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The brutal national media verdict on Cardiff's 'undeniably

Sun Aug 26, 2018 12:57 pm

The brutal national media verdict on Cardiff City's 'undeniably dreadful' draw with Huddersfield Town


Sunday 26th August 2018

Cardiff City claimed a point on the road although they remain without a win or a goal in the Premier League following their 0-0 draw with Huddersfield Town at the John Smith's Stadium.





Here's what the national media had to say about the game.



Mail on Sunday

There was an argument for relegating this joyless stalemate from last slot on Match of the Day to whichever obscure channel it is that the EFL highlights are now housed.

For on the evidence of this tedious contest - brightened only by the colour of the red card shown to Huddersfield's Jonathan Hogg - it is the Championship where this pair will be playing next season.

No goalless draw is particularly good - both teams having failed in the fundamental aim of the game - but this was undeniably dreadful.

The best performance of the afternoon was that of referee Michael Oliver, who, after taking guidance from his assistant, correctly dismissed midfielder Hogg when he used a combination of head and hand to force Harry Arter to the floor after a scuffle from a corner midway through the second half.







Independent

Jonathan Hogg was sent off following an ugly collision with Harry Arter as Huddersfield and Cardiff ground out a goalless draw that did little to advertise their Premier League pedigree.

Both sides are tipped as relegation candidates and if this was really the earliest imaginable 'six-pointer' of the season then taking one apiece suggests a long, hard campaign could be on the way for David Wagner and Neil Warnock.

Hogg saw red just after the hour, aggravated by Arter but responding boorishly - first pushing forward with his head then shoving the midfielder to the ground.

That gave Cardiff time to press for a win which had never previously seemed likely, but they proved no more able than their hosts to summon a cutting edge worthy of the top flight.







Daily Star

Decked out in t-shirt and shorts he was more like a caged tiger than someone equipped for an afternoon out enjoying the Yorkshire sunshine.

He was left wondering how his side couldn’t capitalise on Huddersfield skipper Jonathan Hogg’s 61st minute sending off in a shocking encounter which was stitched on to be last on BBC TV’s ‘Match Of The Day.’

Even in an embryonic season nerves are already starting to fray and any perceived coolness goes hurtling out of the window with few pundits giving Cardiff or Huddersfield much chance of escaping relegation.





The Sunday Times

The match, though not very entertaining until the final 20 minutes, was played with full commitment.

Cardiff winger Nathaniel Mendez-Laing paid a heavy price for his determination, carried off on a stretcher after a nasty early collision with Huddersfield goalkeeper Ben Hamer as they challenged for a 50-50 ball. Hamer had to be replaced three minutes later.

Huddersfield’s build-up was too often ponderous, as if they were waiting for Cardiff to open the door for them.

They took 52 minutes to manage an effort on target, as Kongolo got free down the left to cross, and Steve Mounie rose at the far post to direct a downward header that was pushed away by Neil Etheridge.


Huddersfield 0-0 Cardiff City

Hogg’s dismissal, soon afterwards, more or less ended any hopes of victory.

Indeed, even after Ward and Morrison went close, Bobby Reid could have won the game for Cardiff, steering wide from seven yards.
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Re: The brutal national media verdict on Cardiff's 'undeniab

Sun Aug 26, 2018 1:06 pm

That all sums up perfectly how I saw it yesterday and, like Neil, I made the mistake of wearing T shirt and shorts; brrr .....it was bloody cold up the Khyber.
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Re: The brutal national media verdict on Cardiff's 'undeniab

Sun Aug 26, 2018 1:06 pm

I'm learning to ignore these comments . After 3 games we have the same number of points as Wolves which makes them just as likely for relegation as us. but they don't get the negative comments.

Clean sheets are what will keep us (and possibly Huddersfield) in the Premier League. The media want to make us an anti-football scapegoat without realising that virtually every other team in the bottom half of the table plays the same way. I'm waiting for the furore when we draw 0-0 with Arsenal next week which will undoubtedly be as a result of Arsenal's failings rather than our superior defensive skills.

Re: The brutal national media verdict on Cardiff's 'undeniab

Sun Aug 26, 2018 1:20 pm

Shame really. Because a few pundits have started to appreciate what we are doing. And that is a foundation of a rock solid defence and building from that. Hasn't done Burnley or Huddersfield or Everton (end of last year) any harm! Yes it's not pretty and doesn't suit their agenda of pretty football (Fulham are trying this, good luck to them... Not!), but it is effective and that's all we need to be to stay in this league.

Can't wait to prove all these 'experts' wrong!

Re: The brutal national media verdict on Cardiff's 'undeniab

Sun Aug 26, 2018 1:36 pm

The media were not very complimentary to us last season either. Stopped paying attention to what the papers and pundits think years ago.

Re: The brutal national media verdict on Cardiff's 'undeniab

Sun Aug 26, 2018 1:44 pm

Best way Steve.

Re: The brutal national media verdict on Cardiff's 'undeniab

Sun Aug 26, 2018 1:46 pm

I will save judgement on the team at the moment, we are 3 games in a new league with 2 points and out of the relegation zone, so hard to criticise yet, if we are 10 games in, say 3/4 points and bottom of the league, then maybe we can judge, but at the minute we are doing fine.

Re: The brutal national media verdict on Cardiff's 'undeniab

Sun Aug 26, 2018 1:52 pm

Quite happy to read all this. We are on a mission to prove everyone wrong. We have given them a lot of ammunition to have a dig at us. Small budget squad with hardly any Premier quality there. It's all set up for us to return to the Championship.

Of course now its all got to happen. 2 clean sheets says it might not happen the way they think it will.

Re: The brutal national media verdict on Cardiff's 'undeniab

Sun Aug 26, 2018 2:13 pm

Who cares what they say ,I don't

Re: The brutal national media verdict on Cardiff's 'undeniab

Sun Aug 26, 2018 2:27 pm

That’s the same number of points as wolves who needed a maradonna moment to scrape a draw.

I’m happy with how we are progressing. We have a solid base and have a new midfield combination that will greadually gel together. It’s too early to panic. Palace have lost 2! We just keep chipping away

Re: The brutal national media verdict on Cardiff's 'undeniab

Sun Aug 26, 2018 2:55 pm

I think most of media talk about us and a few others is correct. We are poor compared to the rest. But what they should be talking about is the concerning gulf in class between the championship and the premier league now. It was not so evident 5 years ago.
The amount of money chucked into the premier league and not filtered through the lower divisions has made it pretty much impossible to compete anymore without spending £100mill + and risking the future of the club.
That is not right and it needs sorting out before it is too late.it has got to a point where most clubs only want promotion to win the parachute payments not actually be able to compete in a higher league.

Re: The brutal national media verdict on Cardiff's 'undeniab

Sun Aug 26, 2018 3:02 pm

Im all for positivity, and grinding out points is to be our way this season, but i wouldn't draw comparisons with Wolves. From what I've seen of them, they do seem to be a tidy outfit, painful as it is to say so.

Re: The brutal national media verdict on Cardiff's 'undeniab

Sun Aug 26, 2018 3:23 pm

Magic Rat wrote:Im all for positivity, and grinding out points is to be our way this season, but i wouldn't draw comparisons with Wolves. From what I've seen of them, they do seem to be a tidy outfit, painful as it is to say so.




There's no comparison wolves owners have ambitions to be new man c and have the money and infeunce of agent mendez to do this . But got to be happy with our lot because future is brightest its been in years :thumbup:

Re: The brutal national media verdict on Cardiff's 'undeniab

Sun Aug 26, 2018 3:34 pm

Don’t agree that there is a gulf between the bottom of the Premier League and the Top of the Championship. All the promoted teams last year stayed in the Premier League whereas the three relegated teams struggled in the Championship and one was relegated!
However I agree that money difference between the two leagues is ridiculous but the most important thing to stay in the top league is good management within your budget?

Re: The brutal national media verdict on Cardiff's 'undeniab

Sun Aug 26, 2018 3:54 pm

HarriRhys22 wrote:Don’t agree that there is a gulf between the bottom of the Premier League and the Top of the Championship. All the promoted teams last year stayed in the Premier League whereas the three relegated teams struggled in the Championship and one was relegated!
However I agree that money difference between the two leagues is ridiculous but the most important thing to stay in the top league is good management within your budget?


The gulf is massive and getting bigger every year.
There is not 1 team in the championship this season who would stay up in the premier league next season without spending close to £100mill on players. That was never the case before.
On the other side i would bet every team in this years premier league to finish top 2 in the championship next season if they keep the squads together including us.

Last season was a bit of a freak season given that there were 3 clubs in West brom, Swansea and Stoke who just fell apart both on and off the field allowing the promoted teams to stay up.

Re: The brutal national media verdict on Cardiff's 'undeniab

Sun Aug 26, 2018 4:07 pm

We r tryers and grafters ,ok not pretty but our team will keep at it ,the media have made it an issue,like Harry Kane couldn't score in August .......

Re: The brutal national media verdict on Cardiff's 'undeniab

Sun Aug 26, 2018 4:51 pm

I don't expect us to stay up with our squad... it is what it is ain't brought enough in simple. I am just enjoying it while it lasts.2 out of 3 teams we played are predicted for the drop. They both down to 10 men and we couldn't score.. yesterday's game summed it up

Re: The brutal national media verdict on Cardiff's 'undeniab

Mon Aug 27, 2018 9:37 am

bluebird58 wrote:I'm learning to ignore these comments . After 3 games we have the same number of points as Wolves which makes them just as likely for relegation as us. but they don't get the negative comments.

Clean sheets are what will keep us (and possibly Huddersfield) in the Premier League. The media want to make us an anti-football scapegoat without realising that virtually every other team in the bottom half of the table plays the same way. I'm waiting for the furore when we draw 0-0 with Arsenal next week which will undoubtedly be as a result of Arsenal's failings rather than our superior defensive skills.


Spot on.

We might as get used to it because it's the same journalistic huberis which makes it impossible to accept that electoral success for Donald Trump or Brexit has happened . We live in an age of self appointed experts who like to define what is acceptable for the masses and even predict the future from their ivory towers.
In the world of reality both the events I mentioned there took place and during roughly the same period Cardiff City were progressing from being written off as a championship team to automatic promotion and so far doing better than some other teams ,( including the media's beloved Fulham), in the Premiership.

They're just NOT having it though, are they ? -and there's a simple explanation for that. It's because there are two alternatives which apply to these situations and so many other of their ridiculous empty dogmas - either they aren't really happening or these pencil necked little tossers in the political/cultural elite don't know what the f##k they're talking about !

Thus we know what they will continue to say on this and pretty much everything in the world which conflicts with their own vision of a yogurt knitting, sandal wearing ,borderless paradise in which they dictate reality to the other 60 million people in the country and we all pretend they're clever.

Re: The brutal national media verdict on Cardiff's 'undeniab

Mon Aug 27, 2018 10:45 am

pembroke allan wrote:
Magic Rat wrote:Im all for positivity, and grinding out points is to be our way this season, but i wouldn't draw comparisons with Wolves. From what I've seen of them, they do seem to be a tidy outfit, painful as it is to say so.




There's no comparison wolves owners have ambitions to be new man c and have the money and infeunce of agent mendez to do this . But got to be happy with our lot because future is brightest its been in years :thumbup:


Most sensible post on here Allan. You're right; Wolves owners have ambitions to be the new Man City and our owner wants to sell the club as soon as he can.

Re: The brutal national media verdict on Cardiff's 'undeniab

Mon Aug 27, 2018 11:56 am

SirJimmySchoular wrote:
bluebird58 wrote:I'm learning to ignore these comments . After 3 games we have the same number of points as Wolves which makes them just as likely for relegation as us. but they don't get the negative comments.

Clean sheets are what will keep us (and possibly Huddersfield) in the Premier League. The media want to make us an anti-football scapegoat without realising that virtually every other team in the bottom half of the table plays the same way. I'm waiting for the furore when we draw 0-0 with Arsenal next week which will undoubtedly be as a result of Arsenal's failings rather than our superior defensive skills.


Spot on.

We might as get used to it because it's the same journalistic huberis which makes it impossible to accept that electoral success for Donald Trump or Brexit has happened . We live in an age of self appointed experts who like to define what is acceptable for the masses and even predict the future from their ivory towers.
In the world of reality both the events I mentioned there took place and during roughly the same period Cardiff City were progressing from being written off as a championship team to automatic promotion and so far doing better than some other teams ,( including the media's beloved Fulham), in the Premiership.

They're just NOT having it though, are they ? -and there's a simple explanation for that. It's because there are two alternatives which apply to these situations and so many other of their ridiculous empty dogmas - either they aren't really happening or these pencil necked little tossers in the political/cultural elite don't know what the f##k they're talking about !

Thus we know what they will continue to say on this and pretty much everything in the world which conflicts with their own vision of a yogurt knitting, sandal wearing ,borderless paradise in which they dictate reality to the other 60 million people in the country and we all pretend they're clever.










Not a happy man are you Sir Jim !

Re: The brutal national media verdict on Cardiff's 'undeniab

Mon Aug 27, 2018 12:00 pm

MoodyBluebird wrote:
SirJimmySchoular wrote:
bluebird58 wrote:I'm learning to ignore these comments . After 3 games we have the same number of points as Wolves which makes them just as likely for relegation as us. but they don't get the negative comments.

Clean sheets are what will keep us (and possibly Huddersfield) in the Premier League. The media want to make us an anti-football scapegoat without realising that virtually every other team in the bottom half of the table plays the same way. I'm waiting for the furore when we draw 0-0 with Arsenal next week which will undoubtedly be as a result of Arsenal's failings rather than our superior defensive skills.


Spot on.

We might as get used to it because it's the same journalistic huberis which makes it impossible to accept that electoral success for Donald Trump or Brexit has happened . We live in an age of self appointed experts who like to define what is acceptable for the masses and even predict the future from their ivory towers.
In the world of reality both the events I mentioned there took place and during roughly the same period Cardiff City were progressing from being written off as a championship team to automatic promotion and so far doing better than some other teams ,( including the media's beloved Fulham), in the Premiership.

They're just NOT having it though, are they ? -and there's a simple explanation for that. It's because there are two alternatives which apply to these situations and so many other of their ridiculous empty dogmas - either they aren't really happening or these pencil necked little tossers in the political/cultural elite don't know what the f##k they're talking about !

Thus we know what they will continue to say on this and pretty much everything in the world which conflicts with their own vision of a yogurt knitting, sandal wearing ,borderless paradise in which they dictate reality to the other 60 million people in the country and we all pretend they're clever.










Not a happy man are you Sir Jim ![/quol

:lol: and what's wrong with yoghurt knitting?

Re: The brutal national media verdict on Cardiff's 'undeniab

Mon Aug 27, 2018 12:43 pm

In truth, I suspect the majority of fans on here would love our team to be the recipient of plaudits nationwide for the quality of football they play but with NW at the helm and sensible financial management now in place this was never likely to happen. No way was Tan going to chase a dream as the owners of Wolves and Fulham are doing.

Football reporters can only comment on the fare put before them, so is it any wonder that they are somewhat less than complimentary about the style and quality of this Cardiff City team.

As fans we just have to take it on the chin or ignore it. As an earlier poster said, it is what it is.

Without a radical change to the managerial and coaching set-up, we are never going to be media darlings, so for now we've got to support the man that got us where we are and develop a thicker skin when barbs come our way.