Did we need Bobby Reid

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Another glass half empty poster, you need to be more positive, it’s early days

Not sure what tactics / personnel he was thinking of but for me when we go 3 at the back (3 5 11) with Bobby Reid around Zohore is a better option than Murphy who at his stage in his career is a 433 wide forward

I think this will be our safe (0-0) option with 433 as our home formation against our mini league rivals

Not sure what tactics / personnel he was thinking of but for me when we go 3 at the back (3 5 11) with Bobby Reid around Zohore is a better option than Murphy who at his stage in his career is a 433 wide forward

I think this will be our safe (0-0) option with 433 as our home formation against our mini league rivals

llan, I like the idea of your 3 5 11 formation.

With 19 outfield players on the pitch we might even score a goal!

I think we are going to be forced into a change of formation without holliet and lang bobby reid for me with zahore not Paterson we spent 10 mill on him lets use him he has got to have more time than 10 mins here and there we have a chance to try it out against norwich he played off the striker with bristol and it worked, and I know neil likes the wingers but there not there so hopefully he will use the norwich game as a testing ground.

Massive improvement on the squad and gives us another option. Yes he was needed and will play a big role for us this year.

Reid is a good player to have in the squad even if we find own he will be very useful.

With potentially no Mendez or Hoilett next weekend do we go 3-5-2 ?

Manga Morrison Bamba
Murphy or Richards Arter Camarasa Ralls Bennett
Reid or Murphy Zohore


Thoughts....?

Whenever we play three at the back we look lost. The only way to accommodate Reid is if we play two genuine holding players in a 4-2-3-1, but we need Gunnars for that.

Yes!
Imo if we play the system weve started and how we played mostly last season we will not get enough goals to stay up, our striker will be isolated and wont be good enough to put them away the very little chances rhey get and not enough will come from other players either imo, BUT if bobby reid is playing as a 10 behind the striker i could see us scoring a lot more goals through him scoring and also bringing others around him to chip in with more goals aswell. A 442 or 4231 formation needs to be played this season more regular imo for us to score enough goals to get us the point to stay up and bobby reid fits the bill for this imo

Whenever we play three at the back we look lost. The only way to accommodate Reid is if we play two genuine holding players in a 4-2-3-1, but we need Gunnars for that.

I agree. But i think arter and camarassa got to play in midfield, we look a different class team with them in midfield so no way can we change that imo. Gunnars will be way off the pace in the premiership imo

So Ralls Arter holding
A 3 of Camarasa Reid Murphy with Zohore/Medine/Ward up top ?

I thought at the time we had massively overpaid for him and sadly, I have seen nothing that's changed my opinion so far. Coming on at Huddersfield and doing stupid, fancy flicks to easily give possession away, then sh!tting out of a 50/50 with their keeper when through on goal is no help to us whatsoever.

I do wonder if he would have pulled out of that challenge if he was still a Bristol City player. Mendez-Laing was in a similar position early on and threw himself in there, putting his body on the line. That could have created a loose ball and open goal for someone else following up.

However, it's still early days, he is a worker who runs himself into the ground and I still think he will create openings in the final third just by being a nuisance with his high pressing to force opposing defenders into mistakes. Hopefully he can nick a goal soon (he nearly did at Huddersfield to be fair) and that will give him a confidence boost.

To answer the OP's question if we needed him though, I personally think the money should have been better spent on an out and out striker. There won't be many games this season where Warnock will be prepared to sacrifice one of our centre midfielders to play a more attacking system to accommodate Reid, so I worry we have spent 10 million on a player who isn't suited to our favoured system or playing style.

If we signed Troy Deeney for example, I think we would have had a much better chance to win our last 2 games, and be 4 points better off now. Mitrovic also made the difference for Fulham's win over Burnley. We don't have a Premiership quality striker anywhere close to making the difference like that. I worry we are going to play well at home against the bottom half teams, but only draw games we could win. That's going to cost us many more points against the bottom half teams and by the time January comes, we won't be in a very good position to attract the striker we need to keep us up.

I thought at the time we had massively overpaid for him and sadly, I have seen nothing that's changed my opinion so far. Coming on at Huddersfield and doing stupid, fancy flicks to easily give possession away, then sh!tting out of a 50/50 with their keeper when through on goal is no help to us whatsoever.

I do wonder if he would have pulled out of that challenge if he was still a Bristol City player. Mendez-Laing was in a similar position early on and threw himself in there, putting his body on the line. That could have created a loose ball and open goal for someone else following up.

However, it's still early days, he is a worker who runs himself into the ground and I still think he will create openings in the final third just by being a nuisance with his high pressing to force opposing defenders into mistakes. Hopefully he can nick a goal soon (he nearly did at Huddersfield to be fair) and that will give him a confidence boost.

To answer the OP's question if we needed him though, I personally think the money should have been better spent on an out and out striker. There won't be many games this season where Warnock will be prepared to sacrifice one of our centre midfielders to play a more attacking system to accommodate Reid, so I worry we have spent 10 million on a player who isn't suited to our favoured system or playing style.

If we signed Troy Deeney for example, I think we would have had a much better chance to win our last 2 games, and be 4 points better off now. Mitrovic also made the difference for Fulham's win over Burnley. We don't have a Premiership quality striker anywhere close to making the difference like that. I worry we are going to play well at home against the bottom half teams, but only draw games we could win. That's going to cost us many more points against the bottom half teams and by the time January comes, we won't be in a very good position to attract the striker we need to keep us up.

Great post

I thought at the time we had massively overpaid for him and sadly, I have seen nothing that's changed my opinion so far. Coming on at Huddersfield and doing stupid, fancy flicks to easily give possession away, then sh!tting out of a 50/50 with their keeper when through on goal is no help to us whatsoever.

I do wonder if he would have pulled out of that challenge if he was still a Bristol City player. Mendez-Laing was in a similar position early on and threw himself in there, putting his body on the line. That could have created a loose ball and open goal for someone else following up.

However, it's still early days, he is a worker who runs himself into the ground and I still think he will create openings in the final third just by being a nuisance with his high pressing to force opposing defenders into mistakes. Hopefully he can nick a goal soon (he nearly did at Huddersfield to be fair) and that will give him a confidence boost.

To answer the OP's question if we needed him though, I personally think the money should have been better spent on an out and out striker. There won't be many games this season where Warnock will be prepared to sacrifice one of our centre midfielders to play a more attacking system to accommodate Reid, so I worry we have spent 10 million on a player who isn't suited to our favoured system or playing style.

If we signed Troy Deeney for example, I think we would have had a much better chance to win our last 2 games, and be 4 points better off now. Mitrovic also made the difference for Fulham's win over Burnley. We don't have a Premiership quality striker anywhere close to making the difference like that. I worry we are going to play well at home against the bottom half teams, but only draw games we could win. That's going to cost us many more points against the bottom half teams and by the time January comes, we won't be in a very good position to attract the striker we need to keep us up.

Very fair assessment that mate and i fully agree. If say we didnt spend 10 million on reid and we put that money towards a 15-20 million pound striker then we would have beaten huddersfield and newcastle because a quality striker would have converted them chances we had imo, all ifs and buts but thats my opinion, hopefully warnock can find a way to get reid in the team behind he striker because i see us struggling big time to score all season the way we are at the moment

I thought at the time we had massively overpaid for him and sadly, I have seen nothing that's changed my opinion so far. Coming on at Huddersfield and doing stupid, fancy flicks to easily give possession away, then sh!tting out of a 50/50 with their keeper when through on goal is no help to us whatsoever.

I do wonder if he would have pulled out of that challenge if he was still a Bristol City player. Mendez-Laing was in a similar position early on and threw himself in there, putting his body on the line. That could have created a loose ball and open goal for someone else following up.

However, it's still early days, he is a worker who runs himself into the ground and I still think he will create openings in the final third just by being a nuisance with his high pressing to force opposing defenders into mistakes. Hopefully he can nick a goal soon (he nearly did at Huddersfield to be fair) and that will give him a confidence boost.

To answer the OP's question if we needed him though, I personally think the money should have been better spent on an out and out striker. There won't be many games this season where Warnock will be prepared to sacrifice one of our centre midfielders to play a more attacking system to accommodate Reid, so I worry we have spent 10 million on a player who isn't suited to our favoured system or playing style.

If we signed Troy Deeney for example, I think we would have had a much better chance to win our last 2 games, and be 4 points better off now. Mitrovic also made the difference for Fulham's win over Burnley. We don't have a Premiership quality striker anywhere close to making the difference like that. I worry we are going to play well at home against the bottom half teams, but only draw games we could win. That's going to cost us many more points against the bottom half teams and by the time January comes, we won't be in a very good position to attract the striker we need to keep us up.

Very fair assessment that mate and i fully agree. If say we didnt spend 10 million on reid and we put that money towards a 15-20 million pound striker then we would have beaten huddersfield and newcastle because a quality striker would have converted them chances we had imo, all ifs and buts but thats my opinion, hopefully warnock can find a way to get reid in the team behind he striker because i see us struggling big time to score all season the way we are at the moment

15/20 mil striker who like rondom isit who can’t get a barn door for Newcastle go to bed mate.

I thought at the time we had massively overpaid for him and sadly, I have seen nothing that's changed my opinion so far. Coming on at Huddersfield and doing stupid, fancy flicks to easily give possession away, then sh!tting out of a 50/50 with their keeper when through on goal is no help to us whatsoever.

I do wonder if he would have pulled out of that challenge if he was still a Bristol City player. Mendez-Laing was in a similar position early on and threw himself in there, putting his body on the line. That could have created a loose ball and open goal for someone else following up.

However, it's still early days, he is a worker who runs himself into the ground and I still think he will create openings in the final third just by being a nuisance with his high pressing to force opposing defenders into mistakes. Hopefully he can nick a goal soon (he nearly did at Huddersfield to be fair) and that will give him a confidence boost.

To answer the OP's question if we needed him though, I personally think the money should have been better spent on an out and out striker. There won't be many games this season where Warnock will be prepared to sacrifice one of our centre midfielders to play a more attacking system to accommodate Reid, so I worry we have spent 10 million on a player who isn't suited to our favoured system or playing style.

If we signed Troy Deeney for example, I think we would have had a much better chance to win our last 2 games, and be 4 points better off now. Mitrovic also made the difference for Fulham's win over Burnley. We don't have a Premiership quality striker anywhere close to making the difference like that. I worry we are going to play well at home against the bottom half teams, but only draw games we could win. That's going to cost us many more points against the bottom half teams and by the time January comes, we won't be in a very good position to attract the striker we need to keep us up.

Very fair assessment that mate and i fully agree. If say we didnt spend 10 million on reid and we put that money towards a 15-20 million pound striker then we would have beaten huddersfield and newcastle because a quality striker would have converted them chances we had imo, all ifs and buts but thats my opinion, hopefully warnock can find a way to get reid in the team behind he striker because i see us struggling big time to score all season the way we are at the moment

15/20 mil striker who like rondom isit who can’t get a barn door for Newcastle go to bed mate.

Rondon would have buried that header zohore missed v newcastle and would have smashed the ball into the net for the chance danny ward missed. Not saying i would have spent the money on him but he would have been more able to finish them chances than the players we got imo

I thought at the time we had massively overpaid for him and sadly, I have seen nothing that's changed my opinion so far. Coming on at Huddersfield and doing stupid, fancy flicks to easily give possession away, then sh!tting out of a 50/50 with their keeper when through on goal is no help to us whatsoever.

I do wonder if he would have pulled out of that challenge if he was still a Bristol City player. Mendez-Laing was in a similar position early on and threw himself in there, putting his body on the line. That could have created a loose ball and open goal for someone else following up.

However, it's still early days, he is a worker who runs himself into the ground and I still think he will create openings in the final third just by being a nuisance with his high pressing to force opposing defenders into mistakes. Hopefully he can nick a goal soon (he nearly did at Huddersfield to be fair) and that will give him a confidence boost.

To answer the OP's question if we needed him though, I personally think the money should have been better spent on an out and out striker. There won't be many games this season where Warnock will be prepared to sacrifice one of our centre midfielders to play a more attacking system to accommodate Reid, so I worry we have spent 10 million on a player who isn't suited to our favoured system or playing style.

If we signed Troy Deeney for example, I think we would have had a much better chance to win our last 2 games, and be 4 points better off now. Mitrovic also made the difference for Fulham's win over Burnley. We don't have a Premiership quality striker anywhere close to making the difference like that. I worry we are going to play well at home against the bottom half teams, but only draw games we could win. That's going to cost us many more points against the bottom half teams and by the time January comes, we won't be in a very good position to attract the striker we need to keep us up.

Very fair assessment that mate and i fully agree. If say we didnt spend 10 million on reid and we put that money towards a 15-20 million pound striker then we would have beaten huddersfield and newcastle because a quality striker would have converted them chances we had imo, all ifs and buts but thats my opinion, hopefully warnock can find a way to get reid in the team behind he striker because i see us struggling big time to score all season the way we are at the moment

15/20 mil striker who like rondom isit who can’t get a barn door for Newcastle go to bed mate.

Rondon would have buried that header zohore missed v newcastle and would have smashed the ball into the net for the chance danny ward missed. Not saying i would have spent the money on him but he would have been more able to finish them chances than the players we got imo

Have you not seen the sitters he’s missed for Newcastle come on mate serious now all abit of a laugh and a joke but condom is not the answer.

I thought at the time we had massively overpaid for him and sadly, I have seen nothing that's changed my opinion so far. Coming on at Huddersfield and doing stupid, fancy flicks to easily give possession away, then sh!tting out of a 50/50 with their keeper when through on goal is no help to us whatsoever.

I do wonder if he would have pulled out of that challenge if he was still a Bristol City player. Mendez-Laing was in a similar position early on and threw himself in there, putting his body on the line. That could have created a loose ball and open goal for someone else following up.

However, it's still early days, he is a worker who runs himself into the ground and I still think he will create openings in the final third just by being a nuisance with his high pressing to force opposing defenders into mistakes. Hopefully he can nick a goal soon (he nearly did at Huddersfield to be fair) and that will give him a confidence boost.

To answer the OP's question if we needed him though, I personally think the money should have been better spent on an out and out striker. There won't be many games this season where Warnock will be prepared to sacrifice one of our centre midfielders to play a more attacking system to accommodate Reid, so I worry we have spent 10 million on a player who isn't suited to our favoured system or playing style.

If we signed Troy Deeney for example, I think we would have had a much better chance to win our last 2 games, and be 4 points better off now. Mitrovic also made the difference for Fulham's win over Burnley. We don't have a Premiership quality striker anywhere close to making the difference like that. I worry we are going to play well at home against the bottom half teams, but only draw games we could win. That's going to cost us many more points against the bottom half teams and by the time January comes, we won't be in a very good position to attract the striker we need to keep us up.

Very fair assessment that mate and i fully agree. If say we didnt spend 10 million on reid and we put that money towards a 15-20 million pound striker then we would have beaten huddersfield and newcastle because a quality striker would have converted them chances we had imo, all ifs and buts but thats my opinion, hopefully warnock can find a way to get reid in the team behind he striker because i see us struggling big time to score all season the way we are at the moment

15/20 mil striker who like rondom isit who can’t get a barn door for Newcastle go to bed mate.

Rondon would have buried that header zohore missed v newcastle and would have smashed the ball into the net for the chance danny ward missed. Not saying i would have spent the money on him but he would have been more able to finish them chances than the players we got imo

Have you not seen the sitters he’s missed for Newcastle come on mate serious now all abit of a laugh and a joke but condom is not the answer.

Condoms keep you safe mate

I thought at the time we had massively overpaid for him and sadly, I have seen nothing that's changed my opinion so far. Coming on at Huddersfield and doing stupid, fancy flicks to easily give possession away, then sh!tting out of a 50/50 with their keeper when through on goal is no help to us whatsoever.

I do wonder if he would have pulled out of that challenge if he was still a Bristol City player. Mendez-Laing was in a similar position early on and threw himself in there, putting his body on the line. That could have created a loose ball and open goal for someone else following up.

However, it's still early days, he is a worker who runs himself into the ground and I still think he will create openings in the final third just by being a nuisance with his high pressing to force opposing defenders into mistakes. Hopefully he can nick a goal soon (he nearly did at Huddersfield to be fair) and that will give him a confidence boost.

To answer the OP's question if we needed him though, I personally think the money should have been better spent on an out and out striker. There won't be many games this season where Warnock will be prepared to sacrifice one of our centre midfielders to play a more attacking system to accommodate Reid, so I worry we have spent 10 million on a player who isn't suited to our favoured system or playing style.

If we signed Troy Deeney for example, I think we would have had a much better chance to win our last 2 games, and be 4 points better off now. Mitrovic also made the difference for Fulham's win over Burnley. We don't have a Premiership quality striker anywhere close to making the difference like that. I worry we are going to play well at home against the bottom half teams, but only draw games we could win. That's going to cost us many more points against the bottom half teams and by the time January comes, we won't be in a very good position to attract the striker we need to keep us up.

Very fair assessment that mate and i fully agree. If say we didnt spend 10 million on reid and we put that money towards a 15-20 million pound striker then we would have beaten huddersfield and newcastle because a quality striker would have converted them chances we had imo, all ifs and buts but thats my opinion, hopefully warnock can find a way to get reid in the team behind he striker because i see us struggling big time to score all season the way we are at the moment

15/20 mil striker who like rondom isit who can’t get a barn door for Newcastle go to bed mate.

Rondon would have buried that header zohore missed v newcastle and would have smashed the ball into the net for the chance danny ward missed. Not saying i would have spent the money on him but he would have been more able to finish them chances than the players we got imo

Have you not seen the sitters he’s missed for Newcastle come on mate serious now all abit of a laugh and a joke but condom is not the answer.

Condoms keep you safe mate

True I’d prefer a condom than rondom that’s fo sho