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BREAKING NEIL WARNOCK: KENNETH ZOHORE LIKE A NEW STRIKER

Sat Dec 22, 2018 10:05 pm

NEIL WARNOCK:



New players in January?

"You can only do what you can do, getting names over the line"

"It was nice to see the new signing Ken Zohore play today. He looks more like himself than previous weeks. I’m hoping Zohore helps the search for a striker in January as we won't then have to look for a new one, he needs to train like he has done in the next three weeks and give me something to think about."







Here’s the best soundbites from Neil Warnock. :bluebird:



NEIL WARNOCK:


“You can’t tell me they (Manchester United) were amazing, they’ll get more stern tests than us.”

“At any level, that first goal was terrible. It was an iffy free kick, probably a Sunday League goal.”

“I’m sure Palace and Leicester will be rubbing their hands with glee at playing Cardiff City, but you never know.”

“It was nice to see the new signing Ken Zohore play today. He looks more like himself than previous weeks.”

“If you’d told me we’d be out of the bottom 3 at Christmas, I’d have snapped your hand off.”
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Re: BREAKING: NEIL WARNOCK SPEAKS OUT ABOUT TODAYS HAMMERING

Sat Dec 22, 2018 10:07 pm

NEIL WARNOCK:

"Even at 2-1, I thought we had a chance. If we could get another goal before half-time. It’s not a penalty, dear me. But you can’t blame the referee, not when it was 5-1!"

"We need to stop conceding elementary goals. At any level, that first goal was terrible. It knocked us down. We were bound to get knocked down. We were playing against a top side with a new manager and all that comes with that. I was disappointed with the goals today, not the effort."
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Re: BREAKING: NEIL WARNOCK SPEAKS OUT ABOUT TODAYS HAMMERING

Sat Dec 22, 2018 10:07 pm

NEIL WARNOCK:

Gunnar and Arter need rests?

"You can’t blame Aron Gunnarsson, you can’t blame anybody. I took Arter off because I wanted to give Ken Zohore 30 minutes."
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Re: BREAKING: NEIL WARNOCK SPEAKS OUT ABOUT TODAYS HAMMERING

Sat Dec 22, 2018 10:10 pm

NEIL WARNOCK:



New players in January?

"You can only do what you can do, getting names over the line"

"It was nice to see the new signing Ken Zohore play today. He looks more like himself than previous weeks. I’m hoping Zohore helps the search for a striker in January as we won't then have to look for a new one, he needs to train like he has done in the next three weeks and give me something to think about."





Did you watch United videos?

Not, we didn’t watch anything as we knew that’s not how they were going to play.
You can’t tell me they were amazing, they’ll get more stern tests than us.





Difficult day?

Absolutely, the circumstances weren’t right, but we’ve had that before. But you can’t blame that. I thought we started the game quite well, but it was an iffy free kick, probably a Sunday League goal.
The penalty killed us, it wasn’t a penalty though. He put his foot into the mix, but it’s not a penalty in a million years. But I thought the ref did well today.
Having said all that - and the lads are flat - but if you’d told me we’d be out of the bottom 3 at Christmas, I’d have snapped your hand off.”
I’m sure Palace and Leicester will be rubbing their hands with glee at playing Cardiff City, but you never know.
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Re: BREAKING: NEIL WARNOCK SPEAKS OUT ABOUT TODAYS HAMMERING

Sat Dec 22, 2018 10:14 pm

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Re: BREAKING: NEIL WARNOCK SPEAKS OUT ABOUT TODAYS HAMMERING

Sat Dec 22, 2018 10:22 pm

The back four are making mistake after mistake but still he persists with playing Morison, Bamba and Bruno in a back four.

The problem is that Warnock has no real alternatives so although you could make a case for dropping all three of them there is nobody to replace them.

For me Bruno is the best centre half at the club and the worst full back at the club.

Morison and Sol have had some absolute shockers this season and today was no exception. It's not their fault but they are not good enough. They get little or no protection from our midfield and they cannot cope with talented players running at them with pace and skill.

If we are genuinely going to attempt to stay in the league, realistically speaking we are looking at two full backs, a centre half, a midfield holding player and at least one and preferably two strikers.

As we know that isn't going to happen so we just need to get on with it.

Re: BREAKING: NEIL WARNOCK SPEAKS OUT ABOUT TODAYS HAMMERING

Sat Dec 22, 2018 10:29 pm

Neil Warnock makes some decent points here...

I thought Kenneth Zohore did okay with his 20 minute cameo appearance and hopefully we'll see him making a decent addition to the squad from here on in (I still think we need to sign another striker too, though)

Manchester United played a more 'open' game than they played under Jose Mourinho and that (freedom) apart, I don't think OGS can take too much credit for a bunch a players who should be embarrassed at the clarity with which they 'upped' their individual games today

Surely they (supposed professionals) short-changed their previous manager? :?

Paul Pogba looked nothing like a 'world class' player but did contribute to the team and (to be fair to him) took some banter from the Ninian Stand crowd well; even interacting at one point with some funny looks and a thumbs up! :laughing6:

Disappointed today but didn't expect too much after the managerial change but I take it as a backhanded compliment that even the 'big' teams to sack their managers when they have to face Neil Warnock and his mighty Bluebirds

Apparently, Leicester were considering sacking Claude Puel after a bit of a player revolt this last few days...

Wouldn't that be just our luck but hopefully Chelski kept him in role until the New Year at least! :thumbright: :ayatollah:

Re: BREAKING: NEIL WARNOCK SPEAKS OUT ABOUT TODAYS HAMMERING

Sat Dec 22, 2018 11:36 pm

He bangs on about players looking good like Ken but then he doesn't play them just uses them for ten mins or so no wonder their form deteriorates! Yes give Ken a chance now Murphy cries out for someone in the middle but Patterson is not best option, NW needs to overhaul his strategy now not last month of season or we will sink withput trace :old:

Re: BREAKING: NEIL WARNOCK SPEAKS OUT ABOUT TODAYS HAMMERING

Sat Dec 22, 2018 11:46 pm

pembroke allan wrote:He bangs on about players looking good like Ken but then he doesn't play them just uses them for ten mins or so no wonder their form deteriorates! Yes give Ken a chance now Murphy cries out for someone in the middle but Patterson is not best option, NW needs to overhaul his strategy now not last month of season or we will sink withput trace :old:


Patterson closes down and can score so see why he was used but when Zohore came on, the difference a real forward can make is huge.
The squad is frustrating as its clear what needed improving over the summer. I still think Reid and Zohore could work. Warnocks reaction to anything is to go more defensive.

Re: BREAKING: NEIL WARNOCK SPEAKS OUT ABOUT TODAYS HAMMERING

Sun Dec 23, 2018 12:07 am

2blue2handle wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:He bangs on about players looking good like Ken but then he doesn't play them just uses them for ten mins or so no wonder their form deteriorates! Yes give Ken a chance now Murphy cries out for someone in the middle but Patterson is not best option, NW needs to overhaul his strategy now not last month of season or we will sink withput trace :old:


Patterson closes down and can score so see why he was used but when Zohore came on, the difference a real forward can make is huge.
The squad is frustrating as its clear what needed improving over the summer. I still think Reid and Zohore could work. Warnocks reaction to anything is to go more defensive.



ried is a no 10 and is good at getting in box late Ken as presence in area and certainly looks like scoring when on form. Patterson serves s purpose but is not an answer to our problems if remember he is also good at arriving at right time in area? Team needs an overhaul or we are in danger of slipping into trouble quickly probably after next 4 games..

Re: BREAKING: NEIL WARNOCK SPEAKS OUT ABOUT TODAYS HAMMERING

Sun Dec 23, 2018 12:08 am

No we need a striker better than Zohore.

Re: BREAKING: NEIL WARNOCK SPEAKS OUT ABOUT TODAYS HAMMERING

Sun Dec 23, 2018 12:10 am

pembroke allan wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:He bangs on about players looking good like Ken but then he doesn't play them just uses them for ten mins or so no wonder their form deteriorates! Yes give Ken a chance now Murphy cries out for someone in the middle but Patterson is not best option, NW needs to overhaul his strategy now not last month of season or we will sink withput trace :old:


Patterson closes down and can score so see why he was used but when Zohore came on, the difference a real forward can make is huge.
The squad is frustrating as its clear what needed improving over the summer. I still think Reid and Zohore could work. Warnocks reaction to anything is to go more defensive.



ried is a no 10 and is good at getting in box late Ken as presence in area and certainly looks like scoring when on form. Patterson serves s purpose but is not an answer to our problems if remember he is also good at arriving at right time in area? Team needs an overhaul or we are in danger of slipping into trouble quickly probably after next 4 games..


Ken works the channels surprisingly well and can make something out of nothing. It's just not aggressive on the air like some fans like. I think if we can Fit Reid and Zohore in and get them confident we have a chance. The issue is finding a place for Reid, Camarasa and zohore.

Re: BREAKING: NEIL WARNOCK SPEAKS OUT ABOUT TODAYS HAMMERING

Sun Dec 23, 2018 12:12 am

2blue2handle wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:He bangs on about players looking good like Ken but then he doesn't play them just uses them for ten mins or so no wonder their form deteriorates! Yes give Ken a chance now Murphy cries out for someone in the middle but Patterson is not best option, NW needs to overhaul his strategy now not last month of season or we will sink withput trace :old:


Patterson closes down and can score so see why he was used but when Zohore came on, the difference a real forward can make is huge.
The squad is frustrating as its clear what needed improving over the summer. I still think Reid and Zohore could work. Warnocks reaction to anything is to go more defensive.



ried is a no 10 and is good at getting in box late Ken as presence in area and certainly looks like scoring when on form. Patterson serves s purpose but is not an answer to our problems if remember he is also good at arriving at right time in area? Team needs an overhaul or we are in danger of slipping into trouble quickly probably after next 4 games..


Ken works the channels surprisingly well and can make something out of nothing. It's just not aggressive on the air like some fans like. I think if we can Fit Reid and Zohore in and get them confident we have a chance. The issue is finding a place for Reid, Camarasa and zohore.



Well only one way to find out and that's to experiment while still got time I think such a set up will work. NW as experimented with Patterson for long enough time to change tact .

Re: BREAKING: NEIL WARNOCK SPEAKS OUT ABOUT TODAYS HAMMERING

Sun Dec 23, 2018 12:19 am

pembroke allan wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:He bangs on about players looking good like Ken but then he doesn't play them just uses them for ten mins or so no wonder their form deteriorates! Yes give Ken a chance now Murphy cries out for someone in the middle but Patterson is not best option, NW needs to overhaul his strategy now not last month of season or we will sink withput trace :old:


Patterson closes down and can score so see why he was used but when Zohore came on, the difference a real forward can make is huge.
The squad is frustrating as its clear what needed improving over the summer. I still think Reid and Zohore could work. Warnocks reaction to anything is to go more defensive.



ried is a no 10 and is good at getting in box late Ken as presence in area and certainly looks like scoring when on form. Patterson serves s purpose but is not an answer to our problems if remember he is also good at arriving at right time in area? Team needs an overhaul or we are in danger of slipping into trouble quickly probably after next 4 games..


Ken works the channels surprisingly well and can make something out of nothing. It's just not aggressive on the air like some fans like. I think if we can Fit Reid and Zohore in and get them confident we have a chance. The issue is finding a place for Reid, Camarasa and zohore.



Well only one way to find out and that's to experiment while still got time I think such a set up will work. NW as experimented with Patterson for long enough time to change tact .


Agree

Re: BREAKING: NEIL WARNOCK SPEAKS OUT ABOUT TODAYS HAMMERING

Sun Dec 23, 2018 1:59 am

2blue2handle wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:He bangs on about players looking good like Ken but then he doesn't play them just uses them for ten mins or so no wonder their form deteriorates! Yes give Ken a chance now Murphy cries out for someone in the middle but Patterson is not best option, NW needs to overhaul his strategy now not last month of season or we will sink withput trace :old:


Patterson closes down and can score so see why he was used but when Zohore came on, the difference a real forward can make is huge.
The squad is frustrating as its clear what needed improving over the summer. I still think Reid and Zohore could work. Warnocks reaction to anything is to go more defensive.



ried is a no 10 and is good at getting in box late Ken as presence in area and certainly looks like scoring when on form. Patterson serves s purpose but is not an answer to our problems if remember he is also good at arriving at right time in area? Team needs an overhaul or we are in danger of slipping into trouble quickly probably after next 4 games..


Ken works the channels surprisingly well and can make something out of nothing. It's just not aggressive on the air like some fans like. I think if we can Fit Reid and Zohore in and get them confident we have a chance. The issue is finding a place for Reid, Camarasa and zohore.



Well only one way to find out and that's to experiment while still got time I think such a set up will work. NW as experimented with Patterson for long enough time to change tact .


Agree


Trouble is cannot see NW changing everyone can see what he's doing as limited success and the only way is down from here unless he as brain storm and put round pegs in round holes Instead of square pegs in triangler holes! :roll:

Re: BREAKING: NEIL WARNOCK SPEAKS OUT ABOUT TODAYS HAMMERING

Sun Dec 23, 2018 8:17 am

Dahboy wrote:No we need a striker better than Zohore.


100% we do if we want to stay up.

Re: BREAKING: NEIL WARNOCK SPEAKS OUT ABOUT TODAYS HAMMERING

Sun Dec 23, 2018 9:29 am

pembroke allan wrote:He bangs on about players looking good like Ken but then he doesn't play them just uses them for ten mins or so no wonder their form deteriorates! Yes give Ken a chance now Murphy cries out for someone in the middle but Patterson is not best option, NW needs to overhaul his strategy now not last month of season or we will sink withput trace :old:


Totally agree with you. Zohore is the best striker we have. Peterson gives 100% every game, is better in the air than Zohore however Zohore is the better striker. Has more pace, holds the the ball up well, creates chances & has a very good shot on him. I know he goes missing sometimes but I would still start him before Paterson.

Re: BREAKING NEIL WARNOCK: KENNETH ZOHORE LIKE A NEW STRIKER

Sun Dec 23, 2018 9:55 am

I am not a fan of Zohore, and I don't think he is Premier League quality. I will give credit when I think it is deserved, and I thought he did as well as he possibly could have given the quality of those around him, and considering that he had so little time on the pitch to have much influence. However, it can be easy to be up for these sort of games wanting to make a point against the top players. It's consistency that is now needed, and the willingness to bust a gut when playing against the lesser teams. Let's hope he can keep it up for the rest of the season, we need everyone at the top of their game if we are to have a chance of staying up.

Reading Warnock's comments on here, it looks as if we are not even close to signing any of the previously mentioned strikers, and I doubt if we would be in the market for a player in the French league unless the asking price is a lot less than the £15 to £20m which has been thrown around on earlier threads. Could be an interesting January, and I still think one of our problems will be persuading quality players to join a relegation threatened side.

Re: BREAKING: NEIL WARNOCK SPEAKS OUT ABOUT TODAYS HAMMERING

Sun Dec 23, 2018 12:15 pm

davids wrote:The back four are making mistake after mistake but still he persists with playing Morison, Bamba and Bruno in a back four.

The problem is that Warnock has no real alternatives so although you could make a case for dropping all three of them there is nobody to replace them.

For me Bruno is the best centre half at the club and the worst full back at the club.

Morison and Sol have had some absolute shockers this season and today was no exception. It's not their fault but they are not good enough. They get little or no protection from our midfield and they cannot cope with talented players running at them with pace and skill.

If we are genuinely going to attempt to stay in the league, realistically speaking we are looking at two full backs, a centre half, a midfield holding player and at least one and preferably two strikers.

As we know that isn't going to happen so we just need to get on with it.



Do you only post when we loose ?

What a load of shite you talk, fair play

Re: BREAKING: NEIL WARNOCK SPEAKS OUT ABOUT TODAYS HAMMERING

Sun Dec 23, 2018 3:44 pm

nubbsy wrote:
davids wrote:The back four are making mistake after mistake but still he persists with playing Morison, Bamba and Bruno in a back four.

The problem is that Warnock has no real alternatives so although you could make a case for dropping all three of them there is nobody to replace them.

For me Bruno is the best centre half at the club and the worst full back at the club.

Morison and Sol have had some absolute shockers this season and today was no exception. It's not their fault but they are not good enough. They get little or no protection from our midfield and they cannot cope with talented players running at them with pace and skill.

If we are genuinely going to attempt to stay in the league, realistically speaking we are looking at two full backs, a centre half, a midfield holding player and at least one and preferably two strikers.

As we know that isn't going to happen so we just need to get on with it.



Do you only post when we loose ?

What a load of shite you talk, fair play




There's a song there me thinks? You only Post when we're losing only post when we're losing? :laughing6:

Re: BREAKING NEIL WARNOCK: KENNETH ZOHORE LIKE A NEW STRIKER

Sun Dec 23, 2018 3:57 pm

He was the only positive yesterday and would start him and Reid next game and give Pato a rest.

Re: BREAKING NEIL WARNOCK: KENNETH ZOHORE LIKE A NEW STRIKER

Sun Dec 23, 2018 4:04 pm

Rydogsccfc wrote:He was the only positive yesterday and would start him and Reid next game and give Pato a rest.




Brilliant idea try telling NW as he doesn't believe in playing a forward or hev brings one on as sub at 70+ minutes :o

Re: BREAKING NEIL WARNOCK: KENNETH ZOHORE LIKE A NEW STRIKER

Sun Dec 23, 2018 4:05 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:He was the only positive yesterday and would start him and Reid next game and give Pato a rest.




Brilliant idea try telling NW as he doesn't believe in playing a forward or hev brings one on as sub at 70+ minutes :o


Warnock will sort it he’s a very experienced man. :thumbright:

Re: BREAKING NEIL WARNOCK: KENNETH ZOHORE LIKE A NEW STRIKER

Sun Dec 23, 2018 4:12 pm

Rydogsccfc wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:He was the only positive yesterday and would start him and Reid next game and give Pato a rest.




Brilliant idea try telling NW as he doesn't believe in playing a forward or hev brings one on as sub at 70+ minutes :o


Warnock will sort it he’s a very experienced man. :thumbright:




Come on he's had lots time to see what's wrong but he is reluctant to change anything. Problem is I'm sure he thinks we've done well up to now so let's keep doing it but in reality it will not be enough come end of season? So at what point does he realise this and will it be to late?

Re: BREAKING NEIL WARNOCK: KENNETH ZOHORE LIKE A NEW STRIKER

Sun Dec 23, 2018 4:17 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:He was the only positive yesterday and would start him and Reid next game and give Pato a rest.




Brilliant idea try telling NW as he doesn't believe in playing a forward or hev brings one on as sub at 70+ minutes :o


Warnock will sort it he’s a very experienced man. :thumbright:




Come on he's had lots time to see what's wrong but he is reluctant to change anything. Problem is I'm sure he thinks we've done well up to now so let's keep doing it but in reality it will not be enough come end of season? So at what point does he realise this and will it be to late?


I’m confident the away win will arrive I would be surprised if we went the whole season without an away win I’d be quite surprised and anyway I’m just enjoying this season coz we are fortunate to be here and the financial future for the club is bright and rather that than putting our club st risk like we did before by spending beyond our means. :thumbright: :ayatollah:

Re: BREAKING NEIL WARNOCK: KENNETH ZOHORE LIKE A NEW STRIKER

Sun Dec 23, 2018 4:50 pm

Rydogsccfc wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:He was the only positive yesterday and would start him and Reid next game and give Pato a rest.




Brilliant idea try telling NW as he doesn't believe in playing a forward or hev brings one on as sub at 70+ minutes :o


Warnock will sort it he’s a very experienced man. :thumbright:




Come on he's had lots time to see what's wrong but he is reluctant to change anything. Problem is I'm sure he thinks we've done well up to now so let's keep doing it but in reality it will not be enough come end of season? So at what point does he realise this and will it be to late?


I’m confident the away win will arrive I would be surprised if we went the whole season without an away win I’d be quite surprised and anyway I’m just enjoying this season coz we are fortunate to be here and the financial future for the club is bright and rather that than putting our club st risk like we did before by spending beyond our means. :thumbright: :ayatollah:


Not confident about an away win as Burnley took until last away game to get win and look where they finished? But as you say things are different and even if relegated i am confident that we will be fighting for promotion again next reason :thumbup:

Re: BREAKING NEIL WARNOCK: KENNETH ZOHORE LIKE A NEW STRIKER

Sun Dec 23, 2018 5:22 pm

Agree Zohore had a good game when he came on but part of the reason for that is that we were so far behind we actually did some attacking rather than get nine men round our penalty area. It's difficult for Patterson or indeed any of our forwards to look good when they are isolated up front. Still not convinced that Patterson is not our best forward I hope Zohore will come good but won't be holding my breath. Judging by the managers comments we won't be getting anyone in for big money. Maybe the geezer from Everton is the best or option if there is anything to the story.