Camp in goal for next game

Etheridge constantly drops the ball in many games now costing us points. Give Lee Camp a chance put some pressure in him.

Please please please

I said from the start in my opinion he's a League 1 GK who's weakness are often hidden by a very good defence.

Camp let in four goals in the last game he played!

If the goalie is to be changed then it would be Murphy for me every time.

Camp let in four goals in the last game he played!

If the goalie is to be changed then it would be Murphy for me every time.

Depends if theyre worldies or tap ins??? Still I think we need some competition for the goalkeeper position. Look vunerable whenever a cross comes into the box.

We have to remember that before the Bolton game, we had the best defence in the league.

Even now, we have the fourth or fifth best.

Biggest problem tonight was the communication between the back four and Etheridge.

We have to remember that before the Bolton game, we had the best defence in the league.

Even now, we have the fourth or fifth best.

Biggest problem tonight was the communication between the back four and Etheridge.

Agreed, Etheridge doesn't seem to ever speak! Corner could have been prevented if he had shouted for Bamba to leave a ball and that's only a couple of weeks after his lack of communication made Paterson head in his own net.

We have to remember that before the Bolton game, we had the best defence in the league.

Even now, we have the fourth or fifth best.

Biggest problem tonight was the communication between the back four and Etheridge.

Agreed, Etheridge doesn't seem to ever speak! Corner could have been prevented if he had shouted for Bamba to leave a ball and that's only a couple of weeks after his lack of communication made Paterson head in his own net.

bamba headed the ball and was slightly ahead of their striker...so...how does Bamba leaving it not give their guy a free header..?

We have to remember that before the Bolton game, we had the best defence in the league.

Even now, we have the fourth or fifth best.

Biggest problem tonight was the communication between the back four and Etheridge.

Agreed, Etheridge doesn't seem to ever speak! Corner could have been prevented if he had shouted for Bamba to leave a ball and that's only a couple of weeks after his lack of communication made Paterson head in his own net.

bamba headed the ball and was slightly ahead of their striker...so...how does Bamba leaving it not give their guy a free header..?

The striker was right next to Bamba - if he had let it go it would have bounced and gone for a goal kick. Bamba was screaming at Etheridge afterwards.

We have to remember that before the Bolton game, we had the best defence in the league.

Even now, we have the fourth or fifth best.

Biggest problem tonight was the communication between the back four and Etheridge.

Agreed, Etheridge doesn't seem to ever speak! Corner could have been prevented if he had shouted for Bamba to leave a ball and that's only a couple of weeks after his lack of communication made Paterson head in his own net.

bamba headed the ball and was slightly ahead of their striker...so...how does Bamba leaving it not give their guy a free header..?

The striker was right next to Bamba - if he had let it go it would have bounced and gone for a goal kick. Bamba was screaming at Etheridge afterwards.

take another look...nailed on goal if he dont head it..and bamba is always shouting..

We have to remember that before the Bolton game, we had the best defence in the league.

Even now, we have the fourth or fifth best.

Biggest problem tonight was the communication between the back four and Etheridge.

Agreed, Etheridge doesn't seem to ever speak! Corner could have been prevented if he had shouted for Bamba to leave a ball and that's only a couple of weeks after his lack of communication made Paterson head in his own net.

bamba headed the ball and was slightly ahead of their striker...so...how does Bamba leaving it not give their guy a free header..?

The striker was right next to Bamba - if he had let it go it would have bounced and gone for a goal kick. Bamba was screaming at Etheridge afterwards.

take another look...nailed on goal if he dont head it..and bamba is always shouting..

Don't have the ability to have another look so I'll take your word, but even still Bamba can hardly have confidence in Etheridge to be screaming like that.

We have to remember that before the Bolton game, we had the best defence in the league.

Even now, we have the fourth or fifth best.

Biggest problem tonight was the communication between the back four and Etheridge.

Agreed, Etheridge doesn't seem to ever speak! Corner could have been prevented if he had shouted for Bamba to leave a ball and that's only a couple of weeks after his lack of communication made Paterson head in his own net.

bamba headed the ball and was slightly ahead of their striker...so...how does Bamba leaving it not give their guy a free header..?

The striker was right next to Bamba - if he had let it go it would have bounced and gone for a goal kick. Bamba was screaming at Etheridge afterwards.

take another look...nailed on goal if he dont head it..and bamba is always shouting..

Don't have the ability to have another look so I'll take your word, but even still Bamba can hardly have confidence in Etheridge to be screaming like that.

seriously.?..he dont stop shouting at all of them.
but you cant be shouting leave it at the first man when there is someone behind him and the ball is there to be headed..
i didnt think Etheridge looked great tonight either..but boy does he take lots of flack for things that he shouldnt..
as for Camp..NO....

We have to remember that before the Bolton game, we had the best defence in the league.

Even now, we have the fourth or fifth best.

Biggest problem tonight was the communication between the back four and Etheridge.

Agreed, Etheridge doesn't seem to ever speak! Corner could have been prevented if he had shouted for Bamba to leave a ball and that's only a couple of weeks after his lack of communication made Paterson head in his own net.

bamba headed the ball and was slightly ahead of their striker...so...how does Bamba leaving it not give their guy a free header..?

The striker was right next to Bamba - if he had let it go it would have bounced and gone for a goal kick. Bamba was screaming at Etheridge afterwards.

take another look...nailed on goal if he dont head it..and bamba is always shouting..

Don't have the ability to have another look so I'll take your word, but even still Bamba can hardly have confidence in Etheridge to be screaming like that.

seriously.?..he dont stop shouting at all of them.
but you cant be shouting leave it at the first man when there is someone behind him and the ball is there to be headed..
i didnt think Etheridge looked great tonight either..but boy does he take lots of flack for things that he shouldnt..
as for Camp..NO....

Don't think either of them are the option, Murphy is probably the best. We need a keeper who can actually pass to someone really. I wonder how cheap Chris Maxwell would be available for...

Etheridge is a poor goalkeeper who is out of his depth at this level.

1. His distribution is slow
2. His kicking is average
3. He makes poor decisions regarding when to come for crosses
4. His positioning is questionable
5. The biggest problem he has is he seems scared of getting hurt. Tonight when that ball bounced at him from the corner he shit himself and flapped at it. He needs to be a lot braver in those situations. He could have easily scooped that ball up and took the pressure off if he had confidence in himself. He seemed to try and chest it away.

Dont want to be negative but he is costing us points and putting the defence under pressure . Very poor at the moment after a promising start.

I would also go with Murphy for the qpr game. The defence need somebody they can rely on behind then . He has never really let us down when he has played .

We have to remember that before the Bolton game, we had the best defence in the league.

Even now, we have the fourth or fifth best.

Biggest problem tonight was the communication between the back four and Etheridge.

Agreed, Etheridge doesn't seem to ever speak! Corner could have been prevented if he had shouted for Bamba to leave a ball and that's only a couple of weeks after his lack of communication made Paterson head in his own net.

bamba headed the ball and was slightly ahead of their striker...so...how does Bamba leaving it not give their guy a free header..?

The striker was right next to Bamba - if he had let it go it would have bounced and gone for a goal kick. Bamba was screaming at Etheridge afterwards.

take another look...nailed on goal if he dont head it..and bamba is always shouting..

Not sure about last night but Reading goal was 100% Paterson’s fault

Etheridge is a poor goalkeeper who is out of his depth at this level.

1. His distribution is slow
2. His kicking is average
3. He makes poor decisions regarding when to come for crosses
4. His positioning is questionable
5. The biggest problem he has is he seems scared of getting hurt. Tonight when that ball bounced at him from the corner he shit himself and flapped at it. He needs to be a lot braver in those situations. He could have easily scooped that ball up and took the pressure off if he had confidence in himself. He seemed to try and chest it away.

Dont want to be negative but he is costing us points and putting the defence under pressure . Very poor at the moment after a promising start.

I would also go with Murphy for the qpr game. The defence need somebody they can rely on behind then . He has never really let us down when he has played .

I only disagree with one of your points and that is his kicking is well below average for a championhip GK. I have never seen a GK at this level who cant kick a football. When he wasn't kicking the ball in to touch, he was kicking it to Tomlin probably the shortest player on the pitch constantly instead of aiming it to our 6ft 4 striker. I agree I would go with Murphy as he has never let us down and I'm not sure about Camp atm.

Etheridge is a poor goalkeeper who is out of his depth at this level.

1. His distribution is slow
2. His kicking is average
3. He makes poor decisions regarding when to come for crosses
4. His positioning is questionable
5. The biggest problem he has is he seems scared of getting hurt. Tonight when that ball bounced at him from the corner he shit himself and flapped at it. He needs to be a lot braver in those situations. He could have easily scooped that ball up and took the pressure off if he had confidence in himself. He seemed to try and chest it away.

Dont want to be negative but he is costing us points and putting the defence under pressure . Very poor at the moment after a promising start.

I would also go with Murphy for the qpr game. The defence need somebody they can rely on behind then . He has never really let us down when he has played .

I only disagree with one of your points and that is his kicking is well below average for a championhip GK. I have never seen a GK at this level who cant kick a football. When he wasn't kicking the ball in to touch, he was kicking it to Tomlin probably the shortest player on the pitch constantly instead of aiming it to our 6ft 4 striker. I agree I would go with Murphy as he has never let us down and I'm not sure about Camp atm.

And I agree with you with one exception - doesn't matter how tall your centre forward is if he makes absolutely no effort to get off the ground and challenge for the ball even if you accept that playing that way is not playing to his strengths. Unfortunately that is how we play - lumping the ball forward in the air with little or no purpose.

We have to remember that before the Bolton game, we had the best defence in the league.

Even now, we have the fourth or fifth best.

Biggest problem tonight was the communication between the back four and Etheridge.

Agreed, Etheridge doesn't seem to ever speak! Corner could have been prevented if he had shouted for Bamba to leave a ball and that's only a couple of weeks after his lack of communication made Paterson head in his own net.

bamba headed the ball and was slightly ahead of their striker...so...how does Bamba leaving it not give their guy a free header..?

The striker was right next to Bamba - if he had let it go it would have bounced and gone for a goal kick. Bamba was screaming at Etheridge afterwards.

take another look...nailed on goal if he dont head it..and bamba is always shouting..

Not sure about last night but Reading goal was 100% Paterson’s fault

I disagree as Etheridge did not shout so Paterson tried to head it away. Even after the ball is in the net Etheridge did not scream at Paterson and he would have if he shouted.
He needs to be vocal and boss the area.

Also I think Murphy will start next game

We have to remember that before the Bolton game, we had the best defence in the league.

Even now, we have the fourth or fifth best.

Biggest problem tonight was the communication between the back four and Etheridge.

Agreed, Etheridge doesn't seem to ever speak! Corner could have been prevented if he had shouted for Bamba to leave a ball and that's only a couple of weeks after his lack of communication made Paterson head in his own net.

bamba headed the ball and was slightly ahead of their striker...so...how does Bamba leaving it not give their guy a free header..?

The striker was right next to Bamba - if he had let it go it would have bounced and gone for a goal kick. Bamba was screaming at Etheridge afterwards.

take another look...nailed on goal if he dont head it..and bamba is always shouting..

Not sure about last night but Reading goal was 100% Paterson’s fault

I disagree as Etheridge did not shout so Paterson tried to head it away. Even after the ball is in the net Etheridge did not scream at Paterson and he would have if he shouted.
He needs to be vocal and boss the area.

Also I think Murphy will start next game

We have to remember that before the Bolton game, we had the best defence in the league.

Even now, we have the fourth or fifth best.

Biggest problem tonight was the communication between the back four and Etheridge.

Agreed, Etheridge doesn't seem to ever speak! Corner could have been prevented if he had shouted for Bamba to leave a ball and that's only a couple of weeks after his lack of communication made Paterson head in his own net.

bamba headed the ball and was slightly ahead of their striker...so...how does Bamba leaving it not give their guy a free header..?

The striker was right next to Bamba - if he had let it go it would have bounced and gone for a goal kick. Bamba was screaming at Etheridge afterwards.

take another look...nailed on goal if he dont head it..and bamba is always shouting..

Not sure about last night but Reading goal was 100% Paterson’s fault

I disagree as Etheridge did not shout so Paterson tried to head it away. Even after the ball is in the net Etheridge did not scream at Paterson and he would have if he shouted.
He needs to be vocal and boss the area.

Also I think Murphy will start next game

We have to remember that before the Bolton game, we had the best defence in the league.

Even now, we have the fourth or fifth best.

Biggest problem tonight was the communication between the back four and Etheridge.

Agreed, Etheridge doesn't seem to ever speak! Corner could have been prevented if he had shouted for Bamba to leave a ball and that's only a couple of weeks after his lack of communication made Paterson head in his own net.

bamba headed the ball and was slightly ahead of their striker...so...how does Bamba leaving it not give their guy a free header..?

The striker was right next to Bamba - if he had let it go it would have bounced and gone for a goal kick. Bamba was screaming at Etheridge afterwards.

take another look...nailed on goal if he dont head it..and bamba is always shouting..

Not sure about last night but Reading goal was 100% Paterson’s fault

I disagree as Etheridge did not shout so Paterson tried to head it away. Even after the ball is in the net Etheridge did not scream at Paterson and he would have if he shouted.
He needs to be vocal and boss the area.

Also I think Murphy will start next game

It’s all about opinions mate but with the ball going straight to Paterson, he should have headed it away, not flicked it into the net - regardless of whether he had a call or not. He was at the front post - his job was to clear it if it came anywhere near him.

We have to remember that before the Bolton game, we had the best defence in the league.

Even now, we have the fourth or fifth best.

Biggest problem tonight was the communication between the back four and Etheridge.

Agreed, Etheridge doesn't seem to ever speak! Corner could have been prevented if he had shouted for Bamba to leave a ball and that's only a couple of weeks after his lack of communication made Paterson head in his own net.

bamba headed the ball and was slightly ahead of their striker...so...how does Bamba leaving it not give their guy a free header..?

The striker was right next to Bamba - if he had let it go it would have bounced and gone for a goal kick. Bamba was screaming at Etheridge afterwards.

take another look...nailed on goal if he dont head it..and bamba is always shouting..

Not sure about last night but Reading goal was 100% Paterson’s fault

I disagree as Etheridge did not shout so Paterson tried to head it away. Even after the ball is in the net Etheridge did not scream at Paterson and he would have if he shouted.
He needs to be vocal and boss the area.

Also I think Murphy will start next game

It’s all about opinions mate but with the ball going straight to Paterson, he should have headed it away, not flicked it into the net - regardless of whether he had a call or not. He was at the front post - his job was to clear it if it came anywhere near him.

i agree with you and Neil Warnock and Callum Patterson...not Charlie
a striker would have been proud of it Warnock said...but its Etheridges fault for not shouting dont score
this one is even better than the one that went under the wall at Preston and it was said...but Etheridge lined up the wall ...that jumped.
Etheridge is by no means perfect, but at least pick on his weaknesses.

Without opinion can someone prove to me (statistics from the championship a plus) that camp is better than Murphy or etheridge

Havent got stats for Camp, but usually if a player is making mistakes costing points surely someone else deserves to come in and have their chance?? Only reason Etheridge had so many clean sheets is because of defence in front of him. Personally I dont rate him at all.Just my opinion.

Havent got stats for Camp, but usually if a player is making mistakes costing points surely someone else deserves to come in and have their chance?? Only reason Etheridge had so many clean sheets is because of defence in front of him. Personally I dont rate him at all.Just my opinion.

he hasnt cost us points though just left a few goals in that all keepers do...havent seen one yet where there hasnt been half a dozen worse in the division on the same day and certainly none as bad as those Camp let in for Bournemouth in the other thread.

this blame him for EVERY goal { even bullet headers from his own defenders who were grown up enough to take the blame } is very under 9s..

Etheridge is the most underrated player in our team amongst our own fans IMO!

Prior to the Bolton defeat, we had the best defence in the league!

Etheridge had no chance with the Bolton goal, was left cruelly exposed for the whole 90 minutes against Fulham and if you believe him culpable for the Preston goal, then that's one of very few goals we've conceded this season, you could make him responsible for.

Some of our fans are so one-eyed, especially the ones that keep on harping back to how good Marshall was, when he was shocking at coming out for crosses, would mostly stay on his line, let the defenders challenge for aerial crosses and not come out nearly often enough to cover behind the defence.

One of the main reasons why we had the best defence prior to Bolton, was because Etheridge isn't a goalkeeper who is content to stay on his line and can be seen throughout all our games this season, racing off his line and sweeping up any danger behind the back four. Yes, he's slipped up on a couple of occasions, having been caught in possession, or having a kick charged down on the odd occasion, but how many goals has he cost us, compared to those he's stopped from happening, due to his willingness to race out of his goal and cover behind the back four?

His kicking was shocking when he first started playing for us and clearly this is something he still needs to work on, but I can't believe how many posts I've read on here, with people not recognising the huge improvement in his kicking of late and giving him any credit for the amount of work he must have been doing in training, possibly in his own time, to improve his kicking ability, given the vastly improved kicking performances he's put in during the last few games. Tom Heaton's kicking was just as bad when he first came to us and whilst he's unfortunately injured for Burnley ATM, he's been captaining them for the past 2 seasons and consistently makes the full England squad.

Personally, I hope we persevere with Etheridge, but I certainly wouldn't want us to bring in a goalkeeper in Camp, who hasn't played for yonks and one who may have better communication skills than Etheridge, but won't provide us with the level of cover we've had behind the back four this season, even though his kicking may be better. I also feel very sorry for Murphy, as I didn't feel he deserved to be dropped when we brought in McGregor and had been playing very well IMO. So if Warnock does decide to make a change in goal, then I hope it's Murphy who comes in.