Tommy Robinson

Im part of the "tommy is an idiot" brigade and have been for some time now. The whole shouting in peoples faces with his phone pointed at them and agressive mannor doesnt do it for me, there is a sensible solution to this paticular situation we find ourselves in today but thats an entirely different post

Like I said ive thought for some time now that tommy robinson is a numpty but after him being sent to prison i cant help but think hes actually planned it quite well and could even profit from his time in prison.

He knew there was a reporting ban on the trial that he was arrested at as he mentioned it in his live feed yet chose to report anyway jepordising the case where potentially those animals could of walked free. His popularity has gone up massively since, people protesting all over social media and protesting in london. Its quite clear too see that by playing on peoples fears hes making a big name for himself, politically (or maybe socially/public figure) what ever it may be maybe he isnt such the numpty i thought and quite a smart business man ? I personally think the whole prison thing will make him lots of money due to the increase in popularity. Opinions ?

Im part of the "tommy is an idiot" brigade and have been for some time now. The whole shouting in peoples faces with his phone pointed at them and agressive mannor doesnt do it for me, there is a sensible solution to this paticular situation we find ourselves in today but thats an entirely different post

Like I said ive thought for some time now that tommy robinson is a numpty but after him being sent to prison i cant help but think hes actually planned it quite well and could even profit from his time in prison.

He knew there was a reporting ban on the trial that he was arrested at as he mentioned it in his live feed yet chose to report anyway jepordising the case where potentially those animals could of walked free. His popularity has gone up massively since, people protesting all over social media and protesting in london. Its quite clear too see that by playing on peoples fears hes making a big name for himself, politically (or maybe socially/public figure) what ever it may be maybe he isnt such the numpty i thought and quite a smart business man ? I personally think the whole prison thing will make him lots of money due to the increase in popularity. Opinions ?

why are there reporting bans n these trials..?
your missing the point mate.
these are vile crimes against the weakest in our society and you think its ok to hide them.?

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Was going to post something similar. Mans a complete tosspot but a smart tosspot. In the past he’s made it out as if he spent time in prison for ‘speaking the truth’, in reality it was for mortgage fraud but majority of his followers suck it up. Recent case in Leeds he was arrested for breaching the terms of his suspended sentence but again made it out as if he was being arrested for exposing the ‘truth’.

Obviously if what the gang are accused of doing is true it’s disgusting, but generally there’s normally a belief of innocent until proven guilty on this board, wonder why that doesn’t apply in this case?

Was going to post something similar. Mans a complete tosspot but a smart tosspot. In the past he’s made it out as if he spent time in prison for ‘speaking the truth’, in reality it was for mortgage fraud but majority of his followers suck it up. Recent case in Leeds he was arrested for breaching the terms of his suspended sentence but again made it out as if he was being arrested for exposing the ‘truth’.

Obviously if what the gang are accused of doing is true it’s disgusting, but generally there’s normally a belief of innocent until proven guilty on this board, wonder why that doesn’t apply in this case?

you get caught speeding or being drunk and you can be named and shamed....your art of a grooming gang of peados it all gets brushed under the carpet..?
yeah makes total sense

Was going to post something similar. Mans a complete tosspot but a smart tosspot. In the past he’s made it out as if he spent time in prison for ‘speaking the truth’, in reality it was for mortgage fraud but majority of his followers suck it up. Recent case in Leeds he was arrested for breaching the terms of his suspended sentence but again made it out as if he was being arrested for exposing the ‘truth’.

Obviously if what the gang are accused of doing is true it’s disgusting, but generally there’s normally a belief of innocent until proven guilty on this board, wonder why that doesn’t apply in this case?

you get caught speeding or being drunk and you can be named and shamed....your art of a grooming gang of peados it all gets brushed under the carpet..?
yeah makes total sense

As soon as they’re proven to have taken part in the activities have them named and shamed to the point they’re afraid to ever set foot outside again. Until then it ‘makes sense to keep them anonymous given certain people’s attitudes to the religion they follow on the whole

unbelievable that some people are happy that these grooming gang trials get hidden away from the public.. because they have taken a dislike to a man they dont know..

Was going to post something similar. Mans a complete tosspot but a smart tosspot. In the past he’s made it out as if he spent time in prison for ‘speaking the truth’, in reality it was for mortgage fraud but majority of his followers suck it up. Recent case in Leeds he was arrested for breaching the terms of his suspended sentence but again made it out as if he was being arrested for exposing the ‘truth’.

Obviously if what the gang are accused of doing is true it’s disgusting, but generally there’s normally a belief of innocent until proven guilty on this board, wonder why that doesn’t apply in this case?

you get caught speeding or being drunk and you can be named and shamed....your art of a grooming gang of peados it all gets brushed under the carpet..?
yeah makes total sense

As soon as they’re proven to have taken part in the activities have them named and shamed to the point they’re afraid to ever set foot outside again. Until then it ‘makes sense to keep them anonymous given certain people’s attitudes to the religion they follow on the whole

like ched evans and every other high profile case you mean..?
no mate this ban on reporting is only for grooming gangs..

Was going to post something similar. Mans a complete tosspot but a smart tosspot. In the past he’s made it out as if he spent time in prison for ‘speaking the truth’, in reality it was for mortgage fraud but majority of his followers suck it up. Recent case in Leeds he was arrested for breaching the terms of his suspended sentence but again made it out as if he was being arrested for exposing the ‘truth’.

Obviously if what the gang are accused of doing is true it’s disgusting, but generally there’s normally a belief of innocent until proven guilty on this board, wonder why that doesn’t apply in this case?

you get caught speeding or being drunk and you can be named and shamed....your art of a grooming gang of peados it all gets brushed under the carpet..?
yeah makes total sense

As soon as they’re proven to have taken part in the activities have them named and shamed to the point they’re afraid to ever set foot outside again. Until then it ‘makes sense to keep them anonymous given certain people’s attitudes to the religion they follow on the whole

like ched evans and every other high profile case you mean..?
no mate this ban on reporting is only for grooming gangs..

I agree that no one should be named until proven guilty however in this case it’s arguably more important as I’ve said due to certain opinions held by some

Im part of the "tommy is an idiot" brigade and have been for some time now. The whole shouting in peoples faces with his phone pointed at them and agressive mannor doesnt do it for me, there is a sensible solution to this paticular situation we find ourselves in today but thats an entirely different post

Like I said ive thought for some time now that tommy robinson is a numpty but after him being sent to prison i cant help but think hes actually planned it quite well and could even profit from his time in prison.

He knew there was a reporting ban on the trial that he was arrested at as he mentioned it in his live feed yet chose to report anyway jepordising the case where potentially those animals could of walked free. His popularity has gone up massively since, people protesting all over social media and protesting in london. Its quite clear too see that by playing on peoples fears hes making a big name for himself, politically (or maybe socially/public figure) what ever it may be maybe he isnt such the numpty i thought and quite a smart business man ? I personally think the whole prison thing will make him lots of money due to the increase in popularity. Opinions ?

why are there reporting bans n these trials..?
your missing the point mate.
these are vile crimes against the weakest in our society and you think its ok to hide them.?

Absolutely spot on and if it wasn't for people like Tommy prepared to.pyt his neck on the line we'd all are you on not knowing this sick business is going on.

Having a pop at Tommy for hi S methods whilst our own government desperately try to cover up this sick act.why??

Was going to post something similar. Mans a complete tosspot but a smart tosspot. In the past he’s made it out as if he spent time in prison for ‘speaking the truth’, in reality it was for mortgage fraud but majority of his followers suck it up. Recent case in Leeds he was arrested for breaching the terms of his suspended sentence but again made it out as if he was being arrested for exposing the ‘truth’.

Obviously if what the gang are accused of doing is true it’s disgusting, but generally there’s normally a belief of innocent until proven guilty on this board, wonder why that doesn’t apply in this case?

you get caught speeding or being drunk and you can be named and shamed....your art of a grooming gang of peados it all gets brushed under the carpet..?
yeah makes total sense

As soon as they’re proven to have taken part in the activities have them named and shamed to the point they’re afraid to ever set foot outside again. Until then it ‘makes sense to keep them anonymous given certain people’s attitudes to the religion they follow on the whole

like ched evans and every other high profile case you mean..?
no mate this ban on reporting is only for grooming gangs..

I agree that no one should be named until proven guilty however in this case it’s arguably more important as I’ve said due to certain opinions held by some

Translated : they shouldn't be reported on because of their religion is that what you mean??
Or something else?

Was going to post something similar. Mans a complete tosspot but a smart tosspot. In the past he’s made it out as if he spent time in prison for ‘speaking the truth’, in reality it was for mortgage fraud but majority of his followers suck it up. Recent case in Leeds he was arrested for breaching the terms of his suspended sentence but again made it out as if he was being arrested for exposing the ‘truth’.

Obviously if what the gang are accused of doing is true it’s disgusting, but generally there’s normally a belief of innocent until proven guilty on this board, wonder why that doesn’t apply in this case?

you get caught speeding or being drunk and you can be named and shamed....your art of a grooming gang of peados it all gets brushed under the carpet..?
yeah makes total sense

As soon as they’re proven to have taken part in the activities have them named and shamed to the point they’re afraid to ever set foot outside again. Until then it ‘makes sense to keep them anonymous given certain people’s attitudes to the religion they follow on the whole

like ched evans and every other high profile case you mean..?
no mate this ban on reporting is only for grooming gangs..

I agree that no one should be named until proven guilty however in this case it’s arguably more important as I’ve said due to certain opinions held by some

Translated : they shouldn't be reported on because of their religion is that what you mean??
Or something else?

My translation: Unlike other cases such as Ched Evans or Adam Johnson, this group of people are at risk to groups of thousands such as those who follow Robinson who don’t want them here regardless of any crime they commit.

Im part of the "tommy is an idiot" brigade and have been for some time now. The whole shouting in peoples faces with his phone pointed at them and agressive mannor doesnt do it for me, there is a sensible solution to this paticular situation we find ourselves in today but thats an entirely different post

Like I said ive thought for some time now that tommy robinson is a numpty but after him being sent to prison i cant help but think hes actually planned it quite well and could even profit from his time in prison.

He knew there was a reporting ban on the trial that he was arrested at as he mentioned it in his live feed yet chose to report anyway jepordising the case where potentially those animals could of walked free. His popularity has gone up massively since, people protesting all over social media and protesting in london. Its quite clear too see that by playing on peoples fears hes making a big name for himself, politically (or maybe socially/public figure) what ever it may be maybe he isnt such the numpty i thought and quite a smart business man ? I personally think the whole prison thing will make him lots of money due to the increase in popularity. Opinions ?

why are there reporting bans n these trials..?
your missing the point mate.
these are vile crimes against the weakest in our society and you think its ok to hide them.?

Absolutely spot on and if it wasn't for people like Tommy prepared to.pyt his neck on the line we'd all are you on not knowing this sick business is going on.

Having a pop at Tommy for hi S methods whilst our own government desperately try to cover up this sick act.why??

I get the feeling youre missing the point i was trying to make, i feel he put the trial at risk for his own agenda which i personally feel is stirring up racial hatred/divides
I obviously do not agree with child grooming gangs but i would rather them be sent to prison without the risk of walking free.
I feel tommy robinson is doing all of this for his own personal agendas and too make money off it

I don't think Tommy really wanted to go to prison. He's at serious risk of being attacked by Muslim gangs in jail.

Anjem Choudrey gets protected from gangs of white blokes in jail cos it would be 'racist' not to protect the wanker.

Robinson on the other hand will have no protection.

Im part of the "tommy is an idiot" brigade and have been for some time now. The whole shouting in peoples faces with his phone pointed at them and agressive mannor doesnt do it for me, there is a sensible solution to this paticular situation we find ourselves in today but thats an entirely different post

Like I said ive thought for some time now that tommy robinson is a numpty but after him being sent to prison i cant help but think hes actually planned it quite well and could even profit from his time in prison.

He knew there was a reporting ban on the trial that he was arrested at as he mentioned it in his live feed yet chose to report anyway jepordising the case where potentially those animals could of walked free. His popularity has gone up massively since, people protesting all over social media and protesting in london. Its quite clear too see that by playing on peoples fears hes making a big name for himself, politically (or maybe socially/public figure) what ever it may be maybe he isnt such the numpty i thought and quite a smart business man ? I personally think the whole prison thing will make him lots of money due to the increase in popularity. Opinions ?

why are there reporting bans n these trials..?
your missing the point mate.
these are vile crimes against the weakest in our society and you think its ok to hide them.?

Absolutely spot on and if it wasn't for people like Tommy prepared to.pyt his neck on the line we'd all are you on not knowing this sick business is going on.

Having a pop at Tommy for hi S methods whilst our own government desperately try to cover up this sick act.why??

I get the feeling youre missing the point i was trying to make, i feel he put the trial at risk for his own agenda which i personally feel is stirring up racial hatred/divides
I obviously do not agree with child grooming gangs but i would rather them be sent to prison without the risk of walking free.
I feel tommy robinson is doing all of this for his own personal agendas and too make money off it

sorry mate but how can THIS trial be at more risk than any other due to reporting..
its you tha miss the point

Robinson's points of view are justifiable and sound, he will never be able to shake off his past, and will therefore never be seen as anything other than a menace by the authorities and the MSM, when you listen to why he is shouting his message from the rooftops, have a look at his rational:

This is a trumped up charge just to lock him away .
The reporting restriction was in place for the trial but the accused had already been found guilty and where going to court for sentencing.so the press could have and did report who they where.
Yes he’s a pain in the arse to the government but ,I think some on here are missing the point ... it’s to due with civil liberties.
Whoever you maybe of what ever political persuasion.
I’m sure lads on here know about friends getting bans for being found guilty by association.etc (what a load of shit)

It’s the thin edge of what can and could happen to any of us at any time if you get on the wrong side of the political elite of the uk.
Time to wake up peeps.
They will and have some really powerful laws that they got passed to clamp down if you don’t tow the line.

I’m all for live and let live but they have really opened a can of worms now.

Im part of the "tommy is an idiot" brigade and have been for some time now. The whole shouting in peoples faces with his phone pointed at them and agressive mannor doesnt do it for me, there is a sensible solution to this paticular situation we find ourselves in today but thats an entirely different post

Like I said ive thought for some time now that tommy robinson is a numpty but after him being sent to prison i cant help but think hes actually planned it quite well and could even profit from his time in prison.

He knew there was a reporting ban on the trial that he was arrested at as he mentioned it in his live feed yet chose to report anyway jepordising the case where potentially those animals could of walked free. His popularity has gone up massively since, people protesting all over social media and protesting in london. Its quite clear too see that by playing on peoples fears hes making a big name for himself, politically (or maybe socially/public figure) what ever it may be maybe he isnt such the numpty i thought and quite a smart business man ? I personally think the whole prison thing will make him lots of money due to the increase in popularity. Opinions ?

why are there reporting bans n these trials..?
your missing the point mate.
these are vile crimes against the weakest in our society and you think its ok to hide them.?

Absolutely spot on and if it wasn't for people like Tommy prepared to.pyt his neck on the line we'd all are you on not knowing this sick business is going on.

Having a pop at Tommy for hi S methods whilst our own government desperately try to cover up this sick act.why??

I get the feeling youre missing the point i was trying to make, i feel he put the trial at risk for his own agenda which i personally feel is stirring up racial hatred/divides
I obviously do not agree with child grooming gangs but i would rather them be sent to prison without the risk of walking free.
I feel tommy robinson is doing all of this for his own personal agendas and too make money off it

Racial hatred? He had an issue with an ideology that promotes under age sex and genocide.
That's not racism.

unbelievable that some people are happy that these grooming gang trials get hidden away from the public.. because they have taken a dislike to a man they dont know..

Any case this high profile gets a compete media ban it’s totally normal

Rape cases often the same as with the girl involved in the ched Evans case

Don’t believe everything you read

The jury have to be completely locked away int his sort of case and this has always been the way

unbelievable that some people are happy that these grooming gang trials get hidden away from the public.. because they have taken a dislike to a man they dont know..

Any case this high profile gets a compete media ban it’s totally normal

Rape cases often the same as with the girl involved in the ched Evans case

Don’t believe everything you read

The jury have to be completely locked away int his sort of case and this has always been the way

any case like this.....and its ME believing everything i read ?????
whatever comic you got that rediculous idea from stop your subscription
btw the girl in the Ched Evans case was...the supossed victim NOT the accused...at least get that right

unbelievable that some people are happy that these grooming gang trials get hidden away from the public.. because they have taken a dislike to a man they dont know..

Any case this high profile gets a compete media ban it’s totally normal

Rape cases often the same as with the girl involved in the ched Evans case

Don’t believe everything you read

The jury have to be completely locked away int his sort of case and this has always been the way

Rubbish, chef Evans case was in the media as soon as he was questioned even before being charged, how you've highlighted that as an example Confuses me.
Another, poor cliff Richard the police themselves tipping off the BBC.
What about those 3 lads in university together the case was in the media everyday their photos splashed everywhere even after they were found not guilty, but then they were white middle class lads so it's OK.
The government and police force chose to hide this case from the public because of their gross incompetence AGAIN.

Here’s the link to prove that the bbc actually reported. On the case so there was no disclosure notice or bbc couldn’t have divulged the accused names and addresses etc .

https://youtu.be/KOheSMjUivw

unbelievable that some people are happy that these grooming gang trials get hidden away from the public.. because they have taken a dislike to a man they dont know..

Any case this high profile gets a compete media ban it’s totally normal

Rape cases often the same as with the girl involved in the ched Evans case

Don’t believe everything you read

The jury have to be completely locked away int his sort of case and this has always been the way

Utter nonsense. The reason this case was blackout was because those who committed the crime were Muslims (again)

Sarah Champion the Labour MP was branded as 'irresponsible' for stating there was a problem with British Pakistani males grooming and exploiting young children. This despite the fact 10's of Muslim men have been jailed for such crimes in Rochdale, Oxford, Newcastle, Telford, Oldham and several other towns in the UK, but for some reason no-one should be told about it or try to stop it.

It has totally backfired on the establishment jailing Tommy, at the protest in London were people from all political beliefs right/left wing and different races ,people are fed up of freedom of press and speech being taken away from citizens

[but for some reason no-one should be told about it or try to stop it.

that’s exactly why they’re kept anonymous until the trials over so knobheads like robinson and his followers don’t try and take it into their own hands

[but for some reason no-one should be told about it or try to stop it.

that’s exactly why they’re kept anonymous until the trials over so knobheads like robinson and his followers don’t try and take it into their own hands

Is that the real reason for the blackout?

I agree with the OP that TR has used this for his own agenda. He knew what he was doing, he knew the rules and broke them deliberately. Something tells me he is not regretting it either.

My question is why do they have these blackouts and are they limited to high profile cases?

[but for some reason no-one should be told about it or try to stop it.

that’s exactly why they’re kept anonymous until the trials over so knobheads like robinson and his followers don’t try and take it into their own hands

Is that the real reason for the blackout?

I agree with the OP that TR has used this for his own agenda. He knew what he was doing, he knew the rules and broke them deliberately. Something tells me he is not regretting it either.

My question is why do they have these blackouts and are they limited to high profile cases?

That’s a question I would like answered Ian.

I keep hoping it’s to protect the kids but there are other cases that have been reported in full.

Utter nonsense. The reason this case was blackout was because those who committed the crime were Muslims (again)

cant be serious? the BBC literally made a tv series about the muslim gang in rochdale, and it was front page news everywhere.. meanwhile earlier this year senior EDL member Leigh McMillan was jailed for sexually abusing a 10 year old girl, and most of these tommy robinson supporters probably dont even know who McMillan is because it was barely reported

The guy who prosecuted the rochdale gang said himself they nearly faced a mistrial due to media influence, and was very critical of robinson, so I'd imagine the courts were keen to give these sick defendants absolutely no reason to cry foul and suggest a mistrial/obstruction of justice etc. I'd like to think to that filming outside a court (and potentially filming victims/families of victims) came into it too.

In response to the 'Free Tommy Robinson his only crime telling the truth' picture doing the rounds.
That is actually quite far from the truth. Here's a more accurate list:
Assaulting an off duty police officer with actual bodily harm and intention to resist arrest (2004)
Threatening, abusive or insulting behaviour - this including throwing missiles, damage to property and anti-Welsh racist chants (2010)
Mortgage fraud - using a fake identity to attempt to defraud a bank of £160,000 (2012)
Money laundering (2012)
Possession of drugs with intent to supply (2012)
Travelling to the USA using someone else's passport - literally being an illegal immigrant (2013)
Breaching the terms of his prison license (2014)
Football banning order for inciting racial hatred (2016)
Contempt of court for attempting to film defendants (2017)
Pretty amazing when we know what he thinks about people who don't respect the laws of this country!
And now:
Contempt of court, again. This is the second time he has put a serious sexual abuse case under threat of mistrial, meaning the defendants could walk free, as a result of his attempts to disrupt it.
Have a think about who, and what, some of you are defending.

In response to the 'Free Tommy Robinson his only crime telling the truth' picture doing the rounds.
That is actually quite far from the truth. Here's a more accurate list:
Assaulting an off duty police officer with actual bodily harm and intention to resist arrest (2004)
Threatening, abusive or insulting behaviour - this including throwing missiles, damage to property and anti-Welsh racist chants (2010)
Mortgage fraud - using a fake identity to attempt to defraud a bank of £160,000 (2012)
Money laundering (2012)
Possession of drugs with intent to supply (2012)
Travelling to the USA using someone else's passport - literally being an illegal immigrant (2013)
Breaching the terms of his prison license (2014)
Football banning order for inciting racial hatred (2016)
Contempt of court for attempting to film defendants (2017)
Pretty amazing when we know what he thinks about people who don't respect the laws of this country!
And now:
Contempt of court, again. This is the second time he has put a serious sexual abuse case under threat of mistrial, meaning the defendants could walk free, as a result of his attempts to disrupt it.
Have a think about who, and what, some of you are defending.

read slowly while engaging brain....he must be the only person ever to be charged for shouting sheep shaggers..?
start with that...then join the dots.

In response to the 'Free Tommy Robinson his only crime telling the truth' picture doing the rounds.
That is actually quite far from the truth. Here's a more accurate list:
Assaulting an off duty police officer with actual bodily harm and intention to resist arrest (2004)
Threatening, abusive or insulting behaviour - this including throwing missiles, damage to property and anti-Welsh racist chants (2010)
Mortgage fraud - using a fake identity to attempt to defraud a bank of £160,000 (2012)
Money laundering (2012)
Possession of drugs with intent to supply (2012)
Travelling to the USA using someone else's passport - literally being an illegal immigrant (2013)
Breaching the terms of his prison license (2014)
Football banning order for inciting racial hatred (2016)
Contempt of court for attempting to film defendants (2017)
Pretty amazing when we know what he thinks about people who don't respect the laws of this country!
And now:
Contempt of court, again. This is the second time he has put a serious sexual abuse case under threat of mistrial, meaning the defendants could walk free, as a result of his attempts to disrupt it.
Have a think about who, and what, some of you are defending.

oh and...i read this baloney about mistrials because someone was attempting to report on the trial earlier...
how was he trying to disrupt the trial..?
genuinely shocked that even one person in the whole of the UK would actually BELIEVE that one..{ i did know that you would be on here saying it...but its an agenda thing with you not what you actually believe }