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Quality not Quantity

Sun Jan 06, 2019 7:29 pm

We need 2 quality signings in the January.
Neil Warnock said it himself "we are not going to bring in players who are not better than what we've got".
Ok don't!
I know it's not easy, but we need to pay the going price and act quickly. We have already missed one target who would improve the team..Nathaniel Clyne.
I want two players who, if fit, would get in our team. Just like Camerassa improved us.
NW has bemoaned the cost of players "Look at the Premier league, Abrahams for £18 million". But we could have got him cheaper in the Summer. Also NW had £10 m unspent in the summer, and bought Reid for £10m. i. e. £20 m could have been used for a centre forward that could have really improved the team. Where's Bobby Reid has had limited impact.
In the next month we have 3 games where we can pick up points - Huddersfield home (must win) and Newcastle (a) and Bournmouth (h). Clyne as full back would have improved our chances no end.

Unfortunately NW now says "it's going to be one of those jobs late in the window." That's a pity.
....But better late than never,as after our Bournmouth game there is a two week break and then we have a hard run in.
Get it done one quality right back and definitely a quality centre forward!!!
:thumbup:

Re: Quality not Quantity

Sun Jan 06, 2019 8:06 pm

and Wayne Rrony is a sticky ....vitally important or what! :sleepy2:

Re: Quality not Quantity

Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:12 pm

A few more need to shipped out by the end of this month .

Re: Quality not Quantity

Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:01 pm

Said exactly the same in the summer but unfortunately the owner/board don’t seem keen to bring in quality players. We always seem to be looking in the bargain basement & miss out on good targets because City don’t want to pay the fee or the wages. Speculate to accumulate doesn’t seem to come into it. As in the summer would have preferred to bring in a 15-20m striker & 1 other rather than 4. As with Arter and Camarasa you can’t beat quality. The club is within touching distance of staying up and can easily do it if only the board spent money on a couple of quality players. I have no doubt that had we had a Mitrovic or similar in the summer we would have been well clear of the drop zone by now.

Re: Quality not Quantity

Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:20 am

bridgendbluebird30 wrote:Said exactly the same in the summer but unfortunately the owner/board don’t seem keen to bring in quality players. We always seem to be looking in the bargain basement & miss out on good targets because City don’t want to pay the fee or the wages. Speculate to accumulate doesn’t seem to come into it. As in the summer would have preferred to bring in a 15-20m striker & 1 other rather than 4. As with Arter and Camarasa you can’t beat quality. The club is within touching distance of staying up and can easily do it if only the board spent money on a couple of quality players. I have no doubt that had we had a Mitrovic or similar in the summer we would have been well clear of the drop zone by now.


So do we bring in quality (Arter and Camarasa) or not?

Very contradictory post.

Speculate to accumulate is all good in principle but after working hard to clear the debts it would be foolhardy to spend too much.

Re: Quality not Quantity

Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:26 am

maccydee wrote:
bridgendbluebird30 wrote:Said exactly the same in the summer but unfortunately the owner/board don’t seem keen to bring in quality players. We always seem to be looking in the bargain basement & miss out on good targets because City don’t want to pay the fee or the wages. Speculate to accumulate doesn’t seem to come into it. As in the summer would have preferred to bring in a 15-20m striker & 1 other rather than 4. As with Arter and Camarasa you can’t beat quality. The club is within touching distance of staying up and can easily do it if only the board spent money on a couple of quality players. I have no doubt that had we had a Mitrovic or similar in the summer we would have been well clear of the drop zone by now.


So do we bring in quality (Arter and Camarasa) or not?

Very contradictory post.

Speculate to accumulate is all good in principle but after working hard to clear the debts it would be foolhardy to spend too much.


Firstly, I should have emphasised that both Arter & Camarasa are loan signings and not permanent and secondly I’m not saying to go mad but 1 or 2 quality players particularly the striker could be the difference between getting a 100+ million every year or return to the Championship. I believe the club would be far better buying less players but better players. Quality over quantity. Yes you have to think what happens if we get relegated but I can’t believe that any club wouldn’t want to give it a go. Look at the Championship clubs that have spent huge sums trying to get there. That’s for a reason, they can see the huge rewards that the PL brings. You survive that 1st season and then you can go from strength to strength with the huge sums every year to write off any debt & invest.

Why do they think that Fulham & Wolves have spent so much on promotion? Because the rewards are so great. Let’s see what happens this month but 24m so far is peanuts. Seems that Cardiff are trying to do everything on the cheap and if that means going down & benefiting from parachute payments they would be quite content. I hope that I am proved wrong. Why would a club work so hard to get promoted and then throw it away without giving it a go? Our problem is NW worked miracles in getting us promoted on a shoestring but are the club expecting us to survive in the PL on a shoestring budget? Time will tell.

Re: Quality not Quantity

Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:31 am

It's a simple point really.if we get two players out of the 25 and bring two really quality players in that might well make enough difference to keep us up. obviously there are no guarantees.
But at this stage it's a bit of a waste of time getting 4 who in the main may not improve the side much. And we end up with players not contributing but still being paid.
E.g. Madine paying wages and a signing on fee for almost nil reward. Tomlin and Pilks in good wages not even in the 25.
It makes most sense to get in 2 first readers and get one more out of the 25 along with Madine. :thumbup:

Re: Quality not Quantity

Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:06 am

bridgendbluebird30 wrote:
maccydee wrote:
bridgendbluebird30 wrote:Said exactly the same in the summer but unfortunately the owner/board don’t seem keen to bring in quality players. We always seem to be looking in the bargain basement & miss out on good targets because City don’t want to pay the fee or the wages. Speculate to accumulate doesn’t seem to come into it. As in the summer would have preferred to bring in a 15-20m striker & 1 other rather than 4. As with Arter and Camarasa you can’t beat quality. The club is within touching distance of staying up and can easily do it if only the board spent money on a couple of quality players. I have no doubt that had we had a Mitrovic or similar in the summer we would have been well clear of the drop zone by now.


So do we bring in quality (Arter and Camarasa) or not?

Very contradictory post.

Speculate to accumulate is all good in principle but after working hard to clear the debts it would be foolhardy to spend too much.


Firstly, I should have emphasised that both Arter & Camarasa are loan signings and not permanent and secondly I’m not saying to go mad but 1 or 2 quality players particularly the striker could be the difference between getting a 100+ million every year or return to the Championship. I believe the club would be far better buying less players but better players. Quality over quantity. Yes you have to think what happens if we get relegated but I can’t believe that any club wouldn’t want to give it a go. Look at the Championship clubs that have spent huge sums trying to get there. That’s for a reason, they can see the huge rewards that the PL brings. You survive that 1st season and then you can go from strength to strength with the huge sums every year to write off any debt & invest.

Why do they think that Fulham & Wolves have spent so much on promotion? Because the rewards are so great. Let’s see what happens this month but 24m so far is peanuts. Seems that Cardiff are trying to do everything on the cheap and if that means going down & benefiting from parachute payments they would be quite content. I hope that I am proved wrong. Why would a club work so hard to get promoted and then throw it away without giving it a go? Our problem is NW worked miracles in getting us promoted on a shoestring but are the club expecting us to survive in the PL on a shoestring budget? Time will tell.


Is that Fulham who spent so much and are currently 4 points below us.

Re: Quality not Quantity

Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:33 am

maccydee wrote:
bridgendbluebird30 wrote:
maccydee wrote:
bridgendbluebird30 wrote:Said exactly the same in the summer but unfortunately the owner/board don’t seem keen to bring in quality players. We always seem to be looking in the bargain basement & miss out on good targets because City don’t want to pay the fee or the wages. Speculate to accumulate doesn’t seem to come into it. As in the summer would have preferred to bring in a 15-20m striker & 1 other rather than 4. As with Arter and Camarasa you can’t beat quality. The club is within touching distance of staying up and can easily do it if only the board spent money on a couple of quality players. I have no doubt that had we had a Mitrovic or similar in the summer we would have been well clear of the drop zone by now.


So do we bring in quality (Arter and Camarasa) or not?

Very contradictory post.

Speculate to accumulate is all good in principle but after working hard to clear the debts it would be foolhardy to spend too much.


Firstly, I should have emphasised that both Arter & Camarasa are loan signings and not permanent and secondly I’m not saying to go mad but 1 or 2 quality players particularly the striker could be the difference between getting a 100+ million every year or return to the Championship. I believe the club would be far better buying less players but better players. Quality over quantity. Yes you have to think what happens if we get relegated but I can’t believe that any club wouldn’t want to give it a go. Look at the Championship clubs that have spent huge sums trying to get there. That’s for a reason, they can see the huge rewards that the PL brings. You survive that 1st season and then you can go from strength to strength with the huge sums every year to write off any debt & invest.

Why do they think that Fulham & Wolves have spent so much on promotion? Because the rewards are so great. Let’s see what happens this month but 24m so far is peanuts. Seems that Cardiff are trying to do everything on the cheap and if that means going down & benefiting from parachute payments they would be quite content. I hope that I am proved wrong. Why would a club work so hard to get promoted and then throw it away without giving it a go? Our problem is NW worked miracles in getting us promoted on a shoestring but are the club expecting us to survive in the PL on a shoestring budget? Time will tell.


Is that Fulham who spent so much and are currently 4 points below us.


I would suggest that is the Fulham who brought in a dozen players. That’s the problem, made so many signings the manager didn’t know what his best team was. Kept chopping & changing and it cost them on the pitch. Been far more settled under Ranieri & are starting to pick up more points. Wish Cardiff show a bit more ambition without breaking the bank. Let’s see what happens this window.

Re: Quality not Quantity

Mon Jan 07, 2019 1:06 pm

bridgendbluebird30 wrote:
maccydee wrote:
bridgendbluebird30 wrote:
maccydee wrote:
bridgendbluebird30 wrote:Said exactly the same in the summer but unfortunately the owner/board don’t seem keen to bring in quality players. We always seem to be looking in the bargain basement & miss out on good targets because City don’t want to pay the fee or the wages. Speculate to accumulate doesn’t seem to come into it. As in the summer would have preferred to bring in a 15-20m striker & 1 other rather than 4. As with Arter and Camarasa you can’t beat quality. The club is within touching distance of staying up and can easily do it if only the board spent money on a couple of quality players. I have no doubt that had we had a Mitrovic or similar in the summer we would have been well clear of the drop zone by now.


So do we bring in quality (Arter and Camarasa) or not?

Very contradictory post.

Speculate to accumulate is all good in principle but after working hard to clear the debts it would be foolhardy to spend too much.


Firstly, I should have emphasised that both Arter & Camarasa are loan signings and not permanent and secondly I’m not saying to go mad but 1 or 2 quality players particularly the striker could be the difference between getting a 100+ million every year or return to the Championship. I believe the club would be far better buying less players but better players. Quality over quantity. Yes you have to think what happens if we get relegated but I can’t believe that any club wouldn’t want to give it a go. Look at the Championship clubs that have spent huge sums trying to get there. That’s for a reason, they can see the huge rewards that the PL brings. You survive that 1st season and then you can go from strength to strength with the huge sums every year to write off any debt & invest.

Why do they think that Fulham & Wolves have spent so much on promotion? Because the rewards are so great. Let’s see what happens this month but 24m so far is peanuts. Seems that Cardiff are trying to do everything on the cheap and if that means going down & benefiting from parachute payments they would be quite content. I hope that I am proved wrong. Why would a club work so hard to get promoted and then throw it away without giving it a go? Our problem is NW worked miracles in getting us promoted on a shoestring but are the club expecting us to survive in the PL on a shoestring budget? Time will tell.


Is that Fulham who spent so much and are currently 4 points below us.


I would suggest that is the Fulham who brought in a dozen players. That’s the problem, made so many signings the manager didn’t know what his best team was. Kept chopping & changing and it cost them on the pitch. Been far more settled under Ranieri & are starting to pick up more points. Wish Cardiff show a bit more ambition without breaking the bank. Let’s see what happens this window.



they could well recover but its a bit premature to be claiming any great change at this point. yes they have picked up some points 9 under Ranieri but 6 of those points came from home games against the 2 teams currently in the bottom 3 with them.