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GREALISH: WARNOCK'S WORDS/CITY TREATMENT CHANGED HIS STYLE

Tue Apr 10, 2018 7:13 am

Jack Grealish and Neil Warnock: How Cardiff's boss played a part in Aston Villa star's rise
By Alex Dicken

Grealish will once again be subjected to Cardiff City's rough treatment at Villa Park this evening


Nobody in football divides opinion quite like Neil Warnock.

Aston Villa manager Steve Bruce once said his Cardiff City counterpart "is like marmite, you either like him or loathe him".


Warnock takes to the Villa Park dugout this evening and will probably be delighted to see long-time Championship nemesis Bruce in the opposite dugout after his run-in with Nuno Espirito Santo on Friday.

Nuno and Wolves' coaching staff’s jubilant celebrations after Ruben Neves’ free-kick defeated Cardiff in the battle of the top two left Warnock furious.

Once Nuno had finished fist-pumping he tried to find Warnock to shake his hand, but the 69-year-old wasn’t interested. Nuno followed Warnock around the Cardiff City Stadium turf for a short while but the Bluebirds’ manager’s message was clear: “F*** off!”

Warnock said it multiple times before labelling Nuno a ‘disgrace’ in his post-match interview with Sky Sports.


And few could have blamed a battered and bruised Jack Grealish had he decided to use similarly stinging words to Warnock after the pair came face-to-face in the tunnel following last season’s meeting at Villa Park.

Last season’s 3-1 win over Cardiff will largely be remembered for the battering the Bluebirds gave Grealish.

The local lad was subjected to some crude challenges, orchestrated by Warnock, and was left in a heap countless times.


But Warnock, incensed by Grealish "shouting at the referee to get players booked", ambushed the 22-year-old at the final whistle and gave him a telling off in the tunnel.

Grealish stood his ground and voiced his own frustrations at the number of bad challenges he was victim to, two of which resulted in Lee Peltier being dismissed for Cardiff.

"He's a good player,” Warnock said of the incident, “but all the time he's trying to get players booked, going to the referee and all that and he gets away with it when they're at home I suppose. He didn't need to do it really."


Grealish almost missed the second fixture between the two sides after being withdrawn prematurely in the 1-1 draw with Leeds United a few days before Villa were due in South Wales.

Bruce, not missing his chance when it presented itself, mouthed the words on every Villa fan’s mind: "Cardiff will give him a dead leg again! They gave him two dead legs a month ago!"


And Bruce was right. Warnock’s team targeted Villa’s floppy-haired midfielder once again and reaped the rewards to claim a narrow 1-0 win.

Grealish’s frustrations saw him become the target of the Cardiff crowd and Bruce, despite sympathising with his man, called for change on two fronts.

“We've got to protect him. Referees have to have the courage and balls and protect him – but he has got to learn not to react like he does,” he said.


"We’re English and we don’t want players throwing their arms up in the air when they’re tackled or think decisions have gone against them. We don't accept that.

“They have kicked him from pillar to post in both games, but all good players get kicked. He's a good player and will get kicked, but we don't want to see the arms waving and all that.”



The rough and tumble of his first season in the Championship made Grealish only too aware that he needed to toughen up.

That devastating kidney injury slowed his rise but Grealish has played like a man possessed since his return. He’s stronger, fitter and better than ever and Warnock’s roughing up is partly to thank.

When Sol Bamba and Co hack Grealish down this evening he’ll grin and bear it, before turning away and plotting their downfall.

Grealish is an entirely different player to the one Warnock met in the tunnel last season, and he’ll be out to prove it tonight.
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Re: GREALISH: WARNOCK'S WORDS/CITY TREATMENT CHANGED HIS STY

Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:01 am

I’ll believe this when I see it.

Re: GREALISH: WARNOCK'S WORDS/CITY TREATMENT CHANGED HIS STY

Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:14 am

BrightBlueFuture wrote:I’ll believe this when I see it.


And me. He still complains to refs when he's hacked down and quite rightly too. The longer the ref does nothing about it, the longer the persistent fouling will continue. If some donkey thinks that he can continually chop a player down and that player won't complain to the ref because of some time honored "it's not the English way" nonsense, then he can do one as far as I'm concerned.

This is 2018, not 1973. The game has changed whether we like it or not. Persistent fouling and targeting players for "special treatment" is cheating and players have a right to be protected from refs.

Re: GREALISH: WARNOCK'S WORDS/CITY TREATMENT CHANGED HIS STY

Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:28 am

AV3 wrote:
BrightBlueFuture wrote:I’ll believe this when I see it.


And me. He still complains to refs when he's hacked down and quite rightly too. The longer the ref does nothing about it, the longer the persistent fouling will continue. If some donkey thinks that he can continually chop a player down and that player won't complain to the ref because of some time honored "it's not the English way" nonsense, then he can do one as far as I'm concerned.

This is 2018, not 1973. The game has changed whether we like it or not. Persistent fouling and targeting players for "special treatment" is cheating and players have a right to be protected from refs.



Nobody in football moans about Jack Grealish complaining to the ref when he's hacked down. The problem comes when he claims near mortal injury just about every time he gets tackled.

Re: GREALISH: WARNOCK'S WORDS/CITY TREATMENT CHANGED HIS STY

Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:33 am

epping blue wrote:
AV3 wrote:
BrightBlueFuture wrote:I’ll believe this when I see it.


And me. He still complains to refs when he's hacked down and quite rightly too. The longer the ref does nothing about it, the longer the persistent fouling will continue. If some donkey thinks that he can continually chop a player down and that player won't complain to the ref because of some time honored "it's not the English way" nonsense, then he can do one as far as I'm concerned.

This is 2018, not 1973. The game has changed whether we like it or not. Persistent fouling and targeting players for "special treatment" is cheating and players have a right to be protected from refs.



Nobody in football moans about Jack Grealish complaining to the ref when he's hacked down. The problem comes when he claims near mortal injury just about every time he gets tackled.


Funny that, I watch him a lot, do you? He rarely does that and never from just a tackle. Occasionally, it hurts but given the frequency that he's hacked down compared to other players then by the law of averages, it will likely be the case that he is hurt more than most players.

It's just a bit of meat on the bone that's been added for value on here because Jack has been turned into public enemy number 1.

Re: GREALISH: WARNOCK'S WORDS/CITY TREATMENT CHANGED HIS STY

Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:35 am

AV3 wrote:
BrightBlueFuture wrote:I’ll believe this when I see it.


And me. He still complains to refs when he's hacked down and quite rightly too. The longer the ref does nothing about it, the longer the persistent fouling will continue. If some donkey thinks that he can continually chop a player down and that player won't complain to the ref because of some time honored "it's not the English way" nonsense, then he can do one as far as I'm concerned.

This is 2018, not 1973. The game has changed whether we like it or not. Persistent fouling and targeting players for "special treatment" is cheating and players have a right to be protected from refs.


I agree with you.

Hopefully however he's also learned to stop falling over at the slightest touch from an opposition player.

Persistent fouling is not acceptable but neither is persistent falling over to try to win a free kick. There has to be some element of physicality left in the game or tackling may as well be banned completely.

Grealish is a very talented player and he is always going to draw a certain amount of fouls due to the skills that he has. However, he doesn't help himself by throwing himself to the ground even when fairly tackled and moaning to the ref.

Hopefully we can contain him within the rules this evening and limit his ability to affect the game.

Re: GREALISH: WARNOCK'S WORDS/CITY TREATMENT CHANGED HIS STY

Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:47 am

davids wrote:
AV3 wrote:
BrightBlueFuture wrote:I’ll believe this when I see it.


And me. He still complains to refs when he's hacked down and quite rightly too. The longer the ref does nothing about it, the longer the persistent fouling will continue. If some donkey thinks that he can continually chop a player down and that player won't complain to the ref because of some time honored "it's not the English way" nonsense, then he can do one as far as I'm concerned.

This is 2018, not 1973. The game has changed whether we like it or not. Persistent fouling and targeting players for "special treatment" is cheating and players have a right to be protected from refs.


I agree with you.

Hopefully however he's also learned to stop falling over at the slightest touch from an opposition player.

Persistent fouling is not acceptable but neither is persistent falling over to try to win a free kick. There has to be some element of physicality left in the game or tackling may as well be banned completely.

Grealish is a very talented player and he is always going to draw a certain amount of fouls due to the skills that he has. However, he doesn't help himself by throwing himself to the ground even when fairly tackled and moaning to the ref.

Hopefully we can contain him within the rules this evening and limit his ability to affect the game.


The thing is, your fans are going to be claiming that he was diving whatever happens. You know it and I know it. This time tomorrow, there'll be thread after thread about him on here, especially if you lose.

It's funny how every time he's gone past a player that everyone accepts that he's been fouled but every time the foul happens when he doesn't come away with the ball, it is a dive. He's been virtually rugby tackled 3 times in the past 6 games yet nobody highlights that.

What makes me laugh (and I've said it on here before) is that Snodgrass is far better at and more likely to draw a foul than Grealish. I would find it very annoying if I was an opposing fan. Grealish is just too quick for defenders whereas Snodgrass looks for the foul, especially when we're trying to see a game out.

Re: GREALISH: WARNOCK'S WORDS/CITY TREATMENT CHANGED HIS STY

Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:09 am

AV3 wrote:
davids wrote:
AV3 wrote:
BrightBlueFuture wrote:I’ll believe this when I see it.


And me. He still complains to refs when he's hacked down and quite rightly too. The longer the ref does nothing about it, the longer the persistent fouling will continue. If some donkey thinks that he can continually chop a player down and that player won't complain to the ref because of some time honored "it's not the English way" nonsense, then he can do one as far as I'm concerned.

This is 2018, not 1973. The game has changed whether we like it or not. Persistent fouling and targeting players for "special treatment" is cheating and players have a right to be protected from refs.


I agree with you.

Hopefully however he's also learned to stop falling over at the slightest touch from an opposition player.

Persistent fouling is not acceptable but neither is persistent falling over to try to win a free kick. There has to be some element of physicality left in the game or tackling may as well be banned completely.

Grealish is a very talented player and he is always going to draw a certain amount of fouls due to the skills that he has. However, he doesn't help himself by throwing himself to the ground even when fairly tackled and moaning to the ref.

Hopefully we can contain him within the rules this evening and limit his ability to affect the game.


The thing is, your fans are going to be claiming that he was diving whatever happens. You know it and I know it. This time tomorrow, there'll be thread after thread about him on here, especially if you lose.

It's funny how every time he's gone past a player that everyone accepts that he's been fouled but every time the foul happens when he doesn't come away with the ball, it is a dive. He's been virtually rugby tackled 3 times in the past 6 games yet nobody highlights that.

What makes me laugh (and I've said it on here before) is that Snodgrass is far better at and more likely to draw a foul than Grealish. I would find it very annoying if I was an opposing fan. Grealish is just too quick for defenders whereas Snodgrass looks for the foul, especially when we're trying to see a game out.


There's a difference between drawing a foul and blatant diving.

Re: GREALISH: WARNOCK'S WORDS/CITY TREATMENT CHANGED HIS STY

Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:14 am

AAAAAnd we're off!

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: GREALISH: WARNOCK'S WORDS/CITY TREATMENT CHANGED HIS STY

Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:18 am

AV3 wrote:AAAAAnd we're off!

:lol: :lol: :lol:


Not in the mood for it today mate :laughing5:
Just couldn't resist the " I hate Grealish " thread :laughing6:

Re: GREALISH: WARNOCK'S WORDS/CITY TREATMENT CHANGED HIS STY

Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:27 am

AV3 wrote:
davids wrote:
AV3 wrote:
BrightBlueFuture wrote:I’ll believe this when I see it.


And me. He still complains to refs when he's hacked down and quite rightly too. The longer the ref does nothing about it, the longer the persistent fouling will continue. If some donkey thinks that he can continually chop a player down and that player won't complain to the ref because of some time honored "it's not the English way" nonsense, then he can do one as far as I'm concerned.

This is 2018, not 1973. The game has changed whether we like it or not. Persistent fouling and targeting players for "special treatment" is cheating and players have a right to be protected from refs.


I agree with you.

Hopefully however he's also learned to stop falling over at the slightest touch from an opposition player.

Persistent fouling is not acceptable but neither is persistent falling over to try to win a free kick. There has to be some element of physicality left in the game or tackling may as well be banned completely.

Grealish is a very talented player and he is always going to draw a certain amount of fouls due to the skills that he has. However, he doesn't help himself by throwing himself to the ground even when fairly tackled and moaning to the ref.

Hopefully we can contain him within the rules this evening and limit his ability to affect the game.


The thing is, your fans are going to be claiming that he was diving whatever happens. You know it and I know it. This time tomorrow, there'll be thread after thread about him on here, especially if you lose.

It's funny how every time he's gone past a player that everyone accepts that he's been fouled but every time the foul happens when he doesn't come away with the ball, it is a dive. He's been virtually rugby tackled 3 times in the past 6 games yet nobody highlights that.

What makes me laugh (and I've said it on here before) is that Snodgrass is far better at and more likely to draw a foul than Grealish. I would find it very annoying if I was an opposing fan. Grealish is just too quick for defenders whereas Snodgrass looks for the foul, especially when we're trying to see a game out.





Does Snodgrass bang the ground in agony, followed by an immediate spring to his feet with seldom more than divine intervention ? No. Its the banging the ground, the agony etched all over the face that gets me. Last year I genuinely though he'd broken his leg or something as serious. He went from prone to standing in a single movement. It could have been Olga Corbett.

Re: GREALISH: WARNOCK'S WORDS/CITY TREATMENT CHANGED HIS STY

Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:33 am

Well Jeremy Simpson is in charge of the game tonight and he has sent off 4 players in his last 5 games. This will also be his 4th Villa game this season, and they have won the other 3, so with Grealish likely going down faster than a 10 bob hooker what are the odds of us finishing the game with 11 men.

We all know that the average Villa fan has the samaritans on speed dial, pessimists to a man who all believe that they will never go anywhere until the club appoints another manager called "Ron". As a group their fans believe their glasses are not even half full and the pitiful amount of liquid in the glass is mostly water because it's been pissing down on them for over thirty years. And talking about pissing down with rain and getting soaking wet where the feck is that guy with the umbrella who ran onto the pitch at Selhurst Park all those years ago and held is umbrella above the heads of their precious players to stop them getting soaked. Many people think the scoucer fans like to play the victim card but the reality is their amateurs compared to the Villa fans.

I hope we stand up to them tonight, don't do anything silly and give the referee an excuse to send one of ours off, we can then sit back and lap it up as the Villa fans turn on their own, turning the atmosphere toxic for the Villa team, and hopefully giving our team the support to pull off a priceless result.

Whatever happens tonight I still believe we have 4 very winable games and if we do that Villa won't be anywhere near us at the end of the season.


:bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:

Re: GREALISH: WARNOCK'S WORDS/CITY TREATMENT CHANGED HIS STY

Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:35 am

epping blue wrote:
AV3 wrote:
davids wrote:
AV3 wrote:
BrightBlueFuture wrote:I’ll believe this when I see it.


And me. He still complains to refs when he's hacked down and quite rightly too. The longer the ref does nothing about it, the longer the persistent fouling will continue. If some donkey thinks that he can continually chop a player down and that player won't complain to the ref because of some time honored "it's not the English way" nonsense, then he can do one as far as I'm concerned.

This is 2018, not 1973. The game has changed whether we like it or not. Persistent fouling and targeting players for "special treatment" is cheating and players have a right to be protected from refs.


I agree with you.

Hopefully however he's also learned to stop falling over at the slightest touch from an opposition player.

Persistent fouling is not acceptable but neither is persistent falling over to try to win a free kick. There has to be some element of physicality left in the game or tackling may as well be banned completely.

Grealish is a very talented player and he is always going to draw a certain amount of fouls due to the skills that he has. However, he doesn't help himself by throwing himself to the ground even when fairly tackled and moaning to the ref.

Hopefully we can contain him within the rules this evening and limit his ability to affect the game.


The thing is, your fans are going to be claiming that he was diving whatever happens. You know it and I know it. This time tomorrow, there'll be thread after thread about him on here, especially if you lose.

It's funny how every time he's gone past a player that everyone accepts that he's been fouled but every time the foul happens when he doesn't come away with the ball, it is a dive. He's been virtually rugby tackled 3 times in the past 6 games yet nobody highlights that.

What makes me laugh (and I've said it on here before) is that Snodgrass is far better at and more likely to draw a foul than Grealish. I would find it very annoying if I was an opposing fan. Grealish is just too quick for defenders whereas Snodgrass looks for the foul, especially when we're trying to see a game out.





Does Snodgrass bang the ground in agony, followed by an immediate spring to his feet with seldom more than divine intervention ? No. Its the banging the ground, the agony etched all over the face that gets me. Last year I genuinely though he'd broken his leg or something as serious. He went from prone to standing in a single movement. It could have been Olga Corbett.


It was Olga Corbett she just hadn't shaved that day.


:bluescarf: :bluescarf:

Re: GREALISH: WARNOCK'S WORDS/CITY TREATMENT CHANGED HIS STY

Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:39 am

You lot can't even get it right between you as you attempt to "out drama queen" each other.

Some say it's blatant diving, some say it's banging his fist on the floor and others say it's constant moaning to the refs.

The truth is, none of you know what you're on about and you're just displaying the traits of thick, stupid, blinkered football fans.

Re: GREALISH: WARNOCK'S WORDS/CITY TREATMENT CHANGED HIS STY

Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:46 am

AV3 wrote:You lot can't even get it right between you as you attempt to "out drama queen" each other.

Some say it's blatant diving, some say it's banging his fist on the floor and others say it's constant moaning to the refs.

The truth is, none of you know what you're on about and you're just displaying the traits of thick, stupid, blinkered football fans.


No, its all of the above :thumbright:

Re: GREALISH: WARNOCK'S WORDS/CITY TREATMENT CHANGED HIS STY

Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:47 am

AV3 wrote:You lot can't even get it right between you as you attempt to "out drama queen" each other.

Some say it's blatant diving, some say it's banging his fist on the floor and others say it's constant moaning to the refs.

The truth is, none of you know what you're on about and you're just displaying the traits of thick, stupid, blinkered football fans.


As indeed are you.

All of us football fans are blinkered when it comes to our clubs and their opponents.

:thumbup: :thumbup:

Re: GREALISH: WARNOCK'S WORDS/CITY TREATMENT CHANGED HIS STY

Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:05 am

davids wrote:
AV3 wrote:You lot can't even get it right between you as you attempt to "out drama queen" each other.

Some say it's blatant diving, some say it's banging his fist on the floor and others say it's constant moaning to the refs.

The truth is, none of you know what you're on about and you're just displaying the traits of thick, stupid, blinkered football fans.


As indeed are you.

All of us football fans are blinkered when it comes to our clubs and their opponents.

:thumbup: :thumbup:


I'm only blinkered in as much that I am unable to watch the opposition when I'm at games. I rarely notice who is their best player, who is playing for them etc.

I do not get into the habit of slagging other players and blaming them for our losses.

Warnock is a pathetic bad loser. If it's not the ref or the linesman, it's someone else. Against us, it was Grealish, against Wolves it was their manager. You lot simply follow suit like the sheep that you are.

Quite often I go to games and moan about a refereeing decision but more often than not, when I watch it again on TV, the ref actually got it right.

Re: GREALISH: WARNOCK'S WORDS/CITY TREATMENT CHANGED HIS STY

Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:06 am

AV3 wrote:
davids wrote:
AV3 wrote:You lot can't even get it right between you as you attempt to "out drama queen" each other.

Some say it's blatant diving, some say it's banging his fist on the floor and others say it's constant moaning to the refs.

The truth is, none of you know what you're on about and you're just displaying the traits of thick, stupid, blinkered football fans.


As indeed are you.

All of us football fans are blinkered when it comes to our clubs and their opponents.

:thumbup: :thumbup:


I'm only blinkered in as much that I am unable to watch the opposition when I'm at games. I rarely notice who is their best player, who is playing for them etc.

I do not get into the habit of slagging other players and blaming them for our losses.

Warnock is a pathetic bad loser. If it's not the ref or the linesman, it's someone else. Against us, it was Grealish, against Wolves it was their manager. You lot simply follow suit like the sheep that you are.

Quite often I go to games and moan about a refereeing decision but more often than not, when I watch it again on TV, the ref actually got it right.


Well lets hope we hammer you pricks so you don't have to listen to Warnocks moaning.

Re: GREALISH: WARNOCK'S WORDS/CITY TREATMENT CHANGED HIS STY

Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:12 am

AV3 wrote:
BrightBlueFuture wrote:I’ll believe this when I see it.


And me. He still complains to refs when he's hacked down and quite rightly too. The longer the ref does nothing about it, the longer the persistent fouling will continue. If some donkey thinks that he can continually chop a player down and that player won't complain to the ref because of some time honored "it's not the English way" nonsense, then he can do one as far as I'm concerned.

This is 2018, not 1973. The game has changed whether we like it or not. Persistent fouling and targeting players for "special treatment" is cheating and players have a right to be protected from refs.


In his particular case he goes down far too easily looking for free kicks instead of trying to play the game. He also gesticulates and complains when he is ‘simulating’. THAT is what is not the British way.

Re: GREALISH: WARNOCK'S WORDS/CITY TREATMENT CHANGED HIS STY

Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:24 am

JayCee wrote:
AV3 wrote:
BrightBlueFuture wrote:I’ll believe this when I see it.


And me. He still complains to refs when he's hacked down and quite rightly too. The longer the ref does nothing about it, the longer the persistent fouling will continue. If some donkey thinks that he can continually chop a player down and that player won't complain to the ref because of some time honored "it's not the English way" nonsense, then he can do one as far as I'm concerned.

This is 2018, not 1973. The game has changed whether we like it or not. Persistent fouling and targeting players for "special treatment" is cheating and players have a right to be protected from refs.


In his particular case he goes down far too easily looking for free kicks instead of trying to play the game. He also gesticulates and complains when he is ‘simulating’. THAT is what is not the British way.


Mate - He really doesn't go down easily. A foul is a foul is a foul - It doesn't have to be a high foot at waist level. What incentive is there for him to go down when he is nearly always past his man? It's just a silly notion that has developed on this forum post last years game.

He does not "simulate" either. He asks the ref for protection and/or how many times is the fouling going to be allowed to continue. That is the British way and has been since the year dot. Let's not try to rewrite history and pretend that there has ever been a time when players haven't complained about persistent fouling.

Re: GREALISH: WARNOCK'S WORDS/CITY TREATMENT CHANGED HIS STY

Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:27 am

AV3 wrote:
BrightBlueFuture wrote:I’ll believe this when I see it.


And me. He still complains to refs when he's hacked down and quite rightly too. The longer the ref does nothing about it, the longer the persistent fouling will continue. If some donkey thinks that he can continually chop a player down and that player won't complain to the ref because of some time honored "it's not the English way" nonsense, then he can do one as far as I'm concerned.

This is 2018, not 1973. The game has changed whether we like it or not. Persistent fouling and targeting players for "special treatment" is cheating and players have a right to be protected from refs.

A good player but a diver that's out to con the referee for favorable decisions ..... his reputation goes before him and referees are aware of it , he is part of a growing band of cheats in the game , sneeze near them and they go down and roll around slapping the ground and screaming as if they are in pain just to get a decision ..... you conveniently left this out of your post as there are a few in the Villa side

Re: GREALISH: WARNOCK'S WORDS/CITY TREATMENT CHANGED HIS STY

Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:31 am

7777 glt wrote:
AV3 wrote:
BrightBlueFuture wrote:I’ll believe this when I see it.


And me. He still complains to refs when he's hacked down and quite rightly too. The longer the ref does nothing about it, the longer the persistent fouling will continue. If some donkey thinks that he can continually chop a player down and that player won't complain to the ref because of some time honored "it's not the English way" nonsense, then he can do one as far as I'm concerned.

This is 2018, not 1973. The game has changed whether we like it or not. Persistent fouling and targeting players for "special treatment" is cheating and players have a right to be protected from refs.

A good player but a diver that's out to con the referee for favorable decisions ..... his reputation goes before him and referees are aware of it , he is part of a growing band of cheats in the game , sneeze near them and they go down and roll around slapping the ground and screaming as if they are in pain just to get a decision ..... you conveniently left this out of your post as there are a few in the Villa side


Is he fcuk out to con refs. Why does he need to in this division? He runs rings around the opposition.

As for his so called "reputation" Funny how none of you commented on it prior to him running rings round you last season.

Re: GREALISH: WARNOCK'S WORDS/CITY TREATMENT CHANGED HIS STY

Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:09 pm

He's such a sap, needs to man up. He's not playing under 11s anymore!

Re: GREALISH: WARNOCK'S WORDS/CITY TREATMENT CHANGED HIS STY

Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:14 pm

AV3 wrote:
7777 glt wrote:
AV3 wrote:
BrightBlueFuture wrote:I’ll believe this when I see it.


And me. He still complains to refs when he's hacked down and quite rightly too. The longer the ref does nothing about it, the longer the persistent fouling will continue. If some donkey thinks that he can continually chop a player down and that player won't complain to the ref because of some time honored "it's not the English way" nonsense, then he can do one as far as I'm concerned.

This is 2018, not 1973. The game has changed whether we like it or not. Persistent fouling and targeting players for "special treatment" is cheating and players have a right to be protected from refs.

A good player but a diver that's out to con the referee for favorable decisions ..... his reputation goes before him and referees are aware of it , he is part of a growing band of cheats in the game , sneeze near them and they go down and roll around slapping the ground and screaming as if they are in pain just to get a decision ..... you conveniently left this out of your post as there are a few in the Villa side


Is he fcuk out to con refs. Why does he need to in this division? He runs rings around the opposition.

As for his so called "reputation" Funny how none of you commented on it prior to him running rings round you last season.


Did he "run rings around us last season " ?? I remember seeing a pretty talented player throwing himself to the ground at the slightest contact and rolling around like a 5 year old girl trying to get opposition players booked st the very opportunity

Re: GREALISH: WARNOCK'S WORDS/CITY TREATMENT CHANGED HIS STY

Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:19 pm

oohahhPaulMillar wrote:
AV3 wrote:
7777 glt wrote:
AV3 wrote:
BrightBlueFuture wrote:I’ll believe this when I see it.


And me. He still complains to refs when he's hacked down and quite rightly too. The longer the ref does nothing about it, the longer the persistent fouling will continue. If some donkey thinks that he can continually chop a player down and that player won't complain to the ref because of some time honored "it's not the English way" nonsense, then he can do one as far as I'm concerned.

This is 2018, not 1973. The game has changed whether we like it or not. Persistent fouling and targeting players for "special treatment" is cheating and players have a right to be protected from refs.

A good player but a diver that's out to con the referee for favorable decisions ..... his reputation goes before him and referees are aware of it , he is part of a growing band of cheats in the game , sneeze near them and they go down and roll around slapping the ground and screaming as if they are in pain just to get a decision ..... you conveniently left this out of your post as there are a few in the Villa side


Is he fcuk out to con refs. Why does he need to in this division? He runs rings around the opposition.

As for his so called "reputation" Funny how none of you commented on it prior to him running rings round you last season.


Did he "run rings around us last season " ?? I remember seeing a pretty talented player throwing himself to the ground at the slightest contact and rolling around like a 5 year old girl trying to get opposition players booked st the very opportunity


Yes, in the 3-1 at our place. You ended up with 10 men because your full back was sent off for chopping him down (yet) again with a lunge that was about knee height or above.

Re: GREALISH: WARNOCK'S WORDS/CITY TREATMENT CHANGED HIS STY

Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:38 pm

AV3 wrote:
davids wrote:
AV3 wrote:You lot can't even get it right between you as you attempt to "out drama queen" each other.

Some say it's blatant diving, some say it's banging his fist on the floor and others say it's constant moaning to the refs.

The truth is, none of you know what you're on about and you're just displaying the traits of thick, stupid, blinkered football fans.


As indeed are you.

All of us football fans are blinkered when it comes to our clubs and their opponents.

:thumbup: :thumbup:


I'm only blinkered in as much that I am unable to watch the opposition when I'm at games. I rarely notice who is their best player, who is playing for them etc.

I do not get into the habit of slagging other players and blaming them for our losses.

Warnock is a pathetic bad loser. If it's not the ref or the linesman, it's someone else. Against us, it was Grealish, against Wolves it was their manager. You lot simply follow suit like the sheep that you are.

Quite often I go to games and moan about a refereeing decision but more often than not, when I watch it again on TV, the ref actually got it right.


Warnock didn’t blame the wolves manager for us losing, he was angry due to the lack of respect shown by him at the end when he and his entire back room staff and subs ran on to the pitch and acted liked they’d won the champions league. I agree with NW entirely. If that makes me a sheep then baaaaaaaaa.

Re: GREALISH: WARNOCK'S WORDS/CITY TREATMENT CHANGED HIS STY

Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:51 pm

Carpe Diem wrote:
AV3 wrote:
davids wrote:
AV3 wrote:You lot can't even get it right between you as you attempt to "out drama queen" each other.

Some say it's blatant diving, some say it's banging his fist on the floor and others say it's constant moaning to the refs.

The truth is, none of you know what you're on about and you're just displaying the traits of thick, stupid, blinkered football fans.


As indeed are you.

All of us football fans are blinkered when it comes to our clubs and their opponents.

:thumbup: :thumbup:


I'm only blinkered in as much that I am unable to watch the opposition when I'm at games. I rarely notice who is their best player, who is playing for them etc.

I do not get into the habit of slagging other players and blaming them for our losses.

Warnock is a pathetic bad loser. If it's not the ref or the linesman, it's someone else. Against us, it was Grealish, against Wolves it was their manager. You lot simply follow suit like the sheep that you are.

Quite often I go to games and moan about a refereeing decision but more often than not, when I watch it again on TV, the ref actually got it right.


Warnock didn’t blame the wolves manager for us losing, he was angry due to the lack of respect shown by him at the end when he and his entire back room staff and subs ran on to the pitch and acted liked they’d won the champions league. I agree with NW entirely. If that makes me a sheep then baaaaaaaaa.


:laughing6:

Re: GREALISH: WARNOCK'S WORDS/CITY TREATMENT CHANGED HIS STY

Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:08 pm

AV3 - you seem to feel the need to defend little Jack Grealish to the hilt...

I watch Cardiff City every week and Grealish stands out by far as the biggest play-actor we’ve faced. Jordan Huggill was “memorable” for Preston but not even in Grealish’s league.

Re: GREALISH: WARNOCK'S WORDS/CITY TREATMENT CHANGED HIS STY

Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:43 pm

AV3 - Do you post on the Vile board or just come on here for your Grealish love in?

Shite Club-Shite Player

YOUR CITY IS BLUE :bluescarf:

Re: GREALISH: WARNOCK'S WORDS/CITY TREATMENT CHANGED HIS STY

Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:05 pm

AV3 wrote:
oohahhPaulMillar wrote:
AV3 wrote:
7777 glt wrote:
AV3 wrote:
BrightBlueFuture wrote:I’ll believe this when I see it.


And me. He still complains to refs when he's hacked down and quite rightly too. The longer the ref does nothing about it, the longer the persistent fouling will continue. If some donkey thinks that he can continually chop a player down and that player won't complain to the ref because of some time honored "it's not the English way" nonsense, then he can do one as far as I'm concerned.

This is 2018, not 1973. The game has changed whether we like it or not. Persistent fouling and targeting players for "special treatment" is cheating and players have a right to be protected from refs.

A good player but a diver that's out to con the referee for favorable decisions ..... his reputation goes before him and referees are aware of it , he is part of a growing band of cheats in the game , sneeze near them and they go down and roll around slapping the ground and screaming as if they are in pain just to get a decision ..... you conveniently left this out of your post as there are a few in the Villa side


Is he fcuk out to con refs. Why does he need to in this division? He runs rings around the opposition.

As for his so called "reputation" Funny how none of you commented on it prior to him running rings round you last season.


Did he "run rings around us last season " ?? I remember seeing a pretty talented player throwing himself to the ground at the slightest contact and rolling around like a 5 year old girl trying to get opposition players booked st the very opportunity


Yes, in the 3-1 at our place. You ended up with 10 men because your full back was sent off for chopping him down (yet) again with a lunge that was about knee height or above.


I was at the game and still don't remember him running rings around us..Although I do remember him quite clearly rolling around like a girl apparently in agony with what appears a broken leg at minimum, before making a full recovery 5 seconds later on numerous occasions

It's a waste of time you trying to defend him, he's done it too many times it's starting to get embarrassing now