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Thu Dec 21, 2017 12:04 pm
Thu Dec 21, 2017 12:16 pm
stephendavid wrote:What sides that based on annis?
Thu Dec 21, 2017 12:37 pm
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Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:03 pm
Forever Blue wrote:stephendavid wrote:What sides that based on annis?
Some British football Stephen, a whole chapter on Chelsea.
But mainly abroad, Bulgaria etc.
I wrote in the book as well, about my old friend Fat Pat Chelsea RIP
Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:12 pm
stephendavid wrote:Forever Blue wrote:stephendavid wrote:What sides that based on annis?
Some British football Stephen, a whole chapter on Chelsea.
But mainly abroad, Bulgaria etc.
I wrote in the book as well, about my old friend Fat Pat Chelsea RIP
Fair play annis il have a butchers at that.....only met pat once in town sams bar seemed a right decent fella
Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:14 pm
Forever Blue wrote:stephendavid wrote:Forever Blue wrote:stephendavid wrote:What sides that based on annis?
Some British football Stephen, a whole chapter on Chelsea.
But mainly abroad, Bulgaria etc.
I wrote in the book as well, about my old friend Fat Pat Chelsea RIP
Fair play annis il have a butchers at that.....only met pat once in town sams bar seemed a right decent fella
Stephen, Pat (Chelsea) I first met when I was 16years old and we became very good friends, I brought him to watch away at Peterborough in the old 4th Division. He was the same age as me and sadly died three years ago.
I went to his funeral, lads came from all over the World and Millwall, Chelsea, Spurs, West Ham were all together at his funeral![]()
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For me " Beyond The Hatred " was a very honest written book by the Authors, with some excellent and interesting stories about their life's and how they got involved in the English hooligan culture. Its very rare you find so much truth nowadays in books and this one had it spot on. Plus it was great to read a chapter on Fat Pat Chelsea RIP from so many names from the past.
I highly reccomend this book and worth reading.
Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:32 pm
Forever Blue wrote:I can Highly recommend " Beyond The Hatred " by Tosh Hacktivista McIntosh & Gilly Black and Great Chapter on Chelsea's Fat Pat RIP
https://www.amazon.co.uk/JRF-Beyond-Hat ... dpSrc=srch![]()
Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:35 pm
ccfcsince1962 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:I can Highly recommend " Beyond The Hatred " by Tosh Hacktivista McIntosh & Gilly Black and Great Chapter on Chelsea's Fat Pat RIP
https://www.amazon.co.uk/JRF-Beyond-Hat ... dpSrc=srch![]()
Annis
I just had a glance on Amazon about this book. It appears to have had just three reviews so far (one of them is yours). I suspect the other two are done by the authors ("Gilly Black " gives himself an "excellent" review rating on another book review site) as one is anonymous and one is under the name "Francis Drake". A bit of false publicity by the authors in an attempt to boost sales?
Talking of false names , I see that Gilly Black and Tosh McIntosh are in fact two Bulgarians whose real names are Philip Bakyov and Todor Stoychov. Any idea why they use the assumed names?
I have no idea whether the book is any good at all - in my opinion most if not all of a similar genre that I have read are badly written , but "each to their own". I might wait until it hits the bargain bin in The Works to buy one and read it in order to be fair in any assessment of this one.
Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:47 pm
ccfcsince1962 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:I can Highly recommend " Beyond The Hatred " by Tosh Hacktivista McIntosh & Gilly Black and Great Chapter on Chelsea's Fat Pat RIP
https://www.amazon.co.uk/JRF-Beyond-Hat ... dpSrc=srch![]()
Annis
I just had a glance on Amazon about this book. It appears to have had just three reviews so far (one of them is yours). I suspect the other two are done by the authors ("Gilly Black " gives himself an "excellent" review rating on another book review site) as one is anonymous and one is under the name "Francis Drake". A bit of false publicity by the authors in an attempt to boost sales?
Talking of false names , I see that Gilly Black and Tosh McIntosh are in fact two Bulgarians whose real names are Philip Bakyov and Todor Stoychov. Any idea why they use the assumed names?
I have no idea whether the book is any good at all - in my opinion most if not all of a similar genre that I have read are badly written , but "each to their own". I might wait until it hits the bargain bin in The Works to buy one and read it in order to be fair in any assessment of this one.
Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:50 pm
Forever Blue wrote:ccfcsince1962 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:I can Highly recommend " Beyond The Hatred " by Tosh Hacktivista McIntosh & Gilly Black and Great Chapter on Chelsea's Fat Pat RIP
https://www.amazon.co.uk/JRF-Beyond-Hat ... dpSrc=srch![]()
Annis
I just had a glance on Amazon about this book. It appears to have had just three reviews so far (one of them is yours). I suspect the other two are done by the authors ("Gilly Black " gives himself an "excellent" review rating on another book review site) as one is anonymous and one is under the name "Francis Drake". A bit of false publicity by the authors in an attempt to boost sales?
Talking of false names , I see that Gilly Black and Tosh McIntosh are in fact two Bulgarians whose real names are Philip Bakyov and Todor Stoychov. Any idea why they use the assumed names?
I have no idea whether the book is any good at all - in my opinion most if not all of a similar genre that I have read are badly written , but "each to their own". I might wait until it hits the bargain bin in The Works to buy one and read it in order to be fair in any assessment of this one.
Keith, the book has not long ago come out.
Its not just about violence, its beyond that, its about friendships and and about the cultures in their country as well as ours.
Its about how they came to the UK and made friends and showing how British violence at football is nothing like what it is in their Country.
They both now live in London, they seem very decent blokes and both work and settled down with families![]()
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I have never met them, they contacted me and asked me to write about Pat Dolan RIP, which I did.
Then when I went back to Cardiff this month, they posted me a copy of the book
Thu Dec 21, 2017 2:46 pm
stephendavid wrote:ccfcsince1962 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:I can Highly recommend " Beyond The Hatred " by Tosh Hacktivista McIntosh & Gilly Black and Great Chapter on Chelsea's Fat Pat RIP
https://www.amazon.co.uk/JRF-Beyond-Hat ... dpSrc=srch![]()
Annis
I just had a glance on Amazon about this book. It appears to have had just three reviews so far (one of them is yours). I suspect the other two are done by the authors ("Gilly Black " gives himself an "excellent" review rating on another book review site) as one is anonymous and one is under the name "Francis Drake". A bit of false publicity by the authors in an attempt to boost sales?
Talking of false names , I see that Gilly Black and Tosh McIntosh are in fact two Bulgarians whose real names are Philip Bakyov and Todor Stoychov. Any idea why they use the assumed names?
I have no idea whether the book is any good at all - in my opinion most if not all of a similar genre that I have read are badly written , but "each to their own". I might wait until it hits the bargain bin in The Works to buy one and read it in order to be fair in any assessment of this one.
Calm down victor meldrew
Thu Dec 21, 2017 2:50 pm
Forever Blue wrote:stephendavid wrote:ccfcsince1962 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:I can Highly recommend " Beyond The Hatred " by Tosh Hacktivista McIntosh & Gilly Black and Great Chapter on Chelsea's Fat Pat RIP
https://www.amazon.co.uk/JRF-Beyond-Hat ... dpSrc=srch![]()
Annis
I just had a glance on Amazon about this book. It appears to have had just three reviews so far (one of them is yours). I suspect the other two are done by the authors ("Gilly Black " gives himself an "excellent" review rating on another book review site) as one is anonymous and one is under the name "Francis Drake". A bit of false publicity by the authors in an attempt to boost sales?
Talking of false names , I see that Gilly Black and Tosh McIntosh are in fact two Bulgarians whose real names are Philip Bakyov and Todor Stoychov. Any idea why they use the assumed names?
I have no idea whether the book is any good at all - in my opinion most if not all of a similar genre that I have read are badly written , but "each to their own". I might wait until it hits the bargain bin in The Works to buy one and read it in order to be fair in any assessment of this one.
Calm down victor meldrew
Stephen, I am use to Victor Meldrew by nowhe admits he loves to come on here just to be negative or to personally wind me up.
Thu Dec 21, 2017 3:04 pm
Forever Blue wrote:stephendavid wrote:ccfcsince1962 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:I can Highly recommend " Beyond The Hatred " by Tosh Hacktivista McIntosh & Gilly Black and Great Chapter on Chelsea's Fat Pat RIP
https://www.amazon.co.uk/JRF-Beyond-Hat ... dpSrc=srch![]()
Annis
I just had a glance on Amazon about this book. It appears to have had just three reviews so far (one of them is yours). I suspect the other two are done by the authors ("Gilly Black " gives himself an "excellent" review rating on another book review site) as one is anonymous and one is under the name "Francis Drake". A bit of false publicity by the authors in an attempt to boost sales?
Talking of false names , I see that Gilly Black and Tosh McIntosh are in fact two Bulgarians whose real names are Philip Bakyov and Todor Stoychov. Any idea why they use the assumed names?
I have no idea whether the book is any good at all - in my opinion most if not all of a similar genre that I have read are badly written , but "each to their own". I might wait until it hits the bargain bin in The Works to buy one and read it in order to be fair in any assessment of this one.
Calm down victor meldrew
Stephen, I am use to Victor Meldrew by nowhe admits he loves to come on here just to be negative or to personally wind me up.
Thu Dec 21, 2017 3:05 pm
Thu Dec 21, 2017 3:13 pm
stephendavid wrote:Zzzzzzz
Thu Dec 21, 2017 3:21 pm
CaerphillyBluebird15 wrote:stephendavid wrote:Zzzzzzz
You love a good wind up mind don't you![]()
Thu Dec 21, 2017 3:23 pm
stephendavid wrote:CaerphillyBluebird15 wrote:stephendavid wrote:Zzzzzzz
You love a good wind up mind don't you![]()
Who me.......never lad i just nearly fell a kip reading it thats all mun
Thu Dec 21, 2017 3:26 pm
CaerphillyBluebird15 wrote:stephendavid wrote:CaerphillyBluebird15 wrote:stephendavid wrote:Zzzzzzz
You love a good wind up mind don't you![]()
Who me.......never lad i just nearly fell a kip reading it thats all mun
I know mate![]()
You going up to Bolton?
Thu Dec 21, 2017 3:26 pm
stephendavid wrote:CaerphillyBluebird15 wrote:stephendavid wrote:CaerphillyBluebird15 wrote:stephendavid wrote:Zzzzzzz
You love a good wind up mind don't you![]()
Who me.......never lad i just nearly fell a kip reading it thats all mun
I know mate![]()
You going up to Bolton?
Yes my friend you?
Thu Dec 21, 2017 3:27 pm
CaerphillyBluebird15 wrote:stephendavid wrote:CaerphillyBluebird15 wrote:stephendavid wrote:CaerphillyBluebird15 wrote:stephendavid wrote:Zzzzzzz
You love a good wind up mind don't you![]()
Who me.......never lad i just nearly fell a kip reading it thats all mun
I know mate![]()
You going up to Bolton?
Yes my friend you?
Aye aye leaving 7:15 on Lawnmowers bus
Thu Dec 21, 2017 3:28 pm
stephendavid wrote:CaerphillyBluebird15 wrote:stephendavid wrote:CaerphillyBluebird15 wrote:stephendavid wrote:CaerphillyBluebird15 wrote:stephendavid wrote:Zzzzzzz
You love a good wind up mind don't you![]()
Who me.......never lad i just nearly fell a kip reading it thats all mun
I know mate![]()
You going up to Bolton?
Yes my friend you?
Aye aye leaving 7:15 on Lawnmowers bus
Top man safe trip,8am from canton ours see you up there hopefully 3pts aswell