Wages/Loans

We have been linked with a few and people are putting out names for loans but how realistic are they?

I know if we loan a player then the outlay might not be so high as a signing but I just can't see us breaking the structure and upsetting the apple cart.

To get Clyne I'm sure we would have had to pay a loan fee and cover his wages 70k pw in their entirety? I don't know so am asking the question but would be surprised if Premier League Clubs would loan each other players AND contribute to the wages?

Obviously I'm making this up but the conversation could be going, Vincent/Mehmet we can have the boy Clyne from Liverpool on Loan till the end if the season, £1 million loan fee and £70k a week wages, do you think they are going to sanction deals like that? I don't.

clyne was unrealistic.

clyne is a very good player - he will go to a much better team than us, sadly.

solanke and origi haven't got much minutes and are less established so are more realistic, though both would be in high demand. if we can offer regular first team football then we should be within a shout, as going to the palaces and bournemouths of this world to be a squad player isn't really any use.

high quality wing backs are in desperately short supply, so the idea of him coming on loan to a relegation threatened team was far fetched as i said at the time.

as if to rub salt in the wounds, solanke joins them for £19m having done what exactly, in the last few years? totally insane. liverpool have been picking up huge fees for average players recently.

clyne was unrealistic.

clyne is a very good player - he will go to a much better team than us, sadly.

solanke and origi haven't got much minutes and are less established so are more realistic, though both would be in high demand. if we can offer regular first team football then we should be within a shout, as going to the palaces and bournemouths of this world to be a squad player isn't really any use.

high quality wing backs are in desperately short supply, so the idea of him coming on loan to a relegation threatened team was far fetched as i said at the time.

as if to rub salt in the wounds, solanke joins them for £19m having done what exactly, in the last few years? totally insane. liverpool have been picking up huge fees for average players recently.

I think Warnock wanted him mate, he openly said it, and I believe they worked together at Palace, if it is the wages that's the issue which is my guess then you wonder if Warnock is getting a bit frustrated now.

I think he cares a lot more than he let's on and keeping us up will mean as much to him as all the Promotions as he will have proved himself as a Premier League manager, go down without giving it a proper go would be a shame for all party's.

It seens we have one hand tied behind our backs i think that only newcastle are in a worse position than us regards transfers etc although there wage structure is in keeping with majority of teams in the prem i think the rhetoric from the board and managment of poor little old cardiff have f.ck.d us up as regards attracting anybody you don' t hear this from wolves burnley huddersfield.

Enjoy mid table season by the seaside or come right relegation. I know what is do. Wages would be the same at both clubs so that won't have influenced clynes decision.

100m if we stay up

Loans are a fairly safe way of trying to achieve this without putting your financial future at risk. I'd like to think we competed for Clyne.

If we do stay up we have to invest heavily be interesting to see what we do

clyne was unrealistic.

clyne is a very good player - he will go to a much better team than us, sadly.

solanke and origi haven't got much minutes and are less established so are more realistic, though both would be in high demand. if we can offer regular first team football then we should be within a shout, as going to the palaces and bournemouths of this world to be a squad player isn't really any use.

high quality wing backs are in desperately short supply, so the idea of him coming on loan to a relegation threatened team was far fetched as i said at the time.

as if to rub salt in the wounds, solanke joins them for £19m having done what exactly, in the last few years? totally insane. liverpool have been picking up huge fees for average players recently.

I think Warnock wanted him mate, he openly said it, and I believe they worked together at Palace, if it is the wages that's the issue which is my guess then you wonder if Warnock is getting a bit frustrated now.

I think he cares a lot more than he let's on and keeping us up will mean as much to him as all the Promotions as he will have proved himself as a Premier League manager, go down without giving it a proper go would be a shame for all party's.

i think we've been blown out of the water on quite a few occasions now. ultimately you can pull out of a bad deal, but you either live in the present and recognise the inflation in the game, or you go away empty handed.

i've no doubt warnock wants to stay up as much as anything, but unfortunately we do operate in a different financial league even to our relegation rivals.

clyne as i said was unrealistic given the inevitable competition for him, not because of wages. huddersfield have just signed puncheon. now he's out of favour, but can still offer something at this level. there must be several puncheons (and better), there for the taking, at reasonable wages. of course, signing lesser players is a gamble, but it's the sphere we operate in.

ultimately, all the signings we have made so far have made us stronger. if we get 3 more who clearly improve the squad, then that's progress. unfortunately other teams are giving themselves a better chance with more cash.

Loans are great if they help achieve the goal, however what happens next season when they go back to their parent clubs and we’re back in the same boat of no players and no cash for transfers/wages.... surely part of building a squad is taking a certain gamble on buying players?

I know it hasn’t worked for Fulham, think they went for the wrong players as well as a manager who didn’t know how to defend, we fell foul of it last time around and we have learned from that costly mistake, just now think they are being too careful and too tight with the purse strings

A lot of sense spoken in this post. Which is refreshing at times on this board. Personally I don't don't think wages were the issue with Clyne. He's choses the club with a better chance of shining. Eddie Howe is a like a young Warnock. He'll go on to bigger and better things. Maybe manage England one day. But as a club, Bournemouth playing this standard in a 20k stadium isn't going to last long term

A lot of sense spoken in this post. Which is refreshing at times on this board. Personally I don't don't think wages were the issue with Clyne. He's choses the club with a better chance of shining. Eddie Howe is a like a young Warnock. He'll go on to bigger and better things. Maybe manage England one day. But as a club, Bournemouth playing this standard in a 20k stadium isn't going to last long term

11k!

Enjoy mid table season by the seaside or come right relegation. I know what is do. Wages would be the same at both clubs so that won't have influenced clynes decision.

My point is though that wages might have meant he didn't even have a devision to make.

He's on 70k a week at Liverpool.

Bournemouth might have offered to cover all that, we might have offered to cover half.

Liverpool say if you want him you cover the wages, Bournemouth agree, we can't, end of sports.

And before anyone says it, yes it's all guesswork, truth is none of us truly know the reasons.