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Dembele - Ramsey swap!?

Tue Jul 31, 2018 11:14 am

DEMBELE IN, RAMSEY OUT?

Arsenal are closing in on Barcelona winger Ousmane Dembele, according to reports in The Sun.

The club's summer spending looks close to being over - but the arrival of Dembele would provide a boost to Unai Emery, although The Sun reports the Catalan club want to take Aaron Ramsey as part of an exchange deal for the 21-year-old France international.

Ramsey was linked to Chelsea earlier this week and although Emery has said he wants to keep the Wales international at Arsenal, the Gunners are relatively blessed in central midfield, including Matteo Guendouzi, who impressed during the club's Asian tour.

Re: Dembele - Ramsey swap!?

Tue Jul 31, 2018 11:34 am

Swap?

Does that mean our sell-on fee goes out of the window? :o

Re: Dembele - Ramsey swap!?

Tue Jul 31, 2018 11:35 am

There's never been a sell on fee.

Re: Dembele - Ramsey swap!?

Tue Jul 31, 2018 11:40 am

Mr Shed wrote:There's never been a sell on fee.


Yeah, its non existent.

Re: Dembele - Ramsey swap!?

Tue Jul 31, 2018 11:45 am

Thanks to Mr Ridsdale. :evil:

Re: Dembele - Ramsey swap!?

Tue Jul 31, 2018 11:49 am

davids wrote:Swap?

Does that mean our sell-on fee goes out of the window? :o


:lol:
It went out the window when we didn't put it in.

Although annoying at the time of the deal 4.8m all upfront was pretty unheard of and meant PR could keep gambling away our club

Re: Dembele - Ramsey swap!?

Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:52 pm

im pretty sure that a sell on clause would only be enforceable during the first contract, as soon as you renew its gone. we didnt have one with rambo but if we did it would be gone now surely.

Re: Dembele - Ramsey swap!?

Tue Jul 31, 2018 1:19 pm

rustyblue wrote:im pretty sure that a sell on clause would only be enforceable during the first contract, as soon as you renew its gone. we didnt have one with rambo but if we did it would be gone now surely.


If that was the case they could change a contract after 1 day. The sell on clause would always be there if we had one that is...

Re: Dembele - Ramsey swap!?

Tue Jul 31, 2018 2:36 pm

I'd love to see Ramsey at Barca.

Re: Dembele - Ramsey swap!?

Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:15 pm

nubbsy wrote:I'd love to see Ramsey at Barca.


Me too :thumbright:

Re: Dembele - Ramsey swap!?

Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:17 pm

rustyblue wrote:im pretty sure that a sell on clause would only be enforceable during the first contract, as soon as you renew its gone. we didnt have one with rambo but if we did it would be gone now surely.

Sell on clause has nothing to do with a players contract.

It’s between the two clubs.

Re: Dembele - Ramsey swap!?

Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:25 pm

They recently spent 105 million EUR on Dembele. Surely not going to do a straight swap for Ramsey?

Re: Dembele - Ramsey swap!?

Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:48 pm

JimCP91 wrote:They recently spent 105 million EUR on Dembele. Surely not going to do a straight swap for Ramsey?


What would Ramsey be valued at if he had 4 years left on his contract? in todays market it wouldn't be far off that figure, don't you think?

Re: Dembele - Ramsey swap!?

Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:51 pm

CaerphillyBluebird15 wrote:
JimCP91 wrote:They recently spent 105 million EUR on Dembele. Surely not going to do a straight swap for Ramsey?


What would Ramsey be valued at if he had 4 years left on his contract? in todays market it wouldn't be far off that figure, don't you think?


But he doesn't and Dembele is 21.

If Barca were to sell Dembele, they would make far more money than the amount they would have to pay to purchase Ramsey. Therefore, a straight swap deal makes no sense.

Re: Dembele - Ramsey swap!?

Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:56 pm

JimCP91 wrote:
CaerphillyBluebird15 wrote:
JimCP91 wrote:They recently spent 105 million EUR on Dembele. Surely not going to do a straight swap for Ramsey?


What would Ramsey be valued at if he had 4 years left on his contract? in todays market it wouldn't be far off that figure, don't you think?


But he doesn't and Dembele is 21.

If Barca were to sell Dembele, they would make far more money than the amount they would have to pay to purchase Ramsey. Therefore, a straight swap deal makes no sense.


You're missing the point... If he stays at Arsenal then he will sign a new contract which will instantly increase his value.
If Barca wanted him then there's no need to sign one... Also, he's worth what Barca want to pay for him ( Dembele ).

Its all speculation but there could even be cash on top from Arsenals end..

Re: Dembele - Ramsey swap!?

Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:52 pm

CaerphillyBluebird15 wrote:
nubbsy wrote:I'd love to see Ramsey at Barca.


Me too :thumbright:


I said over a year ago on this forum that Barca were interested in Rambo and i was told by people close to him.
The transfer embargo and the knocks and time away from game time played a part in this not happening .
Having said that Arsenal's new manager made a point from day 1 - The part/role he wants from Rambo .

Re: Dembele - Ramsey swap!?

Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:04 pm

CaerphillyBluebird15 wrote:
JimCP91 wrote:
CaerphillyBluebird15 wrote:
JimCP91 wrote:They recently spent 105 million EUR on Dembele. Surely not going to do a straight swap for Ramsey?


What would Ramsey be valued at if he had 4 years left on his contract? in todays market it wouldn't be far off that figure, don't you think?


But he doesn't and Dembele is 21.

If Barca were to sell Dembele, they would make far more money than the amount they would have to pay to purchase Ramsey. Therefore, a straight swap deal makes no sense.


You're missing the point... If he stays at Arsenal then he will sign a new contract which will instantly increase his value.
If Barca wanted him then there's no need to sign one... Also, he's worth what Barca want to pay for him ( Dembele ).

Its all speculation but there could even be cash on top from Arsenals end..


I’m not missing any points. Dembele was bought for over 100 EUR last summer, and is 21. Ramsey is 28 and has 1 year left on his contract. In his current contractual position, Ramsey is worth no more than 40 mill.

Arsenal can keep Ramsey, and he could go for free in the summer. Dembele is worth exactly what Barca paid for him next summer, if not more.

It would make 0% sense to swap a player worth minimum 100% more, that you can get free next year. I would love to see Rambo at Barca, but no way is he going for a straight swap deal with Dembele.

Re: Dembele - Ramsey swap!?

Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:05 am

JimCP91 wrote:
CaerphillyBluebird15 wrote:
JimCP91 wrote:
CaerphillyBluebird15 wrote:
JimCP91 wrote:They recently spent 105 million EUR on Dembele. Surely not going to do a straight swap for Ramsey?


What would Ramsey be valued at if he had 4 years left on his contract? in todays market it wouldn't be far off that figure, don't you think?


But he doesn't and Dembele is 21.

If Barca were to sell Dembele, they would make far more money than the amount they would have to pay to purchase Ramsey. Therefore, a straight swap deal makes no sense.


You're missing the point... If he stays at Arsenal then he will sign a new contract which will instantly increase his value.
If Barca wanted him then there's no need to sign one... Also, he's worth what Barca want to pay for him ( Dembele ).

Its all speculation but there could even be cash on top from Arsenals end..


I’m not missing any points. Dembele was bought for over 100 EUR last summer, and is 21. Ramsey is 28 and has 1 year left on his contract. In his current contractual position, Ramsey is worth no more than 40 mill.

Arsenal can keep Ramsey, and he could go for free in the summer. Dembele is worth exactly what Barca paid for him next summer, if not more.

It would make 0% sense to swap a player worth minimum 100% more, that you can get free next year. I would love to see Rambo at Barca, but no way is he going for a straight swap deal with Dembele.


Jesus :banghead: