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today we must now take advantage ?

Sat Feb 03, 2018 9:32 am

We must take advantage of the new players we . Have brought in
I know in the passed ,three at the back hasnt worked that well
But it relies on whats in front of it .
So imo we . Need . To give . It another go
I would play the . Following starting 11
Etheridge
Manga, bamba morrison
Holliet ralls paterson gejelic? wildchut
Zohore madine
Subs
Murphy jazz ward pilks mendez kadeem CONNELLY or halford
Thoughts guys

Re: today we must now take advantage ?

Sat Feb 03, 2018 9:38 am

6 point game today, 2 games In hand currently if results go our way til we level the games played we will be above Derby

Re: today we must now take advantage ?

Sat Feb 03, 2018 9:41 am

Blue_Barber wrote:6 point game today, 2 games In hand currently if results go our way til we level the games played we will be above Derby

What would your starting 11 be then

Re: today we must now take advantage ?

Sat Feb 03, 2018 9:54 am

Agree we have to go for the jugular today. I d go for

Etheridge
Jazz. Bamba. Morrison. Traore

Grujic. Ralls
Wildschut. Hoillett. Mendez
Madine

Re: today we must now take advantage ?

Sat Feb 03, 2018 9:56 am

bluebirdoct1962 wrote:Agree we have to go for the jugular today. I d go for

Etheridge
Jazz. Bamba. Morrison. Traore

Grujic. Ralls
Wildschut. Hoillett. Mendez
Madine



Plenty of pace and a finisher in the box if (when) the crosses come flying in. :thumbup:

Re: today we must now take advantage ?

Sat Feb 03, 2018 9:59 am

My starting 11 to Warnocks would be totally different!

He’s looking to play 2 up front now when we’ve got no creative midfielder...oh we did have one but he’s playing for Forest now.

I’d have gone pre transfers

Etheridge

Paterson Morrison Bamba Jazz
Wildschut Grujic Tomlin Ralls Hoillet
Bogle

NML hasn’t been the same player of Aug and Sept
Zohore is lazy and disinterested but imo needs a partner up top

Post transfers I’d go with 442,
You have to play Madine with Zohore and hope it comes off, whilst also hoping Ralls can be the productive engine in midfield

Re: today we must now take advantage ?

Sat Feb 03, 2018 10:14 am

Blue_Barber wrote:My starting 11 to Warnocks would be totally different!

He’s looking to play 2 up front now when we’ve got no creative midfielder...oh we did have one but he’s playing for Forest now.

I’d have gone pre transfers

Etheridge

Paterson Morrison Bamba Jazz
Wildschut Grujic Tomlin Ralls Hoillet
Bogle

NML hasn’t been the same player of Aug and Sept
Zohore is lazy and disinterested but imo needs a partner up top

Post transfers I’d go with 442,
You have to play Madine with Zohore and hope it comes off, whilst also hoping Ralls can be the productive engine in midfield

Rather pointless naming a, pre transfer team
Thats the past not the . Future hmmm

Re: today we must now take advantage ?

Sat Feb 03, 2018 10:19 am

troobloo3339 wrote:
Blue_Barber wrote:My starting 11 to Warnocks would be totally different!

He’s looking to play 2 up front now when we’ve got no creative midfielder...oh we did have one but he’s playing for Forest now.

I’d have gone pre transfers

Etheridge

Paterson Morrison Bamba Jazz
Wildschut Grujic Tomlin Ralls Hoillet
Bogle

NML hasn’t been the same player of Aug and Sept
Zohore is lazy and disinterested but imo needs a partner up top

Post transfers I’d go with 442,
You have to play Madine with Zohore and hope it comes off, whilst also hoping Ralls can be the productive engine in midfield

Rather pointless naming a, pre transfer team
Thats the past not the . Future hmmm


Just pointing out the opportunity that has been missed

Re: today we must now take advantage ?

Sat Feb 03, 2018 10:30 am

Blue_Barber wrote:My starting 11 to Warnocks would be totally different!

He’s looking to play 2 up front now when we’ve got no creative midfielder...oh we did have one but he’s playing for Forest now.

I’d have gone pre transfers

Etheridge

Paterson Morrison Bamba Jazz
Wildschut Grujic Tomlin Ralls Hoillet
Bogle

NML hasn’t been the same player of Aug and Sept
Zohore is lazy and disinterested but imo needs a partner up top

Post transfers I’d go with 442,
You have to play Madine with Zohore and hope it comes off, whilst also hoping Ralls can be the productive engine in midfield


We have had him all year and he’s hardly created anything mainly because he’s too unfit.

Re: today we must now take advantage ?

Sat Feb 03, 2018 10:39 am

maccydee wrote:
Blue_Barber wrote:My starting 11 to Warnocks would be totally different!

He’s looking to play 2 up front now when we’ve got no creative midfielder...oh we did have one but he’s playing for Forest now.

I’d have gone pre transfers

Etheridge

Paterson Morrison Bamba Jazz
Wildschut Grujic Tomlin Ralls Hoillet
Bogle

NML hasn’t been the same player of Aug and Sept
Zohore is lazy and disinterested but imo needs a partner up top

Post transfers I’d go with 442,
You have to play Madine with Zohore and hope it comes off, whilst also hoping Ralls can be the productive engine in midfield


We have had him all year and he’s hardly created anything mainly because he’s too unfit.


He hasn’t played!!! How can you get fit if you don’t play?! Whether it’s DVP or first team.

Simple format for you: you go to the gym everyday, and train with the side every week- then turn up for games with your local side - coach doesn’t pick you or puts you on last 10 mins 20 if your lucky every few games- are you as fit as the lads who have played the full 90 every game? Match fit? There two totally different levels of fitness.

Now it’s there job the train etc I get that - but if your not getting games then your not match fit.

However IF you see Tomlin at Forest get game after game then your conclusion has to be that Warnock has wasted a talent because after all that he’s quite obviously fit.

Re: today we must now take advantage ?

Sat Feb 03, 2018 11:17 am

Teams have worked us out since our amazing start to the season

If you flood the midfield against us it stops the ball getting to our wingers and we are reduced to hoof ball up to Ken

Zohore has many qualities but winning headers and holding the ball up are not his strengths so I assume this is where Madine comes into play..whether he plays instead of Ken are more likely alongside him

We have transferred our main creative midfielder so I can only assume our central midfielders job will be to work their socks off, protect the back four and get the ball forward as quick as possible

I don't think it's going to be very pretty, but it's very effective at this level

Re: today we must now take advantage ?

Sat Feb 03, 2018 11:25 am

I don't think we have the centre backs to play three at three back. Morrison and Bamba especially, like to know they can't dominate a certain area, they get lost with three of them.

Re: today we must now take advantage ?

Sat Feb 03, 2018 12:16 pm

Blue_Barber wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Blue_Barber wrote:My starting 11 to Warnocks would be totally different!

He’s looking to play 2 up front now when we’ve got no creative midfielder...oh we did have one but he’s playing for Forest now.

I’d have gone pre transfers

Etheridge

Paterson Morrison Bamba Jazz
Wildschut Grujic Tomlin Ralls Hoillet
Bogle

NML hasn’t been the same player of Aug and Sept
Zohore is lazy and disinterested but imo needs a partner up top

Post transfers I’d go with 442,
You have to play Madine with Zohore and hope it comes off, whilst also hoping Ralls can be the productive engine in midfield


We have had him all year and he’s hardly created anything mainly because he’s too unfit.


He hasn’t played!!! How can you get fit if you don’t play?! Whether it’s DVP or first team.

Simple format for you: you go to the gym everyday, and train with the side every week- then turn up for games with your local side - coach doesn’t pick you or puts you on last 10 mins 20 if your lucky every few games- are you as fit as the lads who have played the full 90 every game? Match fit? There two totally different levels of fitness.

Now it’s there job the train etc I get that - but if your not getting games then your not match fit.

However IF you see Tomlin at Forest get game after game then your conclusion has to be that Warnock has wasted a talent because after all that he’s quite obviously fit.


You've got this all wrong.Lets review what actually happened.Tomlin arrived from Bristol very overweight just about fit enough for parks football.Despite the best efforts of the coaches and management to get him fit(NW's own words)his fitness does not improve to a standard where it can be risked starting him.Starting him in that state is not only putting the cart before the horse but sends the wrong message to the rest of the squad that puts in the required effort to keep fit.Could you imagine if someone like Patterson had the same attitude,we wouldn't have seen him back till 2020.The problem with Tomlin is Tomlin himself not anything we've try to do with him.As he refuses to move from Leicester the problem could be solved by him joining Forrest which is only a short distance from his home.Playing him in his current state in a team hoping for promotion is complete madness and I hope the lad realises this is probably his last chance at this level unless he starts acting like a pro footballer and not just picking up paychecks.

Re: today we must now take advantage ?

Sat Feb 03, 2018 12:38 pm

troobloo3339 wrote:We must take advantage of the new players we . Have brought in
I know in the passed ,three at the back hasnt worked that well
But it relies on whats in front of it .
So imo we . Need . To give . It another go
I would play the . Following starting 11
Etheridge
Manga, bamba morrison
Holliet ralls paterson gejelic? wildchut
Zohore madine
Subs
Murphy jazz ward pilks mendez kadeem CONNELLY or halford
Thoughts guys


3 at the back we look very vulnerable in defence, 4 much more solid i think as our defensive record has showed with 4 at the back this season, why change your shape when your one of the best defensive record sides in the league?

Re: today we must now take advantage ?

Sat Feb 03, 2018 2:47 pm

Blue_Barber wrote:
troobloo3339 wrote:
Blue_Barber wrote:My starting 11 to Warnocks would be totally different!

He’s looking to play 2 up front now when we’ve got no creative midfielder...oh we did have one but he’s playing for Forest now.

I’d have gone pre transfers

Etheridge

Paterson Morrison Bamba Jazz
Wildschut Grujic Tomlin Ralls Hoillet
Bogle

NML hasn’t been the same player of Aug and Sept
Zohore is lazy and disinterested but imo needs a partner up top

Post transfers I’d go with 442,
You have to play Madine with Zohore and hope it comes off, whilst also hoping Ralls can be the productive engine in midfield

Rather pointless naming a, pre transfer team
Thats the past not the . Future hmmm


Just pointing out the opportunity that has been missed

It wont , be . Missed as warnock does not want him

Re: today we must now take advantage ?

Sat Feb 03, 2018 2:55 pm

troobloo3339 wrote:We must take advantage of the new players we . Have brought in
I know in the passed ,three at the back hasnt worked that well
But it relies on whats in front of it .
So imo we . Need . To give . It another go
I would play the . Following starting 11
Etheridge
Manga, bamba morrison
Holliet ralls paterson gejelic? wildchut
Zohore madine
Subs
Murphy jazz ward pilks mendez kadeem CONNELLY or halford
Thoughts guys

Well I got 10 right out of 11 starters

Re: today we must now take advantage ?

Sat Feb 03, 2018 2:56 pm

Sneggyblubird wrote:
Blue_Barber wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Blue_Barber wrote:My starting 11 to Warnocks would be totally different!

He’s looking to play 2 up front now when we’ve got no creative midfielder...oh we did have one but he’s playing for Forest now.

I’d have gone pre transfers

Etheridge

Paterson Morrison Bamba Jazz
Wildschut Grujic Tomlin Ralls Hoillet
Bogle

NML hasn’t been the same player of Aug and Sept
Zohore is lazy and disinterested but imo needs a partner up top

Post transfers I’d go with 442,
You have to play Madine with Zohore and hope it comes off, whilst also hoping Ralls can be the productive engine in midfield


We have had him all year and he’s hardly created anything mainly because he’s too unfit.


He hasn’t played!!! How can you get fit if you don’t play?! Whether it’s DVP or first team.

Simple format for you: you go to the gym everyday, and train with the side every week- then turn up for games with your local side - coach doesn’t pick you or puts you on last 10 mins 20 if your lucky every few games- are you as fit as the lads who have played the full 90 every game? Match fit? There two totally different levels of fitness.

Now it’s there job the train etc I get that - but if your not getting games then your not match fit.

However IF you see Tomlin at Forest get game after game then your conclusion has to be that Warnock has wasted a talent because after all that he’s quite obviously fit.


You've got this all wrong.Lets review what actually happened.Tomlin arrived from Bristol very overweight just about fit enough for parks football.Despite the best efforts of the coaches and management to get him fit(NW's own words)his fitness does not improve to a standard where it can be risked starting him.Starting him in that state is not only putting the cart before the horse but sends the wrong message to the rest of the squad that puts in the required effort to keep fit.Could you imagine if someone like Patterson had the same attitude,we wouldn't have seen him back till 2020.The problem with Tomlin is Tomlin himself not anything we've try to do with him.As he refuses to move from Leicester the problem could be solved by him joining Forrest which is only a short distance from his home.Playing him in his current state in a team hoping for promotion is complete madness and I hope the lad realises this is probably his last chance at this level unless he starts acting like a pro footballer and not just picking up paychecks.


Beat me to that.

Onus is on him to get fit. He’s a professional footballer. If he would be an asset he would play him.

Re: today we must now take advantage ?

Sat Feb 03, 2018 5:24 pm

Took advantage of someone today ? :laughing5: