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“ Kenneth Zohore not interested “

Sat Jan 06, 2018 5:33 pm

“ KENNETH ZOHORE NOT INTERESTED “


Rarely will you see me criticise a player, I hear the noises being made about ken being a lump not fit been injuried etc and I get all that, I have played myself. It can be difficult coming back, but for me he's not putting a shift in. I can forgive bad touch, blowing out his backside, passing finish everything but the lads not putting a shift in.

The amount of times the full backs needed an outlet up the channels where a striker should be running, and big ken was stood in the middle because he couldn't be bothered to work the Channels. Totally lazy in my opinion, whatever is going on in his head he needs to snap out of it and if he doesn't I would certainly drop him if not sell him.

He could once again get that hunger back, but without it he's worth nothing. Plenty of players lacked confidence today but they at least tried. Well some of them.

Re: Zohore not interested

Sat Jan 06, 2018 5:37 pm

Be careful, I said the same after the Preston game and got slated by the “experts” on here. :banghead:

Re: “ Kenneth Zohore not interested “

Sat Jan 06, 2018 5:44 pm

Very lethargic.
The centre half always moved first, it seemed an age before ken decided to move and was always playing catch up.
Looks the player he was before NW came.

Re: “ Kenneth Zohore not interested “

Sat Jan 06, 2018 5:48 pm

I think he's off and going through the motions,doesn't run for the ball ,doesn't tackle anymore dire today

Re: “ Kenneth Zohore not interested “

Sat Jan 06, 2018 5:49 pm

In second half in particular he put zero effort in. This was the Zohore of the Trollope days. A lazy lump not the dynamic player can be. And he was up against a fourth tier defence. Warnock must be seething. What really surprises me is that if he puts the effort in and hits top form he must have a chance of making the World Cup. His chances are rapidly diminishing.

Re: “ Kenneth Zohore not interested “

Sat Jan 06, 2018 5:55 pm

Neil Warnock: "I had to mix and match it, especially in midfield and I just felt we lacked up front. You're only as good as your front three and we're lacking goals at the moment, it's like extracting teeth at the minute."


Says it all really.

Re: Zohore not interested

Sat Jan 06, 2018 5:57 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Be careful, I said the same after the Preston game and got slated by the “experts” on here. :banghead:


That's my opinion and I will wait to see other people's opinion. A few games can get away with but not rocket sicnece that the lad has no hunger for it. It's worrying. I for one would love to be wrong.

Re: “ Kenneth Zohore not interested “

Sat Jan 06, 2018 6:00 pm

wez1927 wrote:I think he's off and going through the motions,doesn't run for the ball ,doesn't tackle anymore dire today


Bennet was screaming at him to show down the Channel, an outlet. Even Sunday league players know to run the Channel if nothing on but he just stayed in the middle. Am not concerned with his from but his lack of hunger or interest. He's better than that.

Re: “ Kenneth Zohore not interested “

Sat Jan 06, 2018 6:01 pm

If I was the manager of Cardiff City, I would have rested Zohore and Mendez-Laing and replaced them with Healey and Pilkington. It is a Cup game and that is partly the reasoning behind what I am saying. Of course, Zohore is getting back to his feet in terms of returning from injury, as is Mendez-Lang, so I would have rested these two and perhaps brought in Tomlin. I don't know if he is carrying an injury but if he isn't and needs more game time, then bring him on the wing instead of Mendez-Laing because our next match is huge and our big players need to recover and regain their strength and focus on the pitch by the time Cardiff play Sunderland at Home.

Re: Zohore not interested

Sat Jan 06, 2018 6:04 pm

Stringfellow wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Be careful, I said the same after the Preston game and got slated by the “experts” on here. :banghead:


That's my opinion and I will wait to see other people's opinion. A few games can get away with but not rocket sicnece that the lad has no hunger for it. It's worrying. I for one would love to be wrong.


I have been critical of Zohore from day one. I have continually said he is over rated, we will be lucky if we see him score 10 goals in a season, and often shows little interest in the game. Like someone else said, daring to criticise him is usually met with horror from the majority of this forum. Well. our £15m striker has yet again failed to find the net, even against Mansfield, and if the argument is still that he is returning to fitness after injury, perhaps he should'nt be selected until he is fit.

Re: “ Kenneth Zohore not interested “

Sat Jan 06, 2018 6:05 pm

He didn't want to be there today. Was clear for everyone to see

Re: Zohore not interested

Sat Jan 06, 2018 6:07 pm

Steve Zodiak wrote:
Stringfellow wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Be careful, I said the same after the Preston game and got slated by the “experts” on here. :banghead:


That's my opinion and I will wait to see other people's opinion. A few games can get away with but not rocket sicnece that the lad has no hunger for it. It's worrying. I for one would love to be wrong.


I have been critical of Zohore from day one. I have continually said he is over rated, we will be lucky if we see him score 10 goals in a season, and often shows little interest in the game. Like someone else said, daring to criticise him is usually met with horror from the majority of this forum. Well. our £15m striker has yet again failed to find the net, even against Mansfield, and if the argument is still that he is returning to fitness after injury, perhaps he should'nt be selected until he is fit.


Steve nobody is right and nobody is wrong at this moment, things change and the lad hopefully has a decent career. The goals are not a worry for me right now it's the disinterest. We have seen what he can be like and consistently so that makes it even more frustrating. But without hunger he's worth nothing. Danny ward might not be perfect but he wants it.

Re: “ Kenneth Zohore not interested “

Sat Jan 06, 2018 6:09 pm

englishbluebird wrote:He didn't want to be there today. Was clear for everyone to see

Neither did most of our fans

Re: Zohore not interested

Sat Jan 06, 2018 6:15 pm

Stringfellow wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:
Stringfellow wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Be careful, I said the same after the Preston game and got slated by the “experts” on here. :banghead:


That's my opinion and I will wait to see other people's opinion. A few games can get away with but not rocket sicnece that the lad has no hunger for it. It's worrying. I for one would love to be wrong.


I have been critical of Zohore from day one. I have continually said he is over rated, we will be lucky if we see him score 10 goals in a season, and often shows little interest in the game. Like someone else said, daring to criticise him is usually met with horror from the majority of this forum. Well. our £15m striker has yet again failed to find the net, even against Mansfield, and if the argument is still that he is returning to fitness after injury, perhaps he should'nt be selected until he is fit.


Steve nobody is right and nobody is wrong at this moment, things change and the lad hopefully has a decent career. The goals are not a worry for me right now it's the disinterest. We have seen what he can be like and consistently so that makes it even more frustrating. But without hunger he's worth nothing. Danny ward might not be perfect but he wants it.


My concern is throughout his career he has had just one brief spell lasting for around 12 weeks or so where he was scoring regularly. As I have said before, take that period away and his stats are useless. It's the consistency that made me think he was way overvalued by us during the Summer. He has never been consistent apart from the early months of 2017. His scoring record is poor, and we all know that there is a history where effort is concerned. I have never believed he is the answer to our scoring problem, and nothing much is happening to prove otherwise. Lets hope I am wrong, otherwise a play off place is going to be hard work.

Re: “ Kenneth Zohore not interested “

Sat Jan 06, 2018 6:16 pm

Terrible atmosphere, it seems no drums and no one signs apart from a few sporadic chants towards the end......a bad day and fancy us to lose replay.

Tomlin looked a bit leaner but still didnt do a lot....

Thankfully Morrison played otherwise it could have been an rmbarrasing loss

Re: “ Kenneth Zohore not interested “

Sat Jan 06, 2018 6:22 pm

Looked very much like jay bothroyd of old.
Continually held his groin first half , he really did not fancy it today.
Supporters will forgive many things , a lack of effort is not one.
Totally static.

Re: “ Kenneth Zohore not interested “

Sat Jan 06, 2018 6:23 pm

1980s Bluebird wrote:Terrible atmosphere, it seems no drums and no one signs apart from a few sporadic chants towards the end......a bad day and fancy us to lose replay.

Tomlin looked a bit leaner but still didnt do a lot....

Thankfully Morrison played otherwise it could have been an rmbarrasing loss


Was always going to be like that with such a small crowd in a big stadium. Was painful.

Re: “ Kenneth Zohore not interested “

Sat Jan 06, 2018 6:28 pm

Stringfellow wrote:
1980s Bluebird wrote:Terrible atmosphere, it seems no drums and no one signs apart from a few sporadic chants towards the end......a bad day and fancy us to lose replay.

Tomlin looked a bit leaner but still didnt do a lot....

Thankfully Morrison played otherwise it could have been an rmbarrasing loss


Was always going to be like that with such a small crowd in a big stadium. Was painful.

Was he possibly one of the players playing with the flu bug that NW was on sbouy in his pre match comments. Just a thought.

Re: “ Kenneth Zohore not interested “

Sat Jan 06, 2018 6:40 pm

I think Jazz or Bennet could out jump him.He really is pathetic in the air!

Re: “ Kenneth Zohore not interested “

Sat Jan 06, 2018 6:47 pm

bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
Stringfellow wrote:
1980s Bluebird wrote:Terrible atmosphere, it seems no drums and no one signs apart from a few sporadic chants towards the end......a bad day and fancy us to lose replay.

Tomlin looked a bit leaner but still didnt do a lot....

Thankfully Morrison played otherwise it could have been an rmbarrasing loss


Was always going to be like that with such a small crowd in a big stadium. Was painful.

Was he possibly one of the players playing with the flu bug that NW was on sbouy in his pre match comments. Just a thought.


I don't think so, let's wait and see.

Re: “ Kenneth Zohore not interested “

Sat Jan 06, 2018 6:50 pm

theclaw wrote:I think Jazz or Bennet could out jump him.He really is pathetic in the air!


Absolutely but that's never been his strength, am not looking for that as I know it's not something he is any good at. Please Kenneth ram my words down my throat. Sadly I think he thinks he's a superstar, right now he's nothing. Needs to be careful.

Re: “ Kenneth Zohore not interested “

Sat Jan 06, 2018 6:56 pm

he's had major surgery FFS, the club feared he'd be written offfor the season, he managed to get back earlier than the experts thought.....too early but don't criticise the player criticise those chucking him out there before recuperation matches.

Re: “ Kenneth Zohore not interested “

Sat Jan 06, 2018 7:46 pm

Stringfellow wrote:“ KENNETH ZOHORE NOT INTERESTED “


Rarely will you see me criticise a player, I hear the noises being made about ken being a lump not fit been injuried etc and I get all that, I have played myself. It can be difficult coming back, but for me he's not putting a shift in. I can forgive bad touch, blowing out his backside, passing finish everything but the lads not putting a shift in.

The amount of times the full backs needed an outlet up the channels where a striker should be running, and big ken was stood in the middle because he couldn't be bothered to work the Channels. Totally lazy in my opinion, whatever is going on in his head he needs to snap out of it and if he doesn't I would certainly drop him if not sell him.

He could once again get that hunger back, but without it he's worth nothing. Plenty of players lacked confidence today but they at least tried. Well some of them.

I've been saying it for a while every ball that came to him today he couldn't shield the ball fom the player who was marking him got out muscled numerous time and didn't win much in the air

Re: “ Kenneth Zohore not interested “

Sat Jan 06, 2018 7:53 pm

I’m still prepared to give him a chance. He’s been getting so little service from midfield you can’t blame him for losing heart. He also appeared to go over on his ankle in the first half which clearly affected him. He doesn’t yet look fully match fit.

The goal he scored against Fulham shows what he is still capable of - let’s encouage him, not criticise him. :bluescarf:

Re: “ Kenneth Zohore not interested “

Sat Jan 06, 2018 7:53 pm

[quote="WelshPatriot"]he's had major surgery FFS, the club feared he'd be written offfor the season, he managed to get back earlier than the experts thought.....too early but don't criticise the player criticise those chucking him out there before recuperation matches.[/quote

I so hope that's the case, and you might well be right but it's difficult looking at the way he plays to make that assumption.

Re: “ Kenneth Zohore not interested “

Sat Jan 06, 2018 7:56 pm

He definitely didnt seem interested today and i noticed Warnock blanked him when he was subbed. But Mendes Lang was just as bad

Re: “ Kenneth Zohore not interested “

Sat Jan 06, 2018 7:57 pm

On the crowd front, there's too much money and too much at stake in the league for clubs now where it's do or die for some.

The cup competitions don't get respect and that's down to the influx of cash in the Prem and divisions below.

Re: “ Kenneth Zohore not interested “

Sat Jan 06, 2018 8:11 pm

He aint been fully at the races all season, the only way i see him getting back to his best is if warnock signs a quality striker and puts him in the team instead of ken, then ken will have to fight to get in the side and prove hes the main man, i really hope warnock can see this and gets a quality striker in in january

Re: “ Kenneth Zohore not interested “

Sat Jan 06, 2018 9:15 pm

He’s not a play on your own up top striker he doesn’t have a clue how to do it. He is however potentially a striker who can play with someone more hungry and that may rub of him in order to up his game and value

Re: Zohore not interested

Sat Jan 06, 2018 9:35 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Be careful, I said the same after the Preston game and got slated by the “experts” on here. :banghead:

Ross, with respect you're "one of the experts" you talked about when looking from the opposing angle as the one you commented! ;) :clap: :lol:

What I will say on Kenneth Zohore today is that he still looked a long way off his old self but so some others

The highlight for me was a returning Sean Morrison :ayatollah: