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Fri Aug 03, 2018 6:55 pm

not football related sorry are parking eye legal parked in premier inn with grand daughter for a meal in there less than 1 hour charging me £100 don’t understand wan.ers any advice blooobirds :old: :old:

Re: parking fines

Fri Aug 03, 2018 7:09 pm

sootyr2 wrote:not football related sorry are parking eye legal parked in premier inn with grand daughter for a meal in there less than 1 hour charging me £100 don’t understand wan.ers any advice blooobirds :old: :old:

Do not make any contact what so ever
Hold your nerve when the letters and threats come
They eventually give up
Go on.line read the examples and believe
But do not and i mean do not reply to any of the letters and threats
You will get many offers pay now save ££
Then its your last chance etc at least twice then we will recomend our client takes legal action
Then last chance before our client takes legal action
Then eventually no more letters come
Hold your nerve

Re: parking fines

Fri Aug 03, 2018 7:31 pm

thanks for advice wife gets nervy I don’t mind watching Cardiff for over45 years used to it :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: parking fines

Fri Aug 03, 2018 7:46 pm

troobloo3339 wrote:
sootyr2 wrote:not football related sorry are parking eye legal parked in premier inn with grand daughter for a meal in there less than 1 hour charging me £100 don’t understand wan.ers any advice blooobirds :old: :old:

Do not make any contact what so ever
Hold your nerve when the letters and threats come
They eventually give up
Go on.line read the examples and believe
But do not and i mean do not reply to any of the letters and threats
You will get many offers pay now save ££
Then its your last chance etc at least twice then we will recomend our client takes legal action
Then last chance before our client takes legal action
Then eventually no more letters come
Hold your nerve





Parking eye does llandough and uhw people there don't get away with not paying fines? Premier inn is not asda scenario? what I'm saying is be careful about not paying parking eye they are regulated company And use number plate recognition cameras and as such probably have legal rights to claim fines.

Re: parking fines

Fri Aug 03, 2018 8:47 pm

I was told you need only respond to either official council fines or from the police. Any private parking firm does not have the legal power to enforce them. Also, the penalty you are being charged, does not fit the ‘crime’ you have supposedly committed.
No matter what they send you, ignore it. If you respond and enter into dialogue, then you are technically admitting you were parked there.
Letters sent to you are never recorded delivery, so how do they know you even received them in the first place.

Re: parking fines

Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:30 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
troobloo3339 wrote:
sootyr2 wrote:not football related sorry are parking eye legal parked in premier inn with grand daughter for a meal in there less than 1 hour charging me £100 don’t understand wan.ers any advice blooobirds :old: :old:

Do not make any contact what so ever
Hold your nerve when the letters and threats come
They eventually give up
Go on.line read the examples and believe
But do not and i mean do not reply to any of the letters and threats
You will get many offers pay now save ££
Then its your last chance etc at least twice then we will recomend our client takes legal action
Then last chance before our client takes legal action
Then eventually no more letters come
Hold your nerve





Parking eye does llandough and uhw people there don't get away with not paying fines? Premier inn is not asda scenario? what I'm saying is be careful about not paying parking eye they are regulated company And use number plate recognition cameras and as such probably have legal rights to claim fines.


Yes, Parking Eye do cover Llandough hospital and it’s the same advice as trooblue gave. They don’t follow up. I know dozens of people who get away with it constantly including myself. A lot of the people there panic and pay though and that’s how they make their money.

Re: parking fines

Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:49 pm

OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
troobloo3339 wrote:
sootyr2 wrote:not football related sorry are parking eye legal parked in premier inn with grand daughter for a meal in there less than 1 hour charging me £100 don’t understand wan.ers any advice blooobirds :old: :old:

Do not make any contact what so ever
Hold your nerve when the letters and threats come
They eventually give up
Go on.line read the examples and believe
But do not and i mean do not reply to any of the letters and threats
You will get many offers pay now save ££
Then its your last chance etc at least twice then we will recomend our client takes legal action
Then last chance before our client takes legal action
Then eventually no more letters come
Hold your nerve





Parking eye does llandough and uhw people there don't get away with not paying fines? Premier inn is not asda scenario? what I'm saying is be careful about not paying parking eye they are regulated company And use number plate recognition cameras and as such probably have legal rights to claim fines.


Yes, Parking Eye do cover Llandough hospital and it’s the same advice as trooblue gave. They don’t follow up. I know dozens of people who get away with it constantly including myself. A lot of the people there panic and pay though and that’s how they make their money.



At uhw yesterday and few people with their letters at parking eye info desk. Makes you wonder why they bother do parking because it must be administratively costly to employ staff and do paper work? But as bever been given ticket anywhere so never put to test. :occasion5:

Re: parking fines

Fri Aug 03, 2018 10:13 pm

I wouldn't ignore it. BPA regulated parking companies can get your information from the DVLA and can take you to court if they wish. The 'ignore it' advice is based on old legislation, new legislation introduced in October 2014 makes it much easier for private parking companies to take 'parking offenders' to court. I know people who have been taken to court so it does happen, there was also a news story a year or so ago about the company running UHW taking nurses etc. to court because they had unpaid PCNs. e.g. https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/heal ... t-14571784

But DON'T pay it just yet. They are legitimate ways to appeal and get out of it. The forums on Martin Lewis' money saving website has some brilliant advice and people willing to help. I used there first appeal template letter and got the ticket cancelled straight away off the back of that with Total Parking Solutions https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/fo ... .php?f=163

Re: parking fines

Fri Aug 03, 2018 10:33 pm

ianmackay88 wrote:I wouldn't ignore it. BPA regulated parking companies can get your information from the DVLA and can take you to court if they wish. The 'ignore it' advice is based on old legislation, new legislation introduced in October 2014 makes it much easier for private parking companies to take 'parking offenders' to court. I know people who have been taken to court so it does happen, there was also a news story a year or so ago about the company running UHW taking nurses etc. to court because they had unpaid PCNs. e.g. https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/heal ... t-14571784

But DON'T pay it just yet. They are legitimate ways to appeal and get out of it. The forums on Martin Lewis' money saving website has some brilliant advice and people willing to help. I used there first appeal template letter and got the ticket cancelled straight away off the back of that with Total Parking Solutions https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/fo ... .php?f=163




That was my point in 1st post this company is regulated and by using number recognition cameras they have direct access to dvla, so whilst ignoring them may be sound advice regarding asda ECT ECT I'm not sure it is best idea with parking eye they are not like other private companies you see at shopping centres :old:

Re: parking fines

Sat Aug 04, 2018 7:57 am

pembroke allan wrote:
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
troobloo3339 wrote:
sootyr2 wrote:not football related sorry are parking eye legal parked in premier inn with grand daughter for a meal in there less than 1 hour charging me £100 don’t understand wan.ers any advice blooobirds :old: :old:

Do not make any contact what so ever
Hold your nerve when the letters and threats come
They eventually give up
Go on.line read the examples and believe
But do not and i mean do not reply to any of the letters and threats
You will get many offers pay now save ££
Then its your last chance etc at least twice then we will recomend our client takes legal action
Then last chance before our client takes legal action
Then eventually no more letters come
Hold your nerve





Parking eye does llandough and uhw people there don't get away with not paying fines? Premier inn is not asda scenario? what I'm saying is be careful about not paying parking eye they are regulated company And use number plate recognition cameras and as such probably have legal rights to claim fines.


Yes, Parking Eye do cover Llandough hospital and it’s the same advice as trooblue gave. They don’t follow up. I know dozens of people who get away with it constantly including myself. A lot of the people there panic and pay though and that’s how they make their money.



At uhw yesterday and few people with their letters at parking eye info desk. Makes you wonder why they bother do parking because it must be administratively costly to employ staff and do paper work? But as bever been given ticket anywhere so never put to test. :occasion5:


Not really, they’re very aggressive with sending out letters and chasing payments. Most people panic and pay. They make a small fortune.

Re: parking fines

Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:27 am

sootyr2 wrote:not football related sorry are parking eye legal parked in premier inn with grand daughter for a meal in there less than 1 hour charging me £100 don’t understand wan.ers any advice blooobirds :old: :old:

I got a ticket from parking eye a couple of years ago, i took all the normal advice about ignoring all the letters and theyll give up, then i tried to get credit and got refused, when i looked into why i found i had a ccj from parking eye, maybe i was 1 of the unlucky ones so be careful

Re: parking fines

Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:52 am

Don't ignore it as this will count against you if it does go to court. However these companies rely on people rolling over to avoid the hassle. There are a number of grounds you can fight it on but it can be stressful if you don't have experience in these things. But If you feel you were in the right, fight it.

You say that you were less than an hour so on what basis are they saying you have to pay a fine? If you were legitimately there you should explain. If you were on Premier Inn land and had a meal there do you have any evidence of the purchase? e.g bank statement showing the meal paid for.

Re: parking fines

Sat Aug 04, 2018 9:10 am

JJ1927 wrote:Don't ignore it as this will count against you if it does go to court. However these companies rely on people rolling over to avoid the hassle. There are a number of grounds you can fight it on but it can be stressful if you don't have experience in these things. But If you feel you were in the right, fight it.

You say that you were less than an hour so on what basis are they saying you have to pay a fine? If you were legitimately there you should explain. If you were on Premier Inn land and had a meal there do you have any evidence of the purchase? e.g bank statement showing the meal paid for.

Don't respond
If you make contact they got you if you don't make contact they can not prove you have received any contact from them
I over stayed the 2 hours free parking at a services
They have my vehicle on cameras arriving and leaving
They've sent me numerous letters , threatened court ,and bailiffs ,over a 3 monthly period ,and then stopped becouse I made no contact with them this was this year ,so be brave and see it out

Re: parking fines

Sat Aug 04, 2018 9:13 am

There is no way any court in this land would entertain a fine of £100 for parking for under 1 hour.
Think about it. It would be thrown out of court immediately.
Ignore.

Re: parking fines

Sat Aug 04, 2018 9:17 am

troobloo3339 wrote:
JJ1927 wrote:Don't ignore it as this will count against you if it does go to court. However these companies rely on people rolling over to avoid the hassle. There are a number of grounds you can fight it on but it can be stressful if you don't have experience in these things. But If you feel you were in the right, fight it.

You say that you were less than an hour so on what basis are they saying you have to pay a fine? If you were legitimately there you should explain. If you were on Premier Inn land and had a meal there do you have any evidence of the purchase? e.g bank statement showing the meal paid for.

Don't respond
If you make contact they got you if you don't make contact they can not prove you have received any contact from them
I over stayed the 2 hours free parking at a services
They have my vehicle on cameras arriving and leaving
They've sent me numerous letters , threatened court ,and bailiffs ,over a 3 monthly period ,and then stopped becouse I made no contact with them this was this year ,so be brave and see it out



Same happened to me.
Used McDonalds but overstayed my time limit. Photo images of me entering and leaving etc.
I’ve not responded to them in any way.
How can they prove I have received my mail? They can’t as never recorded delivery.

Re: parking fines

Sat Aug 04, 2018 9:19 am

JJ1927 wrote:Don't ignore it as this will count against you if it does go to court. However these companies rely on people rolling over to avoid the hassle. There are a number of grounds you can fight it on but it can be stressful if you don't have experience in these things. But If you feel you were in the right, fight it.

You say that you were less than an hour so on what basis are they saying you have to pay a fine? If you were legitimately there you should explain. If you were on Premier Inn land and had a meal there do you have any evidence of the purchase? e.g bank statement showing the meal paid for.



Yes. This is the correct approach now. The days of just ignoring it are gone. What is their justification? But if you parked in the Premier Inn and went to eat elsewhere, I’d claim it was a genuine mistake and as it was your first offence could they let you off if you promise not to do it again. I know it can be an issue where the Premier Inn is in Barry as there is a Beefeater n ext door to it but they have big signs up to make sure you park in the right part of the car park

Re: parking fines

Sat Aug 04, 2018 9:31 am

Ketteringblues wrote:There is no way any court in this land would entertain a fine of £100 for parking for under 1 hour.
Think about it. It would be thrown out of court immediately.
Ignore.


That's not exactly true. New legislation and case law has set a cap of £100 rather than the old way which was to recover losses which was normally around £15.

That said I still follow the ignore it advice. The parking companies rely on contract law so it is pointless engaging with them because once you park with clear and understandable signage you have accepted the contract and if you breach the terms they can seek damages.

I would just ignore the requests until they issue court proceedings which happens rarely especially if you don't engage. If a court summons is issued you can then contact them and offer to pay or negotiate a settlement before it reaches court.

Re: parking fines

Sat Aug 04, 2018 9:39 am

Ketteringblues wrote:
troobloo3339 wrote:
JJ1927 wrote:Don't ignore it as this will count against you if it does go to court. However these companies rely on people rolling over to avoid the hassle. There are a number of grounds you can fight it on but it can be stressful if you don't have experience in these things. But If you feel you were in the right, fight it.

You say that you were less than an hour so on what basis are they saying you have to pay a fine? If you were legitimately there you should explain. If you were on Premier Inn land and had a meal there do you have any evidence of the purchase? e.g bank statement showing the meal paid for.

Don't respond
If you make contact they got you if you don't make contact they can not prove you have received any contact from them
I over stayed the 2 hours free parking at a services
They have my vehicle on cameras arriving and leaving
They've sent me numerous letters , threatened court ,and bailiffs ,over a 3 monthly period ,and then stopped becouse I made no contact with them this was this year ,so be brave and see it out



Same happened to me.
Used McDonalds but overstayed my time limit. Photo images of me entering and leaving etc.
I’ve not responded to them in any way.
How can they prove I have received my mail? They can’t as never recorded delivery.

i ignored all letters didnt respond to any of them and still got a ccj from a court in northampton, like i said earlier maybe i was unlucky, its a chance you take,mine was from a carpark in cardigan i didnt even know i was over my time till the fine came through the door,

Re: parking fines

Sat Aug 04, 2018 9:42 am

bluebird58 wrote:Yes. This is the correct approach now. The days of just ignoring it are gone. What is their justification? But if you parked in the Premier Inn and went to eat elsewhere, I’d claim it was a genuine mistake and as it was your first offence could they let you off if you promise not to do it again. I know it can be an issue where the Premier Inn is in Barry as there is a Beefeater n ext door to it but they have big signs up to make sure you park in the right part of the car park


As explained above the parking companies rely on contract law. Presumably there was clear signage stating the terms and conditions for parking in the Premier Inn. Once you or anyone else parks there (confirmed by video evidence) then they are deemed as accepting the contract.

If terms are breached then the parking company will seek damages. The excuse of a 'genuine mistake' won't even be considered because from the parking firms perspective they provided a service (parking space) with terms and conditions which were breached.

However, if the signage was not clearly visible or the term they rely on wasn't breached and you have proof then that would be legitimate grounds for the invoice to be cancelled.

Re: parking fines

Sat Aug 04, 2018 9:51 am

casa gil wrote:i ignored all letters didnt respond to any of them and still got a ccj from a court in northampton, like i said earlier maybe i was unlucky, its a chance you take,mine was from a carpark in cardigan i didnt even know i was over my time till the fine came through the door,


Sometimes parking companies do take individuals to court but they only do so if they are sure they will get a result. There are upfront court costs and if they don't recover those costs they will lose money rather than make money.

It would seem that your mistake was to ignore the court summons which you must have received, unless you moved in the meantime and it was sent to your old address.

If you don't care about your credit rating then ignore the court summons and it will stay on your credit file for 7 years although the parking company can only take further recovery action within 6 years (which they never do)

If you do care about your credit rating then contact them with an offer to settle.

If you didn't receive the court summons because you had moved you can apply to the court to have it annulled although you would have to pay a court fee. Of course the parking company could then issue a new court summons.

Re: parking fines

Sat Aug 04, 2018 10:01 am

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
casa gil wrote:i ignored all letters didnt respond to any of them and still got a ccj from a court in northampton, like i said earlier maybe i was unlucky, its a chance you take,mine was from a carpark in cardigan i didnt even know i was over my time till the fine came through the door,


Sometimes parking companies do take individuals to court but they only do so if they are sure they will get a result. There are upfront court costs and if they don't recover those costs they will lose money rather than make money.

It would seem that your mistake was to ignore the court summons which you must have received, unless you moved in the meantime and it was sent to your old address.

If you don't care about your credit rating then ignore the court summons and it will stay on your credit file for 7 years although the parking company can only take further recovery action within 6 years (which they never do)

If you do care about your credit rating then contact them with an offer to settle.

If you didn't receive the court summons because you had moved you can apply to the court to have it annulled although you would have to pay a court fee. Of course the parking company could then issue a new court summons.

yes i did ignore the court summons i thought it was all part of ignore everything you get off them, when i realised i had a ccj i did settle the fine straight away,

Re: parking fines

Sat Aug 04, 2018 10:49 am

Out of interest why did you get the fine?

Re: parking fines

Sat Aug 04, 2018 12:38 pm

premier inn had nowhere to put number in told waitress and she said ok took my number while having meal there thought it was all sorted :old: :laughing5:

Re: parking fines

Sat Aug 04, 2018 12:42 pm

We had a fine letter following an appt at st David's hospital, despite our displaying blue permit and parking in a disabled place. Knowing we had done nothing wrong I appealed and fine was cancelled without any reason for issuing the letter

Re: parking fines

Sat Aug 04, 2018 12:43 pm

sootyr2 wrote:premier inn had nowhere to put number in told waitress and she said ok took my number while having meal there thought it was all sorted :old: :laughing5:




Well if you are in premier got a receipt no problem if havnt got receipt just print off statement with them on it will be dated :thumbup:

Re: parking fines

Sat Aug 04, 2018 1:00 pm

Pepipoo. The only website you need for anything parking fine related.

Great forum with loads of knowledge and folks who know just what to do.

Re: parking fines

Sat Aug 04, 2018 1:13 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
sootyr2 wrote:premier inn had nowhere to put number in told waitress and she said ok took my number while having meal there thought it was all sorted :old: :laughing5:




Well if you are in premier got a receipt no problem if havnt got receipt just print off statement with them on it will be dated :thumbup:


You will have an appeal period and sounds like you have good grounds for appeal.