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Neil Warnock!!

Fri Aug 03, 2018 10:58 am

If he manages to somehow Survive this season, and Cardiff also Survive life in Prem then he should probably retire.

What an achievement to go out on, keeping the worst ever promoted (according to media) side in the premiership

Re: Neil Warnock!!

Fri Aug 03, 2018 1:46 pm

Of course he'll survive the season and so will Cardiff City comfortably .
The only issue is his age which means he's really entitled to retire and I'd like to see him choose and train his successor for a season.
Martin ONeil or Roy Keane would both be ideal men to take it to the next level , but let's first let Sir Neil establish us as a comfortable mid table team for a season or two. I'm happy with him as long as he wants to stay though.

Re: Neil Warnock!!

Fri Aug 03, 2018 8:03 pm

SirJimmySchoular wrote:Of course he'll survive the season and so will Cardiff City comfortably .
The only issue is his age which means he's really entitled to retire and I'd like to see him choose and train his successor for a season.
Martin ONeil or Roy Keane would both be ideal men to take it to the next level , but let's first let Sir Neil establish us as a comfortable mid table team for a season or two. I'm happy with him as long as he wants to stay though.



i feel we might promote from within..Kevin Blackwell has managed 4 teams and Ronnie Jepson 2 and have both been a massive part of our rise.

Re: Neil Warnock!!

Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:37 pm

SirJimmySchoular wrote:Of course he'll survive the season and so will Cardiff City comfortably .
The only issue is his age which means he's really entitled to retire and I'd like to see him choose and train his successor for a season.
Martin ONeil or Roy Keane would both be ideal men to take it to the next level , but let's first let Sir Neil establish us as a comfortable mid table team for a season or two. I'm happy with him as long as he wants to stay though.


Roy Keane is a horrendous manager. No ta.

Re: Neil Warnock!!

Fri Aug 03, 2018 11:46 pm

Roy Keane is a horrendous manager. No ta.[/quote]

The only sensible comment so far in this thread.

Warnock should go when he wants to. But I am sure that he will be grateful for the advice.

What club has O'Neil left in a better state than he found it? I agree, Keane is horrendous.

Re: Neil Warnock!!

Sat Aug 04, 2018 7:20 pm

KEANE!What you been puffin bro!!

Re: Neil Warnock!!

Sat Aug 04, 2018 7:35 pm

Hang on, I thought the concensus on here was that Warnock stays and takes us up again in 2020? :wink:

Some expect too much, too quickly and forget the past.

Re: Neil Warnock!!

Sat Aug 04, 2018 7:46 pm

Keane and O’Neil come on mate this isn’t Jurrasic Park lol

Re: Neil Warnock!!

Sat Aug 04, 2018 7:50 pm

Roy Keane is an horrendous manager?

Not sure about that to be honest. I think its one of those blinkered ones where people have a dislike of the man so discredit him rather than look at the actual record.

When he went to Sunderland they were second from bottom, he was appointed at the end of August, had no summer to look at it and guided Sunderland to the League Title and Manager of the year in his first season then kept Sunderland up in the Premier League the following year and he resigned in the December the year after that, probably I would imagine cos he felt he had taken Sunderland as far as he could (look at them now, they are a joke of a Club) and never did anything after he left bouncing around at the bottom of the Premiership until they eventually have had back to back relegation's.

He made a mistake taking the Ipswich job, I'm not being funny but Ipswich are a bit of an irrelevance in Football circles these days, Mick McCarthy has been there since 2012 and not managed to achieve diddly squat. His Win % is not to dissimilar to Keanes at Ipswich that doesn't make either of them bad managers IMO.

Other than that, he's been a relativity successful assistant to Martin O'Neil for Ireland and that's all he's done. He could have taken the Celtic Job twice and mopped like Rogers has but he turned it down.

I'm not entirely sure how that equates to him being an horrendous manager to be honest but I think he has zero interest in it as he is a disciplinarian who's style just doesn't match up with the modern day pampered footballer, that's why the likes of Mr Warnock will and never have got a top job.

Re: Neil Warnock!!

Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:12 pm

RV Casual wrote:Roy Keane is an horrendous manager?

Not sure about that to be honest. I think its one of those blinkered ones where people have a dislike of the man so discredit him rather than look at the actual record.

When he went to Sunderland they were second from bottom, he was appointed at the end of August, had no summer to look at it and guided Sunderland to the League Title and Manager of the year in his first season then kept Sunderland up in the Premier League the following year and he resigned in the December the year after that, probably I would imagine cos he felt he had taken Sunderland as far as he could (look at them now, they are a joke of a Club) and never did anything after he left bouncing around at the bottom of the Premiership until they eventually have had back to back relegation's.

He made a mistake taking the Ipswich job, I'm not being funny but Ipswich are a bit of an irrelevance in Football circles these days, Mick McCarthy has been there since 2012 and not managed to achieve diddly squat. His Win % is not to dissimilar to Keanes at Ipswich that doesn't make either of them bad managers IMO.

Other than that, he's been a relativity successful assistant to Martin O'Neil for Ireland and that's all he's done. He could have taken the Celtic Job twice and mopped like Rogers has but he turned it down.

I'm not entirely sure how that equates to him being an horrendous manager to be honest but I think he has zero interest in it as he is a disciplinarian who's style just doesn't match up with the modern day pampered footballer, that's why the likes of Mr Warnock will and never have got a top job.


I don’t dislike the man. Truth be told I quite like that he is forthright. I also like his treatment of the lack of professionalism from some of his players including leaving some behind after they missed a bus.

Horrendous manager comes from knowing and chatting to Sunderland and Ipswich fans. Neither rate him. True they were in relegation zone when he took over but it was after 4 games. He had lots of support from his chairman at Sunderland and signed kavanagh which was instrumental for them.

At Ipswich no money he had no positive effect on them.

Re: Neil Warnock!!

Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:14 pm

maccydee wrote:
RV Casual wrote:Roy Keane is an horrendous manager?

Not sure about that to be honest. I think its one of those blinkered ones where people have a dislike of the man so discredit him rather than look at the actual record.

When he went to Sunderland they were second from bottom, he was appointed at the end of August, had no summer to look at it and guided Sunderland to the League Title and Manager of the year in his first season then kept Sunderland up in the Premier League the following year and he resigned in the December the year after that, probably I would imagine cos he felt he had taken Sunderland as far as he could (look at them now, they are a joke of a Club) and never did anything after he left bouncing around at the bottom of the Premiership until they eventually have had back to back relegation's.

He made a mistake taking the Ipswich job, I'm not being funny but Ipswich are a bit of an irrelevance in Football circles these days, Mick McCarthy has been there since 2012 and not managed to achieve diddly squat. His Win % is not to dissimilar to Keanes at Ipswich that doesn't make either of them bad managers IMO.

Other than that, he's been a relativity successful assistant to Martin O'Neil for Ireland and that's all he's done. He could have taken the Celtic Job twice and mopped like Rogers has but he turned it down.

I'm not entirely sure how that equates to him being an horrendous manager to be honest but I think he has zero interest in it as he is a disciplinarian who's style just doesn't match up with the modern day pampered footballer, that's why the likes of Mr Warnock will and never have got a top job.


I don’t dislike the man. Truth be told I quite like that he is forthright. I also like his treatment of the lack of professionalism from some of his players including leaving some behind after they missed a bus.

Horrendous manager comes from knowing and chatting to Sunderland and Ipswich fans. Neither rate him. True they were in relegation zone when he took over but it was after 4 games. He had lots of support from his chairman at Sunderland and signed kavanagh which was instrumental for them.

At Ipswich no money he had no positive effect on them.


At Ipswich he had no positive effect but neither has anyone who has come in after him either, I would have thought Sunderland fans would not be so against him to be honest, I mean since he left they have just been in constant free fall, he did and was doing ok there given the circumstances.

I'm not for one second saying he is the best manager in the world of even a very good one, but horrendous is very harsh.

Each to their own though, everyone see's things differently :thumbup:

Re: Neil Warnock!!

Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:27 pm

maccydee wrote:
RV Casual wrote:Roy Keane is an horrendous manager?

Not sure about that to be honest. I think its one of those blinkered ones where people have a dislike of the man so discredit him rather than look at the actual record.

When he went to Sunderland they were second from bottom, he was appointed at the end of August, had no summer to look at it and guided Sunderland to the League Title and Manager of the year in his first season then kept Sunderland up in the Premier League the following year and he resigned in the December the year after that, probably I would imagine cos he felt he had taken Sunderland as far as he could (look at them now, they are a joke of a Club) and never did anything after he left bouncing around at the bottom of the Premiership until they eventually have had back to back relegation's.

He made a mistake taking the Ipswich job, I'm not being funny but Ipswich are a bit of an irrelevance in Football circles these days, Mick McCarthy has been there since 2012 and not managed to achieve diddly squat. His Win % is not to dissimilar to Keanes at Ipswich that doesn't make either of them bad managers IMO.

Other than that, he's been a relativity successful assistant to Martin O'Neil for Ireland and that's all he's done. He could have taken the Celtic Job twice and mopped like Rogers has but he turned it down.

I'm not entirely sure how that equates to him being an horrendous manager to be honest but I think he has zero interest in it as he is a disciplinarian who's style just doesn't match up with the modern day pampered footballer, that's why the likes of Mr Warnock will and never have got a top job.


I don’t dislike the man. Truth be told I quite like that he is forthright. I also like his treatment of the lack of professionalism from some of his players including leaving some behind after they missed a bus.

Horrendous manager comes from knowing and chatting to Sunderland and Ipswich fans. Neither rate him. True they were in relegation zone when he took over but it was after 4 games. He had lots of support from his chairman at Sunderland and signed kavanagh which was instrumental for them.

At Ipswich no money he had no positive effect on them.


Very good balanced post. I quite like Keene although I don't like ManUre at all.
My hope is that somehow we can stay up and Warnock stays healthy for the season an ends his career in a high note. He will be 70 and it will be time to leave the stage....
My fear is that things go badly and our more fickle fans will be calling for changing the manager. Then whatever Vincent Tan does (stick or twist) he will have 1/2 the fans seeing him as a villain again.
I would like to see NW given the full season whatever our fortunes - I think he deserves the opportunity to see it through till next May.I
:bluebird: :thumbup:

Re: Neil Warnock!!

Sat Aug 04, 2018 9:37 pm

Wish warnock would bring Bellamy under his wing a bit more would be nice to pass all his knowledge onto craig .

Re: Neil Warnock!!

Sat Aug 04, 2018 10:45 pm

Lengee wrote:
maccydee wrote:
RV Casual wrote:Roy Keane is an horrendous manager?

Not sure about that to be honest. I think its one of those blinkered ones where people have a dislike of the man so discredit him rather than look at the actual record.

When he went to Sunderland they were second from bottom, he was appointed at the end of August, had no summer to look at it and guided Sunderland to the League Title and Manager of the year in his first season then kept Sunderland up in the Premier League the following year and he resigned in the December the year after that, probably I would imagine cos he felt he had taken Sunderland as far as he could (look at them now, they are a joke of a Club) and never did anything after he left bouncing around at the bottom of the Premiership until they eventually have had back to back relegation's.

He made a mistake taking the Ipswich job, I'm not being funny but Ipswich are a bit of an irrelevance in Football circles these days, Mick McCarthy has been there since 2012 and not managed to achieve diddly squat. His Win % is not to dissimilar to Keanes at Ipswich that doesn't make either of them bad managers IMO.

Other than that, he's been a relativity successful assistant to Martin O'Neil for Ireland and that's all he's done. He could have taken the Celtic Job twice and mopped like Rogers has but he turned it down.

I'm not entirely sure how that equates to him being an horrendous manager to be honest but I think he has zero interest in it as he is a disciplinarian who's style just doesn't match up with the modern day pampered footballer, that's why the likes of Mr Warnock will and never have got a top job.


I don’t dislike the man. Truth be told I quite like that he is forthright. I also like his treatment of the lack of professionalism from some of his players including leaving some behind after they missed a bus.

Horrendous manager comes from knowing and chatting to Sunderland and Ipswich fans. Neither rate him. True they were in relegation zone when he took over but it was after 4 games. He had lots of support from his chairman at Sunderland and signed kavanagh which was instrumental for them.

At Ipswich no money he had no positive effect on them.


Very good balanced post. I quite like Keene although I don't like ManUre at all.
My hope is that somehow we can stay up and Warnock stays healthy for the season an ends his career in a high note. He will be 70 and it will be time to leave the stage....
My fear is that things go badly and our more fickle fans will be calling for changing the manager. Then whatever Vincent Tan does (stick or twist) he will have 1/2 the fans seeing him as a villain again.
I would like to see NW given the full season whatever our fortunes - I think he deserves the opportunity to see it through till next May.I
:bluebird: :thumbup:


Sadly I agree with you.

Make no Bones about it. After the rebrand was reversed our fans were mostly in the wrong. Some will turn when it starts to go bad. Crikey, some already have.