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Airplanes in 2019

Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:10 pm

We are in 2019 and airplanes still don't have a GPS tracker that is battery powered and waterproof so that they can be located when there is incident for whatever reason.

You can buy a waterproof GPS tracker on amazon that is battery powered for under £50. This is waterproof and last for a few hours so why haven't they been developed for planes. Surely it would not cost much more to be able to create a tracker that is military grade so it can't be destroyed, Charges whilst the plane is running (like a car battery) and last for several hours while the plane is not in use. This would enable the plane to be located without needing power and the device would be waterproof so it couldn't be damaged by water. They could also be stored somewhere safe where they are likely to experience no damage at all like the black box.

Airplanes costs thousands to make and it blows my mind how they haven't developed something so simple and that would be a fair price to create and implement that could potentially save lives. If it was to be created it should be mandatory that every plane must have one. Even if the plane was to break up and traces of it was scattered everywhere at least the authorities could locate the some of the plane.

Re: Airplanes in 2019

Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:44 pm

You really believe that the so called black boxes suffer no damage?

Re: Airplanes in 2019

Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:52 pm

Welshman in CA wrote:You really believe that the so called black boxes suffer no damage?


Well they are the part of the plane that is the least likely to suffer with them being made with the purpose to survive accidents, surely this would be the best place to keep it. Besides the point the planes should still have some form of a GPS tracker

Re: Airplanes in 2019

Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:52 pm

It literally just said something similar.

It's madness in this day and age.

Re: Airplanes in 2019

Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:57 pm

Put it on the life raft. Not the plane. Worst situation the raft will be with the plane or people who've escaped.

Re: Airplanes in 2019

Thu Jan 24, 2019 10:00 pm

GPS systems on aircraft flying over the sea would not be picked up by ground control stations. There is talk of using GPS on aircraft which would be tracked by satellite systems, but as is the norm with almost everything, all boils down to cost. I think the USA is introducing some sort of new regulations within the next few years, but not sure exactly what. I should imagine new rules will apply eventually, even if it means us all paying extra for our flight tickets. The technology exists, but airline companies are notoriously slow at introducing improvements that incur extra costs. Not sure if this sort of safety feature would be compulsory on smaller aircraft.

Re: Airplanes in 2019

Thu Jan 24, 2019 10:08 pm

bluebird7291 wrote:Put it on the life raft. Not the plane. Worst situation the raft will be with the plane or people who've escaped.


Very Good Idea - But could be destroyed but its the best place to put it :)

Re: Airplanes in 2019

Thu Jan 24, 2019 10:12 pm

Steve Zodiak wrote:GPS systems on aircraft flying over the sea would not be picked up by ground control stations. There is talk of using GPS on aircraft which would be tracked by satellite systems, but as is the norm with almost everything, all boils down to cost. I think the USA is introducing some sort of new regulations within the next few years, but not sure exactly what. I should imagine new rules will apply eventually, even if it means us all paying extra for our flight tickets. The technology exists, but airline companies are notoriously slow at introducing improvements that incur extra costs. Not sure if this sort of safety feature would be compulsory on smaller aircraft.


Yes of course but in 2019 there should be something that can track planes now what ever it is and im suprised its not law.

Re: Airplanes in 2019

Thu Jan 24, 2019 10:13 pm

Just been told by a relative who flies light aircraft that the GPS used by pilots is as a navigation aid for themselves, but ground systems are in the main using radar as a means of tracking. Transponders are an additional aid also used, but as satellites do not have a blanket cover of the earth, GPS is not used by ground controllers to keep track of whatever is up in the air. All getting to scientific for me, but he says the technology certainly exists if those involved are prepared to spend the money.

Re: Airplanes in 2019

Thu Jan 24, 2019 10:37 pm

Steve Zodiak wrote:Just been told by a relative who flies light aircraft that the GPS used by pilots is as a navigation aid for themselves, but ground systems are in the main using radar as a means of tracking. Transponders are an additional aid also used, but as satellites do not have a blanket cover of the earth, GPS is not used by ground controllers to keep track of whatever is up in the air. All getting to scientific for me, but he says the technology certainly exists if those involved are prepared to spend the money.


Hopefully we can see something that tracks planes in the future when they aren't in use.

Re: Airplanes in 2019

Thu Jan 24, 2019 10:59 pm

SavageSkillzAJonTwitter wrote:We are in 2019 and airplanes still don't have a GPS tracker that is battery powered and waterproof so that they can be located when there is incident for whatever reason.

You can buy a waterproof GPS tracker on amazon that is battery powered for under £50. This is waterproof and last for a few hours so why haven't they been developed for planes. Surely it would not cost much more to be able to create a tracker that is military grade so it can't be destroyed, Charges whilst the plane is running (like a car battery) and last for several hours while the plane is not in use. This would enable the plane to be located without needing power and the device would be waterproof so it couldn't be damaged by water. They could also be stored somewhere safe where they are likely to experience no damage at all like the black box.

Airplanes costs thousands to make and it blows my mind how they haven't developed something so simple and that would be a fair price to create and implement that could potentially save lives. If it was to be created it should be mandatory that every plane must have one. Even if the plane was to break up and traces of it was scattered everywhere at least the authorities could locate the some of the plane.


The problem is the ocean is so deep in places whether the gps system was waterproof wouldn't make a difference, the water pressure would stop the signal transmitting. :(

Re: Airplanes in 2019

Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:16 pm

Cardiffcitymad wrote:
SavageSkillzAJonTwitter wrote:We are in 2019 and airplanes still don't have a GPS tracker that is battery powered and waterproof so that they can be located when there is incident for whatever reason.

You can buy a waterproof GPS tracker on amazon that is battery powered for under £50. This is waterproof and last for a few hours so why haven't they been developed for planes. Surely it would not cost much more to be able to create a tracker that is military grade so it can't be destroyed, Charges whilst the plane is running (like a car battery) and last for several hours while the plane is not in use. This would enable the plane to be located without needing power and the device would be waterproof so it couldn't be damaged by water. They could also be stored somewhere safe where they are likely to experience no damage at all like the black box.

Airplanes costs thousands to make and it blows my mind how they haven't developed something so simple and that would be a fair price to create and implement that could potentially save lives. If it was to be created it should be mandatory that every plane must have one. Even if the plane was to break up and traces of it was scattered everywhere at least the authorities could locate the some of the plane.


In 2019 it would cost more but we should be able to develop it, signal shouldnt have an issue in this day an age.
The problem is the ocean is so deep in places whether the gps system was waterproof wouldn't make a difference, the water pressure would stop the signal transmitting. :(

Re: Airplanes in 2019

Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:31 pm

SavageSkillzAJonTwitter wrote:In 2019 it would cost more but we should be able to develop it, signal shouldnt have an issue in this day an age.

But it is an issue, Black box's work to a depth of just over four kilometres (Just under 2.5 miles), and can "ping" once a second for 30 days before the battery runs out, they are fitted with an underwater locator beacon that starts emitting a pulse if its sensor touches water! But again, the ocean is a deep place hence MH370 not being found to date.