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“ The penalty incident “

Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:35 pm

Thoughts on this?

I was in the Ninian stand opposite it but still quite difficult to see, as it was the other side of the penalty box.

We’re last on MOTD tonight, but will wait for that to have a more informed opinion.

My first instinct was that it was a penalty - very surprised when the referee changed his mind after speaking to his assistant. The referee seemed certain behind any doubt it was a penalty at the time.

Re: “ The penalty incident “

Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:44 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:Thoughts on this?

I was in the Ninian stand opposite it but still quite difficult to see, as it was the other side of the penalty box.

We’re last on MOTD tonight, but will wait for that to have a more informed opinion.

My first instinct was that it was a penalty - very surprised when the referee changed his mind after speaking to his assistant. The referee seemed certain behind any doubt it was a penalty at the time.



Maybe the ref didn't look at lino or waited before giving pen? For him to change his mind the lino must have notified him of previous offence when he went over to talk to him! Very unusual for a ref to change mind when he looked so sure :old:

Re: “ The penalty incident “

Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:08 pm

Was sat in line from Grandstand, but still didn't have a clear view as was slightly off the ball and felt more like a tangle. I counted about half a dozen occasions today when the official clearly weren't in sync.
Very early on Mason gave them a free kick near our goal line from a fair way away, when the linesman gave nothing from a few yards away. There were a few over rulings for throw ins, and also there was a blatant corner for them late in the game when the ball was out by a foot or so, but the officials rule it still in.
Could we have had a penalty also, interesting to see if it's shown on MOTD.......... Waiting!

Re: “ The penalty incident “

Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:19 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:Thoughts on this?

I was in the Ninian stand opposite it but still quite difficult to see, as it was the other side of the penalty box.

We’re last on MOTD tonight, but will wait for that to have a more informed opinion.

My first instinct was that it was a penalty - very surprised when the referee changed his mind after speaking to his assistant. The referee seemed certain behind any doubt it was a penalty at the time.



ours was, it might no have been intentional but he completely takes hoilett out.

Re: “ The penalty incident “

Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:20 pm

Opposite end of the Ninian stand, looked like a pen but we were miles away, impossible to tell. I wasn't surprised it was given. Bennett reactions and the ref was clearly unsure as he took an age. Haven't seen a replay

Re: “ The penalty incident “

Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:22 pm

dogfound wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:Thoughts on this?

I was in the Ninian stand opposite it but still quite difficult to see, as it was the other side of the penalty box.

We’re last on MOTD tonight, but will wait for that to have a more informed opinion.

My first instinct was that it was a penalty - very surprised when the referee changed his mind after speaking to his assistant. The referee seemed certain behind any doubt it was a penalty at the time.



ours was, it might no have been intentional but he completely takes hoilett out.


Would definitely agree with that. On first viewing, I thought both were penalties. Still waiting for MOTD to show us.

Re: “ The penalty incident “

Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:25 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:
dogfound wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:Thoughts on this?

I was in the Ninian stand opposite it but still quite difficult to see, as it was the other side of the penalty box.

We’re last on MOTD tonight, but will wait for that to have a more informed opinion.

My first instinct was that it was a penalty - very surprised when the referee changed his mind after speaking to his assistant. The referee seemed certain behind any doubt it was a penalty at the time.



ours was, it might no have been intentional but he completely takes hoilett out.


Would definitely agree with that. On first viewing, I thought both were penalties. Still waiting for MOTD to show us.



theirs I actually thought he tripped Bennett but I was not very close.

Re: “ The penalty incident “

Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:45 pm

Changed my mind after seeing the footage.

It wasn’t a penalty for us.

Huddersfield should have had a free kick on the edge of the box for their penalty shout.

Re: “ The penalty incident “

Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:47 pm

Ours no, theirs contact/impeding outside box, then dive. Why do. Pundits hate us so muck??

Re: “ The penalty incident “

Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:48 pm

Theres was a free kick outside the box as that is where the initial foul happened.

Ours was a great tackle by the defender on Hoilett

Re: “ The penalty incident “

Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:48 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:Changed my mind after seeing the footage.

It wasn’t a penalty for us.

Huddersfield should have had a free kick on the edge of the box for their penalty shout.



you can not just wipe someone out like that..?

Re: “ The penalty incident “

Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:49 pm

dogfound wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:Changed my mind after seeing the footage.

It wasn’t a penalty for us.

Huddersfield should have had a free kick on the edge of the box for their penalty shout.



you can not just wipe someone out like that..?


I agreed with Jenas, the player got the ball and it was a great tackle.

Re: “ The penalty incident “

Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:49 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:Changed my mind after seeing the footage.

It wasn’t a penalty for us.

Huddersfield should have had a free kick on the edge of the box for their penalty shout.



So why did ref give us the decision after talking to lino? :roll:

Re: “ The penalty incident “

Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:53 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:Changed my mind after seeing the footage.

It wasn’t a penalty for us.

Huddersfield should have had a free kick on the edge of the box for their penalty shout.



So why did ref give us the decision after talking to lino? :roll:


No idea, very strange decision by the linesman in my opinion.

Re: “ The penalty incident “

Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:57 pm

I did'nt think either of them were penalties.

Re: “ The penalty incident “

Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:07 am

I was right behind Bennett and he brought him down definitely a pen to huddersfield.

Re: “ The penalty incident “

Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:09 am

Looked like he did bring him down to me but I thought outside the box rather than inside.

Re: “ The penalty incident “

Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:16 am

Welshman in CA wrote:Looked like he did bring him down to me but I thought outside the box rather than inside.

He carried on with it inside the box too I think.

Re: “ The penalty incident “

Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:04 am

Dahboy wrote:
Welshman in CA wrote:Looked like he did bring him down to me but I thought outside the box rather than inside.

He carried on with it inside the box too I think.

Quick,let's phone premier league chiefs,and inform them that they should have all 3 points,because as some fans think an injustice has taken place :banghead: and it was outside the box,and perhaps the linesman spotted something we didn't, wow some fans are hard work :roll:

Re: “ The penalty incident “

Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:19 am

There were two contacts, the first was outside the penalty box and wasn't a foul. The second was inside the box but the referee couldn't see it so asked linesman who could see it and he said no.
I don't think anyone could say definitively that it was or wasn't a significant contact really so it was dependent upon the linesmans opinion, and I'm certainly not going to argue with him.
It's also worth considering that the man was already going to ground from the first ( non foul ) contact when the second happened so I would suggest that he couldn't have impeded him at that stage.

Re: “ The penalty incident “

Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:24 am

SirJimmySchoular wrote:There were two contacts, the first was outside the penalty box and wasn't a foul. The second was inside the box but the referee couldn't see it so asked linesman who could see it and he said no.
I don't think anyone could say definitively that it was or wasn't a significant contact really so it was dependent upon the linesmans opinion, and I'm certainly not going to argue with him.
It's also worth considering that the man was already going to ground from the first ( non foul ) contact when the second happened so I would suggest that he couldn't have impeded him at that stage.


I disagree, I think it should have been a free kick just outside the penalty area - to Huddersfield.

If the referee didn’t see it, then why did he initially give a penalty? He only went over to the assistant referee because the assistant communicated that to him - as well as because of the pressure our players put on him.

Re: “ The penalty incident “

Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:31 am

bluesince62 wrote:
Dahboy wrote:
Welshman in CA wrote:Looked like he did bring him down to me but I thought outside the box rather than inside.

He carried on with it inside the box too I think.

Quick,let's phone premier league chiefs,and inform them that they should have all 3 points,because as some fans think an injustice has taken place :banghead: and it was outside the box,and perhaps the linesman spotted something we didn't, wow some fans are hard work :roll:

I said I think but you can phone them if you like.

Re: “ The penalty incident “

Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:47 am

worcester_ccfc wrote:Changed my mind after seeing the footage.

It wasn’t a penalty for us.

Huddersfield should have had a free kick on the edge of the box for their penalty shout.



The foul started outside our box and finished inside the box with their player going down.

I think both were pens.

Re: “ The penalty incident “

Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:07 am

nubbsy wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:Changed my mind after seeing the footage.

It wasn’t a penalty for us.

Huddersfield should have had a free kick on the edge of the box for their penalty shout.



The foul started outside our box and finished inside the box with their player going down.

I think both were pens.

Ours clearly no pen, their player played the ball.

Re: “ The penalty incident “

Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:14 am

Manager David Wagner said that "decisions like that make seasons" after the Premier League's bottom side Huddersfield Town were controversially denied a late penalty at relegation rivals Cardiff City.


With 14 minutes left, Huddersfield thought they had a golden opportunity to snatch what would only have been their third win of the season when referee Lee Mason awarded them a penalty after Cardiff's Joe Bennett brought down Florent Hadergjonaj.

But assistant referee Stuart Burt intervened to tell Mason that it was in fact Hadergjonaj who had fouled Bennett, and Mason reversed his decision, prompting a furious reaction from the Huddersfield dugout.

"I really can't find the words how this can happen," Wagner said.

"The fourth official had no idea either, he was a surprised as everyone else was. Decisions like this make tables and seasons. We have had so many decisions against us and I don't know why.

"It was clearly a penalty, the video footage speaks for itself and we have not got it."

Re: “ The penalty incident “

Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:35 am

Dahboy wrote:
nubbsy wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:Changed my mind after seeing the footage.

It wasn’t a penalty for us.

Huddersfield should have had a free kick on the edge of the box for their penalty shout.



The foul started outside our box and finished inside the box with their player going down.

I think both were pens.

Ours clearly no pen, their player played the ball.



That means nothing, no advantage.

Re: “ The penalty incident “

Sun Jan 13, 2019 7:26 am

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Re: “ The penalty incident “

Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:19 am

nubbsy wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:Changed my mind after seeing the footage.

It wasn’t a penalty for us.

Huddersfield should have had a free kick on the edge of the box for their penalty shout.



The foul started outside our box and finished inside the box with their player going down.

I think both were pens.


Well that comment proves it was not a penalty
The foul was commited outside the box, the referee did not play on so play should have been bought back for a free kick to them outside the box.

Re: “ The penalty incident “

Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:21 am

Gaynor Straight wrote:
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The only way i can see this being a pen is the fact the tackle is from behind which is deemed as dangerous but that would be harsh.
Other than that it is a great tackle by the defender

Re: “ The penalty incident “

Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:25 am

thomasblue wrote:
Gaynor Straight wrote:
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The only way i can see this being a pen is the fact the tackle is from behind which is deemed as dangerous but that would be harsh.
Other than that it is a great tackle by the defender


Hoilett is travelling quicker and just got around the defender who was already committed to the ball.