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" No Easy Premiership Return "

Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:21 am

" No Easy Premiership Return "


I am surprised by the numbers of City fans that will accept relegation without giving the Premier League a right go. Many just say that we are building a team that will get us straight back up if/when we are relegated. I rather see City give it a go rather than rely on getting straight back up. We should fight all the way to stay up because if you do stay up there are huge financial rewards every season.

Just look at Stoke and the squad they have. Had a Premiership squad and have added a lot more players in the transfer window. Bookies odds on favourites to go straight back up. Where are they? Played 4 with no victories and in the bottom 3! No team has a right to go back up and it will be the same for any team relegated this season from the Premiership. There is no such thing is ‘having a strong squad/building to go straight back up or the yo yo effect’. The Championship is the hardest Division to get out of.

We are in the Premier League let’s make sure that we stay there. :thumbright: :bluebird:

Re: " No Easy Premiership Return "

Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:25 am

bridgendbluebird30 wrote:" No Easy Premiership Return "


I am surprised by the numbers of City fans that will accept relegation without giving the Premier League a right go. Many just say that we are building a team that will get us straight back up if/when we are relegated. I rather see City give it a go rather than rely on getting straight back up. We should fight all the way to stay up because if you do stay up there are huge financial rewards every season.

Just look at Stoke and the squad they have. Had a Premiership squad and have added a lot more players in the transfer window. Bookies odds on favourites to go straight back up. Where are they? Played 4 with no victories and in the bottom 3! No team has a right to go back up and it will be the same for any team relegated this season from the Premiership. There is no such thing is ‘having a strong squad/building to go straight back up or the yo yo effect’. The Championship is the hardest Division to get out of.

We are in the Premier League let’s make sure that we stay there. :thumbright: :bluebird:

Great post :thumbup:

Re: " No Easy Premiership Return "

Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:57 am

Totally agree.

Re: " No Easy Premiership Return "

Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:44 am

I'm yet to see a post from anyone saying let's roll over and let everyone smash us every week. A few people may have said that if relegated we will be in a better place than last time, but not that they actually 'want' us to go down!!

Of course we're going to give it a go!!!

Re: " No Easy Premiership Return "

Thu Aug 23, 2018 1:34 pm

bridgendbluebird30 wrote:" No Easy Premiership Return "


I am surprised by the numbers of City fans that will accept relegation without giving the Premier League a right go. Many just say that we are building a team that will get us straight back up if/when we are relegated. I rather see City give it a go rather than rely on getting straight back up. We should fight all the way to stay up because if you do stay up there are huge financial rewards every season.

Just look at Stoke and the squad they have. Had a Premiership squad and have added a lot more players in the transfer window. Bookies odds on favourites to go straight back up. Where are they? Played 4 with no victories and in the bottom 3! No team has a right to go back up and it will be the same for any team relegated this season from the Premiership. There is no such thing is ‘having a strong squad/building to go straight back up or the yo yo effect’. The Championship is the hardest Division to get out of.

We are in the Premier League let’s make sure that we stay there. :thumbright: :bluebird:


Unbelievable what is happening at Stoke and it is a reminder to us how diffuclt the championship is.

We all want to stay in the Premier specially when you see the pundits and supporters of other teams knocking us. The reality is it will be a great achievement if we do so preparing yourself mentally for a return there is not such a bad thing.

For me I think we will return sadly so if we do manage to avoid the drop then happy days.

Re: " No Easy Premiership Return "

Thu Aug 23, 2018 2:00 pm

Although I do agree with your point of giving it a go, I think your comparison with Stoke is pointless because they have a highly expensive prem squad and they've gone and spent millions on inflated journeymen which we all know doesn't always work and is a huge risk. Remember we tried a similar method when we went down last time. It would be an entirely different situation if we went down this time - which is what a lot people including myself find comfort in.

Re: " No Easy Premiership Return "

Thu Aug 23, 2018 4:04 pm

bridgendbluebird30 wrote:" No Easy Premiership Return "


I am surprised by the numbers of City fans that will accept relegation without giving the Premier League a right go. Many just say that we are building a team that will get us straight back up if/when we are relegated. I rather see City give it a go rather than rely on getting straight back up. We should fight all the way to stay up because if you do stay up there are huge financial rewards every season.

Just look at Stoke and the squad they have. Had a Premiership squad and have added a lot more players in the transfer window. Bookies odds on favourites to go straight back up. Where are they? Played 4 with no victories and in the bottom 3! No team has a right to go back up and it will be the same for any team relegated this season from the Premiership. There is no such thing is ‘having a strong squad/building to go straight back up or the yo yo effect’. The Championship is the hardest Division to get out of.

We are in the Premier League let’s make sure that we stay there. :thumbright: :bluebird:

I cant believe there are any city fans that will accept relegation without giving it a right go. The line of thought was after giving it a right go and we still went down then we wouldnt be in Stokes position of spending an absolute fortune with what we all know no guarantees.I am on the side of the positives and think Warnock has done a tremendous job in the transfer market all be it completing at the eleventh hour.Just as there are no guarantees of bouncing straight back up,there are no guarantees of staying in the prem and I think we have a well balanced side who can deliver.

Re: " No Easy Premiership Return "

Thu Aug 23, 2018 5:27 pm

What the fans think and what the players think will be completely different.

I'm sure that the players will be fighting tooth and nail to stay in the PL, which is as it should be.

Re: " No Easy Premiership Return "

Thu Aug 23, 2018 7:44 pm

the point people are making is that it might be a better idea to buy players of lesser reputation that will stay at the club whether we stay up or go down, and not spend all the money on players so that if we do go down, we haven't got anything to show for it.

honestly, to buy players even equal to the likes of morrison, paterson and ralls would have cost ridiculous money. warnock rightly refused to spend big money on players he considered no better than what we already had.

it's never easy getting out of the championship, but it's much harder when you have a team of overpaid mercenaries and a pressing need to cut costs due to accruing more debt, like we did in 2014.

Re: " No Easy Premiership Return "

Thu Aug 23, 2018 7:48 pm

northernbluebird wrote:the point people are making is that it might be a better idea to buy players of lesser reputation that will stay at the club whether we stay up or go down, and not spend all the money on players so that if we do go down, we haven't got anything to show for it.

honestly, to buy players even equal to the likes of morrison, paterson and ralls would have cost ridiculous money. warnock rightly refused to spend big money on players he considered no better than what we already had.

it's never easy getting out of the championship, but it's much harder when you have a team of overpaid mercenaries and a pressing need to cut costs due to accruing more debt, like we did in 2014.

Well said.

Re: " No Easy Premiership Return "

Thu Aug 23, 2018 8:01 pm

We should’ve spent more

Re: " No Easy Premiership Return "

Thu Aug 23, 2018 8:05 pm

On the money mate. Top top post.

Re: " No Easy Premiership Return "

Thu Aug 23, 2018 8:14 pm

Bay Blue wrote:We should’ve spent more

With what? :roll: Some fans would bankrupt us, obviously haven't been there in the dark times :x Spend within our means :ayatollah:


OP, who has suggested we roll over?

Re: " No Easy Premiership Return "

Thu Aug 23, 2018 8:49 pm

Capital City Slicker wrote:
Bay Blue wrote:We should’ve spent more

With what? :roll: Some fans would bankrupt us, obviously haven't been there in the dark times :x Spend within our means :ayatollah:


OP, who has suggested we roll over?


17 posts, you’ve finally made it out of the darkness :lol:

Re: " No Easy Premiership Return "

Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:24 pm

bridgendbluebird30 wrote:" No Easy Premiership Return "


I am surprised by the numbers of City fans that will accept relegation without giving the Premier League a right go. Many just say that we are building a team that will get us straight back up if/when we are relegated. I rather see City give it a go rather than rely on getting straight back up. We should fight all the way to stay up because if you do stay up there are huge financial rewards every season.

Just look at Stoke and the squad they have. Had a Premiership squad and have added a lot more players in the transfer window. Bookies odds on favourites to go straight back up. Where are they? Played 4 with no victories and in the bottom 3! No team has a right to go back up and it will be the same for any team relegated this season from the Premiership. There is no such thing is ‘having a strong squad/building to go straight back up or the yo yo effect’. The Championship is the hardest Division to get out of.

We are in the Premier League let’s make sure that we stay there. :thumbright: :bluebird:


Thankfully, the manager and his team don't appear to be thinking like some of our so-called fans! :thumbright: :ayatollah:

Re: " No Easy Premiership Return "

Fri Aug 24, 2018 6:51 am

jimmy_rat wrote:I'm yet to see a post from anyone saying let's roll over and let everyone smash us every week. A few people may have said that if relegated we will be in a better place than last time, but not that they actually 'want' us to go down!!

Of course we're going to give it a go!!!


The words “accept relegation” is totally different from “actually want us to go down”. I have not suggested that fans have said “let’s roll over and let everyone smash us every week”. Just read the post.

The point I am making is that many fans have made it clear that if we are relegated then in their opionion we would be in a great position to bounce straight back up. I’ m just asking isn’t it better to stay in the Premiership rather than dropping back into the hardest Division to get out of? There is no such thing as the yo yo effect or bouncing straight back up but many fans think that will be easy. I use the comparison of Stoke because it’s not easy to bounce straight back up.

Re: " No Easy Premiership Return "

Fri Aug 24, 2018 7:14 am

bridgendbluebird30 wrote:
jimmy_rat wrote:I'm yet to see a post from anyone saying let's roll over and let everyone smash us every week. A few people may have said that if relegated we will be in a better place than last time, but not that they actually 'want' us to go down!!

Of course we're going to give it a go!!!


The words “accept relegation” is totally different from “actually want us to go down”. I have not suggested that fans have said “let’s roll over and let everyone smash us every week”. Just read the post.

The point I am making is that many fans have made it clear that if we are relegated then in their opionion we would be in a great position to bounce straight back up. I’ m just asking isn’t it better to stay in the Premiership rather than dropping back into the hardest Division to get out of? There is no such thing as the yo yo effect or bouncing straight back up but many fans think that will be easy. I use the comparison of Stoke because it’s not easy to bounce straight back up.


Put simply. Many fans will not be happy with relegation as you suggest. That is a ridiculous thing to say.

And if you think we're not giving it a go, that is equally ridiculous.

Re: " No Easy Premiership Return "

Fri Aug 24, 2018 7:58 am

jimmy_rat wrote:
bridgendbluebird30 wrote:
jimmy_rat wrote:I'm yet to see a post from anyone saying let's roll over and let everyone smash us every week. A few people may have said that if relegated we will be in a better place than last time, but not that they actually 'want' us to go down!!

Of course we're going to give it a go!!!


The words “accept relegation” is totally different from “actually want us to go down”. I have not suggested that fans have said “let’s roll over and let everyone smash us every week”. Just read the post.

The point I am making is that many fans have made it clear that if we are relegated then in their opionion we would be in a great position to bounce straight back up. I’ m just asking isn’t it better to stay in the Premiership rather than dropping back into the hardest Division to get out of? There is no such thing as the yo yo effect or bouncing straight back up but many fans think that will be easy. I use the comparison of Stoke because it’s not easy to bounce straight back up.


Put simply. Many fans will not be happy with relegation as you suggest. That is a ridiculous thing to say.

And if you think we're not giving it a go, that is equally ridiculous.


Just read the post. There is no mention of the word “happy”, no mention of “actually want us to go down down” no mention of “let’s roll over and let everyone smash us every week” they are all things that you have added. It’s a straight forward easy to understand post. I have used the words “accept relegation “ which is totally different from what you are trying to suggest. All that I am trying to say using Stoke as an example, it’s not straightforward to bounce straight back up if relegated. Just no need to over complicate things and twist everything.

Re: " No Easy Premiership Return "

Fri Aug 24, 2018 8:21 am

bridgendbluebird30 wrote:
jimmy_rat wrote:
bridgendbluebird30 wrote:
jimmy_rat wrote:I'm yet to see a post from anyone saying let's roll over and let everyone smash us every week. A few people may have said that if relegated we will be in a better place than last time, but not that they actually 'want' us to go down!!

Of course we're going to give it a go!!!


The words “accept relegation” is totally different from “actually want us to go down”. I have not suggested that fans have said “let’s roll over and let everyone smash us every week”. Just read the post.

The point I am making is that many fans have made it clear that if we are relegated then in their opionion we would be in a great position to bounce straight back up. I’ m just asking isn’t it better to stay in the Premiership rather than dropping back into the hardest Division to get out of? There is no such thing as the yo yo effect or bouncing straight back up but many fans think that will be easy. I use the comparison of Stoke because it’s not easy to bounce straight back up.


Put simply. Many fans will not be happy with relegation as you suggest. That is a ridiculous thing to say.

And if you think we're not giving it a go, that is equally ridiculous.


Just read the post. There is no mention of the word “happy”, no mention of “actually want us to go down down” no mention of “let’s roll over and let everyone smash us every week” they are all things that you have added. It’s a straight forward easy to understand post. I have used the words “accept relegation “ which is totally different from what you are trying to suggest. All that I am trying to say using Stoke as an example, it’s not straightforward to bounce straight back up if relegated. Just no need to over complicate things and twist everything.


And it's not as simple as bouncing straight back up. People are agreeing thinga like finances, relationships with the fans, etc. If we are relegated there will not be the problems faced last time. THIS is what people are mainly accepting if we get relegated this season. NOT the fact it's a given that we'll go straight back up as you suggest. Infact. I haven't read a single post staying as much.

One think is sure. Our players will 'give it a go' as you loosely suggested they weren't.

Re: " No Easy Premiership Return "

Fri Aug 24, 2018 10:10 am

jimmy_rat wrote:
bridgendbluebird30 wrote:
jimmy_rat wrote:
bridgendbluebird30 wrote:
jimmy_rat wrote:I'm yet to see a post from anyone saying let's roll over and let everyone smash us every week. A few people may have said that if relegated we will be in a better place than last time, but not that they actually 'want' us to go down!!

Of course we're going to give it a go!!!


The words “accept relegation” is totally different from “actually want us to go down”. I have not suggested that fans have said “let’s roll over and let everyone smash us every week”. Just read the post.

The point I am making is that many fans have made it clear that if we are relegated then in their opionion we would be in a great position to bounce straight back up. I’ m just asking isn’t it better to stay in the Premiership rather than dropping back into the hardest Division to get out of? There is no such thing as the yo yo effect or bouncing straight back up but many fans think that will be easy. I use the comparison of Stoke because it’s not easy to bounce straight back up.


Put simply. Many fans will not be happy with relegation as you suggest. That is a ridiculous thing to say.

And if you think we're not giving it a go, that is equally ridiculous.


Just read the post. There is no mention of the word “happy”, no mention of “actually want us to go down down” no mention of “let’s roll over and let everyone smash us every week” they are all things that you have added. It’s a straight forward easy to understand post. I have used the words “accept relegation “ which is totally different from what you are trying to suggest. All that I am trying to say using Stoke as an example, it’s not straightforward to bounce straight back up if relegated. Just no need to over complicate things and twist everything.


And it's not as simple as bouncing straight back up. People are agreeing thinga like finances, relationships with the fans, etc. If we are relegated there will not be the problems faced last time. THIS is what people are mainly accepting if we get relegated this season. NOT the fact it's a given that we'll go straight back up as you suggest. Infact. I haven't read a single post staying as much.

One think is sure. Our players will 'give it a go' as you loosely suggested they weren't.


You are clearly not going to accept anything. You were the one that added all those statements earlier because that’s your interpretation. There have been many posts and many fans who clearly think that we will bounce back straight back up or oexpect is to do so given our squad if relegated. That is the point but you but you won’t accept the fact that fans have said this. All I am saying is that it’s not easy to get straight back up.

Re: " No Easy Premiership Return "

Fri Aug 24, 2018 10:15 am

bridgendbluebird30 wrote:
jimmy_rat wrote:
bridgendbluebird30 wrote:
jimmy_rat wrote:
bridgendbluebird30 wrote:
jimmy_rat wrote:I'm yet to see a post from anyone saying let's roll over and let everyone smash us every week. A few people may have said that if relegated we will be in a better place than last time, but not that they actually 'want' us to go down!!

Of course we're going to give it a go!!!


The words “accept relegation” is totally different from “actually want us to go down”. I have not suggested that fans have said “let’s roll over and let everyone smash us every week”. Just read the post.

The point I am making is that many fans have made it clear that if we are relegated then in their opionion we would be in a great position to bounce straight back up. I’ m just asking isn’t it better to stay in the Premiership rather than dropping back into the hardest Division to get out of? There is no such thing as the yo yo effect or bouncing straight back up but many fans think that will be easy. I use the comparison of Stoke because it’s not easy to bounce straight back up.


Put simply. Many fans will not be happy with relegation as you suggest. That is a ridiculous thing to say.

And if you think we're not giving it a go, that is equally ridiculous.


Just read the post. There is no mention of the word “happy”, no mention of “actually want us to go down down” no mention of “let’s roll over and let everyone smash us every week” they are all things that you have added. It’s a straight forward easy to understand post. I have used the words “accept relegation “ which is totally different from what you are trying to suggest. All that I am trying to say using Stoke as an example, it’s not straightforward to bounce straight back up if relegated. Just no need to over complicate things and twist everything.


And it's not as simple as bouncing straight back up. People are agreeing thinga like finances, relationships with the fans, etc. If we are relegated there will not be the problems faced last time. THIS is what people are mainly accepting if we get relegated this season. NOT the fact it's a given that we'll go straight back up as you suggest. Infact. I haven't read a single post staying as much.

One think is sure. Our players will 'give it a go' as you loosely suggested they weren't.


You are clearly not going to accept anything. You were the one that added all those statements earlier because that’s your interpretation. There have been many posts and many fans who clearly think that we will bounce back straight back up or oexpect is to do so given our squad if relegated. That is the point but you but you won’t accept the fact that fans have said this. All I am saying is that it’s not easy to get straight back up.


This is the comment I have most issue with "We should fight all the way to stay up" (as stated in my posts which you won't accept) is that you're saying our players aren't going to fight to stay up? What a load of nonsense.

Re: " No Easy Premiership Return "

Fri Aug 24, 2018 12:25 pm

jimmy_rat wrote:
bridgendbluebird30 wrote:
jimmy_rat wrote:
bridgendbluebird30 wrote:
jimmy_rat wrote:
bridgendbluebird30 wrote:
jimmy_rat wrote:I'm yet to see a post from anyone saying let's roll over and let everyone smash us every week. A few people may have said that if relegated we will be in a better place than last time, but not that they actually 'want' us to go down!!

Of course we're going to give it a go!!!


The words “accept relegation” is totally different from “actually want us to go down”. I have not suggested that fans have said “let’s roll over and let everyone smash us every week”. Just read the post.

The point I am making is that many fans have made it clear that if we are relegated then in their opionion we would be in a great position to bounce straight back up. I’ m just asking isn’t it better to stay in the Premiership rather than dropping back into the hardest Division to get out of? There is no such thing as the yo yo effect or bouncing straight back up but many fans think that will be easy. I use the comparison of Stoke because it’s not easy to bounce straight back up.


Put simply. Many fans will not be happy with relegation as you suggest. That is a ridiculous thing to say.

And if you think we're not giving it a go, that is equally ridiculous.


Just read the post. There is no mention of the word “happy”, no mention of “actually want us to go down down” no mention of “let’s roll over and let everyone smash us every week” they are all things that you have added. It’s a straight forward easy to understand post. I have used the words “accept relegation “ which is totally different from what you are trying to suggest. All that I am trying to say using Stoke as an example, it’s not straightforward to bounce straight back up if relegated. Just no need to over complicate things and twist everything.


And it's not as simple as bouncing straight back up. People are agreeing thinga like finances, relationships with the fans, etc. If we are relegated there will not be the problems faced last time. THIS is what people are mainly accepting if we get relegated this season. NOT the fact it's a given that we'll go straight back up as you suggest. Infact. I haven't read a single post staying as much.

One think is sure. Our players will 'give it a go' as you loosely suggested they weren't.


You are clearly not going to accept anything. You were the one that added all those statements earlier because that’s your interpretation. There have been many posts and many fans who clearly think that we will bounce back straight back up or oexpect is to do so given our squad if relegated. That is the point but you but you won’t accept the fact that fans have said this. All I am saying is that it’s not easy to get straight back up.


This is the comment I have most issue with "We should fight all the way to stay up" (as stated in my posts which you won't accept) is that you're saying our players aren't going to fight to stay up? What a load of nonsense.


:lol: Youhave got it so wrong. Read the thread and it’s title - it’s all about being difficult go straight back up if relegated. It has nothing to do with the players. We should fight to stay up is referring to the club and not the players. I am actually talking about the club providing the manager with the finances he needs to keep us up. For example, buying a striker in the January transfer window. 24m spent, a further 15m for a striker is not breaking the bank and in fact I think the club will bring in another striker. Small investment may pay dividends! You really need to stop looking far too deep into things. The thread is quite clear what I am trying to saying and there is no mention of players at all!