Sun Dec 23, 2018 10:54 am
Sun Dec 23, 2018 3:55 pm
Sun Dec 23, 2018 5:10 pm
pembroke allan wrote:Problem is other teams around us may take points off top 7 team and that could make all the difference? Wolves have lost only twice to top 7 teams so take away the points they've gained against such teams and they would be lot lower down than present. So it is important same as goal difference ffs something like 20 goals conceded against top team's just half that and be worth extra point or 2 to us, So yes these games are important
Sun Dec 23, 2018 5:23 pm
maccydee wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Problem is other teams around us may take points off top 7 team and that could make all the difference? Wolves have lost only twice to top 7 teams so take away the points they've gained against such teams and they would be lot lower down than present. So it is important same as goal difference ffs something like 20 goals conceded against top team's just half that and be worth extra point or 2 to us, So yes these games are important
We aren’t in competition with Wolves
Sun Dec 23, 2018 5:28 pm
pembroke allan wrote:maccydee wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Problem is other teams around us may take points off top 7 team and that could make all the difference? Wolves have lost only twice to top 7 teams so take away the points they've gained against such teams and they would be lot lower down than present. So it is important same as goal difference ffs something like 20 goals conceded against top team's just half that and be worth extra point or 2 to us, So yes these games are important
We aren’t in competition with Wolves
No but point is they have taken points off top 7 clubs so are in healthier position than would be if lost them all like us palace certainly could be our competition and they managed to win against man c . Anyway points taken from top team's could be matter of staying up or going down at end day or are we going to win all our away games against our competition to stay up? Because that's what it could need to do so.
Sun Dec 23, 2018 5:58 pm
maccydee wrote:pembroke allan wrote:maccydee wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Problem is other teams around us may take points off top 7 team and that could make all the difference? Wolves have lost only twice to top 7 teams so take away the points they've gained against such teams and they would be lot lower down than present. So it is important same as goal difference ffs something like 20 goals conceded against top team's just half that and be worth extra point or 2 to us, So yes these games are important
We aren’t in competition with Wolves
No but point is they have taken points off top 7 clubs so are in healthier position than would be if lost them all like us palace certainly could be our competition and they managed to win against man c . Anyway points taken from top team's could be matter of staying up or going down at end day or are we going to win all our away games against our competition to stay up? Because that's what it could need to do so.
Palace are a lot better than us in reality when Zaha plays.
Our competition is Fulham, Huddersfield and Burnley I think. Which is why that loss to Burnley hurts so much.
Palace and Southampton always had a bit of quality as established Prem clubs. Arguably Burnley are established. Newcastle and Brighton could still get dragged in but probably got too much.
Sun Dec 23, 2018 6:35 pm
pembroke allan wrote:maccydee wrote:pembroke allan wrote:maccydee wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Problem is other teams around us may take points off top 7 team and that could make all the difference? Wolves have lost only twice to top 7 teams so take away the points they've gained against such teams and they would be lot lower down than present. So it is important same as goal difference ffs something like 20 goals conceded against top team's just half that and be worth extra point or 2 to us, So yes these games are important
We aren’t in competition with Wolves
No but point is they have taken points off top 7 clubs so are in healthier position than would be if lost them all like us palace certainly could be our competition and they managed to win against man c . Anyway points taken from top team's could be matter of staying up or going down at end day or are we going to win all our away games against our competition to stay up? Because that's what it could need to do so.
Palace are a lot better than us in reality when Zaha plays.
Our competition is Fulham, Huddersfield and Burnley I think. Which is why that loss to Burnley hurts so much.
Palace and Southampton always had a bit of quality as established Prem clubs. Arguably Burnley are established. Newcastle and Brighton could still get dragged in but probably got too much.
That's the problem you're illiminating top 7 plus another 4 that's 11 teams not in relegation fight only leaves 9 counting us if won all games against rivals get to about 44pnts as that wont happen we need to get points off top 10 team's can you see us doing that? We need realistically 36pnts cannot see us getting that many
Sun Dec 23, 2018 9:16 pm
maccydee wrote:pembroke allan wrote:maccydee wrote:pembroke allan wrote:maccydee wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Problem is other teams around us may take points off top 7 team and that could make all the difference? Wolves have lost only twice to top 7 teams so take away the points they've gained against such teams and they would be lot lower down than present. So it is important same as goal difference ffs something like 20 goals conceded against top team's just half that and be worth extra point or 2 to us, So yes these games are important
We aren’t in competition with Wolves
No but point is they have taken points off top 7 clubs so are in healthier position than would be if lost them all like us palace certainly could be our competition and they managed to win against man c . Anyway points taken from top team's could be matter of staying up or going down at end day or are we going to win all our away games against our competition to stay up? Because that's what it could need to do so.
Palace are a lot better than us in reality when Zaha plays.
Our competition is Fulham, Huddersfield and Burnley I think. Which is why that loss to Burnley hurts so much.
Palace and Southampton always had a bit of quality as established Prem clubs. Arguably Burnley are established. Newcastle and Brighton could still get dragged in but probably got too much.
That's the problem you're illiminating top 7 plus another 4 that's 11 teams not in relegation fight only leaves 9 counting us if won all games against rivals get to about 44pnts as that wont happen we need to get points off top 10 team's can you see us doing that? We need realistically 36pnts cannot see us getting that many
No I think that the bottom four are so bad that all of us are unlikely to get points v the top 6.
The rest can easily take points off each other as proven with Palace and Southampton lately.
I will predict we will not get a point vs any of the following;
Liverpool
Man City
Spurs
Chelsea
Arsenal
Man Utd
Arguably the weakest of those 6 is Arsenal who we lost to despite playing well but they were playing well within themselves.
My only grace is that Fulham, Huddersfield and Burnley will pick up barely anything either.