Vincent Tan keeping money for January?

Are Neil Warnock and Tan Sri Vincent Tan keeping some of our budget and money back with january window in mind?

Are they gambling and going with what we got striker wise before having to spend big money on one? If we need one in january then maybe they're keeping reserves back? Be interesting to see.

Or maybe one of Zohore/Reid/Madine or Ward will just come out of nowhere and start banging quite a few goals in? Can't see it myself but here's hoping

Is warnock and tan keeping some of our budget and money back with january window in mind? Are they gambling and going with what we got striker wise before having to spend big money on one? If we need one in january then maybe their keeping reserves back, ne interesting to see, or maybe one of zohore/reid/madine/ward will just come out of nowhere and start banging quite a few goals in, cant see it myself but heres hoping

thought Zohore had a very good game bar the header last Saturday and dont think anybody on that list would do better the way we play...in fact some wouldnt have made the crowd let alone the team..

I doubt it and I hope not.

By the next window half of the season will be over and if we are in the bottom three we're going to need a striker who can hit the ground running and get around 10 goals in the second half of the season.

Not only are they almost impossible to find, why would they come to a club likely to be relegated who seem to have a fairly rigid pay structure in place?

The difficulties we seem to have had in signing players over the summer would only get worse I think if we are in the bottom three when the January window opens.

I doubt it, with inflated prices in January it wouldn't really make any sense. I'm guessing the January budget depends on where we are and how we are doing come Jan.

We will never find a 15+ goalscorer and nor do we need to. The secret to us staying up is going to be a tight defence and everyone chipping in with goals. In that respect we are quite well off as outside of our out and out strikers we have Hoillett, Murphy, Reid, Patterson, NML and Morrison who all scored more than a few last year. If these can score little more than half of what they got last year we can stay up.

We will never find a 15+ goalscorer and nor do we need to. The secret to us staying up is going to be a tight defence and everyone chipping in with goals. In that respect we are quite well off as outside of our out and out strikers we have Hoillett, Murphy, Reid, Patterson, NML and Morrison who all scored more than a few last year. If these can score little more than half of what they got last year we can stay up.

Hope this materialises.

Relying on a striker coming in January is a risk.

We will never find a 15+ goalscorer and nor do we need to. The secret to us staying up is going to be a tight defence and everyone chipping in with goals. In that respect we are quite well off as outside of our out and out strikers we have Hoillett, Murphy, Reid, Patterson, NML and Morrison who all scored more than a few last year. If these can score little more than half of what they got last year we can stay up.

I agree with you post mostly, tight defence and players chipping in will be key to survival, but a striker is key too in this league more than last year because we will have limited chances and when they arise our striker who will have the most chances NEEDS to put them away. Zohore hasent proven to be a clinical finisher or any of our other strikers, reid can do it but hes not an out an out striker, we would have had a better chance of staying up with a clinical finisher signed, in january we might need one

Vincent Tan keeping money for January?

I hope he is just keeping the money !!


I think this season would have been brutal if we were not promoted. Be prudent and have a strong club for he next decade is the priority for me. Two years ago we were heading for league 1 from poor financial decisions two years earlier.

Maybe a loan if we are lucky, but for that to be successful we'd have to be very lucky.

Vincent Tan keeping money for January?

I hope he is just keeping the money !!


I think this season would have been brutal if we were not promoted. Be prudent and have a strong club for he next decade is the priority for me. Two years ago we were heading for league 1 from poor financial decisions two years earlier.

Maybe a loan if we are lucky, but for that to be successful we'd have to be very lucky.

We will be a lot stronger club in the future commercially and financially and from a football perspective if we are in the premier league for years to come and not the championship. You need to invest to get the quality to do that and we have invested peanuts at the moment compared to a lot of clubs, one quality striker is not going to send the club bust

I simply cannot understand how Warnock failed to sign a striker in the 11 week window!! Zohore struggled to score goals in the Championship and Madine couldn't hit a barn door from 2 feet. I can see Etheridge scoring before both of them, and despite all of his positive attributes, Mr Warnock has made a massive error. It could be too late to correct by January!!

Vincent Tan keeping money for January?

I hope he is just keeping the money !!


I think this season would have been brutal if we were not promoted. Be prudent and have a strong club for he next decade is the priority for me. Two years ago we were heading for league 1 from poor financial decisions two years earlier.

Maybe a loan if we are lucky, but for that to be successful we'd have to be very lucky.

We will be a lot stronger club in the future commercially and financially and from a football perspective if we are in the premier league for years to come and not the championship. You need to invest to get the quality to do that and we have invested peanuts at the moment compared to a lot of clubs, one quality striker is not going to send the club bust

Totally agree. Yes we have debts but 24m spent when you have approx 120m coming in is not going to break the bank. Add on top of that a proven striker for 15-18m and it still wouldn’t break the bank. Many seem fixated that the club is going to go bust even though it is being run sensibly. The dark days are behind us and a small investment to try and secure your Premiership status may pay dividends and debts would be put into history. There is 100-150m to be had every season.

I simply cannot understand how Warnock failed to sign a striker in the 11 week window!! Zohore struggled to score goals in the Championship and Madine couldn't hit a barn door from 2 feet. I can see Etheridge scoring before both of them, and despite all of his positive attributes, Mr Warnock has made a massive error. It could be too late to correct by January!!

Spot on i feel the exact same. Unless reid is found a space in the team to play off a striker then its looking pretty dire in scoring goals imo. Crazy how something which was so glaringly obvious (warnock even made that clear by constantly saying he wanted a new striker) was ignored.

Vincent Tan keeping money for January?

I hope he is just keeping the money !!


I think this season would have been brutal if we were not promoted. Be prudent and have a strong club for he next decade is the priority for me. Two years ago we were heading for league 1 from poor financial decisions two years earlier.

Maybe a loan if we are lucky, but for that to be successful we'd have to be very lucky.

We will be a lot stronger club in the future commercially and financially and from a football perspective if we are in the premier league for years to come and not the championship. You need to invest to get the quality to do that and we have invested peanuts at the moment compared to a lot of clubs, one quality striker is not going to send the club bust

Totally agree. Yes we have debts but 24m spent when you have approx 120m coming in is not going to break the bank. Add on top of that a proven striker for 15-18m and it still wouldn’t break the bank. Many seem fixated that the club is going to go bust even though it is being run sensibly. The dark days are behind us and a small investment to try and secure your Premiership status may pay dividends and debts would be put into history. There is 100-150m to be had every season.

Yes and people are so naive to think that we will be able to just get relegated and bounce back no problem because we have signed players with “the future” in mind. Dont work like that not as easy any more as it was years ago

Vincent Tan keeping money for January?

I hope he is just keeping the money !!


I think this season would have been brutal if we were not promoted. Be prudent and have a strong club for he next decade is the priority for me. Two years ago we were heading for league 1 from poor financial decisions two years earlier.

Maybe a loan if we are lucky, but for that to be successful we'd have to be very lucky.

We will be a lot stronger club in the future commercially and financially and from a football perspective if we are in the premier league for years to come and not the championship. You need to invest to get the quality to do that and we have invested peanuts at the moment compared to a lot of clubs, one quality striker is not going to send the club bust

Totally agree. Yes we have debts but 24m spent when you have approx 120m coming in is not going to break the bank. Add on top of that a proven striker for 15-18m and it still wouldn’t break the bank. Many seem fixated that the club is going to go bust even though it is being run sensibly. The dark days are behind us and a small investment to try and secure your Premiership status may pay dividends and debts would be put into history. There is 100-150m to be had every season.

Yes and people are so naive to think that we will be able to just get relegated and bounce back no problem because we have signed players with “the future” in mind. Dont work like that not as easy any more as it was years ago

Everything is relative though. There is more money available now than the last time we were here, and as a result you have to splash out more on buying quality, and splash out more again on even bigger inflated wages. Not sure what the current debt is, but I expect if you add it to what we have spent on players, their wages plus general club running costs, I doubt if there is much, possibly nothing left of the money we will receive this year. The PL was awash with money on our previous visit, we spent big, ended up rock bottom and are still writing off those debts today. We need another striker, but it is a fine balancing act given the fact we are still recovering from our last PL experience.

Vincent Tan keeping money for January?

I hope he is just keeping the money !!


I think this season would have been brutal if we were not promoted. Be prudent and have a strong club for he next decade is the priority for me. Two years ago we were heading for league 1 from poor financial decisions two years earlier.

Maybe a loan if we are lucky, but for that to be successful we'd have to be very lucky.

We will be a lot stronger club in the future commercially and financially and from a football perspective if we are in the premier league for years to come and not the championship. You need to invest to get the quality to do that and we have invested peanuts at the moment compared to a lot of clubs, one quality striker is not going to send the club bust

Totally agree. Yes we have debts but 24m spent when you have approx 120m coming in is not going to break the bank. Add on top of that a proven striker for 15-18m and it still wouldn’t break the bank. Many seem fixated that the club is going to go bust even though it is being run sensibly. The dark days are behind us and a small investment to try and secure your Premiership status may pay dividends and debts would be put into history. There is 100-150m to be had every season.

Yes and people are so naive to think that we will be able to just get relegated and bounce back no problem because we have signed players with “the future” in mind. Dont work like that not as easy any more as it was years ago

Did start a thread earlier in the week about the exact same “No Easy Premiership Return”. Using Stoke as an example I mentioned the fact that it appears many City fans believe that if we are relegated we have such a strong squad we will go straight back up, the yo yo effect doesn’t exist. Just look all of the ex Premier League clubs in the Championship. It’s the hardest Division to get out of. Once in the Premier League the club should give it a good go to stay there and I can’t understand how so many fans seem confident that we woukd go straight back up. Stoke only got their first win yesterday (5th game) and they had a huge squad and spent a lot more that City in the transfer window. It is not a give me. Once in the top flight let’s make sure that we stay there.

Vincent Tan keeping money for January?

I hope he is just keeping the money !!


I think this season would have been brutal if we were not promoted. Be prudent and have a strong club for he next decade is the priority for me. Two years ago we were heading for league 1 from poor financial decisions two years earlier.

Maybe a loan if we are lucky, but for that to be successful we'd have to be very lucky.

We will be a lot stronger club in the future commercially and financially and from a football perspective if we are in the premier league for years to come and not the championship. You need to invest to get the quality to do that and we have invested peanuts at the moment compared to a lot of clubs, one quality striker is not going to send the club bust

Totally agree. Yes we have debts but 24m spent when you have approx 120m coming in is not going to break the bank. Add on top of that a proven striker for 15-18m and it still wouldn’t break the bank. Many seem fixated that the club is going to go bust even though it is being run sensibly. The dark days are behind us and a small investment to try and secure your Premiership status may pay dividends and debts would be put into history. There is 100-150m to be had every season.

Yes and people are so naive to think that we will be able to just get relegated and bounce back no problem because we have signed players with “the future” in mind. Dont work like that not as easy any more as it was years ago

Did start a thread earlier in the week about the exact same “No Easy Premiership Return”. Using Stoke as an example I mentioned the fact that it appears many City fans believe that if we are relegated we have such a strong squad we will go straight back up, the yo yo effect doesn’t exist. Just look all of the ex Premier League clubs in the Championship. It’s the hardest Division to get out of. Once in the Premier League the club should give it a good go to stay there and I can’t understand how so many fans seem confident that we woukd go straight back up. Stoke only got their first win yesterday (5th game) and they had a huge squad and spent a lot more that City in the transfer window. It is not a give me. Once in the top flight let’s make sure that we stay there.

Nothing wrong with what you say, but if all 20 clubs do exactly this, it is 100% guaranteed that three are going to run into big problems, and may even spend decades messing around in the lower leagues repaying huge debts as a result of their gamble not paying off. Like you say, there is no easy return whichever approach you take, but a good business is usually the one with long term plans in place, and a contingency plan in the event the worst happens. Do you put all your eggs in one basket with a sort of boom or bust approach, or do you ensure we will still have the financial ability to at least mount a promotion challenge if we go down. Leeds are probably a good example of a massive club who gambled and failed. I can see both sides of this debate, and it can't be an easy decision for a club owner, particularly as he is the one with most to lose or gain.

Vincent Tan keeping money for January?

I hope he is just keeping the money !!


I think this season would have been brutal if we were not promoted. Be prudent and have a strong club for he next decade is the priority for me. Two years ago we were heading for league 1 from poor financial decisions two years earlier.

Maybe a loan if we are lucky, but for that to be successful we'd have to be very lucky.

We will be a lot stronger club in the future commercially and financially and from a football perspective if we are in the premier league for years to come and not the championship. You need to invest to get the quality to do that and we have invested peanuts at the moment compared to a lot of clubs, one quality striker is not going to send the club bust

Totally agree. Yes we have debts but 24m spent when you have approx 120m coming in is not going to break the bank. Add on top of that a proven striker for 15-18m and it still wouldn’t break the bank. Many seem fixated that the club is going to go bust even though it is being run sensibly. The dark days are behind us and a small investment to try and secure your Premiership status may pay dividends and debts would be put into history. There is 100-150m to be had every season.

Yes and people are so naive to think that we will be able to just get relegated and bounce back no problem because we have signed players with “the future” in mind. Dont work like that not as easy any more as it was years ago

Did start a thread earlier in the week about the exact same “No Easy Premiership Return”. Using Stoke as an example I mentioned the fact that it appears many City fans believe that if we are relegated we have such a strong squad we will go straight back up, the yo yo effect doesn’t exist. Just look all of the ex Premier League clubs in the Championship. It’s the hardest Division to get out of. Once in the Premier League the club should give it a good go to stay there and I can’t understand how so many fans seem confident that we woukd go straight back up. Stoke only got their first win yesterday (5th game) and they had a huge squad and spent a lot more that City in the transfer window. It is not a give me. Once in the top flight let’s make sure that we stay there.

Nothing wrong with what you say, but if all 20 clubs do exactly this, it is 100% guaranteed that three are going to run into big problems, and may even spend decades messing around in the lower leagues repaying huge debts as a result of their gamble not paying off. Like you say, there is no easy return whichever approach you take, but a good business is usually the one with long term plans in place, and a contingency plan in the event the worst happens. Do you put all your eggs in one basket with a sort of boom or bust approach, or do you ensure we will still have the financial ability to at least mount a promotion challenge if we go down. Leeds are probably a good example of a massive club who gambled and failed. I can see both sides of this debate, and it can't be an easy decision for a club owner, particularly as he is the one with most to lose or gain.

Like I have said many times I think that’s it’s a fine balancing act. Many fans still have in their memory the bad days of debt and can’t seem to get that out of the system. Thanks to Tan & the board we are in a better financial position now than we have been for a very long time. I am not a gambler however I can see that spending 35-45m in the summer would have given us a great chance to stay up. With that 100-150m again next season and so on. Need to survive that first year and then invest wisely for the following years without overspending, you establish yourself as a Premiership club and debts are put into history. We spent 24m. We all know that we needed to strengthen up top. Many of the other bottom half clubs did bring in a striker. Some fans even think that we will score enough goals through our midfield without needing another striker.
City will probably get approx 120m for getting promoted, 24m spent plus wages/fees etc leaves a bit of scope to chip away at the debt (whatever the exact figure is left) and try to survive. You get one shot at it and that’s why Wolves & Fulham have gone extreme. I don’t think that we should spend anywhere near to what they have spent however it would be a shame to get relegated again after 1 season without giving it a proper go. I think come January the club will try to bring in a striker whether permanent or a loan but by then many strikers have been sold/out on loan and then you have to attract them if we are in a relegation scrap. I do have confidence in the club to do the right thing. I just hope that having NW worked miracles last year on a shoestring budget they think he can work the same magic this season on an equivalent budget. If money is available then bring in a striker in January.

Are Neil Warnock and Tan Sri Vincent Tan keeping some of our budget and money back with january window in mind?

Are they gambling and going with what we got striker wise before having to spend big money on one? If we need one in january then maybe they're keeping reserves back? Be interesting to see.

Or maybe one of Zohore/Reid/Madine or Ward will just come out of nowhere and start banging quite a few goals in? Can't see it myself but here's hoping

No I think he's keeping the money. January will be too late anyway and it's not a great market to do business in as we found last season.

Glad to see vinny at the game saturday shouting shoot shoot "who" the manager, he can see for himself what we are up against, and its a brick wall, but looking forward to every game to come this season

I think Tan will just keep the money

I think Tan will just keep the money

I think he wants to balance the books and make us a good proposition to sell. Trouble is though he will get a lot more money and a lot more chance selling us as a premier league club so makes more sense in keeping us there imo

Vincent Tan keeping money for January?

I hope he is just keeping the money !!


I think this season would have been brutal if we were not promoted. Be prudent and have a strong club for he next decade is the priority for me. Two years ago we were heading for league 1 from poor financial decisions two years earlier.

Maybe a loan if we are lucky, but for that to be successful we'd have to be very lucky.

We will be a lot stronger club in the future commercially and financially and from a football perspective if we are in the premier league for years to come and not the championship. You need to invest to get the quality to do that and we have invested peanuts at the moment compared to a lot of clubs, one quality striker is not going to send the club bust

Totally clueless

Vincent Tan keeping money for January?

I hope he is just keeping the money !!


I think this season would have been brutal if we were not promoted. Be prudent and have a strong club for he next decade is the priority for me. Two years ago we were heading for league 1 from poor financial decisions two years earlier.

Maybe a loan if we are lucky, but for that to be successful we'd have to be very lucky.

We will be a lot stronger club in the future commercially and financially and from a football perspective if we are in the premier league for years to come and not the championship. You need to invest to get the quality to do that and we have invested peanuts at the moment compared to a lot of clubs, one quality striker is not going to send the club bust

Totally clueless

Ambition is f*cking critical Tony take your head out youre arse

Vincent Tan keeping money for January?

I hope he is just keeping the money !!


I think this season would have been brutal if we were not promoted. Be prudent and have a strong club for he next decade is the priority for me. Two years ago we were heading for league 1 from poor financial decisions two years earlier.

Maybe a loan if we are lucky, but for that to be successful we'd have to be very lucky.

We will be a lot stronger club in the future commercially and financially and from a football perspective if we are in the premier league for years to come and not the championship. You need to invest to get the quality to do that and we have invested peanuts at the moment compared to a lot of clubs, one quality striker is not going to send the club bust

Totally clueless

Ambition is f*cking critical Tony take your head out youre arse

I agree with Tony. This club is about more than just this one season. Gamble and lose and it could be a long time before we have any kind of success again. Whatever happens, some clubs are going to have spent big and still end up in the Championship next season. We know, we did it ourselves recently.