Why only come for the last 5 games if we are doing well?

Why only come for the last 5 games if we are doing well?


I'm sure there are many fans out there who are watching the scores and our league position and if we are still doing really well come beginning of April they will start coming or/and perhaps they will pick and choose some games this season.

Money wise it would probably be more worth there while to buy a half season ticket.
They would probably get more value for money doing this even if they miss a game or two during the last half of the season rather than buying single tickets. Or failing which the flex ticket (if they are still doing this).

Ok so many people may have thought after our first 5 wins that perhaps they'll wait to see what happens but I'm telling you now, there is no better time to come on board than NOW! 2nd in the league and how important will these extra fans and atmosphere be during the Xmas period.

We have a run of games which may appear that we can pick up quite a few points but remember that no game is easy in the championship. The lower teams will be right up for a battle with us and they are so desperate for points they are working out new ways of scrapping through a game to gain a result. With extra fans down there and extra noise we can really help the team through this period. If we have a successful Xmas period of results than we are really setting ourselves up nicely for the run in! I have a feeling during our last promotion season that Xmas we had a great run of results.

For any fans out there who are thinking of coming along for just a few matches or the last 5-6 games - it's well worth looking at the options as the money you spend maybe not Huge amount different from actually buying a half season ticket.

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Great point well made

Yes excellent point

Sadly this happens at most clubs, not just ours.

For me they are pure Glory Hunters, the saving of money then does not come in to it. They can't be bothered making the journey down to the City for the run of mill matches, they want to be there for the big ones and will pay more money and not even think about it.

Cardiff City currently have 14,300 Season ticket holders including the Xmas ones(12 games)and still rising and over a 1,000 members

By the end of December, personally I was hoping and still hoping that City reach 18,000 season ticket holders.

Once your a season ticket holder you then make more of an effort to attend games

If We had 18,000 season ticket holders, I believe the home crowds will be up to about 22,000

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This point has been done to death!!

It's up to people to come or not and for whatever reason the world has changed and people don't do as they did many years ago.

Surely the most important thing and which is relevant is that you are attending matches and supporting the team/club---well done.

Going down this week to buy four half season tickets for the family stand, two adults and two kids £319 great value.

This point has been done to death!!

It's up to people to come or not and for whatever reason the world has changed and people don't do as they did many years ago.

Surely the most important thing and which is relevant is that you are attending matches and supporting the team/club---well done.

Quite right,this and other threads like it only preach to the converted.Telling people they're a bunch of kunts(in so many words)if they don't won't work either.

Buy a half season ticket now and be sure of keeping your seat next season.You can choose a good seat now and be guaranteed first refusal on it for next season.If we are a top flight team next year and you want to buy a season ticket in August the best seats may have gone.

This point has been done to death!!

It's up to people to come or not and for whatever reason the world has changed and people don't do as they did many years ago.

Surely the most important thing and which is relevant is that you are attending matches and supporting the team/club---well done.

Quite right,this and other threads like it only preach to the converted.Telling people they're a bunch of kunts(in so many words)if they don't won't work either.

Martin, they are not Kunts they are plain Glory hunters

On a serious note, its just a discussion and yes it is getting to our Club, Warnock,Vince, loyal fans, myself etc etc wondering where are these so called fans going to finally turn up?

Going down this week to buy four half season tickets for the family stand, two adults and two kids £319 great value.

Mark, brilliant value and Well Done

This point has been done to death!!

It's up to people to come or not and for whatever reason the world has changed and people don't do as they did many years ago.

Surely the most important thing and which is relevant is that you are attending matches and supporting the team/club---well done.

Karl, I agree and all these threads do is deflect from the positivity of those who do attend

I've gone past the stage of worrying about those people, as each will have their own reasons (often different to those stated, e.g. "It's all down to Tan...", "I hate the lack of atmosphere...", "They never come to see me when I'm bad...", "I never forgave them for selling Toshack before I was born...", blah, blah, blah!

There will always be some people who genuinely cannot attend every game (work, family, location, cost, etc.) and I have respect for those people. Others truly are bandwagon jumpers and (as stated) will attend for the so-called 'big' games or 'big' teams whenever they are around and simply don't care otherwise

All we can do is carry on attending ourselves and encourage others to come along when we can!

This point has been done to death!!

It's up to people to come or not and for whatever reason the world has changed and people don't do as they did many years ago.

Surely the most important thing and which is relevant is that you are attending matches and supporting the team/club---well done.

Karl, I agree and all these threads do is deflect from the positivity of those who do attend

I've gone past the stage of worrying about those people, as each will have their own reasons (often different to those stated, e.g. "It's all down to Tan...", "I hate the lack of atmosphere...", "They never come to see me when I'm bad...", "I never forgave them for selling Toshack before I was born...", blah, blah, blah!

There will always be some people who genuinely cannot attend every game (work, family, location, cost, etc.) and I have respect for those people. Others truly are bandwagon jumpers and (as stated) will attend for the so-called 'big' games or 'big' teams whenever they are around and simply don't care otherwise

All we can do is carry on attending ourselves and encourage others to come along when we can!

Chris, I've started back and did miss it but couldn't be arsed with all that had gone on and it is hard to get yourself up to going again.

However banging on about it all the time is as bad as Brexit these days.

Some of my mates have started going back so all is not lost and whoever comes back the majority are City supporters.

This point has been done to death!!

It's up to people to come or not and for whatever reason the world has changed and people don't do as they did many years ago.

Surely the most important thing and which is relevant is that you are attending matches and supporting the team/club---well done.

Karl, I agree and all these threads do is deflect from the positivity of those who do attend

I've gone past the stage of worrying about those people, as each will have their own reasons (often different to those stated, e.g. "It's all down to Tan...", "I hate the lack of atmosphere...", "They never come to see me when I'm bad...", "I never forgave them for selling Toshack before I was born...", blah, blah, blah!

There will always be some people who genuinely cannot attend every game (work, family, location, cost, etc.) and I have respect for those people. Others truly are bandwagon jumpers and (as stated) will attend for the so-called 'big' games or 'big' teams whenever they are around and simply don't care otherwise

All we can do is carry on attending ourselves and encourage others to come along when we can!

Chris, I've started back and did miss it but couldn't be arsed with all that had gone on and it is hard to get yourself up to going again.

However banging on about it all the time is as bad as Brexit these days.

Some of my mates have started going back so all is not lost and whoever comes back the majority are City supporters.

Slowly but surely, Karl

Seriously?

Please tell me I'm not the only one who's fed up of this now.

How many times can you post the same thing recycled in a different way, and before anyone says you don't have to read them it's pretty hard not to when they are made sticky's and on here constantly.

This has now gone far from just talking about crowds into a full scale unhealthy obsession fueled on negativity and I can only come to the general consensus that some people are just not happy unless they have got something to moan about.

My Father started taking us regularly after Christmas in the 1992/1993 Division 3 Promotion Season, there were two factors in this, one was the fact Rick Wright made it affordable and the second was the Club was doing well on the pitch so you could say I started off as a Glory Supporter, who gives a shit? For this reason I could not give a monkeys if people come for the last 5 games, if they then stay and the Club can get promotion and maintain a few years in the Premiership these are the people you want down there to give us the bigger crowds anyway so why moan.

We ain't unique in this. Crowds will increase and decrease with success or failure just like those below after promotion or relegation.

Huddersfield have gone from 12 to 20 thousand
Bournemouth's crowds have doubled
Crystal Palace went from 17 to 25 thousand after promotion to the Premiership
Hull went from 18 to 25 thousand the first time, 17 to 24 thousand the 2nd time and 17 to 20 thousand the 3rd time, they are back down to 15,500 now!

On the opposite end of the scale.

Sunderland have gone from averaging 41,000 in the Premiership to 27,000 in the Championship, they have lost 14,000 fans in the space of a season and that is after 10 back to back years in the Premiership.

Boro have also dropped by 5,000

We are averaging 19,500 at the moment up 3,000 on our average from last season and it's only going to get better, we will have a big crowd boxing day and we have the Wurzels, Sunderland, Wolves, Birmingham to come.

On the road our numbers are on the rise, ok our trips up North are still pulling us poor numbers but the games at Barnsley and Preston being a Tuesday night hasn't helped or Birmingham moved to the Friday night and Reading coming up the Monday plus its a shame Villa is not on a Saturday, on the plus side we took 4,000 to Fulham, over 3,000 to Bristol City, we will have a good following I would imagine 2,000 at QPR NYD, we will sell out for Brentford and hopefully we can take a few to Leeds for once, we will take a good following 2,000+ to Derby on a Saturday 3pm and Sheffield Utd on Easter Monday will be popular.

It doesn't matter what the population of Cardiff or South East Wales is, it can be 7 billion and it won't make a difference if people are not interested in Football which they clearly ain't hence the crowds. We have not had big crowds since the later 40's early 50's and even then our average wasn't massive 37,000 at their peak and that was a one off mainly late 20's.

Just accept our crowds for what they are and let it go, saying things like we should be getting 25,000 on Friday Night against Norwich is laughable and based on nothing.

Seriously?

Please tell me I'm not the only one who's fed up of this now.

How many times can you post the same thing recycled in a different way, and before anyone says you don't have to read them it's pretty hard not to when they are made sticky's and on here constantly.

This has now gone far from just talking about crowds into a full scale unhealthy obsession fueled on negativity and I can only come to the general consensus that some people are just not happy unless they have got something to moan about.

My Father started taking us regularly after Christmas in the 1992/1993 Division 3 Promotion Season, there were two factors in this, one was the fact Rick Wright made it affordable and the second was the Club was doing well on the pitch so you could say I started off as a Glory Supporter, who gives a shit? For this reason I could not give a monkeys if people come for the last 5 games, if they then stay and the Club can get promotion and maintain a few years in the Premiership these are the people you want down there to give us the bigger crowds anyway so why moan.

We ain't unique in this. Crowds will increase and decrease with success or failure just like those below after promotion or relegation.

Huddersfield have gone from 12 to 20 thousand
Bournemouth's crowds have doubled
Crystal Palace went from 17 to 25 thousand after promotion to the Premiership
Hull went from 18 to 25 thousand the first time, 17 to 24 thousand the 2nd time and 17 to 20 thousand the 3rd time, they are back down to 15,500 now!

On the opposite end of the scale.

Sunderland have gone from averaging 41,000 in the Premiership to 27,000 in the Championship, they have lost 14,000 fans in the space of a season and that is after 10 back to back years in the Premiership.

Boro have also dropped by 5,000

We are averaging 19,500 at the moment up 3,000 on our average from last season and it's only going to get better, we will have a big crowd boxing day and we have the Wurzels, Sunderland, Wolves, Birmingham to come.

On the road our numbers are on the rise, ok our trips up North are still pulling us poor numbers but the games at Barnsley and Preston being a Tuesday night hasn't helped or Birmingham moved to the Friday night and Reading coming up the Monday plus its a shame Villa is not on a Saturday, on the plus side we took 4,000 to Fulham, over 3,000 to Bristol City, we will have a good following I would imagine 2,000 at QPR NYD, we will sell out for Brentford and hopefully we can take a few to Leeds for once, we will take a good following 2,000+ to Derby on a Saturday 3pm and Sheffield Utd on Easter Monday will be popular.

It doesn't matter what the population of Cardiff or South East Wales is, it can be 7 billion and it won't make a difference if people are not interested in Football which they clearly ain't hence the crowds. We have not had big crowds since the later 40's early 50's and even then our average wasn't massive 37,000 at their peak and that was a one off mainly late 20's.

Just accept our crowds for what they are and let it go, saying things like we should be getting 25,000 on Friday Night against Norwich is laughable and based on nothing.

all correct..its also no accident that the nine most successful clubs in winning trophies also happen to be the 9 clubs with the biggest all time average attendances..
what i really dont get though is the amount of resentment and distain shown towards non regulars..or new fans.
my recolection of the really bad days when we were getting less than 3k is that when we got an attendance bump {doing well } we were all chuffed and the extra support was welcomed..i cant for the life of me imagine walking in the CCS to 18k and thinking the extra newer 15k are glory hunting plastics that make me sick and should stay at home in their armchairs.
maybe i got it wrong and people were full of resentment back then too...but i dont think so.

Getting my half season ticket this week, I'm on Warnocks battle bus to the Premiership

People will do whatever they choose to do, and it's better they come down for the final half dozen or so games than not come at all. If we get promoted, it is obvious that our crowds will grow. There are plenty around who are not interested in watching the likes of Burton or Millwall down here, but Chelsea or Arsenal etc., are a completely different thing.
Just need to accept that we are getting quite good crowds at the moment considering we are what we've always been, a fairly small unfashionable side based in an unfashionable part of the country. We may think we are big and deserve huge support, but that is because most of us on here are fanatical City fans and tend to always see things through our blue tinted glasses.

People will do whatever they choose to do, and it's better they come down for the final half dozen or so games than not come at all. If we get promoted, it is obvious that our crowds will grow. There are plenty around who are not interested in watching the likes of Burton or Millwall down here, but Chelsea or Arsenal etc., are a completely different thing.
Just need to accept that we are getting quite good crowds at the moment considering we are what we've always been, a fairly small unfashionable side based in an unfashionable part of the country. We may think we are big and deserve huge support, but that is because most of us on here are fanatical City fans and tend to always see things through our blue tinted glasses.

good post.
and its no different to other sports.
Pulev pulls out = loads moaning that they should get refunds..can only presume they wouldnt have bought tickets for a fight v Takam and therefore wouldnt have sold so many tickets.
Wales v All Blacks = full house....Wales v Georgia.= plenty of tickets available.
of course more people want to see Arsenal than want to see Burton and should it be Arsenal in the prem the chances are the Cardiff team would be better quality too.

i seriously doubt most of the people who went to the boxing knew who pulev was


but i take your point, it happens with all sports, complaining about it is just a waste of time

This point has been done to death!!

It's up to people to come or not and for whatever reason the world has changed and people don't do as they did many years ago.

Surely the most important thing and which is relevant is that you are attending matches and supporting the team/club---well done.

Karl, I agree and all these threads do is deflect from the positivity of those who do attend

I've gone past the stage of worrying about those people, as each will have their own reasons (often different to those stated, e.g. "It's all down to Tan...", "I hate the lack of atmosphere...", "They never come to see me when I'm bad...", "I never forgave them for selling Toshack before I was born...", blah, blah, blah!

There will always be some people who genuinely cannot attend every game (work, family, location, cost, etc.) and I have respect for those people. Others truly are bandwagon jumpers and (as stated) will attend for the so-called 'big' games or 'big' teams whenever they are around and simply don't care otherwise

All we can do is carry on attending ourselves and encourage others to come along when we can!

I’ll always remember the guy who said selling Brayford was the last straw and he wasn’t going anymore. Loved that one.

Seriously?

Please tell me I'm not the only one who's fed up of this now.

How many times can you post the same thing recycled in a different way, and before anyone says you don't have to read them it's pretty hard not to when they are made sticky's and on here constantly.

This has now gone far from just talking about crowds into a full scale unhealthy obsession fueled on negativity and I can only come to the general consensus that some people are just not happy unless they have got something to moan about.

My Father started taking us regularly after Christmas in the 1992/1993 Division 3 Promotion Season, there were two factors in this, one was the fact Rick Wright made it affordable and the second was the Club was doing well on the pitch so you could say I started off as a Glory Supporter, who gives a shit? For this reason I could not give a monkeys if people come for the last 5 games, if they then stay and the Club can get promotion and maintain a few years in the Premiership these are the people you want down there to give us the bigger crowds anyway so why moan.

We ain't unique in this. Crowds will increase and decrease with success or failure just like those below after promotion or relegation.

Huddersfield have gone from 12 to 20 thousand
Bournemouth's crowds have doubled
Crystal Palace went from 17 to 25 thousand after promotion to the Premiership
Hull went from 18 to 25 thousand the first time, 17 to 24 thousand the 2nd time and 17 to 20 thousand the 3rd time, they are back down to 15,500 now!

On the opposite end of the scale.

Sunderland have gone from averaging 41,000 in the Premiership to 27,000 in the Championship, they have lost 14,000 fans in the space of a season and that is after 10 back to back years in the Premiership.

Boro have also dropped by 5,000

We are averaging 19,500 at the moment up 3,000 on our average from last season and it's only going to get better, we will have a big crowd boxing day and we have the Wurzels, Sunderland, Wolves, Birmingham to come.

On the road our numbers are on the rise, ok our trips up North are still pulling us poor numbers but the games at Barnsley and Preston being a Tuesday night hasn't helped or Birmingham moved to the Friday night and Reading coming up the Monday plus its a shame Villa is not on a Saturday, on the plus side we took 4,000 to Fulham, over 3,000 to Bristol City, we will have a good following I would imagine 2,000 at QPR NYD, we will sell out for Brentford and hopefully we can take a few to Leeds for once, we will take a good following 2,000+ to Derby on a Saturday 3pm and Sheffield Utd on Easter Monday will be popular.

It doesn't matter what the population of Cardiff or South East Wales is, it can be 7 billion and it won't make a difference if people are not interested in Football which they clearly ain't hence the crowds. We have not had big crowds since the later 40's early 50's and even then our average wasn't massive 37,000 at their peak and that was a one off mainly late 20's.

Just accept our crowds for what they are and let it go, saying things like we should be getting 25,000 on Friday Night against Norwich is laughable and based on nothing.

Absolutely spot on, I couldn’t have put it better myself and it’s exactly how I see it.

i seriously doubt most of the people who went to the boxing knew who pulev was


but i take your point, it happens with all sports, complaining about it is just a waste of time

i had no idea who Pulev was or is myself..but was aware of people moaning.

Fans must be interested in these topics as they always get good views and make good debates


No matter what you all say, Our Club,Warnock,Supporters Club,Many Fans and Myself are worried as City have done everything they can on and off the field to get fans to turn up and yet our home average is only about 19,500.

The away support is slowly picking up, thankfully

Yet City are undefeated at home with the best home record in the Championship

Fans must be interested in these topics as they always get good views and make good debates


No matter what you all say, Our Club,Warnock,Supporters Club,Many Fans and Myself are worried as City have done everything they can on and off the field to get fans to turn up and yet our home average is only about 19,500.

The away support is slowly picking up, thankfully

Yet City are undefeated at home with the best home record in the Championship

too focused on views if you ask me ( i know you didn't)


i do wish there was more concised discussion here instead of 5 threads on the same thing or worcester telling us that qpr game is tonight like 5 times


ive given up trying though now

Seriously?

Please tell me I'm not the only one who's fed up of this now.

How many times can you post the same thing recycled in a different way, and before anyone says you don't have to read them it's pretty hard not to when they are made sticky's and on here constantly.

This has now gone far from just talking about crowds into a full scale unhealthy obsession fueled on negativity and I can only come to the general consensus that some people are just not happy unless they have got something to moan about.

My Father started taking us regularly after Christmas in the 1992/1993 Division 3 Promotion Season, there were two factors in this, one was the fact Rick Wright made it affordable and the second was the Club was doing well on the pitch so you could say I started off as a Glory Supporter, who gives a shit? For this reason I could not give a monkeys if people come for the last 5 games, if they then stay and the Club can get promotion and maintain a few years in the Premiership these are the people you want down there to give us the bigger crowds anyway so why moan.

We ain't unique in this. Crowds will increase and decrease with success or failure just like those below after promotion or relegation.

Huddersfield have gone from 12 to 20 thousand
Bournemouth's crowds have doubled
Crystal Palace went from 17 to 25 thousand after promotion to the Premiership
Hull went from 18 to 25 thousand the first time, 17 to 24 thousand the 2nd time and 17 to 20 thousand the 3rd time, they are back down to 15,500 now!

On the opposite end of the scale.

Sunderland have gone from averaging 41,000 in the Premiership to 27,000 in the Championship, they have lost 14,000 fans in the space of a season and that is after 10 back to back years in the Premiership.

Boro have also dropped by 5,000

We are averaging 19,500 at the moment up 3,000 on our average from last season and it's only going to get better, we will have a big crowd boxing day and we have the Wurzels, Sunderland, Wolves, Birmingham to come.

On the road our numbers are on the rise, ok our trips up North are still pulling us poor numbers but the games at Barnsley and Preston being a Tuesday night hasn't helped or Birmingham moved to the Friday night and Reading coming up the Monday plus its a shame Villa is not on a Saturday, on the plus side we took 4,000 to Fulham, over 3,000 to Bristol City, we will have a good following I would imagine 2,000 at QPR NYD, we will sell out for Brentford and hopefully we can take a few to Leeds for once, we will take a good following 2,000+ to Derby on a Saturday 3pm and Sheffield Utd on Easter Monday will be popular.

It doesn't matter what the population of Cardiff or South East Wales is, it can be 7 billion and it won't make a difference if people are not interested in Football which they clearly ain't hence the crowds. We have not had big crowds since the later 40's early 50's and even then our average wasn't massive 37,000 at their peak and that was a one off mainly late 20's.

Just accept our crowds for what they are and let it go, saying things like we should be getting 25,000 on Friday Night against Norwich is laughable and based on nothing.

Absolutely spot on, I couldn’t have put it better myself and it’s exactly how I see it.

And here’s someone else that thinks this post is spot on.
I’m also sick of the people banging on about attendances and couldn’t agree more with the posters last sentence.
We are what we are, which is pretty good and moving along nicely.
Get over it ffs!!

Yes excellent point

Sadly this happens at most clubs, not just ours.

For me they are pure Glory Hunters, the saving of money then does not come in to it. They can't be bothered making the journey down to the City for the run of mill matches, they want to be there for the big ones and will pay more money and not even think about it.

Cardiff City currently have 14,300 Season ticket holders including the Xmas ones(12 games)and still rising and over a 1,000 members

By the end of December, personally I was hoping and still hoping that City reach 18,000 season ticket holders.

Once your a season ticket holder you then make more of an effort to attend games

If We had 18,000 season ticket holders, I believe the home crowds will be up to about 22,000

this is correct - a fan who goes season after season experiences many stretches of games, indeed sometimes entire seasons, which are boring and can barely be classed as entertainment.

many thousands (i would expect our crowds to be at a bare minimum 18,000) are staying away - some no doubt because money is tight, but others because they are not attracted by the 'product' on offer.

This is irony at it's best .
Saying that we should have 25k every game, BUT no glory hunters allowed ????