Tue Jul 31, 2018 1:27 pm
Tue Jul 31, 2018 1:37 pm
kimble wrote:Do you think Warnock may try The Liverpool Formation at Home.
Murphy..Reid ..and Hoilett Or Mendez Laing
Breaking with pace
WIth Grujic (or similar ) Ralls and Paterson(..or a.n.other as the midfield workers behind them)
Just a thought
Tue Jul 31, 2018 1:44 pm
Tue Jul 31, 2018 1:45 pm
paulh_85 wrote:dont we already play this way?
Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:46 pm
dogfound wrote:paulh_85 wrote:dont we already play this way?
yes
Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:17 pm
sid61284 wrote:dogfound wrote:paulh_85 wrote:dont we already play this way?
yes
No we don't.
We play 4-5-1 with wingers
Not 4-3-3 with 3 forwards and wingbacks
Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:37 pm
dogfound wrote:sid61284 wrote:dogfound wrote:paulh_85 wrote:dont we already play this way?
yes
No we don't.
We play 4-5-1 with wingers
Not 4-3-3 with 3 forwards and wingbacks
we dont play with three breaking with pace.?
or a 3 in central mid..?
Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:29 pm
sid61284 wrote:dogfound wrote:sid61284 wrote:dogfound wrote:paulh_85 wrote:dont we already play this way?
yes
No we don't.
We play 4-5-1 with wingers
Not 4-3-3 with 3 forwards and wingbacks
we dont play with three breaking with pace.?
or a 3 in central mid..?
No we play a different system to that.
He asked if we would play same system as Liverpool which is 3 forwards. With 3 holding midfielders and full backs bombing on as wingers
Not what we play which is 3 attacking midfielders bombing on to support 1 forward
Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:52 pm
sid61284 wrote:dogfound wrote:sid61284 wrote:dogfound wrote:paulh_85 wrote:dont we already play this way?
yes
No we don't.
We play 4-5-1 with wingers
Not 4-3-3 with 3 forwards and wingbacks
we dont play with three breaking with pace.?
or a 3 in central mid..?
No we play a different system to that.
He asked if we would play same system as Liverpool which is 3 forwards. With 3 holding midfielders and full backs bombing on as wingers
Not what we play which is 3 attacking midfielders bombing on to support 1 forward
Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:58 pm
dogfound wrote:sid61284 wrote:dogfound wrote:sid61284 wrote:dogfound wrote:paulh_85 wrote:dont we already play this way?
yes
No we don't.
We play 4-5-1 with wingers
Not 4-3-3 with 3 forwards and wingbacks
we dont play with three breaking with pace.?
or a 3 in central mid..?
No we play a different system to that.
He asked if we would play same system as Liverpool which is 3 forwards. With 3 holding midfielders and full backs bombing on as wingers
Not what we play which is 3 attacking midfielders bombing on to support 1 forward
ive never been wrapped up in numbers because teams dont play like that tbh....but your splitting hairs anyway as it really depends whats happening in the game as a whole or recently in that game as to how far forward the 2 wide forwards/ wingers/wide midfielders are.....but if you think we dont play with 3 breaking with pace eh oh.
Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:01 pm
Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:09 pm
Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:13 pm
sid61284 wrote:dogfound wrote:sid61284 wrote:dogfound wrote:sid61284 wrote:dogfound wrote:paulh_85 wrote:dont we already play this way?
yes
No we don't.
We play 4-5-1 with wingers
Not 4-3-3 with 3 forwards and wingbacks
we dont play with three breaking with pace.?
or a 3 in central mid..?
No we play a different system to that.
He asked if we would play same system as Liverpool which is 3 forwards. With 3 holding midfielders and full backs bombing on as wingers
Not what we play which is 3 attacking midfielders bombing on to support 1 forward
ive never been wrapped up in numbers because teams dont play like that tbh....but your splitting hairs anyway as it really depends whats happening in the game as a whole or recently in that game as to how far forward the 2 wide forwards/ wingers/wide midfielders are.....but if you think we dont play with 3 breaking with pace eh oh.
Mate he asked if we would play the Liverpool formation.
If you don't know the difference between how a 433 and 451 work then really you are on wrong forum.
He asked would we play Liverpool formation and you said we already do. Not exactly splitting hairs am I
Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:22 pm
Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:25 pm
dogfound wrote:sid61284 wrote:dogfound wrote:sid61284 wrote:dogfound wrote:sid61284 wrote:dogfound wrote:paulh_85 wrote:dont we already play this way?
yes
No we don't.
We play 4-5-1 with wingers
Not 4-3-3 with 3 forwards and wingbacks
we dont play with three breaking with pace.?
or a 3 in central mid..?
No we play a different system to that.
He asked if we would play same system as Liverpool which is 3 forwards. With 3 holding midfielders and full backs bombing on as wingers
Not what we play which is 3 attacking midfielders bombing on to support 1 forward
ive never been wrapped up in numbers because teams dont play like that tbh....but your splitting hairs anyway as it really depends whats happening in the game as a whole or recently in that game as to how far forward the 2 wide forwards/ wingers/wide midfielders are.....but if you think we dont play with 3 breaking with pace eh oh.
Mate he asked if we would play the Liverpool formation.
If you don't know the difference between how a 433 and 451 work then really you are on wrong forum.
He asked would we play Liverpool formation and you said we already do. Not exactly splitting hairs am I
i tried to not say it ..but its REAL football not playstation nonsense..
these numbers can be adopted in various ways and are used as a simplistic guide .
how teams/ individuals play changes throughout games..
the middle line is mind blowingly naive mate..how 3 numbers work ffs...its identical every time is it
Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:25 pm
kimble wrote:..i played welsh league football for a number of years ..i am not naive... if you don t know different styles of playing formations... and that teams have different options of changing things out as a reaction to other teams formations ...then you must be naive... the question i posed is whether Neil Warnock would use a different approach foe different games.....why you have to start imposing your holy than i attitude beats me....we all have opinions .respect them
Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:32 pm
Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:32 pm
sid61284 wrote:dogfound wrote:sid61284 wrote:dogfound wrote:sid61284 wrote:dogfound wrote:sid61284 wrote:dogfound wrote:paulh_85 wrote:dont we already play this way?
yes
No we don't.
We play 4-5-1 with wingers
Not 4-3-3 with 3 forwards and wingbacks
we dont play with three breaking with pace.?
or a 3 in central mid..?
No we play a different system to that.
He asked if we would play same system as Liverpool which is 3 forwards. With 3 holding midfielders and full backs bombing on as wingers
Not what we play which is 3 attacking midfielders bombing on to support 1 forward
ive never been wrapped up in numbers because teams dont play like that tbh....but your splitting hairs anyway as it really depends whats happening in the game as a whole or recently in that game as to how far forward the 2 wide forwards/ wingers/wide midfielders are.....but if you think we dont play with 3 breaking with pace eh oh.
Mate he asked if we would play the Liverpool formation.
If you don't know the difference between how a 433 and 451 work then really you are on wrong forum.
He asked would we play Liverpool formation and you said we already do. Not exactly splitting hairs am I
i tried to not say it ..but its REAL football not playstation nonsense..
these numbers can be adopted in various ways and are used as a simplistic guide .
how teams/ individuals play changes throughout games..
the middle line is mind blowingly naive mate..how 3 numbers work ffs...its identical every time is it
Well we may as well get rid of warnock then mate. Just put 11 on the pitch and get on with it. Play how the game goes.
For you to not know the difference between the way we play and Liverpool play shows you know shit about football.
Liverpool play 433 high pressing & high possession football and a lot of pace on the break from corners etc.
We play a 451 or 4231 sitting deep without the ball (park the bus) and counter attack.
Totally different formations and tactics.
If you said we played a similar brand of footy to united then yes I'd agree with u
Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:38 pm
kimble wrote:if you cannot see the point i made in my original post then maybe it says that its you that can t read.. i have enjoyed reading a lot of your posts and comments on many threads and have agreed with most of what you have said.... but maybe we will have to agree to disagree on this one...let s see what warnock does
Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:40 pm
dogfound wrote:sid61284 wrote:dogfound wrote:sid61284 wrote:dogfound wrote:sid61284 wrote:dogfound wrote:sid61284 wrote:dogfound wrote:paulh_85 wrote:dont we already play this way?
yes
No we don't.
We play 4-5-1 with wingers
Not 4-3-3 with 3 forwards and wingbacks
we dont play with three breaking with pace.?
or a 3 in central mid..?
No we play a different system to that.
He asked if we would play same system as Liverpool which is 3 forwards. With 3 holding midfielders and full backs bombing on as wingers
Not what we play which is 3 attacking midfielders bombing on to support 1 forward
ive never been wrapped up in numbers because teams dont play like that tbh....but your splitting hairs anyway as it really depends whats happening in the game as a whole or recently in that game as to how far forward the 2 wide forwards/ wingers/wide midfielders are.....but if you think we dont play with 3 breaking with pace eh oh.
Mate he asked if we would play the Liverpool formation.
If you don't know the difference between how a 433 and 451 work then really you are on wrong forum.
He asked would we play Liverpool formation and you said we already do. Not exactly splitting hairs am I
i tried to not say it ..but its REAL football not playstation nonsense..
these numbers can be adopted in various ways and are used as a simplistic guide .
how teams/ individuals play changes throughout games..
the middle line is mind blowingly naive mate..how 3 numbers work ffs...its identical every time is it
Well we may as well get rid of warnock then mate. Just put 11 on the pitch and get on with it. Play how the game goes.
For you to not know the difference between the way we play and Liverpool play shows you know shit about football.
Liverpool play 433 high pressing & high possession football and a lot of pace on the break from corners etc.
We play a 451 or 4231 sitting deep without the ball (park the bus) and counter attack.
Totally different formations and tactics.
If you said we played a similar brand of footy to united then yes I'd agree with u
oh so its changed now to 4 sets of numbers sometimes ..keep going youll come up with even more....
i might know shit but your still on the pan trying to push one out..
Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:41 pm
Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:02 pm
sid61284 wrote:dogfound wrote:sid61284 wrote:dogfound wrote:sid61284 wrote:dogfound wrote:paulh_85 wrote:dont we already play this way?
yes
No we don't.
We play 4-5-1 with wingers
Not 4-3-3 with 3 forwards and wingbacks
we dont play with three breaking with pace.?
or a 3 in central mid..?
No we play a different system to that.
He asked if we would play same system as Liverpool which is 3 forwards. With 3 holding midfielders and full backs bombing on as wingers
Not what we play which is 3 attacking midfielders bombing on to support 1 forward
ive never been wrapped up in numbers because teams dont play like that tbh....but your splitting hairs anyway as it really depends whats happening in the game as a whole or recently in that game as to how far forward the 2 wide forwards/ wingers/wide midfielders are.....but if you think we dont play with 3 breaking with pace eh oh.
Mate he asked if we would play the Liverpool formation.
If you don't know the difference between how a 433 and 451 work then really you are on wrong forum.
He asked would we play Liverpool formation and you said we already do. Not exactly splitting hairs am I
Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:13 pm
paulh_85 wrote:sid61284 wrote:dogfound wrote:sid61284 wrote:dogfound wrote:sid61284 wrote:dogfound wrote:paulh_85 wrote:dont we already play this way?
yes
No we don't.
We play 4-5-1 with wingers
Not 4-3-3 with 3 forwards and wingbacks
we dont play with three breaking with pace.?
or a 3 in central mid..?
No we play a different system to that.
He asked if we would play same system as Liverpool which is 3 forwards. With 3 holding midfielders and full backs bombing on as wingers
Not what we play which is 3 attacking midfielders bombing on to support 1 forward
ive never been wrapped up in numbers because teams dont play like that tbh....but your splitting hairs anyway as it really depends whats happening in the game as a whole or recently in that game as to how far forward the 2 wide forwards/ wingers/wide midfielders are.....but if you think we dont play with 3 breaking with pace eh oh.
Mate he asked if we would play the Liverpool formation.
If you don't know the difference between how a 433 and 451 work then really you are on wrong forum.
He asked would we play Liverpool formation and you said we already do. Not exactly splitting hairs am I
It really is splitting hairs, you’ve mentioned wingers and attacking midfielders as the same players in two different posts but they are two different positions so which is it?
Where people stand when the match kicks off is of little consequence really
Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:33 pm
sid61284 wrote:
Winger/wide attacking midfielder no difference.
Point is we don't play same formation or same tactics as Liverpool. Which is what you and dogfound said we do.
They use their pace on counterattack still passing from the back quickly to the front 3.
Our idea of counterattack is long ball from keeper or centre back for Zohore or hoilett/mendez to run on to.
The original post asked would/could we utilise Liverpool formation and tactics at home. The answer to which is NO we haven't got the personnel.
But you and dogfound make idiotic comments that we already play that way just because we have 3 fast players
Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:58 pm
sid61284 wrote:paulh_85 wrote:sid61284 wrote:dogfound wrote:sid61284 wrote:dogfound wrote:sid61284 wrote:dogfound wrote:paulh_85 wrote:dont we already play this way?
yes
No we don't.
We play 4-5-1 with wingers
Not 4-3-3 with 3 forwards and wingbacks
we dont play with three breaking with pace.?
or a 3 in central mid..?
No we play a different system to that.
He asked if we would play same system as Liverpool which is 3 forwards. With 3 holding midfielders and full backs bombing on as wingers
Not what we play which is 3 attacking midfielders bombing on to support 1 forward
ive never been wrapped up in numbers because teams dont play like that tbh....but your splitting hairs anyway as it really depends whats happening in the game as a whole or recently in that game as to how far forward the 2 wide forwards/ wingers/wide midfielders are.....but if you think we dont play with 3 breaking with pace eh oh.
Mate he asked if we would play the Liverpool formation.
If you don't know the difference between how a 433 and 451 work then really you are on wrong forum.
He asked would we play Liverpool formation and you said we already do. Not exactly splitting hairs am I
It really is splitting hairs, you’ve mentioned wingers and attacking midfielders as the same players in two different posts but they are two different positions so which is it?
Where people stand when the match kicks off is of little consequence really
Winger/wide attacking midfielder no difference.
Point is we don't play same formation or same tactics as Liverpool. Which is what you and dogfound said we do.
They use their pace on counterattack still passing from the back quickly to the front 3.
Our idea of counterattack is long ball from keeper or centre back for Zohore or hoilett/mendez to run on to.
The original post asked would/could we utilise Liverpool formation and tactics at home. The answer to which is NO we haven't got the personnel.
But you and dogfound make idiotic comments that we already play that way just because we have 3 fast players
Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:00 pm
Tony Blue Williams wrote:sid61284 wrote:
Winger/wide attacking midfielder no difference.
Point is we don't play same formation or same tactics as Liverpool. Which is what you and dogfound said we do.
They use their pace on counterattack still passing from the back quickly to the front 3.
Our idea of counterattack is long ball from keeper or centre back for Zohore or hoilett/mendez to run on to.
The original post asked would/could we utilise Liverpool formation and tactics at home. The answer to which is NO we haven't got the personnel.
But you and dogfound make idiotic comments that we already play that way just because we have 3 fast players
So both teams play counter attacking football with 3 forwards the difference being we slog it forward whilst Liverpool break using short passing and procession?
There is a slight difference in approach but you could argue that both teams rely on pace to catch out the opposition. I wouldn't say that Dogfound is completely right but neither was he completely wrong.
Wed Aug 01, 2018 1:11 am
Wed Aug 01, 2018 10:51 am
Wed Aug 01, 2018 1:39 pm
sid61284 wrote:Like I said original question was could we play Liverpool formation at home with 3 up top and 3 holding midfield.
Paul answered don't we already play that way? Dogfound answered yes. So there lads u both mentioned Liverpool
Wed Aug 01, 2018 1:53 pm
dogfound wrote:sid61284 wrote:Like I said original question was could we play Liverpool formation at home with 3 up top and 3 holding midfield.
Paul answered don't we already play that way? Dogfound answered yes. So there lads u both mentioned Liverpool
you contradicted yourself far too many times to be taken remotely seriously mate...
my advice is go down your local parks club,help out and listen...youll learn far more than you do on the mega drive.