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SKY SPORTS: CARDIFF CITY DEAL IN DOUBT / DUE TO BUDGET

Sun Dec 23, 2018 10:54 am

Cardiff deal for Nantes striker Emiliano Sala in doubt


Sky Sports

23/12/18


Cardiff City are in talks with Nantes over a deal for striker Emiliano Sala but boss Neil Warnock has cast doubt over a potential agreement.


The Bluebirds manager has revealed that an initial fee was agreed with the French club but they have come back and added more.

Warnock said: "It's very difficult. I thought we agreed a fee with a club but then they came back with another couple of million, we only have a small budget as it is and a couple more million would go over our budget."


"If he's coming over, it won't be for over £15m. He was one of the players (we are looking at). I expect to bring two or three but it may not be our first choices. I'm not going to have a gun put to my head."

Warnock, whose Cardiff side were thrashed 5-1 at home by Ole Gunnar Solskjaer's Manchester United on Saturday, has stressed the need for his side to improve in the January transfer market if they hope to stay up.


But chairman Mehmet Dalman has caused concern over their plans by admitting the striker pursuit is "not going well".


Dalman said "Every time we go for somebody, things change. The January window is a difficult window to do business in,"


"We're very focused on the January window. In fact we're working extremely hard, we're looking to bring in three or four players. We're halfway through our target list and we'll continue to work hard at it.


"We have a very good approach to the transfer targets we have. We all have a say in what we should be doing. At the end of the day, the manager really dictates who his targets are."
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Re: SKY SPORTS: CARDIFF CITY DEAL IN DOUBT / DUE TO BUDGET

Sun Dec 23, 2018 11:12 am

We should not be held to ransom over vastly overpriced players easy to overpay for dodgy players in January. Jarrad Bowen was superb for Hull against the Jacks last night excellent player who should be within our budget and will be a huge asset if we are in the championship next season.

Re: SKY SPORTS: CARDIFF CITY DEAL IN DOUBT / DUE TO BUDGET

Sun Dec 23, 2018 11:25 am

Crayfish wrote:We should not be held to ransom over vastly overpriced players easy to overpay for dodgy players in January. Jarrad Bowen was superb for Hull against the Jacks last night excellent player who should be within our budget and will be a huge asset if we are in the championship next season.


Agree largely but City also have to weigh up the 'value' that brining the right personnel into the club would have, if we were to survive to play in the Premier League again next season :thumbright:

My own thought is that maybe City need to do a Madine-Style deal, where the selling club receive an additional amount, if Premier League survival is achieved

What cannot happen (IMHO) is for City to come out of the transfer window with little or no addition/improvement to assist the current squad. That, for the purposes of survival, would be a serious blow! :(

Re: SKY SPORTS: CARDIFF CITY DEAL IN DOUBT / DUE TO BUDGET

Sun Dec 23, 2018 11:27 am

Sven wrote:What cannot happen (IMHO) is for City to come out of the transfer window with little or no addition/improvement to assist the current squad. That, for the purposes of survival, would be a serious blow! :(



Spot on Chris, absolutely spot on :thumbright: :bluebird:

Re: SKY SPORTS: CARDIFF CITY DEAL IN DOUBT / DUE TO BUDGET

Sun Dec 23, 2018 12:14 pm

We are in the Premier league, the club must do everything we can to stay there this season

Re: SKY SPORTS: CARDIFF CITY DEAL IN DOUBT / DUE TO BUDGET

Sun Dec 23, 2018 1:31 pm

Good.. we. Annoy be held to ransom .

Re: SKY SPORTS: CARDIFF CITY DEAL IN DOUBT / DUE TO BUDGET

Sun Dec 23, 2018 1:55 pm

pengamblue wrote:We are in the Premier league, the club must do everything we can to stay there this season


Absolutely right, the club needs to get real.

Re: SKY SPORTS: CARDIFF CITY DEAL IN DOUBT / DUE TO BUDGET

Sun Dec 23, 2018 2:15 pm

Should of bloody got a striker in at the start of the season then not be Messing about now when its a nightmare in January.
If we pay 5 mill more than we agreed then sorry so be it we have to try and stay up .It's so hard getting out of the championship no guarantee.
I don't expect to be silly with money BUT We need new players and three of them .
It's Christmas were out the bottom three come on dig a bit deeper city you want to stay up or not

Re: SKY SPORTS: CARDIFF CITY DEAL IN DOUBT / DUE TO BUDGET

Sun Dec 23, 2018 2:50 pm

brickyblue wrote:Should of bloody got a striker in at the start of the season then not be Messing about now when its a nightmare in January.
If we pay 5 mill more than we agreed then sorry so be it we have to try and stay up .It's so hard getting out of the championship no guarantee.
I don't expect to be silly with money BUT We need new players and three of them .
It's Christmas were out the bottom three come on dig a bit deeper city you want to stay up or not

This^

Re: SKY SPORTS: CARDIFF CITY DEAL IN DOUBT / DUE TO BUDGET

Sun Dec 23, 2018 2:52 pm

I watched sala against psg yesterday and to be fair he looks good. His workrate is excellent.

Re: SKY SPORTS: CARDIFF CITY DEAL IN DOUBT / DUE TO BUDGET

Sun Dec 23, 2018 4:15 pm

Dahboy wrote:I watched sala against psg yesterday and to be fair he looks good. His workrate is excellent.




It's not budget problem it's fact they've asked for more where do you say no 10m 20m Maybe good but not at any price :thumbup:

Re: SKY SPORTS: CARDIFF CITY DEAL IN DOUBT / DUE TO BUDGET

Sun Dec 23, 2018 4:26 pm

Can’t see it by paying that fee the Everton one is more realistic and the young Sunderland kid.

Re: SKY SPORTS: CARDIFF CITY DEAL IN DOUBT / DUE TO BUDGET

Sun Dec 23, 2018 5:12 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
Dahboy wrote:I watched sala against psg yesterday and to be fair he looks good. His workrate is excellent.




It's not budget problem it's fact they've asked for more where do you say no 10m 20m Maybe good but not at any price :thumbup:


You’re right about the ‘not at any price’ but wrong about the budget. There is a budget problem.

Re: SKY SPORTS: CARDIFF CITY DEAL IN DOUBT / DUE TO BUDGET

Sun Dec 23, 2018 5:25 pm

Sven wrote:
Crayfish wrote:We should not be held to ransom over vastly overpriced players easy to overpay for dodgy players in January. Jarrad Bowen was superb for Hull against the Jacks last night excellent player who should be within our budget and will be a huge asset if we are in the championship next season.


Agree largely but City also have to weigh up the 'value' that brining the right personnel into the club would have, if we were to survive to play in the Premier League again next season :thumbright:

My own thought is that maybe City need to do a Madine-Style deal, where the selling club receive an additional amount, if Premier League survival is achieved

What cannot happen (IMHO) is for City to come out of the transfer window with little or no addition/improvement to assist the current squad. That, for the purposes of survival, would be a serious blow! :(



I agree we absolutely need to improve the squad and part of that process has to be moving players who are currently in our 25 man squad out of the club. If as NW has said he is looking at a striker, midfielder and defender then Madine, Ward, Damour, Richards and Connolly fit into the moving on category.

We need to think back to our last season in the PL when OGS added more players, and let's face it some were signings for signings sake, to an already fat squad which left us with loads of players outside the 25 man squad and unable to play. Not being able to play still left the club with a heavy wages bill every month and we cannot have that again.

Tomlin has moved on but we are still paying a big chunk of his wages, Pilkington needs to be moved on released or replace unused players like Damour in our squad, O'Keefe is another who needs to be moved on or released.

But the biggest need we have, in my opinion, is to get a striker who can fit into the starting 11 right now, not the matchday 18 but straight into the squad. Surely £15-20m won't break the bank not when you look at what we have spent in the summer against what we will get from being in the PL this season.

:bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:

Re: SKY SPORTS: CARDIFF CITY DEAL IN DOUBT / DUE TO BUDGET

Sun Dec 23, 2018 5:29 pm

castleblue wrote:
Sven wrote:
Crayfish wrote:We should not be held to ransom over vastly overpriced players easy to overpay for dodgy players in January. Jarrad Bowen was superb for Hull against the Jacks last night excellent player who should be within our budget and will be a huge asset if we are in the championship next season.


Agree largely but City also have to weigh up the 'value' that brining the right personnel into the club would have, if we were to survive to play in the Premier League again next season :thumbright:

My own thought is that maybe City need to do a Madine-Style deal, where the selling club receive an additional amount, if Premier League survival is achieved

What cannot happen (IMHO) is for City to come out of the transfer window with little or no addition/improvement to assist the current squad. That, for the purposes of survival, would be a serious blow! :(



I agree we absolutely need to improve the squad and part of that process has to be moving players who are currently in our 25 man squad out of the club. If as NW has said he is looking at a striker, midfielder and defender then Madine, Ward, Damour, Richards and Connolly fit into the moving on category.

We need to think back to our last season in the PL when OGS added more players, and let's face it some were signings for signings sake, to an already fat squad which left us with loads of players outside the 25 man squad and unable to play. Not being able to play still left the club with a heavy wages bill every month and we cannot have that again.

Tomlin has moved on but we are still paying a big chunk of his wages, Pilkington needs to be moved on released or replace unused players like Damour in our squad, O'Keefe is another who needs to be moved on or released.

But the biggest need we have, in my opinion, is to get a striker who can fit into the starting 11 right now, not the matchday 18 but straight into the squad. Surely £15-20m won't break the bank not when you look at what we have spent in the summer against what we will get from being in the PL this season.

:bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:


Well said, Gary :clap:

I said on another thread that there should be space made in the 25-man squad, as there are several who are just making up the numbers with little or no chance of a game...

If Neil Warnock genuinely believes that Sala (or anyone else) is the man to make the difference, the club need to back him as early into the window as possible :thumbright:

Re: SKY SPORTS: CARDIFF CITY DEAL IN DOUBT / DUE TO BUDGET

Sun Dec 23, 2018 5:30 pm

castleblue wrote:
Sven wrote:
Crayfish wrote:We should not be held to ransom over vastly overpriced players easy to overpay for dodgy players in January. Jarrad Bowen was superb for Hull against the Jacks last night excellent player who should be within our budget and will be a huge asset if we are in the championship next season.


Agree largely but City also have to weigh up the 'value' that brining the right personnel into the club would have, if we were to survive to play in the Premier League again next season :thumbright:

My own thought is that maybe City need to do a Madine-Style deal, where the selling club receive an additional amount, if Premier League survival is achieved

What cannot happen (IMHO) is for City to come out of the transfer window with little or no addition/improvement to assist the current squad. That, for the purposes of survival, would be a serious blow! :(



I agree we absolutely need to improve the squad and part of that process has to be moving players who are currently in our 25 man squad out of the club. If as NW has said he is looking at a striker, midfielder and defender then Madine, Ward, Damour, Richards and Connolly fit into the moving on category.

We need to think back to our last season in the PL when OGS added more players, and let's face it some were signings for signings sake, to an already fat squad which left us with loads of players outside the 25 man squad and unable to play. Not being able to play still left the club with a heavy wages bill every month and we cannot have that again.

Tomlin has moved on but we are still paying a big chunk of his wages, Pilkington needs to be moved on released or replace unused players like Damour in our squad, O'Keefe is another who needs to be moved on or released.

But the biggest need we have, in my opinion, is to get a striker who can fit into the starting 11 right now, not the matchday 18 but straight into the squad. Surely £15-20m won't break the bank not when you look at what we have spent in the summer against what we will get from being in the PL this season.

:bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:



If we only spent 20m on striker it will be worth it in long term because surely even if get relegated he will be a force in championship which wont break bank either in wages :old:

Re: SKY SPORTS: CARDIFF CITY DEAL IN DOUBT / DUE TO BUDGET

Sun Dec 23, 2018 5:31 pm

castleblue wrote:
Sven wrote:
Crayfish wrote:We should not be held to ransom over vastly overpriced players easy to overpay for dodgy players in January. Jarrad Bowen was superb for Hull against the Jacks last night excellent player who should be within our budget and will be a huge asset if we are in the championship next season.


Agree largely but City also have to weigh up the 'value' that brining the right personnel into the club would have, if we were to survive to play in the Premier League again next season :thumbright:

My own thought is that maybe City need to do a Madine-Style deal, where the selling club receive an additional amount, if Premier League survival is achieved

What cannot happen (IMHO) is for City to come out of the transfer window with little or no addition/improvement to assist the current squad. That, for the purposes of survival, would be a serious blow! :(



I agree we absolutely need to improve the squad and part of that process has to be moving players who are currently in our 25 man squad out of the club. If as NW has said he is looking at a striker, midfielder and defender then Madine, Ward, Damour, Richards and Connolly fit into the moving on category.

We need to think back to our last season in the PL when OGS added more players, and let's face it some were signings for signings sake, to an already fat squad which left us with loads of players outside the 25 man squad and unable to play. Not being able to play still left the club with a heavy wages bill every month and we cannot have that again.

Tomlin has moved on but we are still paying a big chunk of his wages, Pilkington needs to be moved on released or replace unused players like Damour in our squad, O'Keefe is another who needs to be moved on or released.

But the biggest need we have, in my opinion, is to get a striker who can fit into the starting 11 right now, not the matchday 18 but straight into the squad. Surely £15-20m won't break the bank not when you look at what we have spent in the summer against what we will get from being in the PL this season.

:bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:



If we only spent 20m on striker it will be worth it in long term because surely even if get relegated he will be a force in championship which wont break bank either in wages :old:

Re: SKY SPORTS: CARDIFF CITY DEAL IN DOUBT / DUE TO BUDGET

Sun Dec 23, 2018 5:43 pm

yes we need a striker but we need a defender as I don't think our center halfs or full backs are prem leavel

Re: SKY SPORTS: CARDIFF CITY DEAL IN DOUBT / DUE TO BUDGET

Sun Dec 23, 2018 6:45 pm

makes you wonder why we didn't push to get a striker in the summer. after all, it's no secret that it's more difficult to do business in january, especially if you are desperate.

never heard of sala, so i don't really care if we get him or not, but it's clear we need to to get a striker in, as it was last summer.

Re: SKY SPORTS: CARDIFF CITY DEAL IN DOUBT / DUE TO BUDGET

Mon Dec 24, 2018 2:21 am

This was the problem on signing players in the summer because of this reason ,if theirs only a couple of million in it, then sigh him. Show a statement of intent to the club and supporters. If we diver again, then no one will want to come to the club. Also Cardiff City.have to review it’s wage structure, the lowest in the Premiership, their is no incentive for quality players to come to Cardiff. Sounds as if we won’t sign anyone who is quality again in this Transfer window, please don’t let it be lost opportunities again.

Re: SKY SPORTS: CARDIFF CITY DEAL IN DOUBT / DUE TO BUDGET

Mon Dec 24, 2018 10:21 am

Clubfortyfourer wrote:This was the problem on signing players in the summer because of this reason ,if theirs only a couple of million in it, then sigh him. Show a statement of intent to the club and supporters. If we diver again, then no one will want to come to the club. Also Cardiff City.have to review it’s wage structure, the lowest in the Premiership, their is no incentive for quality players to come to Cardiff. Sounds as if we won’t sign anyone who is quality again in this Transfer window, please don’t let it be lost opportunities again.


Brace yourself; it will be! I'm afraid the club is pitching itself at high end Championship status. The Premier is too expensive for its ambitions.

Re: SKY SPORTS: CARDIFF CITY DEAL IN DOUBT / DUE TO BUDGET

Mon Dec 24, 2018 3:24 pm

The facts are that Tan is spending money,we were 14th highest net spenders in the summer and Warnock said he had another 10m available that would put us in the top 10 spenders but he decided not to spend it! We were also joint 5th highest net spenders in Championship,see transfermarkt when we gained promotion.It’s a myth that Tan isn’t spending enough money, it’s getting Warnock to spent it wisely is the problem and also the lack of any income from the sale of players.