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Grujic.....whats your feeling?

Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:01 am

As times gone on I think the deals stalled he's not 100% committed and don't feel he'll be joining us. Just wondering what the majority feel.

Re: Grujic.....whats your feeling?

Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:20 am

my feeling is i hope its settled one way or another soon as the endless talk is getting tiresome.

Re: Grujic.....whats your feeling?

Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:24 am

I suppose City are looking at the cheaper option of bringing him in on loan and paying his wages/part of but the way it’s dragged on perhaps it would have been worthwhile to get a similar player in for pre season.

The start of the season is nearly upon us and by all reports Gunner isn’t up to speed at the moment. Could have done with another player coming in 2/3 weeks ago as this episode has just dragged on.

Re: Grujic.....whats your feeling?

Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:40 am

I’ll think he will sign on loan,makes a lot of sense in all involved.
What concerns me a bit is the way he fell out of favour at the end of last season including the final game.

Re: Grujic.....whats your feeling?

Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:01 am

theclaw wrote:I’ll think he will sign on loan,makes a lot of sense in all involved.
What concerns me a bit is the way he fell out of favour at the end of last season including the final game.



Totally agree, it was nothing to do with ability, I think his inexperience told in the last few games.

He was always just one rash challenge away from a red card, so quite rightly as it turned out Warnock turned to his more experienced and trusted players

Re: Grujic.....whats your feeling?

Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:03 am

paulh_85 wrote:my feeling is i hope its settled one way or another soon as the endless talk is getting tiresome.


Agree, we need a player in by Saturday so at least he can get one pre season friendly under his belt

The Grujic saga has gone on for months now

Re: Grujic.....whats your feeling?

Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:30 am

Move on there’s much better out there wasn’t overly impressed with him if I am honest

Re: Grujic.....whats your feeling?

Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:58 am

If he wanted to join us he would have done so by now. He fancies Lazio. Don't blame him but stop f***ing us about. Can you imagine the abuse he will get if he's having a stinker. Get a midfielder who wants to play for us.

Re: Grujic.....whats your feeling?

Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:14 am

Bluesman wrote:If he wanted to join us he would have done so by now. He fancies Lazio. Don't blame him but stop f***ing us about. Can you imagine the abuse he will get if he's having a stinker. Get a midfielder who wants to play for us.


By the same logic wouldn't he have joined Lazio by now if he wanted to join them. I think these deals are a lot more complex than that, firstly it's out of his hands anyway. I haven't seen anything to suggest he doesn't want to play for us or that he wouldn't give 100% if he did join us.

Re: Grujic.....whats your feeling?

Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:51 am

His agent is probably advising him to hold on as long as possible to get the best deal. Wonder what sort of pre-season he's had.

Re: Grujic.....whats your feeling?

Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:38 am

Maybe the club is waiting to last minute to save on wages? Afterall he hasn't gone elsewhere and if agent was that good he would have him sign for another club before now? Looking at other clubs it looks like a lot of last minute deals going to be done. :old:

Re: Grujic.....whats your feeling?

Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:54 am

llangainbluebird wrote:His agent is probably advising him to hold on as long as possible to get the best deal. Wonder what sort of pre-season he's had.



ive read this a number of times on here , dont get this train of thought, and never heard it before over a loan signing.surely his wages from the Liverpool contract stand and its a matter who pays what percentage of those wages between ourselves and Liverpool..
any money we are prepared to pay over and above would surely go to his club in form of loan fee.?

Re: Grujic.....whats your feeling?

Tue Jul 31, 2018 11:10 am

Bluesman wrote:If he wanted to join us he would have done so by now. He fancies Lazio. Don't blame him but stop f***ing us about. Can you imagine the abuse he will get if he's having a stinker. Get a midfielder who wants to play for us.



players dont just waltz into the managers office...oi mr manager bloke dont bother taking me to the USA or France i fancy a loan to Lazio..
your putting the cart before the horse mate....a player will only be given the choice in where to go on loan if the club holding the contract give him the choice..
any abuse would be by complete idiots .

Re: Grujic.....whats your feeling?

Tue Jul 31, 2018 11:35 am

I also think Liverpool wanted to see him in pre-season to see how he has progressed before making a final decision on him. Also they probably wanted to get through most of pre-season to see if they avoided injuries. As people well know if you get an injury in pre-season it is likely to impact you for the rest of the season, even if you recover missing part of pre-season puts you at a disadvantage. Few loans are done very early in the transfer window for these reasons.

Anyway, if he comes I think it will be on loan and I think he will do well for us. His time with us last season will have toughened him up a bit and that will benefit him this year. Saying that, I won't be too upset if he doesn't come as long as we have a decent replacement, such as gosling.

Re: Grujic.....whats your feeling?

Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:28 pm

dogfound wrote:
llangainbluebird wrote:His agent is probably advising him to hold on as long as possible to get the best deal. Wonder what sort of pre-season he's had.



ive read this a number of times on here , dont get this train of thought, and never heard it before over a loan signing.surely his wages from the Liverpool contract stand and its a matter who pays what percentage of those wages between ourselves and Liverpool..
any money we are prepared to pay over and above would surely go to his club in form of loan fee.?


Was thinking more about a possible permanent move somewhere, but you make a good point regarding a loan, to us, or anywhere else.

Re: Grujic.....whats your feeling?

Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:39 pm

llangainbluebird wrote:
dogfound wrote:
llangainbluebird wrote:His agent is probably advising him to hold on as long as possible to get the best deal. Wonder what sort of pre-season he's had.



ive read this a number of times on here , dont get this train of thought, and never heard it before over a loan signing.surely his wages from the Liverpool contract stand and its a matter who pays what percentage of those wages between ourselves and Liverpool..
any money we are prepared to pay over and above would surely go to his club in form of loan fee.?


Was thinking more about a possible permanent move somewhere, but you make a good point regarding a loan, to us, or anywhere else.



permanent yes makes sense..
but i have read an article by a journo on here suggesting this haggling for more cash thing..
made me think..if a player could get his wages plus more off a loaning club they would all want to be on loan..

Re: Grujic.....whats your feeling?

Tue Jul 31, 2018 1:50 pm

Think Liverpool want to sell but no one really wants to pay £20 mil quoted. Cardiff want to loan, mabe option to buy for something like 5-10mil? So hope someone makes a decision and its sorted cause the window is closing soon.

Re: Grujic.....whats your feeling?

Tue Jul 31, 2018 2:04 pm

Logie wrote:Think Liverpool want to sell but no one really wants to pay £20 mil quoted. Cardiff want to loan, mabe option to buy for something like 5-10mil? So hope someone makes a decision and its sorted cause the window is closing soon.



Liverpool have included him in both squads for trips to the USA and France...while leaving others youd expect to be taken out..
based on what happens at most clubs including ours { tomlin ,camp,pilks etc with the u23s not the 1st team } sounds to me like he is closer to being kept than unwanted...

Re: Grujic.....whats your feeling?

Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:05 pm

Bluesman wrote:If he wanted to join us he would have done so by now. He fancies Lazio. Don't blame him but stop f***ing us about. Can you imagine the abuse he will get if he's having a stinker. Get a midfielder who wants to play for us.


Spot On :thumbup:

Re: Grujic.....whats your feeling?

Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:09 pm

Should have been a third option of 'don't care'
This endless press nonsense seems to be exaggerating his importance. Yes he's got some potential , but you couldn't say fir certain that he'd get in the team - he didn't always in the championship and Liverpool don't play him in the premiership

I'd have been for taking him in the hope that he'd develop and be a useful player in a few months, but at this stage I'd tend to tell them to keep him.

Re: Grujic.....whats your feeling?

Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:11 pm

Mind you, I'm guessing that Sir Neil knows he's coming, or he'd have made other arrangements by now