon Jan 28, 2019 12:36 pm

bluebird58 wrote:
SirJimmySchoular wrote:Sounds like a bit of made up journalism I'm afraid. If they've still got to persuade him that'd be hard by Thursday, and if the club don't want to sell him they're hardly going to be wild about loaning him out.



Money talks. Most players in the Bundesliga earn far less than Premier League players. We could probably triple his wages without overcommitting ourselves. A contract with Leverkusen until 2022 is basically there to make sure that they get a decent fee for him should he want to leave. A loan for the rest of the season with a purchase if we stay up sounds a good deal. Leverkusen are solidly mid table so are unlikely to be going into Europe or get relegated, so may be willing to let him go.

Perhaps the Argentinian angle would help the deal. Does he have the same agent as Sala? Or is it just a journalist trying to find an Argentinian striker somewhere in Europe and making up some fake news?

An improvement on what we have.


It'd be a great move if it were true and that's a fact. This guy is top draw. It's interesting that when you put more or less the same stuff as was in the original article in a more positive way , it does sound more plausible. I think it'd have to be an outright purchase though in order to induce the other club to do a deal since that would give them the funds to replace him.

The new stuff which Sven has added also makes it more plausible , but I still think it's unlikely by Thursday unless the deal is much farther forward than we know .
Like other still more pressing transfer moved for other positions ,at least we haven't got long to wait , and then we'll know how realistic our plans are for the season.

Re: UPDATED: REPORTS CLAIMING CITY BID FOR LUCAS ALARIO

Mon Jan 28, 2019 12:56 pm

Good move this may come off. :bluebird:

Re: UPDATED: REPORTS CLAIMING CITY BID FOR LUCAS ALARIO

Mon Jan 28, 2019 1:21 pm

Just don’t let McKay anywhere near this

Re: UPDATED: REPORTS CLAIMING CITY BID FOR LUCAS ALARIO

Mon Jan 28, 2019 1:30 pm

snoopystorm wrote:Just don’t let McKay anywhere near this



I hope City totally stay clear of him, in my opinion if they deal with him, suspicion will fall on our club as well.

Re: UPDATED: REPORTS CLAIMING CITY BID FOR LUCAS ALARIO

Mon Jan 28, 2019 1:44 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
snoopystorm wrote:Just don’t let McKay anywhere near this



I hope City totally stay clear of him, in my opinion if they deal with him, suspicion will fall on our club as well.


Unfortunately clubs, big or small, have no choice but to deal with the Agents who represent the players they want.

Our club has, rightly, been praised for how they've dealt with the whole tragedy so I really don't see why having to deal with McKay should cast any sort of suspicion.

A necessary evil unfortunately if we want to sign decent players.

Re: UPDATED: REPORTS CLAIMING CITY BID FOR LUCAS ALARIO

Mon Jan 28, 2019 2:57 pm

snoopystorm wrote:Just don’t let McKay anywhere near this

I still can't believe he knew that tiny plane was going to travel at night across the sea with our new £17m player in there.
Getting side tracked now sorry.

Re: UPDATED: REPORTS CLAIMING CITY BID FOR LUCAS ALARIO

Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:37 pm

Not sure why we seem to be blaming the agent. I mean, he's got questions to answer I agree, but on the face of it he simply hired an air transport company he'd used before and they didn't do the job properly.
This isn't to say that he might not be found to have acted negligently or even criminally once it's been investigated, but that's true of all the other parties too.
I don't know - maybe some here know stuff about him which I don't .

Re: UPDATED: REPORTS CLAIMING CITY BID FOR LUCAS ALARIO

Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:46 pm

SirJimmySchoular wrote:Not sure why we seem to be blaming the agent. I mean, he's got questions to answer I agree, but on the face of it he simply hired an air transport company he'd used before and they didn't do the job properly.
This isn't to say that he might not be found to have acted negligently or even criminally once it's been investigated, but that's true of all the other parties too.
I don't know - maybe some here know stuff about him which I don't .



Geez Jim, there was myself thinking you knew it all :D

Re: UPDATED: REPORTS CLAIMING CITY BID FOR LUCAS ALARIO

Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:54 pm

Charlie Harper wrote:
SirJimmySchoular wrote:Not sure why we seem to be blaming the agent. I mean, he's got questions to answer I agree, but on the face of it he simply hired an air transport company he'd used before and they didn't do the job properly.
This isn't to say that he might not be found to have acted negligently or even criminally once it's been investigated, but that's true of all the other parties too.
I don't know - maybe some here know stuff about him which I don't .



Geez Jim, there was myself thinking you knew it all :D



Nah... Just more than most people.