Warnock: "I would have loved to bring in a striker but"

NEIL WARNOCK:

" We’re slightly different from the other two promoted clubs and haven’t got the money they’ve had."



'I've got to come up with solutions'

"It’s down to me a bit more than them. I’ve got to come up with solutions.What we could get away with in the Championship, we can’t get away with in the Premier League. You’ve got to change all the time as a manager, we’re slightly different from the other two promoted clubs and haven’t got the money they’ve had."

"I would have loved to bring in a striker but I’m not going to bemoan it. I want to try and enjoy the games against the big clubs and my tactics have got to be like that whether we win or lose - and that’s by giving us a chance to score goals. Everyone expects us to lose the next 3 games but I want to enjoy it.”

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I wonder if we could have done without Cunningham and Smithies to add to what was left in the pot to free up some extra cash for that striker we all crave for?

I wonder if we could have done without Cunningham and Smithies to add to what was left in the pot to free up some extra cash for that striker we all crave for?

We needed Smithies just in case Etheridge was out injured.

Cunningham was someone Warnock was chasing for a while so we were always going to get him.

Home grown or under 21 can play even though the 25 have been named, that’s one exception to the rule so can be done, are any of our youth/U23 strikers better than whet we currently have??

I wonder if we could have done without Cunningham and Smithies to add to what was left in the pot to free up some extra cash for that striker we all crave for?

We needed Smithies just in case Etheridge was out injured.

Cunningham was someone Warnock was chasing for a while so we were always going to get him.

Be interesting to see how it turns out,it’s just at the moment everyone seems to be on about our lack of strikers.
At this moment it seems a fair amount of our kitty on back up players.
Time will tell.

I wonder if we could have done without Cunningham and Smithies to add to what was left in the pot to free up some extra cash for that striker we all crave for?

Don't forget Etheridge is already due to miss games in January due to the Asian Cup.

I wonder if we could have done without Cunningham and Smithies to add to what was left in the pot to free up some extra cash for that striker we all crave for?

I thought they were good signings but I think if the budget was this small id have looked for cheaper alternatives.

In saying this he has brought in Reid so its not like he doesn't have options. He needs to work on getting the best from midfield and in particular the wide players to supply the strikers with some kind of service.

So he would have loved to bring in a striker but we did not have the money that the other clubs had. Seems to me that as I suggested in previous threads, he never had an extra £10m to spend. If he had that sort of money, I am sure he would have been able to bring another striker to the club. I always took that little sentence where he said he should have another £10m to spend as exactly that.

I should have plenty of things, but because of the way I lived my life I will never have them. I never believed he had any more cash than he spent. Tan has said there will be no big money available, and Warnock said he had the smallest budget in the league. Unless they were both telling porkies, it was'nt too difficult to work out roughly how much we had to spend during the transfer window.

Be interesting to see if any more will be given to Warnock in January. I suspect he will be very limited with what he can do during the next window.

So he would have loved to bring in a striker but we did not have the money that the other clubs had. Seems to me that as I suggested in previous threads, he never had an extra £10m to spend. If he had that sort of money, I am sure he would have been able to bring another striker to the club. I always took that little sentence where he said he should have another £10m to spend as exactly that.

I should have plenty of things, but because of the way I lived my life I will never have them. I never believed he had any more cash than he spent. Tan has said there will be no big money available, and Warnock said he had the smallest budget in the league. Unless they were both telling porkies, it was'nt too difficult to work out roughly how much we had to spend during the transfer window.

Be interesting to see if any more will be given to Warnock in January. I suspect he will be very limited with what he can do during the next window.

I was at a Q & A session when NW said there was still another 10m in the pot (after the other 4 signings) so why would he want to tell porkies? I guess they couldn’t find a suitable player within that price range. I can see City bring in a striker in January.

So he would have loved to bring in a striker but we did not have the money that the other clubs had. Seems to me that as I suggested in previous threads, he never had an extra £10m to spend. If he had that sort of money, I am sure he would have been able to bring another striker to the club. I always took that little sentence where he said he should have another £10m to spend as exactly that.

I should have plenty of things, but because of the way I lived my life I will never have them. I never believed he had any more cash than he spent. Tan has said there will be no big money available, and Warnock said he had the smallest budget in the league. Unless they were both telling porkies, it was'nt too difficult to work out roughly how much we had to spend during the transfer window.

Be interesting to see if any more will be given to Warnock in January. I suspect he will be very limited with what he can do during the next window.

I was at a Q & A session when NW said there was still another 10m in the pot (after the other 4 signings) so why would he want to tell porkies? I guess they couldn’t find a suitable player within that price range. I can see City bring in a striker in January.

Fair enough. I only saw the footage of the Q&A where he said he should have another £10m to spend.

I stand by this, Warnock never had that much money and had the lowest budget in the Premier League.

So he would have loved to bring in a striker but we did not have the money that the other clubs had. Seems to me that as I suggested in previous threads, he never had an extra £10m to spend. If he had that sort of money, I am sure he would have been able to bring another striker to the club. I always took that little sentence where he said he should have another £10m to spend as exactly that.

I should have plenty of things, but because of the way I lived my life I will never have them. I never believed he had any more cash than he spent. Tan has said there will be no big money available, and Warnock said he had the smallest budget in the league. Unless they were both telling porkies, it was'nt too difficult to work out roughly how much we had to spend during the transfer window.

Be interesting to see if any more will be given to Warnock in January. I suspect he will be very limited with what he can do during the next window.

I was at a Q & A session when NW said there was still another 10m in the pot (after the other 4 signings) so why would he want to tell porkies? I guess they couldn’t find a suitable player within that price range. I can see City bring in a striker in January.

There is no fault on NW for the desperately needed striker not having been brought in during the Summer.Obviously a manager like NW would have seen that gap in the squad but could do nothing about it based on the budget he was given.
The budget was set by Vincent Tan and NW spent it where he felt it was most needed and he knows better than I do where that need was in the squad.

As I have said several times before; why did Vincent Tan not speculate the extra money to allow NW to get a half decent striker in? Dwight Gayle or even Lewis Grabban would have been better than what we have now! Surely the aim must be to stay in the EPL for financial reasons alone so the failure to invest in a striker I fear will bite us in the bum and prove to be a false economy. We surely learnt last time we were promoted that the lack of a decent striker will get you relegated and the warning bells are already tinkling - albeit it faintly at the moment but they are definitely tinkling!

Neither can I accept the view that we have bought sensibly with a view to "when" we get relegated we can get straight back up - why? - so that we can repeat the same mistakes again? The "keep calm" brigade will no doubt tell me I am negative and only a few games have gone and we are not in the bottom three and not to worry as we will invest in a decent striker in January and everything will be ok. That seems to overlook three very important points:
Will we be close enough to the team that's fourth from bottom in January to get out of the bottom three?
Who will sell us a decent striker in January?
If we were being budget conscious in the Summer; just how much do we think we would need to spend to get a decent striker in January even if someone would sell us one?

I'm afraid the sad truth is that NW is trying to keep us up with one arm tied behind his back. He cannot make a silk purse out of a sow's ear nor walk on water. I also have a strong suspicion that no striker will materialise in January and lack of availability plus budgetary constraints or we are too far behind to make investing in a striker worthwhile will be given as the reason - time will tell if I'm right - I hope I've missed the mark completely but I think not.

All we can do is enjoy City in the EPL and support the team 110% - I suspect NW will be getting a chance at his 9th promotion in due course!

So he would have loved to bring in a striker but we did not have the money that the other clubs had. Seems to me that as I suggested in previous threads, he never had an extra £10m to spend. If he had that sort of money, I am sure he would have been able to bring another striker to the club. I always took that little sentence where he said he should have another £10m to spend as exactly that.

I should have plenty of things, but because of the way I lived my life I will never have them. I never believed he had any more cash than he spent. Tan has said there will be no big money available, and Warnock said he had the smallest budget in the league. Unless they were both telling porkies, it was'nt too difficult to work out roughly how much we had to spend during the transfer window.

Be interesting to see if any more will be given to Warnock in January. I suspect he will be very limited with what he can do during the next window.

I was at a Q & A session when NW said there was still another 10m in the pot (after the other 4 signings) so why would he want to tell porkies? I guess they couldn’t find a suitable player within that price range. I can see City bring in a striker in January.

Fair enough. I only saw the footage of the Q&A where he said he should have another £10m to spend.

The main point of the post is why NW would want to tell porkies and not the fact whether you actually heard or saw NW say we had another 10m to spend. Either the money is there or not there but I can’t think of a reason why he should say there was if there wasn’t.

Totally get the lessons learnt from last time.However there is no where near enough ambition in relation to bringing in new players.

Home grown or under 21 can play even though the 25 have been named, that’s one exception to the rule so can be done, are any of our youth/U23 strikers better than whet we currently have??

Of course they aren’t or they’d be playing

So he would have loved to bring in a striker but we did not have the money that the other clubs had. Seems to me that as I suggested in previous threads, he never had an extra £10m to spend. If he had that sort of money, I am sure he would have been able to bring another striker to the club. I always took that little sentence where he said he should have another £10m to spend as exactly that.

I should have plenty of things, but because of the way I lived my life I will never have them. I never believed he had any more cash than he spent. Tan has said there will be no big money available, and Warnock said he had the smallest budget in the league. Unless they were both telling porkies, it was'nt too difficult to work out roughly how much we had to spend during the transfer window.

Be interesting to see if any more will be given to Warnock in January. I suspect he will be very limited with what he can do during the next window.

I was at a Q & A session when NW said there was still another 10m in the pot (after the other 4 signings) so why would he want to tell porkies? I guess they couldn’t find a suitable player within that price range. I can see City bring in a striker in January.

There is no fault on NW for the desperately needed striker not having been brought in during the Summer.Obviously a manager like NW would have seen that gap in the squad but could do nothing about it based on the budget he was given.
The budget was set by Vincent Tan and NW spent it where he felt it was most needed and he knows better than I do where that need was in the squad.

As I have said several times before; why did Vincent Tan not speculate the extra money to allow NW to get a half decent striker in? Dwight Gayle or even Lewis Grabban would have been better than what we have now! Surely the aim must be to stay in the EPL for financial reasons alone so the failure to invest in a striker I fear will bite us in the bum and prove to be a false economy. We surely learnt last time we were promoted that the lack of a decent striker will get you relegated and the warning bells are already tinkling - albeit it faintly at the moment but they are definitely tinkling!

Neither can I accept the view that we have bought sensibly with a view to "when" we get relegated we can get straight back up - why? - so that we can repeat the same mistakes again? The "keep calm" brigade will no doubt tell me I am negative and only a few games have gone and we are not in the bottom three and not to worry as we will invest in a decent striker in January and everything will be ok. That seems to overlook three very important points:
Will we be close enough to the team that's fourth from bottom in January to get out of the bottom three?
Who will sell us a decent striker in January?
If we were being budget conscious in the Summer; just how much do we think we would need to spend to get a decent striker in January even if someone would sell us one?

I'm afraid the sad truth is that NW is trying to keep us up with one arm tied behind his back. He cannot make a silk purse out of a sow's ear nor walk on water. I also have a strong suspicion that no striker will materialise in January and lack of availability plus budgetary constraints or we are too far behind to make investing in a striker worthwhile will be given as the reason - time will tell if I'm right - I hope I've missed the mark completely but I think not.

All we can do is enjoy City in the EPL and support the team 110% - I suspect NW will be getting a chance at his 9th promotion in due course!

Tan made it clear when we changed back to blue: no red no cash. He obviously keeps his word.

He has signed a striker Bobby Reid scored 26 goals in all competitions for Bristol last season. The problem is Warnock likes playing a 4-5-1 with a big centre forward up front.Reid does not really fit into this system and probably needs to be playing in a 4-4-2 alongside a big centre forward. He has to find a solution to this as Reid must be out best chance of scoring goals this season. Playing Reid as a sort of auxiliary forward/midfielder doesn't seem to be working so far.

I wonder if we could have done without Cunningham and Smithies to add to what was left in the pot to free up some extra cash for that striker we all crave for?

I'm starting to think more along the lines that we should have saved the money on Reid and possibly added a bit more and bought a striker thay fits our system.

He has signed a striker Bobby Reid scored 26 goals in all competitions for Bristol last season. The problem is Warnock likes playing a 4-5-1 with a big centre forward up front.Reid does not really fit into this system and probably needs to be playing in a 4-4-2 alongside a big centre forward. He has to find a solution to this as Reid must be out best chance of scoring goals this season. Playing Reid as a sort of auxiliary forward/midfielder doesn't seem to be working so far.

Good constructive criticism.

I wonder if we could have done without Cunningham and Smithies to add to what was left in the pot to free up some extra cash for that striker we all crave for?

I'm starting to think more along the lines that we should have saved the money on Reid and possibly added a bit more and bought a striker thay fits our system.

It seems at the moment that Reid is in the same predicament as Tomlin - position wise.
He may well be our best hope of goals from open play and I believe Warnock must try to fit him in to the starting eleven and give him a run of games.

Hmm ,just thinking ( dangerous ) last time we were in the prem in the 2nd half of the season we had Kenwyn Jones a known striker ,he didn't save us from the drop !!!.

He has signed a striker Bobby Reid scored 26 goals in all competitions for Bristol last season. The problem is Warnock likes playing a 4-5-1 with a big centre forward up front.Reid does not really fit into this system and probably needs to be playing in a 4-4-2 alongside a big centre forward. He has to find a solution to this as Reid must be out best chance of scoring goals this season. Playing Reid as a sort of auxiliary forward/midfielder doesn't seem to be working so far.

Good constructive criticism.

Bloody hell, you're up early Carl

So he would have loved to bring in a striker but we did not have the money that the other clubs had. Seems to me that as I suggested in previous threads, he never had an extra £10m to spend. If he had that sort of money, I am sure he would have been able to bring another striker to the club. I always took that little sentence where he said he should have another £10m to spend as exactly that.

I should have plenty of things, but because of the way I lived my life I will never have them. I never believed he had any more cash than he spent. Tan has said there will be no big money available, and Warnock said he had the smallest budget in the league. Unless they were both telling porkies, it was'nt too difficult to work out roughly how much we had to spend during the transfer window.

Be interesting to see if any more will be given to Warnock in January. I suspect he will be very limited with what he can do during the next window.

I was at a Q & A session when NW said there was still another 10m in the pot (after the other 4 signings) so why would he want to tell porkies? I guess they couldn’t find a suitable player within that price range. I can see City bring in a striker in January.

Fair enough. I only saw the footage of the Q&A where he said he should have another £10m to spend.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nOxGMF ... e=youtu.be

I can't remember his actual words but this was the interview I watched although I can't be bothered to watch it all again I felt he said he had another 10m but if anyone wants to watch it and confirm what he actually said.

See Aston Villa signed Tammy Abraham on loan from Chelsea yesterday. Granted he did not do much for Swansea in an injury him season last season but was fantastic for Bristol City the season before. To be honest I would certainlyz prefer a fit Abraham to Madine and Ward and he has a better scoring record in the championship to Zohore too.

My own take on it (for what it's worth) is that if we are ever going to be an established Premier League team it will have to be under a different owner or owners than Vincent Tan.

The size of the budget available to Neil Warnock would tend to suggest that the vast majority of the massive TV monies which the club will receive from being in the Premier League will be used to reduce the debt (most of which is owed to Tan of course) with a view to ultimately getting the club on a sound financial footing (an admirable aim in itself) with a view to Tan selling the club.

I do not for one minute think that he has suddenly become "bitten by the bug" and fallen back in love with football again suddenly -in some ways he's the ultimate "plastic" fan. We didn't see him anywhere near Cardiff for a couple of seasons whilst Slade and Trollope were doing the dirty work and taking the flak.

I'm sure he's delighted to have such a large income guaranteed for the next few years but I cannot really see any ambition to spend the sort of money that realistically would be needed to establish the club in the PL. I'm not talking about the £100m that both West Ham and Fulham have spent to no great avail as yet but a higher proportion of the monies received on giving the manager the best chance of surviving in the League.

If we were to stay up this season, or get relegated and then come straight back up, does anyone think that the purse strings would be loosened up considerably at that point?

I'm not sure - I do not wish to be overly critical because I still feel that without his intervention and the huge amount of money he has invested we would be in a much worse position than we are today and if he leaves us with a debt free club he will be by far the best owner we have ever had (if he is not already) but my own feelings are that his ambitions for the club will be to get into a position where it is most attractive to potential buyers.

Whilst that is the case there will only ever be very limited funds available to whoever is our manager under Tan.

My own take on it (for what it's worth) is that if we are ever going to be an established Premier League team it will have to be under a different owner or owners than Vincent Tan.

The size of the budget available to Neil Warnock would tend to suggest that the vast majority of the massive TV monies which the club will receive from being in the Premier League will be used to reduce the debt (most of which is owed to Tan of course) with a view to ultimately getting the club on a sound financial footing (an admirable aim in itself) with a view to Tan selling the club.

I do not for one minute think that he has suddenly become "bitten by the bug" and fallen back in love with football again suddenly -in some ways he's the ultimate "plastic" fan. We didn't see him anywhere near Cardiff for a couple of seasons whilst Slade and Trollope were doing the dirty work and taking the flak.

I'm sure he's delighted to have such a large income guaranteed for the next few years but I cannot really see any ambition to spend the sort of money that realistically would be needed to establish the club in the PL. I'm not talking about the £100m that both West Ham and Fulham have spent to no great avail as yet but a higher proportion of the monies received on giving the manager the best chance of surviving in the League.

If we were to stay up this season, or get relegated and then come straight back up, does anyone think that the purse strings would be loosened up considerably at that point?

I'm not sure - I do not wish to be overly critical because I still feel that without his intervention and the huge amount of money he has invested we would be in a much worse position than we are today and if he leaves us with a debt free club he will be by far the best owner we have ever had (if he is not already) but my own feelings are that his ambitions for the club will be to get into a position where it is most attractive to potential buyers.

Whilst that is the case there will only ever be very limited funds available to whoever is our manager under Tan.

SPOT ON David (except for Rebrand stops him being our best ever owner)

Its really simple in my eyes....

Tan gambled last time, lost, got dog abuse some racial, got his fingers further burnt by bringing in a known name manager who splashed daft money on proven" premiership quality", built a new stand for the additional fans, got relegated.

Next season we were left with a fire sale of "talent" but were left with the crap that no one else wanted who were very expensive. The fans who stayed (loyalists) stepped up their protest didn't bother turning up for a FA cup game to show their detest of the regime. Tan buckled and returned to blue but it was a cracking excuse to stop throwing good money after bad and he made a point of telling us there was no more investment. We had a big empty red stand.

Next season, less fans, no Tan

Next season, lower season ticket sales, attempt to cash in on Wales success, it back fires again, with a costly proven premiership striker........Looks like we are going into L1 oblivion...Hires Warnock

The genius that is Warnock somehow flukes his way back into the premier league with little funding..Tan has a lifeline to walkaway with some pride and cash by not making the same mistakes as last. He buys young English players who will be very easy to move on if they have a good season or at least will perform in the championship. All have relegation clauses. He hopes we can battle our way to 17th but if we don't he is going to repay a few loan notes to himself from the TV money.

No gambles,or speculation just a sound plan which Warnock understands, He may not agree with it, but no other club would give him a shot at the premier league again anyway.

I am just enjoying the ride. The squad is massively lacking quality but won't lack courage or effort. We may surprise a few.