“ VAR in the Premier League? “

I’m watching United v Spurs.

Spurs should have had a clear penalty in that first half.

It’s not the first incident like that which hasn’t been given in these first three weeks.

VAR would have resolved all these incidents, yet Premier League clubs voted against it in the summer.

Surely we have to see VAR in the Premier League from next season?

To be honest the clubs shouldn’t have a say, they should be told by the FA that this is happening to try and help the refs and stop the moaning of dodgy decisions, pretty sure they told clubs they had no choice with goal line tech in the end

The VAR debate will carry on forever until it is actual in full time, it is smacking the Premier League in the face when desisions are not given by referees. That is why there was not a single english ref in the world cup.

I am all for VAR because then we get desisions right and then we will not get players sorrounding the referee and other players diving or toughing the other player then fall just to get a penalty or free kick.

What was obvious about that tackle? Used shoulder then legs connect only way to see that part was slow motion! Var definition clear and obvious errors if that's an error well may as well do away with officials and ref game from studio. Ref had clear view so is his decision worthless? .

To be honest the clubs shouldn’t have a say, they should be told by the FA that this is happening to try and help the refs and stop the moaning of dodgy decisions, pretty sure they told clubs they had no choice with goal line tech in the end

the FA made the decision that its not happening..thank god..it resolves nothing it just moves the debate from was the ref right to were the var officials right..

To be honest the clubs shouldn’t have a say, they should be told by the FA that this is happening to try and help the refs and stop the moaning of dodgy decisions, pretty sure they told clubs they had no choice with goal line tech in the end

the FA made the decision that its not happening..thank god..it resolves nothing it just moves the debate from was the ref right to were the var officials right..

Worked well in the World Cup, apart from when England players wanted every decision looked at

To be honest the clubs shouldn’t have a say, they should be told by the FA that this is happening to try and help the refs and stop the moaning of dodgy decisions, pretty sure they told clubs they had no choice with goal line tech in the end

the FA made the decision that its not happening..thank god..it resolves nothing it just moves the debate from was the ref right to were the var officials right..

All var does is make refs question their decision making? Like tonight ref 10yds away clear view he decides no pen, goes to var sees leg contact with slow motion changes mind. What happens next contact in area does he say no pen only to change mind again with var or gives pen only to change mind after var? Yes var would have disallowed goal other day for handball even if was not intentional but in reality no one appealed so no controversy on pitch.
As it doesn't guarantee 100% correct decision (according to fifa) whays the point?

To be honest the clubs shouldn’t have a say, they should be told by the FA that this is happening to try and help the refs and stop the moaning of dodgy decisions, pretty sure they told clubs they had no choice with goal line tech in the end

the FA made the decision that its not happening..thank god..it resolves nothing it just moves the debate from was the ref right to were the var officials right..

Worked well in the World Cup, apart from when England players wanted every decision looked at

well it did interfere, not so sure how well it interfered..i saw some pretty blatant stuff not be pulled up and some very dubious decisions given by VAR...in a nutshell you have the BEST people officiating..and lesser officials telling them they are wrong..
youll never get everything right in the game people need to accept that..but the games in good shape attendances and TV audiences show that..not broke dont fix it

To be honest the clubs shouldn’t have a say, they should be told by the FA that this is happening to try and help the refs and stop the moaning of dodgy decisions, pretty sure they told clubs they had no choice with goal line tech in the end

the FA made the decision that its not happening..thank god..it resolves nothing it just moves the debate from was the ref right to were the var officials right..

The decision was made because they felt the referees weren’t ready and needed more training which is ongoing.
It’s almost certainly being used next season.

The VAR debate will carry on forever until it is actual in full time, it is smacking the Premier League in the face when desisions are not given by referees. That is why there was not a single english ref in the world cup.

I am all for VAR because then we get desisions right and then we will not get players sorrounding the referee and other players diving or toughing the other player then fall just to get a penalty or free kick.

The reason there wasn’t a referee from the Premier League at the World Cup is because Mark Clattenburg went to Saudi Arabia.

It was then too late in the cycle for a Premier League referee to make the World Cup shortlist.

To be honest the clubs shouldn’t have a say, they should be told by the FA that this is happening to try and help the refs and stop the moaning of dodgy decisions, pretty sure they told clubs they had no choice with goal line tech in the end

the FA made the decision that its not happening..thank god..it resolves nothing it just moves the debate from was the ref right to were the var officials right..

The decision was made because they felt the referees weren’t ready and needed more training which is ongoing.
It’s almost certainly being used next season.

more training??????????....nooooooooooo.
if these VAR refs can be trained to be better get them on the pitch..

The VAR debate will carry on forever until it is actual in full time, it is smacking the Premier League in the face when desisions are not given by referees. That is why there was not a single english ref in the world cup.

I am all for VAR because then we get desisions right and then we will not get players sorrounding the referee and other players diving or toughing the other player then fall just to get a penalty or free kick.

did you watch kane and mitrovic wrestled to the ground.....nothing given..?
but your all for it because they get decisions right...no mate they dont
how can 3 5th rate refs watching tv be better than 3 top refs on a pitch...

To be honest the clubs shouldn’t have a say, they should be told by the FA that this is happening to try and help the refs and stop the moaning of dodgy decisions, pretty sure they told clubs they had no choice with goal line tech in the end

the FA made the decision that its not happening..thank god..it resolves nothing it just moves the debate from was the ref right to were the var officials right..

Worked well in the World Cup, apart from when England players wanted every decision looked at

Worked well except when referees couldn't agree what was accidental handball, and what was a foul and what was a wrestling match? and get refs making 20 mistakes a game and var making none if that's case what is the ref for Just to kick off each half dont need them to end a half as can use hooter like in rugby league.

To be honest the clubs shouldn’t have a say, they should be told by the FA that this is happening to try and help the refs and stop the moaning of dodgy decisions, pretty sure they told clubs they had no choice with goal line tech in the end

the FA made the decision that its not happening..thank god..it resolves nothing it just moves the debate from was the ref right to were the var officials right..

Worked well in the World Cup, apart from when England players wanted every decision looked at

Worked well except when referees couldn't agree what was accidental handball, and what was a foul and what was a wrestling match? and get refs making 20 mistakes a game and var making none if that's case what is the ref for Just to kick off each half dont need them to end a half as can use hooter like in rugby league.

it will come in mate..i think its inevitable the way its being pushed..but im not sure its for the good of the game , all the world cup proved was that almost every one of these decisions was debated in pubs, living rooms and on TV by people who have played at the highest level the same as they would debate refs decisions..

Sometimes you get them, some times you don't. That's football.

I'm against VAR personally.

Sometimes you get them, some times you don't. That's football.

I'm against VAR personally.

same here....we all see things slightly differently..refs..var refs..pundits..managers and fans..its actually a massive attraction to the game...
goaline technology is technology..ill live with that..
tv replays with extra refs giving opinions is NOT technology..its to many chefs spoiling the broth..

To be honest the clubs shouldn’t have a say, they should be told by the FA that this is happening to try and help the refs and stop the moaning of dodgy decisions, pretty sure they told clubs they had no choice with goal line tech in the end

the FA made the decision that its not happening..thank god..it resolves nothing it just moves the debate from was the ref right to were the var officials right..

Worked well in the World Cup, apart from when England players wanted every decision looked at

Worked well except when referees couldn't agree what was accidental handball, and what was a foul and what was a wrestling match? and get refs making 20 mistakes a game and var making none if that's case what is the ref for Just to kick off each half dont need them to end a half as can use hooter like in rugby league.

it will come in mate..i think its inevitable the way its being pushed..but im not sure its for the good of the game , all the world cup proved was that almost every one of these decisions was debated in pubs, living rooms and on TV by people who have played at the highest level the same as they would debate refs decisions..

In world cup only 3 ref decisions were wrong and var corrected them all other var decisions were subjective and certainly not refereeing errors its easy to make decision when look at something in super slow motion with 26 cameras to help! I prefer way things are var will just undermine referees in long run. Other leagues that use it would prefer it to be dropped but the powers that be want it so your right it will probably come in but at what cost to the officials?

To be honest the clubs shouldn’t have a say, they should be told by the FA that this is happening to try and help the refs and stop the moaning of dodgy decisions, pretty sure they told clubs they had no choice with goal line tech in the end

the FA made the decision that its not happening..thank god..it resolves nothing it just moves the debate from was the ref right to were the var officials right..

Worked well in the World Cup, apart from when England players wanted every decision looked at

Worked well except when referees couldn't agree what was accidental handball, and what was a foul and what was a wrestling match? and get refs making 20 mistakes a game and var making none if that's case what is the ref for Just to kick off each half dont need them to end a half as can use hooter like in rugby league.

it will come in mate..i think its inevitable the way its being pushed..but im not sure its for the good of the game , all the world cup proved was that almost every one of these decisions was debated in pubs, living rooms and on TV by people who have played at the highest level the same as they would debate refs decisions..

In world cup only 3 ref decisions were wrong and var corrected them all other var decisions were subjective and certainly not refereeing errors its easy to make decision when look at something in super slow motion with 26 cameras to help! I prefer way things are var will just undermine referees in long run. Other leagues that use it would prefer it to be dropped but the powers that be want it so your right it will probably come in but at what cost to the officials?

only 3 wrong.?..fifa agenda based figures.?
i honestly dont know how anyone can begin to claim that tbh...

What was obvious about that tackle? Used shoulder then legs connect only way to see that part was slow motion! Var definition clear and obvious errors if that's an error well may as well do away with officials and ref game from studio. Ref had clear view so is his decision worthless? .

I would say a definite penalty & regardless of that challenge in the first 3 weeks of this season there have been horrendous mistakes which VAR would have cleared up. For example, the Wolves hand ball on scoring the goal that gave them a point against Man City. If Wolves stayed up after finishing 1 point above City would you be happy? In our game with Newcastle clearly Kennedy would have been sent off, less so Arter because he received a yellow card. The ref just missed the Kennedy kick. That is an obvious error. There are many other examples week in week out. There are huge sums of money involved in football and to lose out on some ridiculous decisions is ruining the game. VAR was a huge success at the World Cup and it now seems that the Premier League is going backwards. I do not buy into this rubbish ‘ decisions even themselves out over the season’ - they don’t. 1 wrong decision is 1 too many as it could cost a club 100-150m e.g. the Wolves handball.

If a referee made, say, 5 key mistakes in a game, but VAR cleared up 3-4 of them, then VAR made a positive impact on that game of football.

VAR will reduce the amount of poor decisions in a game. That’s a good thing. It won’t reduce them to zero, but t will ensure that referees make less poor decisions on a whole. How ANYONE can be against that is staggering.

Even more staggering is the common approach of saying that if VAR misses one thing, it’s not suitable for purpose. But if a referee misses 5-6, that’s an acceptable part of the game. Get out of the dinosaur ages, guys - football needs to evolve with the times.

What was obvious about that tackle? Used shoulder then legs connect only way to see that part was slow motion! Var definition clear and obvious errors if that's an error well may as well do away with officials and ref game from studio. Ref had clear view so is his decision worthless? .

I would say a definite penalty & regardless of that challenge in the first 3 weeks of this season there have been horrendous mistakes which VAR would have cleared up. For example, the Wolves hand ball on scoring the goal that gave them a point against Man City. If Wolves stayed up after finishing 1 point above City would you be happy? In our game with Newcastle clearly Kennedy would have been sent off, less so Arter because he received a yellow card. The ref just missed the Kennedy kick. That is an obvious error. There are many other examples week in week out. There are huge sums of money involved in football and to lose out on some ridiculous decisions is ruining the game. VAR was a huge success at the World Cup and it now seems that the Premier League is going backwards. I do not buy into this rubbish ‘ decisions even themselves out over the season’ - they don’t. 1 wrong decision is 1 too many as it could cost a club 100-150m e.g. the Wolves handball.

Decisions arnt ruining the game. It's been this way since day one.

I certainly wouldn't look at the handball if wolves finished 1pt above us, I'd be looking at games that we failed to get points in. Seems like you're already lining up excuses haha... Imo anyway Wolves will finish well above us.

If a referee made, say, 5 key mistakes in a game, but VAR cleared up 3-4 of them, then VAR made a positive impact on that game of football.

VAR will reduce the amount of poor decisions in a game. That’s a good thing. It won’t reduce them to zero, but t will ensure that referees make less poor decisions on a whole. How ANYONE can be against that is staggering.

Even more staggering is the common approach of saying that if VAR misses one thing, it’s not suitable for purpose. But if a referee misses 5-6, that’s an acceptable part of the game. Get out of the dinosaur ages, guys - football needs to evolve with the times.

footballs popularity has grown and grown and is still growing so evolve into what exactly..? rugby?..NFL.?
btw this get out of the dinosaur era its 2018 often used remark about anything and everything new ..???? its not being a dinosaur to realise that us humans come up with ideas all the time and have done for thousands of years and that 99.9999999% were not good ideas..i thought EVERYONE knew that..but there again no doubt the square wheel had its fans too.

What was obvious about that tackle? Used shoulder then legs connect only way to see that part was slow motion! Var definition clear and obvious errors if that's an error well may as well do away with officials and ref game from studio. Ref had clear view so is his decision worthless? .

I would say a definite penalty & regardless of that challenge in the first 3 weeks of this season there have been horrendous mistakes which VAR would have cleared up. For example, the Wolves hand ball on scoring the goal that gave them a point against Man City. If Wolves stayed up after finishing 1 point above City would you be happy? In our game with Newcastle clearly Kennedy would have been sent off, less so Arter because he received a yellow card. The ref just missed the Kennedy kick. That is an obvious error. There are many other examples week in week out. There are huge sums of money involved in football and to lose out on some ridiculous decisions is ruining the game. VAR was a huge success at the World Cup and it now seems that the Premier League is going backwards. I do not buy into this rubbish ‘ decisions even themselves out over the season’ - they don’t. 1 wrong decision is 1 too many as it could cost a club 100-150m e.g. the Wolves handball.

ruining the game.........you do know its VAR that is new and not football itself..?.and the standard of refs has improved .?
personaaly i watched enough in the world cup to have huge doubts depite FIFAS take on it where every outcome was deemed correct..
im not alone being unconvinced either..the FA have not implemenyed it ,there is no ground swell of complaint from clubs,managers,players or supporters to have it either, and some leagues who have implemented it are sorry they have done so....yes id like every decision to be correct to but VAR which is human opinion based does not do that..
losing the spontaniety of the game is too big a price to pay for something that works SOMETIMES..

What was obvious about that tackle? Used shoulder then legs connect only way to see that part was slow motion! Var definition clear and obvious errors if that's an error well may as well do away with officials and ref game from studio. Ref had clear view so is his decision worthless? .

I would say a definite penalty & regardless of that challenge in the first 3 weeks of this season there have been horrendous mistakes which VAR would have cleared up. For example, the Wolves hand ball on scoring the goal that gave them a point against Man City. If Wolves stayed up after finishing 1 point above City would you be happy? In our game with Newcastle clearly Kennedy would have been sent off, less so Arter because he received a yellow card. The ref just missed the Kennedy kick. That is an obvious error. There are many other examples week in week out. There are huge sums of money involved in football and to lose out on some ridiculous decisions is ruining the game. VAR was a huge success at the World Cup and it now seems that the Premier League is going backwards. I do not buy into this rubbish ‘ decisions even themselves out over the season’ - they don’t. 1 wrong decision is 1 too many as it could cost a club 100-150m e.g. the Wolves handball.

ruining the game.........you do know its VAR that is new and not football itself..?.and the standard of refs has improved .?
personaaly i watched enough in the world cup to have huge doubts depite FIFAS take on it where every outcome was deemed correct..
im not alone being unconvinced either..the FA have not implemented it ,there is no ground swell of complaint from clubs,managers,players or supporters to have it either, and some leagues who have implemented it are sorry they have done so....yes id like every decision to be correct to, but VAR which is human opinion based does not do that..
losing the spontaneity of the game is too big a price to pay for something that works SOMETIMES..

What was obvious about that tackle? Used shoulder then legs connect only way to see that part was slow motion! Var definition clear and obvious errors if that's an error well may as well do away with officials and ref game from studio. Ref had clear view so is his decision worthless? .

I would say a definite penalty & regardless of that challenge in the first 3 weeks of this season there have been horrendous mistakes which VAR would have cleared up. For example, the Wolves hand ball on scoring the goal that gave them a point against Man City. If Wolves stayed up after finishing 1 point above City would you be happy? In our game with Newcastle clearly Kennedy would have been sent off, less so Arter because he received a yellow card. The ref just missed the Kennedy kick. That is an obvious error. There are many other examples week in week out. There are huge sums of money involved in football and to lose out on some ridiculous decisions is ruining the game. VAR was a huge success at the World Cup and it now seems that the Premier League is going backwards. I do not buy into this rubbish ‘ decisions even themselves out over the season’ - they don’t. 1 wrong decision is 1 too many as it could cost a club 100-150m e.g. the Wolves handball.

ruining the game.........you do know its VAR that is new and not football itself..?.and the standard of refs has improved .?
personaaly i watched enough in the world cup to have huge doubts depite FIFAS take on it where every outcome was deemed correct..
im not alone being unconvinced either..the FA have not implemenyed it ,there is no ground swell of complaint from clubs,managers,players or supporters to have it either, and some leagues who have implemented it are sorry they have done so....yes id like every decision to be correct to but VAR which is human opinion based does not do that..
losing the spontaniety of the game is too big a price to pay for something that works SOMETIMES..

You say def pen and yet a professional person didn't think so 10yds away,!! There's always mistakes in football its part of it, you can highlight as many errors as you like but at end day do you want the ref to ref game or someone watching hundreds of miles away? As for costing clubs it works both ways your side could be relegated because goal disallowed by var when ref gave it, as for wolves game no one complained as it wasn't seen so no error until slow motion replay. As I've said before var will go way of tmo in rugby where 99% of times ref asks tmo for a decision do you want that in football?

To be honest the clubs shouldn’t have a say, they should be told by the FA that this is happening to try and help the refs and stop the moaning of dodgy decisions, pretty sure they told clubs they had no choice with goal line tech in the end

the FA made the decision that its not happening..thank god..it resolves nothing it just moves the debate from was the ref right to were the var officials right..

The decision was made because they felt the referees weren’t ready and needed more training which is ongoing.
It’s almost certainly being used next season.

more training??????????....nooooooooooo.
if these VAR refs can be trained to be better get them on the pitch..

Not sure why all the question marks histrionics. That's the official view not mine.

To be honest the clubs shouldn’t have a say, they should be told by the FA that this is happening to try and help the refs and stop the moaning of dodgy decisions, pretty sure they told clubs they had no choice with goal line tech in the end

the FA made the decision that its not happening..thank god..it resolves nothing it just moves the debate from was the ref right to were the var officials right..

The decision was made because they felt the referees weren’t ready and needed more training which is ongoing.
It’s almost certainly being used next season.

more training??????????....nooooooooooo.
if these VAR refs can be trained to be better get them on the pitch..

Not sure why all the question marks histrionics. That's the official view not mine.

We've seen mistakes as well as correct decisions and they're are training to try to eliminate the mistakes and get better before it's brought in.
Quite simple really.

Apparently the premier league have decided that it will come in next season!

Apparently the premier league have decided that it will come in next season!

Be interesting how they deal with 10 games simultaneously last day of season all teams play at same time! now we can all have arguments about whether var decision was right especially when decision goes against us if we are there of course .

To be honest the clubs shouldn’t have a say, they should be told by the FA that this is happening to try and help the refs and stop the moaning of dodgy decisions, pretty sure they told clubs they had no choice with goal line tech in the end

the FA made the decision that its not happening..thank god..it resolves nothing it just moves the debate from was the ref right to were the var officials right..

The decision was made because they felt the referees weren’t ready and needed more training which is ongoing.
It’s almost certainly being used next season.

more training??????????....nooooooooooo.
if these VAR refs can be trained to be better get them on the pitch..

Not sure why all the question marks histrionics. That's the official view not mine.

lol ..not histrionics at all..more training seems to be the answer to everything whether its kens heading or VAR..
these are highly trained to start with, know the rules inside out have done the job for years ,risen through many levels, have all the badges,and make decisions based on the rules and their opinions..now are they telling these people having the extra training to go by a different set of rules or to go against their opinions.?
proper dont get this eyewash tbh....on one hand FIFA saying it was a huge success yet the people applying the rules need more training.?
there are decisions in every game that are impossible to judge..one ref will say foul and another ref no foul no matter how much its slowed down and no matter how many tv angles, its not technology its just blame shifting at the expense of the best game in the world.