Tue Apr 10, 2018 7:13 am
Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:01 am
Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:14 am
BrightBlueFuture wrote:I’ll believe this when I see it.
Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:28 am
AV3 wrote:BrightBlueFuture wrote:I’ll believe this when I see it.
And me. He still complains to refs when he's hacked down and quite rightly too. The longer the ref does nothing about it, the longer the persistent fouling will continue. If some donkey thinks that he can continually chop a player down and that player won't complain to the ref because of some time honored "it's not the English way" nonsense, then he can do one as far as I'm concerned.
This is 2018, not 1973. The game has changed whether we like it or not. Persistent fouling and targeting players for "special treatment" is cheating and players have a right to be protected from refs.
Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:33 am
epping blue wrote:AV3 wrote:BrightBlueFuture wrote:I’ll believe this when I see it.
And me. He still complains to refs when he's hacked down and quite rightly too. The longer the ref does nothing about it, the longer the persistent fouling will continue. If some donkey thinks that he can continually chop a player down and that player won't complain to the ref because of some time honored "it's not the English way" nonsense, then he can do one as far as I'm concerned.
This is 2018, not 1973. The game has changed whether we like it or not. Persistent fouling and targeting players for "special treatment" is cheating and players have a right to be protected from refs.
Nobody in football moans about Jack Grealish complaining to the ref when he's hacked down. The problem comes when he claims near mortal injury just about every time he gets tackled.
Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:35 am
AV3 wrote:BrightBlueFuture wrote:I’ll believe this when I see it.
And me. He still complains to refs when he's hacked down and quite rightly too. The longer the ref does nothing about it, the longer the persistent fouling will continue. If some donkey thinks that he can continually chop a player down and that player won't complain to the ref because of some time honored "it's not the English way" nonsense, then he can do one as far as I'm concerned.
This is 2018, not 1973. The game has changed whether we like it or not. Persistent fouling and targeting players for "special treatment" is cheating and players have a right to be protected from refs.
Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:47 am
davids wrote:AV3 wrote:BrightBlueFuture wrote:I’ll believe this when I see it.
And me. He still complains to refs when he's hacked down and quite rightly too. The longer the ref does nothing about it, the longer the persistent fouling will continue. If some donkey thinks that he can continually chop a player down and that player won't complain to the ref because of some time honored "it's not the English way" nonsense, then he can do one as far as I'm concerned.
This is 2018, not 1973. The game has changed whether we like it or not. Persistent fouling and targeting players for "special treatment" is cheating and players have a right to be protected from refs.
I agree with you.
Hopefully however he's also learned to stop falling over at the slightest touch from an opposition player.
Persistent fouling is not acceptable but neither is persistent falling over to try to win a free kick. There has to be some element of physicality left in the game or tackling may as well be banned completely.
Grealish is a very talented player and he is always going to draw a certain amount of fouls due to the skills that he has. However, he doesn't help himself by throwing himself to the ground even when fairly tackled and moaning to the ref.
Hopefully we can contain him within the rules this evening and limit his ability to affect the game.
Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:09 am
AV3 wrote:davids wrote:AV3 wrote:BrightBlueFuture wrote:I’ll believe this when I see it.
And me. He still complains to refs when he's hacked down and quite rightly too. The longer the ref does nothing about it, the longer the persistent fouling will continue. If some donkey thinks that he can continually chop a player down and that player won't complain to the ref because of some time honored "it's not the English way" nonsense, then he can do one as far as I'm concerned.
This is 2018, not 1973. The game has changed whether we like it or not. Persistent fouling and targeting players for "special treatment" is cheating and players have a right to be protected from refs.
I agree with you.
Hopefully however he's also learned to stop falling over at the slightest touch from an opposition player.
Persistent fouling is not acceptable but neither is persistent falling over to try to win a free kick. There has to be some element of physicality left in the game or tackling may as well be banned completely.
Grealish is a very talented player and he is always going to draw a certain amount of fouls due to the skills that he has. However, he doesn't help himself by throwing himself to the ground even when fairly tackled and moaning to the ref.
Hopefully we can contain him within the rules this evening and limit his ability to affect the game.
The thing is, your fans are going to be claiming that he was diving whatever happens. You know it and I know it. This time tomorrow, there'll be thread after thread about him on here, especially if you lose.
It's funny how every time he's gone past a player that everyone accepts that he's been fouled but every time the foul happens when he doesn't come away with the ball, it is a dive. He's been virtually rugby tackled 3 times in the past 6 games yet nobody highlights that.
What makes me laugh (and I've said it on here before) is that Snodgrass is far better at and more likely to draw a foul than Grealish. I would find it very annoying if I was an opposing fan. Grealish is just too quick for defenders whereas Snodgrass looks for the foul, especially when we're trying to see a game out.
Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:14 am
Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:18 am
AV3 wrote:AAAAAnd we're off!
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Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:27 am
AV3 wrote:davids wrote:AV3 wrote:BrightBlueFuture wrote:I’ll believe this when I see it.
And me. He still complains to refs when he's hacked down and quite rightly too. The longer the ref does nothing about it, the longer the persistent fouling will continue. If some donkey thinks that he can continually chop a player down and that player won't complain to the ref because of some time honored "it's not the English way" nonsense, then he can do one as far as I'm concerned.
This is 2018, not 1973. The game has changed whether we like it or not. Persistent fouling and targeting players for "special treatment" is cheating and players have a right to be protected from refs.
I agree with you.
Hopefully however he's also learned to stop falling over at the slightest touch from an opposition player.
Persistent fouling is not acceptable but neither is persistent falling over to try to win a free kick. There has to be some element of physicality left in the game or tackling may as well be banned completely.
Grealish is a very talented player and he is always going to draw a certain amount of fouls due to the skills that he has. However, he doesn't help himself by throwing himself to the ground even when fairly tackled and moaning to the ref.
Hopefully we can contain him within the rules this evening and limit his ability to affect the game.
The thing is, your fans are going to be claiming that he was diving whatever happens. You know it and I know it. This time tomorrow, there'll be thread after thread about him on here, especially if you lose.
It's funny how every time he's gone past a player that everyone accepts that he's been fouled but every time the foul happens when he doesn't come away with the ball, it is a dive. He's been virtually rugby tackled 3 times in the past 6 games yet nobody highlights that.
What makes me laugh (and I've said it on here before) is that Snodgrass is far better at and more likely to draw a foul than Grealish. I would find it very annoying if I was an opposing fan. Grealish is just too quick for defenders whereas Snodgrass looks for the foul, especially when we're trying to see a game out.
Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:33 am
Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:35 am
epping blue wrote:AV3 wrote:davids wrote:AV3 wrote:BrightBlueFuture wrote:I’ll believe this when I see it.
And me. He still complains to refs when he's hacked down and quite rightly too. The longer the ref does nothing about it, the longer the persistent fouling will continue. If some donkey thinks that he can continually chop a player down and that player won't complain to the ref because of some time honored "it's not the English way" nonsense, then he can do one as far as I'm concerned.
This is 2018, not 1973. The game has changed whether we like it or not. Persistent fouling and targeting players for "special treatment" is cheating and players have a right to be protected from refs.
I agree with you.
Hopefully however he's also learned to stop falling over at the slightest touch from an opposition player.
Persistent fouling is not acceptable but neither is persistent falling over to try to win a free kick. There has to be some element of physicality left in the game or tackling may as well be banned completely.
Grealish is a very talented player and he is always going to draw a certain amount of fouls due to the skills that he has. However, he doesn't help himself by throwing himself to the ground even when fairly tackled and moaning to the ref.
Hopefully we can contain him within the rules this evening and limit his ability to affect the game.
The thing is, your fans are going to be claiming that he was diving whatever happens. You know it and I know it. This time tomorrow, there'll be thread after thread about him on here, especially if you lose.
It's funny how every time he's gone past a player that everyone accepts that he's been fouled but every time the foul happens when he doesn't come away with the ball, it is a dive. He's been virtually rugby tackled 3 times in the past 6 games yet nobody highlights that.
What makes me laugh (and I've said it on here before) is that Snodgrass is far better at and more likely to draw a foul than Grealish. I would find it very annoying if I was an opposing fan. Grealish is just too quick for defenders whereas Snodgrass looks for the foul, especially when we're trying to see a game out.
Does Snodgrass bang the ground in agony, followed by an immediate spring to his feet with seldom more than divine intervention ? No. Its the banging the ground, the agony etched all over the face that gets me. Last year I genuinely though he'd broken his leg or something as serious. He went from prone to standing in a single movement. It could have been Olga Corbett.
Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:39 am
Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:46 am
AV3 wrote:You lot can't even get it right between you as you attempt to "out drama queen" each other.
Some say it's blatant diving, some say it's banging his fist on the floor and others say it's constant moaning to the refs.
The truth is, none of you know what you're on about and you're just displaying the traits of thick, stupid, blinkered football fans.
Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:47 am
AV3 wrote:You lot can't even get it right between you as you attempt to "out drama queen" each other.
Some say it's blatant diving, some say it's banging his fist on the floor and others say it's constant moaning to the refs.
The truth is, none of you know what you're on about and you're just displaying the traits of thick, stupid, blinkered football fans.
Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:05 am
davids wrote:AV3 wrote:You lot can't even get it right between you as you attempt to "out drama queen" each other.
Some say it's blatant diving, some say it's banging his fist on the floor and others say it's constant moaning to the refs.
The truth is, none of you know what you're on about and you're just displaying the traits of thick, stupid, blinkered football fans.
As indeed are you.
All of us football fans are blinkered when it comes to our clubs and their opponents.
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Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:06 am
AV3 wrote:davids wrote:AV3 wrote:You lot can't even get it right between you as you attempt to "out drama queen" each other.
Some say it's blatant diving, some say it's banging his fist on the floor and others say it's constant moaning to the refs.
The truth is, none of you know what you're on about and you're just displaying the traits of thick, stupid, blinkered football fans.
As indeed are you.
All of us football fans are blinkered when it comes to our clubs and their opponents.
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I'm only blinkered in as much that I am unable to watch the opposition when I'm at games. I rarely notice who is their best player, who is playing for them etc.
I do not get into the habit of slagging other players and blaming them for our losses.
Warnock is a pathetic bad loser. If it's not the ref or the linesman, it's someone else. Against us, it was Grealish, against Wolves it was their manager. You lot simply follow suit like the sheep that you are.
Quite often I go to games and moan about a refereeing decision but more often than not, when I watch it again on TV, the ref actually got it right.
Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:12 am
AV3 wrote:BrightBlueFuture wrote:I’ll believe this when I see it.
And me. He still complains to refs when he's hacked down and quite rightly too. The longer the ref does nothing about it, the longer the persistent fouling will continue. If some donkey thinks that he can continually chop a player down and that player won't complain to the ref because of some time honored "it's not the English way" nonsense, then he can do one as far as I'm concerned.
This is 2018, not 1973. The game has changed whether we like it or not. Persistent fouling and targeting players for "special treatment" is cheating and players have a right to be protected from refs.
Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:24 am
JayCee wrote:AV3 wrote:BrightBlueFuture wrote:I’ll believe this when I see it.
And me. He still complains to refs when he's hacked down and quite rightly too. The longer the ref does nothing about it, the longer the persistent fouling will continue. If some donkey thinks that he can continually chop a player down and that player won't complain to the ref because of some time honored "it's not the English way" nonsense, then he can do one as far as I'm concerned.
This is 2018, not 1973. The game has changed whether we like it or not. Persistent fouling and targeting players for "special treatment" is cheating and players have a right to be protected from refs.
In his particular case he goes down far too easily looking for free kicks instead of trying to play the game. He also gesticulates and complains when he is ‘simulating’. THAT is what is not the British way.
Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:27 am
AV3 wrote:BrightBlueFuture wrote:I’ll believe this when I see it.
And me. He still complains to refs when he's hacked down and quite rightly too. The longer the ref does nothing about it, the longer the persistent fouling will continue. If some donkey thinks that he can continually chop a player down and that player won't complain to the ref because of some time honored "it's not the English way" nonsense, then he can do one as far as I'm concerned.
This is 2018, not 1973. The game has changed whether we like it or not. Persistent fouling and targeting players for "special treatment" is cheating and players have a right to be protected from refs.
Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:31 am
7777 glt wrote:AV3 wrote:BrightBlueFuture wrote:I’ll believe this when I see it.
And me. He still complains to refs when he's hacked down and quite rightly too. The longer the ref does nothing about it, the longer the persistent fouling will continue. If some donkey thinks that he can continually chop a player down and that player won't complain to the ref because of some time honored "it's not the English way" nonsense, then he can do one as far as I'm concerned.
This is 2018, not 1973. The game has changed whether we like it or not. Persistent fouling and targeting players for "special treatment" is cheating and players have a right to be protected from refs.
A good player but a diver that's out to con the referee for favorable decisions ..... his reputation goes before him and referees are aware of it , he is part of a growing band of cheats in the game , sneeze near them and they go down and roll around slapping the ground and screaming as if they are in pain just to get a decision ..... you conveniently left this out of your post as there are a few in the Villa side
Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:09 pm
Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:14 pm
AV3 wrote:7777 glt wrote:AV3 wrote:BrightBlueFuture wrote:I’ll believe this when I see it.
And me. He still complains to refs when he's hacked down and quite rightly too. The longer the ref does nothing about it, the longer the persistent fouling will continue. If some donkey thinks that he can continually chop a player down and that player won't complain to the ref because of some time honored "it's not the English way" nonsense, then he can do one as far as I'm concerned.
This is 2018, not 1973. The game has changed whether we like it or not. Persistent fouling and targeting players for "special treatment" is cheating and players have a right to be protected from refs.
A good player but a diver that's out to con the referee for favorable decisions ..... his reputation goes before him and referees are aware of it , he is part of a growing band of cheats in the game , sneeze near them and they go down and roll around slapping the ground and screaming as if they are in pain just to get a decision ..... you conveniently left this out of your post as there are a few in the Villa side
Is he fcuk out to con refs. Why does he need to in this division? He runs rings around the opposition.
As for his so called "reputation" Funny how none of you commented on it prior to him running rings round you last season.
Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:19 pm
oohahhPaulMillar wrote:AV3 wrote:7777 glt wrote:AV3 wrote:BrightBlueFuture wrote:I’ll believe this when I see it.
And me. He still complains to refs when he's hacked down and quite rightly too. The longer the ref does nothing about it, the longer the persistent fouling will continue. If some donkey thinks that he can continually chop a player down and that player won't complain to the ref because of some time honored "it's not the English way" nonsense, then he can do one as far as I'm concerned.
This is 2018, not 1973. The game has changed whether we like it or not. Persistent fouling and targeting players for "special treatment" is cheating and players have a right to be protected from refs.
A good player but a diver that's out to con the referee for favorable decisions ..... his reputation goes before him and referees are aware of it , he is part of a growing band of cheats in the game , sneeze near them and they go down and roll around slapping the ground and screaming as if they are in pain just to get a decision ..... you conveniently left this out of your post as there are a few in the Villa side
Is he fcuk out to con refs. Why does he need to in this division? He runs rings around the opposition.
As for his so called "reputation" Funny how none of you commented on it prior to him running rings round you last season.
Did he "run rings around us last season " ?? I remember seeing a pretty talented player throwing himself to the ground at the slightest contact and rolling around like a 5 year old girl trying to get opposition players booked st the very opportunity
Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:38 pm
AV3 wrote:davids wrote:AV3 wrote:You lot can't even get it right between you as you attempt to "out drama queen" each other.
Some say it's blatant diving, some say it's banging his fist on the floor and others say it's constant moaning to the refs.
The truth is, none of you know what you're on about and you're just displaying the traits of thick, stupid, blinkered football fans.
As indeed are you.
All of us football fans are blinkered when it comes to our clubs and their opponents.
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I'm only blinkered in as much that I am unable to watch the opposition when I'm at games. I rarely notice who is their best player, who is playing for them etc.
I do not get into the habit of slagging other players and blaming them for our losses.
Warnock is a pathetic bad loser. If it's not the ref or the linesman, it's someone else. Against us, it was Grealish, against Wolves it was their manager. You lot simply follow suit like the sheep that you are.
Quite often I go to games and moan about a refereeing decision but more often than not, when I watch it again on TV, the ref actually got it right.
Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:51 pm
Carpe Diem wrote:AV3 wrote:davids wrote:AV3 wrote:You lot can't even get it right between you as you attempt to "out drama queen" each other.
Some say it's blatant diving, some say it's banging his fist on the floor and others say it's constant moaning to the refs.
The truth is, none of you know what you're on about and you're just displaying the traits of thick, stupid, blinkered football fans.
As indeed are you.
All of us football fans are blinkered when it comes to our clubs and their opponents.
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I'm only blinkered in as much that I am unable to watch the opposition when I'm at games. I rarely notice who is their best player, who is playing for them etc.
I do not get into the habit of slagging other players and blaming them for our losses.
Warnock is a pathetic bad loser. If it's not the ref or the linesman, it's someone else. Against us, it was Grealish, against Wolves it was their manager. You lot simply follow suit like the sheep that you are.
Quite often I go to games and moan about a refereeing decision but more often than not, when I watch it again on TV, the ref actually got it right.
Warnock didn’t blame the wolves manager for us losing, he was angry due to the lack of respect shown by him at the end when he and his entire back room staff and subs ran on to the pitch and acted liked they’d won the champions league. I agree with NW entirely. If that makes me a sheep then baaaaaaaaa.
Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:08 pm
Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:43 pm
Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:05 pm
AV3 wrote:oohahhPaulMillar wrote:AV3 wrote:7777 glt wrote:AV3 wrote:BrightBlueFuture wrote:I’ll believe this when I see it.
And me. He still complains to refs when he's hacked down and quite rightly too. The longer the ref does nothing about it, the longer the persistent fouling will continue. If some donkey thinks that he can continually chop a player down and that player won't complain to the ref because of some time honored "it's not the English way" nonsense, then he can do one as far as I'm concerned.
This is 2018, not 1973. The game has changed whether we like it or not. Persistent fouling and targeting players for "special treatment" is cheating and players have a right to be protected from refs.
A good player but a diver that's out to con the referee for favorable decisions ..... his reputation goes before him and referees are aware of it , he is part of a growing band of cheats in the game , sneeze near them and they go down and roll around slapping the ground and screaming as if they are in pain just to get a decision ..... you conveniently left this out of your post as there are a few in the Villa side
Is he fcuk out to con refs. Why does he need to in this division? He runs rings around the opposition.
As for his so called "reputation" Funny how none of you commented on it prior to him running rings round you last season.
Did he "run rings around us last season " ?? I remember seeing a pretty talented player throwing himself to the ground at the slightest contact and rolling around like a 5 year old girl trying to get opposition players booked st the very opportunity
Yes, in the 3-1 at our place. You ended up with 10 men because your full back was sent off for chopping him down (yet) again with a lunge that was about knee height or above.