Is sheep shagger racist/offensive?

Is being called a “sheep shagger” racist/offensive or just to be accepted if you’re Welsh?
I know as city fans we call ourselves it just to mock the opposition etc but should we accept it?
The reason I ask is that I watched the selby/warrington fight build up and warrington fans were chanting “sheep shagger” at selby and no one seemed bothered. Promoter, press, security etc just seemed to acknowledge the chanting as acceptable.

No one is ever bothered by it

But it is a form of racism and could be deemed offensive

I’m sorry but if the league and stewards kick off st people chanting ‘we can see you holding hands ‘ to Brighton

They should punish opposing fans chanting sheep shaggers , not that I give a crap about it but in terms of comparing to other race issues then yes they should

Not sure about racist but it would be labelled as xenophobic I guess and certainly something you could get in trouble for if said to the wrong person in work

Not really something that bothers me though

Not politically correct ask spurs fans who were criticised for singing about themselves!
Not sure what sheep think of being labelled shaggers though ?

It's not racist or offensive and anyone thay thinks it is needs to get a grip

It's not racist or offensive and anyone thay thinks it is needs to get a grip

Offensive is a relative term though , you can’t tell people what is or isn’t offensive

Surely the whole point of them singing it is to cause offense to Welsh people ?

I suppose my main point is that it seems acceptable to insult the Welsh (can’t see it being a compliment). It doesn’t bother me at a football ground, but the chanting was at a pre fight conference and no one seemed bothered....as though it was expected and accepted.
As a previous poster pointed out - far less offensive chants have been stamped out and people getting into serious trouble for saying less insulting things.

It’s supposed to be offensive, the English wouldn’t sing it otherwise. But if it does offend you then maybe football isn’t for you.

It’s supposed to be offensive, the English wouldn’t sing it otherwise. But if it does offend you then maybe football isn’t for you.

If it offends someone I’d suggest life isn’t for them and to lock themselves away


But it’s said to cause offense, I just can’t see anyone actually getting offended by it

Personally I don't give a damn and just take it as bit of banter. But from an objective point of view I can't think of anything more offensive and as it is applied to the Welsh is a racial slur if you regard the Welsh as a race. If it was applied to any other minority there would be howls of outrage and the police would today be arresting those caught on camera singing it and it would form a major news item on BBC. Even the mildest of perceived discrimination brings the busy bodies ( many who have never been to a game in their life but have built careers in the discrimination industry) demanding action be taken by the football authorities/police/government.

Personally I don't give a damn and just take it as bit of banter. But from an objective point of view I can't think of anything more offensive and as it is applied to the Welsh is a racial slur if you regard the Welsh as a race. If it was applied to any other minority there would be howls of outrage and the police would today be arresting those caught on camera singing it and it would form a major news item on BBC. Even the mildest of perceived discrimination brings the busy bodies ( many who have never been to a game in their life but have built careers in the discrimination industry) demanding action be taken by the football authorities/police/government.

No different to calling Arabs goat fuckers really.

Try and do that out in public and see how long you last

Is being called a “sheep shagger” racist/offensive or just to be accepted if you’re Welsh?
I know as city fans we call ourselves it just to mock the opposition etc but should we accept it?
The reason I ask is that I watched the selby/warrington fight build up and warrington fans were chanting “sheep shagger” at selby and no one seemed bothered. Promoter, press, security etc just seemed to acknowledge the chanting as acceptable.

Personally I couldn't care, but with all the other political correctness going around for every other sex, race sexuality and whatever, it should be treated in the same way, you can't have one rule for one and one for another.

Personally I don't give a damn and just take it as bit of banter. But from an objective point of view I can't think of anything more offensive and as it is applied to the Welsh is a racial slur if you regard the Welsh as a race. If it was applied to any other minority there would be howls of outrage and the police would today be arresting those caught on camera singing it and it would form a major news item on BBC. Even the mildest of perceived discrimination brings the busy bodies ( many who have never been to a game in their life but have built careers in the discrimination industry) demanding action be taken by the football authorities/police/government.

No different to calling Arabs goat fuckers really.

Try and do that out in public and see how long you last

Exactly, the two are the same and should be treated the same !!!

It's not racist or offensive and anyone thay thinks it is needs to get a grip

Offensive is a relative term though , you can’t tell people what is or isn’t offensive

No but I can tell them to get a grip. Don't tell me pauline your one of these PC nancy boys?

Whether or not we give a damn about it is almost irrelevant but it is quite clearly a racist comment as it is aimed in almost all circumstances at Welshmen. We appear to take it in good spirit at football matches when the opposing crowd sing it to us but if an Englishman called you a sheepshagger to your face I'm sure that most of us would feel very insulted. It shouldn't be allowed in the current climate for one racial group to slur another. I didn't see the Selby weigh in but I bet that he felt humiliated to have a large group of people aiming racist vitriol just at him.

Derby away last season they were singing"we shag more sheep than you".also derbyshire/rural clubs (Shrewsbury) seem to get it.

It's not racist or offensive and anyone thay thinks it is needs to get a grip

Offensive is a relative term though , you can’t tell people what is or isn’t offensive

No but I can tell them to get a grip. Don't tell me pauline your one of these PC nancy boys?

Why did you jump to that conclusion

Seriously though I agree that I don’t find that offensive however there would be certain situations It might offend someone

It's not racist or offensive and anyone thay thinks it is needs to get a grip

Offensive is a relative term though , you can’t tell people what is or isn’t offensive

No but I can tell them to get a grip. Don't tell me pauline your one of these PC nancy boys?

Why did you jump to that conclusion

Seriously though I agree that I don’t find that offensive however there would be certain situations It might offend someone

Only when you get caught and have to explain it to the wife...and that's probably called sexist!

It's not racist or offensive and anyone thay thinks it is needs to get a grip

To the Soyboy snowflake generation everything offensive, singing Delilah is mysoginistic, wearing a sombrero is misappropriation of Mexican culture Furfuxsake! Lewis Hamilton got slaughtered on social media for opining little boys shouldn’t wear frocks, when Ernie was playing for Palace opposing fans chanted sheep shagger, that meant nobody gave a fekk if he was black or white, he was just another British player getting a bit of abusive banter. Right that rants tired me out I’m away for a lie down.

I suppose my main point is that it seems acceptable to insult the Welsh (can’t see it being a compliment). It doesn’t bother me at a football ground, but the chanting was at a pre fight conference and no one seemed bothered....as though it was expected and accepted.
As a previous poster pointed out - far less offensive chants have been stamped out and people getting into serious trouble for saying less insulting things.

Grow a set.

Nope. I don’t get offended by any words spoken cos I ain’t a snowflake

Political Correctness is a load of Bollocks. It is supposed to be a free speech country.
People today are too easily offended. (WIMPS)
People who are offended so easily need to grow a pair.
Is being called a Taff, Jock or Paddy offensive. NO

Political Correctness is a load of Bollocks. It is supposed to be a free speech country.
People today are too easily offended. (WIMPS)
People who are offended so easily need to grow a pair.
Is being called a Taff, Jock or Paddy offensive. NO

Sweaty sock is highly offensive, especially when I’m in Tescos or somewhere and some Barry c£#& shouts it is a greeting

It's not racist or offensive and anyone thay thinks it is needs to get a grip

Offensive is a relative term though , you can’t tell people what is or isn’t offensive

No but I can tell them to get a grip. Don't tell me pauline your one of these PC nancy boys?

Why did you jump to that conclusion

Seriously though I agree that I don’t find that offensive however there would be certain situations It might offend someone

I'm sure there is. But anything said in the wrong environment can be taken one way or the other. Those useless whores on loose women get paid fortunes to sit on their fat arse and talk about this shit all day. It's not even worth a discussion.

has anyone asked the sheep if they are offended ?

has anyone asked the sheep if they are offended ?

Or the people that identify as sheep. Did you consider them!???