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THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MALKY AND NEIL WARNOCK'S SIGNINGS?

Fri Jun 29, 2018 5:30 pm

The big difference is pace. Malky never really addressed it, but Neil Warnock's signings have pace!

I've got a better feeling this time about being able to stay up

I feel the side us more balanced and will fight more for survival! :thumbup: :ayatollah:

Re: Difference from malky to Warnock transfers

Fri Jun 29, 2018 5:36 pm

Agree mate, few more signings and our squad will realy start to look strono enough to compete with those out of the top six.

I think you said but don't want to put words in your mouth that there's not a huge gulf between bottom ten in Premiership and top ten in championship and I agree.

Re: Difference from malky to Warnock transfers

Fri Jun 29, 2018 5:40 pm

The summer under Malky we had no structure. We signed 2 right backs then started Connolly at RB in the first game. The one position we really needed to improve on more than anywhere was upfront and well we got Cornelius.

We still need at least 2 CMs and a right back but I'm a lot more hopeful in these deals and the manager.

Re: Difference from malky to Warnock transfers

Fri Jun 29, 2018 5:58 pm

RV Casual wrote:Agree mate, few more signings and our squad will realy start to look strono enough to compete with those out of the top six.

I think you said but don't want to put words in your mouth that there's not a huge gulf between bottom ten in Premiership and top ten in championship and I agree.

I agree I dont think there's much difference in the bottom 10 and top 10 of the championship ,I feel we are more balanced tbis time and the squad is better

Re: Difference from malky to Warnock transfers

Fri Jun 29, 2018 6:08 pm

Well Steve Borley told me Warnock doesn’t know how to txt :thumbright: and doesn’t own a mobile, old school lol.

Re: Difference from malky to Warnock transfers

Fri Jun 29, 2018 6:13 pm

Bay Blue wrote:Well Steve Borley told me Warnock doesn’t know how to txt :thumbright: and doesn’t own a mobile, old school lol.

:lol:

Re: Difference from malky to Warnock transfers

Fri Jun 29, 2018 6:18 pm

I think Warnock just tells Dalman and Choo the players he wants and they do the negotiations after checking with Tan that he’s happy with the budget.
Once price agreed, Warnock does his charm offensive with the player?

Re: Difference from malky to Warnock transfers

Fri Jun 29, 2018 6:19 pm

HarriRhys22 wrote:I think Warnock just tells Dalman and Choo the players he wants and they do the negotiations after checking with Tan that he’s happy with the budget.
Once price agreed, Warnock does his charm offensive with the player?

Probably how it works

Re: Difference from malky to Warnock transfers

Fri Jun 29, 2018 10:37 pm

Bay Blue wrote:Well Steve Borley told me Warnock doesn’t know how to txt :thumbright: and doesn’t own a mobile, old school lol.


Well he answered it during an interview after we got promoted and it was his daughter Congratulating him, it was on the BBC site.

Re: Difference from malky to Warnock transfers

Fri Jun 29, 2018 11:44 pm

wez1927 wrote:The big difference is pace, malky never really addressed it but warnocks signings have pace ,I've got a better feeling this time about being able to stay up .I feel the side us more balanced and will fight more for survival


Have to agree with you here and to top it off they are all British

Re: Difference from malky to Warnock transfers

Sat Jun 30, 2018 1:35 am

2blue2handle wrote:The summer under Malky we had no structure. We signed 2 right backs then started Connolly at RB in the first game. The one position we really needed to improve on more than anywhere was upfront and well we got Cornelius.

We still need at least 2 CMs and a right back but I'm a lot more hopeful in these deals and the manager.



i think Warnock feels he has something to prove and knows how horribly wrong it can go if not careful and his signings seem to reflect that.

not sure Malky fully understood tbh..your correct there was no structure { which is strange because he had been all about structure } it was almost as if he felt it would work no matter what and if not he would just toddle off and manage Everton or someone.

Re: Difference from malky to Warnock transfers

Sat Jun 30, 2018 6:52 am

He is trying to bring in players potentially
Strong enough but without the baggage of
Ego and with the buy in to being a team squad
Who will work for each other

Hes learned that a big name or big talent can be big trouble

Re: Difference from malky to Warnock transfers

Sat Jun 30, 2018 6:58 am

eddiep wrote:He is trying to bring in players potentially
Strong enough but without the baggage of
Ego and with the buy in to being a team squad
Who will work for each other

Hes learned that a big name or big talent can be big trouble

who was trouble then? the new recruits were poorly treated by the club and most hardly played

Re: Difference from malky to Warnock transfers

Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:01 am

dogfound wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:The summer under Malky we had no structure. We signed 2 right backs then started Connolly at RB in the first game. The one position we really needed to improve on more than anywhere was upfront and well we got Cornelius.

We still need at least 2 CMs and a right back but I'm a lot more hopeful in these deals and the manager.



i think Warnock feels he has something to prove and knows how horribly wrong it can go if not careful and his signings seem to reflect that.

not sure Malky fully understood tbh..your correct there was no structure { which is strange because he had been all about structure } it was almost as if he felt it would work no matter what and if not he would just toddle off and manage Everton or someone.

After the promotion Malky really let himself and the club down. Terrible business Medel aside

Re: Difference from malky to Warnock transfers

Sat Jun 30, 2018 9:10 am

dogfound wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:The summer under Malky we had no structure. We signed 2 right backs then started Connolly at RB in the first game. The one position we really needed to improve on more than anywhere was upfront and well we got Cornelius.

We still need at least 2 CMs and a right back but I'm a lot more hopeful in these deals and the manager.



i think Warnock feels he has something to prove and knows how horribly wrong it can go if not careful and his signings seem to reflect that.

not sure Malky fully understood tbh..your correct there was no structure { which is strange because he had been all about structure } it was almost as if he felt it would work no matter what and if not he would just toddle off and manage Everton or someone.


Exactly how I seen it.

Re: Difference from malky to Warnock transfers

Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:03 am

ThomasC wrote:
eddiep wrote:He is trying to bring in players potentially
Strong enough but without the baggage of
Ego and with the buy in to being a team squad
Who will work for each other

Hes learned that a big name or big talent can be big trouble

who was trouble then? the new recruits were poorly treated by the club and most hardly played


Ask Neil.

Yes spoken about his dislike of premier league in the past
I think he has learned from it and will be better for it

Re: Difference from malky to Warnock transfers

Sat Jun 30, 2018 1:01 pm

dogfound wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:The summer under Malky we had no structure. We signed 2 right backs then started Connolly at RB in the first game. The one position we really needed to improve on more than anywhere was upfront and well we got Cornelius.

We still need at least 2 CMs and a right back but I'm a lot more hopeful in these deals and the manager.



i think Warnock feels he has something to prove and knows how horribly wrong it can go if not careful and his signings seem to reflect that.

not sure Malky fully understood tbh..your correct there was no structure { which is strange because he had been all about structure } it was almost as if he felt it would work no matter what and if not he would just toddle off and manage Everton or someone.


Totally agree. MM was given a budget of £25m and thought his job was to spend it. What it was spent on seemed to be a secondary concern.

Also often overlooked was the discarding of Rudy Gestede for £300k. I'm not saying RG would have been our saviour but he would have been a far better option than Acorn who as legend has it we paid £7.5m to get along with £45kpw wages.

Re: Difference from malky to Warnock transfers

Sat Jun 30, 2018 1:05 pm

ThomasC wrote:
dogfound wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:The summer under Malky we had no structure. We signed 2 right backs then started Connolly at RB in the first game. The one position we really needed to improve on more than anywhere was upfront and well we got Cornelius.

We still need at least 2 CMs and a right back but I'm a lot more hopeful in these deals and the manager.



i think Warnock feels he has something to prove and knows how horribly wrong it can go if not careful and his signings seem to reflect that.

not sure Malky fully understood tbh..your correct there was no structure { which is strange because he had been all about structure } it was almost as if he felt it would work no matter what and if not he would just toddle off and manage Everton or someone.

After the promotion Malky really let himself and the club down. Terrible business Medel aside


I will always hold MM in esteem for the Championship winning season but as a Premier manager he was hopeless and out of his depth. Also the way he used the fans in his dispute with Tan was unforgivable.

Re: Difference from malky to Warnock transfers

Sat Jun 30, 2018 3:04 pm

Malky didn't replace enough average quality players out of their depth in the Premier. That was his biggest mistake.

Who on earth would ever have believed the following motley crew would have had any chance at the highest level? :

Taylor
Cowie
Turner
Whittingham
John
Maynard
Noone
Brayford
McNaughton
Hudson

Enough said

Re: Difference from malky to Warnock transfers

Sat Jun 30, 2018 4:37 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
dogfound wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:The summer under Malky we had no structure. We signed 2 right backs then started Connolly at RB in the first game. The one position we really needed to improve on more than anywhere was upfront and well we got Cornelius.

We still need at least 2 CMs and a right back but I'm a lot more hopeful in these deals and the manager.



i think Warnock feels he has something to prove and knows how horribly wrong it can go if not careful and his signings seem to reflect that.

not sure Malky fully understood tbh..your correct there was no structure { which is strange because he had been all about structure } it was almost as if he felt it would work no matter what and if not he would just toddle off and manage Everton or someone.


Totally agree. MM was given a budget of £25m and thought his job was to spend it. What it was spent on seemed to be a secondary concern.

Also often overlooked was the discarding of Rudy Gestede for £300k. I'm not saying RG would have been our saviour but he would have been a far better option than Acorn who as legend has it we paid £7.5m to get along with £45kpw wages.


I think MM spent £39 mil (+ signing on fees etc) which makes his premier league preparations even more woeful!

Re: Difference from malky to Warnock transfers

Sat Jun 30, 2018 4:46 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
ThomasC wrote:
dogfound wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:The summer under Malky we had no structure. We signed 2 right backs then started Connolly at RB in the first game. The one position we really needed to improve on more than anywhere was upfront and well we got Cornelius.

We still need at least 2 CMs and a right back but I'm a lot more hopeful in these deals and the manager.



i think Warnock feels he has something to prove and knows how horribly wrong it can go if not careful and his signings seem to reflect that.

not sure Malky fully understood tbh..your correct there was no structure { which is strange because he had been all about structure } it was almost as if he felt it would work no matter what and if not he would just toddle off and manage Everton or someone.

After the promotion Malky really let himself and the club down. Terrible business Medel aside


I will always hold MM in esteem for the Championship winning season but as a Premier manager he was hopeless and out of his depth. Also the way he used the fans in his dispute with Tan was unforgivable.

I also hold Malky in esteem for the championship winning season , not sure he used the fans in his dispute with Tan. Tan was already unpopular and a lot of fans rode this bandwagon and supported Malky before the full details came out. I feel Malky was the author of his own disaster. Having said this I feel M alky would have done just enough to keep us there,the cunumdrum was do you sack your manager just before the start of the new season?

Re: Difference from malky to Warnock transfers

Sat Jun 30, 2018 5:07 pm

City Slicker wrote:Malky didn't replace enough average quality players out of their depth in the Premier. That was his biggest mistake.

Who on earth would ever have believed the following motley crew would have had any chance at the highest level? :

Taylor
Cowie
Turner
Whittingham
John
Maynard
Noone
Brayford
McNaughton
Hudson

Enough said

Bit harsh on some players in that list.
Whittingham especially

Re: Difference from malky to Warnock transfers

Sat Jun 30, 2018 5:11 pm

Llan_Blue wrote:
City Slicker wrote:Malky didn't replace enough average quality players out of their depth in the Premier. That was his biggest mistake.

Who on earth would ever have believed the following motley crew would have had any chance at the highest level? :

Taylor
Cowie
Turner
Whittingham
John
Maynard
Noone
Brayford
McNaughton
Hudson

Enough said

Bit harsh on some players in that list.
Whittingham especially


I don't think so, all light years below Premier quality, particularly him

Re: Difference from malky to Warnock transfers

Sat Jun 30, 2018 5:24 pm

City Slicker wrote:
Llan_Blue wrote:
City Slicker wrote:Malky didn't replace enough average quality players out of their depth in the Premier. That was his biggest mistake.

Who on earth would ever have believed the following motley crew would have had any chance at the highest level? :

Taylor
Cowie
Turner
Whittingham
John
Maynard
Noone
Brayford
McNaughton
Hudson

Enough said

Bit harsh on some players in that list.
Whittingham especially


I don't think so, all light years below Premier quality, particularly him

Agree I think our current squad us light years better than malkys

Re: THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MALKY AND NEIL WARNOCK'S SIGNINGS

Sat Jun 30, 2018 6:29 pm

When you list the players we had you’re right we had no chance! Whitts got blown away in the middle, remember him chasing shadows

Re: Difference from malky to Warnock transfers

Sat Jun 30, 2018 8:59 pm

2blue2handle wrote:
Bay Blue wrote:Well Steve Borley told me Warnock doesn’t know how to txt :thumbright: and doesn’t own a mobile, old school lol.


Well he answered it during an interview after we got promoted and it was his daughter Congratulating him, it was on the BBC site.


Can’t believe you fell for that dude, obviously a joke :lol:

Re: Difference from malky to Warnock transfers

Sat Jun 30, 2018 9:22 pm

eddiep wrote:
ThomasC wrote:
eddiep wrote:He is trying to bring in players potentially
Strong enough but without the baggage of
Ego and with the buy in to being a team squad
Who will work for each other

Hes learned that a big name or big talent can be big trouble

who was trouble then? the new recruits were poorly treated by the club and most hardly played


Ask Neil.

Yes spoken about his dislike of premier league in the past
I think he has learned from it and will be better for it

I got the wrong end of the stick here mate, thought u meant about Malky. talking about Warnock :lol: oooh cider what u do to me :occasion5:

Re: Difference from malky to Warnock transfers

Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:01 pm

Bay Blue wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:
Bay Blue wrote:Well Steve Borley told me Warnock doesn’t know how to txt :thumbright: and doesn’t own a mobile, old school lol.


Well he answered it during an interview after we got promoted and it was his daughter Congratulating him, it was on the BBC site.


Can’t believe you fell for that dude, obviously a joke :lol:


Sorry my mistake thought jokes were funny :occasion5: :lol:

Re: Difference from malky to Warnock transfers

Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:09 pm

2blue2handle wrote:
Bay Blue wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:
Bay Blue wrote:Well Steve Borley told me Warnock doesn’t know how to txt :thumbright: and doesn’t own a mobile, old school lol.


Well he answered it during an interview after we got promoted and it was his daughter Congratulating him, it was on the BBC site.


Can’t believe you fell for that dude, obviously a joke :lol:


Sorry my mistake thought jokes were funny :occasion5: :lol:


Yes obvious mistake :shock:
I’ll let you off that 1 lol