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15m?

Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:48 am

Undecided on this one 30 years of age a lot of money but the guy scores goals in all fairness to him bit part player last season think is wages may be a stumbling block to be honest and would he want to come to us certainly think he’s a strong character so wouldn’t take any messing

Re: 15m

Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:54 am

I think its an okay price for his experience.

People are calling for 15 to 20 goal a season experience but we are not going to get that. Not for under £30m - £40m

Re: 15m

Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:59 am

Yea don’t think many get 15-20 in the prem you a bit special if you do

Re: 15m

Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:24 am

probably the going rate in this over inflated transfer market, if the signing was to keep us up, would be worth another 100mill.
would also rip the championship apart.

Re: 15m

Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:28 am

fred keenor wrote:probably the going rate in this over inflated transfer market, if the signing was to keep us up, would be worth another 100mill.
would also rip the championship apart.



Not totally convinced that Troy Deeney is the answer when you have Solomon Rondon or Ahmed Musa available for the same sort of money. On the other hand 15m today for a striker is peanuts. There are many players being bought by Championship clubs in excess of that figure.

Yes, he is 30 but he can score and he does have that Premiership experience. To put in into context just look at the silly fees being paid for many footballers. 15m is pocket money compared to those.

Re: 15m

Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:41 am

Paying a couple it mill more for Ronson makes so much more sense to me and would still have a good resale value.

Re: 15m

Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:53 am

2blue2handle wrote:Paying a couple it mill more for Ronson makes so much more sense to me and would still have a good resale value.


I agree and that's why I don't think this rumour has any legs. NW is signing young hungry players with legs and this is a signing that don't fit our thinking now

Re: 15m

Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:55 am

keano wrote:Undecided on this one 30 years of age a lot of money but the guy scores goals in all fairness to him bit part player last season think is wages may be a stumbling block to be honest and would he want to come to us certainly think he’s a strong character so wouldn’t take any messing


Why did you start a thread that was already covering the topic? :? :roll:

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Re: 15m?

Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:27 am

What’s the point having a message board if you can’t post your opinion sven

Re: 15m

Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:37 am

2blue2handle wrote:Paying a couple it mill more for Ronson makes so much more sense to me and would still have a good resale value.


So you'd pay more money for a player who doesn't score as many goals, just because he is 15 months younger?

I can see your logic there mate

Re: 15m

Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:11 am

sid61284 wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:Paying a couple it mill more for Ronson makes so much more sense to me and would still have a good resale value.


So you'd pay more money for a player who doesn't score as many goals, just because he is 15 months younger?

I can see your logic there mate


I don't think that was my logic :lol:

I thought Ronson scored more goals last season? I don't know, how many did each score last season.

But yeah I would much prefer a striker we can sell on next season should we go down. I would think at 31 next season Deeney won't have to many knocking the door down. 15m on deeney is dead money imo unless we stay up.

Re: 15m?

Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:13 am

I don't want to be negative but I hope this doesn't go through. IMO there are better options for around £15 million! People talking about ...can Wanock pull it off ....as if it would be a great coup!!
Deeny has been a good player and is still OK BUT IMO he would not be good enough to MAKE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN US STAYING IN THE Pre m or going down. Also....
1/ he is overpriced. In 2 to 3 years he will be worth very little. Maybe a couple of million. Compare that to the £20 mill for Mitrovic at 22 years and in a 5 year deal!
2/ he is a bit part player these days for Watford. The same Watford as are in our mini league fighting to stay up!! If they thought he was good enough they would not sell to us.

While I appreciate that Pre m experience is important I would prefer to get a quality player with great potential even if it's on loan (e.g. Tammy Abrahams), rather than pay a lot (in terms of Cardiff) for a player of lesser quality who will be worth little in a couple of years. Just my opinion and
obviously if Deeny does come he'll have my 100% support and I'm sure he'll do OK. :bluebird:

Re: 15m

Tue Jul 31, 2018 11:32 am

2blue2handle wrote:Paying a couple it mill more for Ronson makes so much more sense to me and would still have a good resale value.


Loved Billy Ronson back in the day mate but I think that even at the height of his career he probably wasn't worth £15m!

Think he was our record signing at the time we bought him? Can't remember how much we paid.

RIP Billy.

Re: 15m

Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:42 pm

2blue2handle wrote:
sid61284 wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:Paying a couple it mill more for Ronson makes so much more sense to me and would still have a good resale value.


So you'd pay more money for a player who doesn't score as many goals, just because he is 15 months younger?

I can see your logic there mate


I don't think that was my logic :lol:

I thought Ronson scored more goals last season? I don't know, how many did each score last season.

But yeah I would much prefer a striker we can sell on next season should we go down. I would think at 31 next season Deeney won't have to many knocking the door down. 15m on deeney is dead money imo unless we stay up.


Deeney scored 5 in 29
Rondon scored 7 in 37 and has never gone above 9 in Premier league.

I think Deeney is the better player and would have as much sell on value as Rondon if relegated and probably lower wages

Re: 15m

Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:55 pm

sid61284 wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:
sid61284 wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:Paying a couple it mill more for Ronson makes so much more sense to me and would still have a good resale value.


So you'd pay more money for a player who doesn't score as many goals, just because he is 15 months younger?

I can see your logic there mate


I don't think that was my logic :lol:

I thought Ronson scored more goals last season? I don't know, how many did each score last season.

But yeah I would much prefer a striker we can sell on next season should we go down. I would think at 31 next season Deeney won't have to many knocking the door down. 15m on deeney is dead money imo unless we stay up.


Deeney scored 5 in 29
Rondon scored 7 in 37 and has never gone above 9 in Premier league.

I think Deeney is the better player and would have as much sell on value as Rondon if relegated and probably lower wages


Not a huge amount between them, suppose you also have to consider that Watford scored 44 goals over the season and WBA only 31.

Not sure about the values myself, if Newcastle are still keen to meet his buy out clause Rondon value has more than held after relegation. At 31 next season im not sure Deeneys will hold to the level we paid, infact my biggest concern is he could flop and we be stuck with him on a big wage not in the team.

if we really are willing to spent all that money on a striker then surely we must also have good money left for midfield.

Re: 15m?

Tue Jul 31, 2018 1:04 pm

keano wrote:What’s the point having a message board if you can’t post your opinion sven


Who said you couldn't post? :?

Get it right and try to answer the actual question when you're on the defensive! ;)

We tolerate your (usually negative) views on a consistent basis and my point was there were already at least 3 other threads in place on the subject... :roll:

Re: 15m

Tue Jul 31, 2018 1:40 pm

Sven wrote:
keano wrote:Undecided on this one 30 years of age a lot of money but the guy scores goals in all fairness to him bit part player last season think is wages may be a stumbling block to be honest and would he want to come to us certainly think he’s a strong character so wouldn’t take any messing


Why did you start a thread that was already covering the topic? :? :roll:

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viewtopic.php?f=2&t=198719

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=198718



its a change from the unfounded copy and paste Grujic stickies..?

Re: 15m

Tue Jul 31, 2018 2:13 pm

2blue2handle wrote:
sid61284 wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:
sid61284 wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:Paying a couple it mill more for Ronson makes so much more sense to me and would still have a good resale value.


So you'd pay more money for a player who doesn't score as many goals, just because he is 15 months younger?

I can see your logic there mate


I don't think that was my logic :lol:

I thought Ronson scored more goals last season? I don't know, how many did each score last season.

But yeah I would much prefer a striker we can sell on next season should we go down. I would think at 31 next season Deeney won't have to many knocking the door down. 15m on deeney is dead money imo unless we stay up.


Deeney scored 5 in 29
Rondon scored 7 in 37 and has never gone above 9 in Premier league.

I think Deeney is the better player and would have as much sell on value as Rondon if relegated and probably lower wages


Not a huge amount between them, suppose you also have to consider that Watford scored 44 goals over the season and WBA only 31.

Not sure about the values myself, if Newcastle are still keen to meet his buy out clause Rondon value has more than held after relegation. At 31 next season im not sure Deeneys will hold to the level we paid, infact my biggest concern is he could flop and we be stuck with him on a big wage not in the team.

if we really are willing to spent all that money on a striker then surely we must also have good money left for midfield.


Yes but that was more or less a normal season for Rondon. Where as Deeney was off the rails compared to previous years.

Deeney only started 20 games to Rondon 33.

Re: 15m?

Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:30 pm

Ronson was a cigarette lighter?

Re: 15m?

Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:38 pm

montyblue wrote:Ronson was a cigarette lighter?



i think they still make them.

Re: 15m?

Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:54 pm

Sparked my first joint with a ronson the name must have logged in my head.

Re: 15m?

Thu Aug 02, 2018 3:54 pm

montyblue wrote:Sparked my first joint with a ronson the name must have logged in my head.


How the f**k do you know that :laughing5:

Re: 15m?

Thu Aug 02, 2018 4:41 pm

CAERPHILLY BLUEBIRD
I remember because I did' nt burn all my cells out because i was only just starting plus the lighter was a pressy off the misses.