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Thu Dec 27, 2018 2:27 pm
I thought hard before putting this out, as this is currently unconfirmed but rumours this morning that there had been a spat between Kenneth Zohore and Callum Paterson after the Man Utd game...
Initially, I was a little hesitant to give it any credence but the source is usually reliable and referred to the game itself where there were moments late on when the two appeared to be unhappy with each other
I sincerely hope this is not the case but it could explain both being left out of the match day squad versus Crystal's Palace without real explanation?
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Thu Dec 27, 2018 2:31 pm
i heard similar mate, it was the gossip on the supporters coaches going to Palace, if true Warnock will sort it
Thu Dec 27, 2018 2:34 pm
grange_end1927 wrote:i heard similar mate, it was the gossip on the supporters coaches going to Palace, if true Warnock will sort it

Thanks, Paul. I've just had similar from someone else who heard the same from another source and that doesn't make it sound too good
Thu Dec 27, 2018 2:35 pm
I would personally be annoyed if we didn't play either of our strikers in a game because they had a fall out. Doesn't really make sense.
Thu Dec 27, 2018 2:37 pm
Not posted before, it was doing the rounds at Palace, aint good
Thu Dec 27, 2018 2:42 pm
Probably because Paterson wanted him to square it late in the second half?
Poor from Warnock if this why the pair of them were both dropped from the whole squad.
Thu Dec 27, 2018 2:43 pm
what was shown on pitch during Man U game?
I often saw Paterson moaning at Ken last season so no big deal there.
Possibly they are two of the niggles NW was on about. Ken has quad problems doesn’t he?
Thu Dec 27, 2018 2:43 pm
Paterson would drop him
Thu Dec 27, 2018 2:45 pm
This makes sense if it is true. Earlier in the season I noticed in a number of games Paterson having a go at Zohore and at times it looked pretty heated.
I'm sure Zohore is pretty frustrating to play with but constant berating of him will not get the best out of him and should be left to the manager.
Ironically, I thought Zohore looked lively and caused Man Utd problems when he came on so I'm not sure Paterson would have much justifiable complaint about that performance !!
Hopefully nothing in this although Warnock has made a few comments about Zohore having to get his head straight so may be there have been underlying issues ?
Thu Dec 27, 2018 2:47 pm
Saw pattetson jestering to zohore in the man u game zohore was running back after a man u player but gave up when he went over the half way line i then saw patters showing his disapproval
Thu Dec 27, 2018 2:51 pm
piledriver64 wrote:This makes sense if it is true. Earlier in the season I noticed in a number of games Paterson having a go at Zohore and at times it looked pretty heated.
I'm sure Zohore is pretty frustrating to play with but constant berating of him will not get the best out of him and should be left to the manager.
Ironically, I thought Zohore looked lively and caused Man Utd problems when he came on so I'm not sure Paterson would have much justifiable complaint about that performance !!
Hopefully nothing in this although Warnock has made a few comments about Zohore having to get his head straight so may be there have been underlying issues ?
Decent post
To be fair, it was only a question whether the pair had been 'dropped' but the rumours seem to be out there of some kind of altercation. Having watched the game back now, I can see that the pair had some strong words (mainly from Paterson) but whether that was a pre-cursor, I'm not sure...
Hence the question, as there has been no real explanation for the pair not even being on the bench and usually the club would say if it was through an injury/knock
As said elsewhere, hopefully this is not the case and we all move on
Thu Dec 27, 2018 2:53 pm
I suspected something like this from a comment from Sir Neil a few days back
He’s done exactly the right thing and this kind of thing needs nipping in the bud
Probably time for Ken to go
Thu Dec 27, 2018 2:55 pm
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:what was shown on pitch during Man U game?
I often saw Paterson moaning at Ken last season so no big deal there.
Possibly they are two of the niggles NW was on about. Ken has quad problems doesn’t he?
Andrew, showing on TV was some verbal between the two and you are right that it has happened before
The manager didn't really elaborate on the players with "niggles" and it's odd that he didn't say about Paterson in particular; a recent mainstay of the team
As stated, this is only a rumour doing the rounds but it is a strong one, so worth the question?
Thu Dec 27, 2018 2:56 pm
Sven, reason that they did not play is that Zahore has a thigh injury that could put him out for a long time and Paterson tweaked his knee joint, Paterson should be fit for Saturday but not Zahore. Patters is always having a go at Zahore, because he does not pass to Patters when he is in a better position than Zahore, nothing new in this.
Thu Dec 27, 2018 2:56 pm
SirJimmySchoular wrote:I suspected something like this from a comment from Sir Neil a few days back
He’s done exactly the right thing and this kind of thing needs nipping in the bud
Probably time for Ken to go
Didn’t he say something like they’ve had some problems that they could do without and a few boggled.
Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:05 pm
SirJimmySchoular wrote:I suspected something like this from a comment from Sir Neil a few days back
He’s done exactly the right thing and this kind of thing needs nipping in the bud
Probably time for Ken to go
Hopefully nothing that can't be sorted.
Although I have to say, if we had both Zohore at the top of his game and Paterson at the top of his, I'd keep Zohore !! Trouble is Zohore hasn't been at the top of his game for a year now.
Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:11 pm
Sven wrote:bluebirdoct1962 wrote:what was shown on pitch during Man U game?
I often saw Paterson moaning at Ken last season so no big deal there.
Possibly they are two of the niggles NW was on about. Ken has quad problems doesn’t he?
Andrew, showing on TV was some verbal between the two and you are right that it has happened before
The manager didn't really elaborate on the players with "niggles" and it's odd that he didn't say about Paterson in particular; a recent mainstay of the team
As stated, this is only a rumour doing the rounds but it is a strong one, so worth the question?

Hopefully NW will sort whatever the problem is mate.
Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:11 pm
Thanks, Annis. The source was credible but hopefully it has been nipped in the bud by the boss!
Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:15 pm
Igovernor wrote:Sven, reason that they did not play is that Zahore has a thigh injury that could put him out for a long time and Paterson tweaked his knee joint, Paterson should be fit for Saturday but not Zahore. Patters is always having a go at Zahore, because he does not pass to Patters when he is in a better position than Zahore, nothing new in this.
Thanks and that was said (and reported) elsewhere on here when the team was announced
It certainly appears 'something' has happened and I'd far prefer your reasoning to the alternative
I'm sure the manager will have dealt with this (and any other) issues between a competitive and committed squad of players and hopefully this is a sign of their wanting to do well for the club and its supporters!
Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:23 pm
Not doing a good job at it ATM is he.
Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:28 pm
In football as in life , people sometimes don't like who they work with.
Teddy Sheringham and Andy Cole hated each other,but this didn't stop them giving 100% to the team.
Neil Warnock as been in the game over 50 years.
He's seen it before and dealt with it without making it public.
I'm quite sure he will do the same here.
We won't hear nothing from him or any of the players,about this.
But unfortunately someone as leaked this (if true) which won't make Warnock very happy , I would hate to be in his shoes when he finds out who it was.
Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:41 pm
And? Just lost 5-1. If the players didn't have a go at Each other you'd be worried.
Thu Dec 27, 2018 4:00 pm
Sven wrote:I thought hard before putting this out, as this is currently unconfirmed but rumours this morning that there had been a spat between Kenneth Zohore and Callum Paterson after the Man Utd game...
Initially, I was a little hesitant to give it any credence but the source is usually reliable and referred to the game itself where there were moments late on when the two appeared to be unhappy with each other
I sincerely hope this is not the case but it could explain both being left out of the match day squad versus Crystal's Palace without real explanation?


oh some people love gossip
Thu Dec 27, 2018 4:11 pm
Sven wrote:I thought hard before putting this out, as this is currently unconfirmed but rumours this morning that there had been a spat between Kenneth Zohore and Callum Paterson after the Man Utd game...
Initially, I was a little hesitant to give it any credence but the source is usually reliable and referred to the game itself where there were moments late on when the two appeared to be unhappy with each other
I sincerely hope this is not the case but it could explain both being left out of the match day squad versus Crystal's Palace without real explanation?

I seen patterson jogging after the mam utd game down by the film studios near Llanharan so thought it was strange that he was injured
Thu Dec 27, 2018 4:35 pm
Perhaps they just dont get on, in the man city cup game last season he gestured to zohore to chase down and zohore just shrugged his shoulders and stood off the player.
On saturday when zohore shot from an acute angle and patts followed through into the net , he then went nuts kicking at the net and pulling it, thought it was just frustration but it now seems more than this.
They do need to sort it as both players are needed when on form.
Thu Dec 27, 2018 4:58 pm
Undoubtedly there was word's between them happens all the time In football, but cannot believe NW is lying when says Ken is out for weeks so
So not being in squad got nothing to do with the spat, as for Patterson who knows?
Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:22 pm
Zohore wasn’t in a great position to shoot, and Paterson wasn’t in a particularly great position to receive the ball.
Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:23 pm
Patterson is always moaning at someone. Doubt much in it once the games done with.
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