Is there rivalry between us and Millwall?

In the past (I’ve been going to watch city for about 12 years now and supported them longer) and sometimes in the build up to the match I’ll hear - ooh not Millwall! We have history with them. Or The atmosphere will be electric with Millwall. Or Watch out they will cause trouble! All this said, for the last number of years when we have played Millwall (when they’ve been in the championship) to me the atmosphere seems like just any other match. So I just wondered what it is with Millwall? When we go away to theirs I heard that someone mentioned it could be a bubble trip? But why if there’s no trouble? I am aware that some (not all) Millwall fans may have abit of a reputation (just like us) but is this from 20 years ago? Looking forward to the match and do not want trouble between fans - I just want an electric atmosphere with some good banter!

You always detect a mini rivalry between us and Leeds or Aston Villa etc so is Millwall the same?

The game at Ninian in I think 1999 was mental, as bad as anything seen at the old ground

It's obviously calmed down a lot since then, however Millwall still really haven't completely lost their reputation and on the odd occasion can still cause havoc with their nonsense

With 1000 expected still need to be a bit wary of them

We were quite big rivals in the 70's,80's and late 90's, but not really nowadays.

Millwall Respect Cardiff Fans and its very mutual.

We were quite big rivals in the 70's,80's and late 90's, but not really nowadays.

Millwall Respect Cardiff Fans and its very mutual.

That's good to know I wondered if the millwall away fans are on a bubble and will we be made to do a bubble trip on our trip to the den in Feb. I know it's a long way off but I'm likely to be east of London for that week and was hoping to go direct to the ground myself. If it's a bubble than there would be no point me driving miles out Of my way. Never been to the den so was one on my to do list.

That said - I.l probably arrange it all then....the TV will move the fixture! Lol

We were quite big rivals in the 70's,80's and late 90's, but not really nowadays.

Millwall Respect Cardiff Fans and its very mutual.

That's good to know I wondered if the millwall away fans are on a bubble and will we be made to do a bubble trip on our trip to the den in Feb. I know it's a long way off but I'm likely to be east of London for that week and was hoping to go direct to the ground myself. If it's a bubble than there would be no point me driving miles out Of my way. Never been to the den so was one on my to do list.

That said - I.l probably arrange it all then....the TV will move the fixture! Lol

Well as it stands the game is on the same day as England v Wales in the egg chasing at Twickenham so trains to London could be interesting if it isn't moved and isn't a bubble!

You always detect a mini rivalry between us and Leeds or Aston Villa etc so is Millwall the same?

we were in the same division as Millwall from the mid 1960s to the late 1970s even being relegated and promoted the same season as each other.{therefore unlike Villa or Leeds who we rarely played it was not viewed as a BIG game in terms of football itself } .this period coincided with the skinheads era and trouble in football at its peak..neither club took big followings to one another but back then you were lucky to see away fans {at all }at NP 3 or 4 times a year and the Den was the same...the rivalry sort of came out of respect that to some degree year in year out both sets of fans would turn up at each others.

My own personal view only rivalry was between both clubs hooligan groups as both were very active a few years back and both always turned up at each others grounds looking for trouble!!

We were quite big rivals in the 70's,80's and late 90's, but not really nowadays.

Millwall Respect Cardiff Fans and its very mutual.

That's good to know I wondered if the millwall away fans are on a bubble and will we be made to do a bubble trip on our trip to the den in Feb. I know it's a long way off but I'm likely to be east of London for that week and was hoping to go direct to the ground myself. If it's a bubble than there would be no point me driving miles out Of my way. Never been to the den so was one on my to do list.

That said - I.l probably arrange it all then....the TV will move the fixture! Lol

No bubble trip or restrictions for their visit to Cardiff

Never respected Millwall tbh, just a thug like club with fans who I could only describe as scum. I respect Leeds fans a lot more as they at least follow their club everywhere and make huge amounts of noise unlike Millwall who fight amongst themselves, attack innocent fans, invade pitches and attack opposite players and are just a nasty club to play against. Small club with thugs who attach themselves with the club and call themselves fans. Don't think there is a rivalry between us and them as you can tell as our fans don't really show up for the games against them like they do for Leeds, Swansea, Bristol, Villa etc. But like most clubs no one likes Millwall so hopefully we smash them. just my opinion anyway.

We were quite big rivals in the 70's,80's and late 90's, but not really nowadays.

Millwall Respect Cardiff Fans and its very mutual.

That's good to know I wondered if the millwall away fans are on a bubble and will we be made to do a bubble trip on our trip to the den in Feb. I know it's a long way off but I'm likely to be east of London for that week and was hoping to go direct to the ground myself. If it's a bubble than there would be no point me driving miles out Of my way. Never been to the den so was one on my to do list.

That said - I.l probably arrange it all then....the TV will move the fixture! Lol

Well as it stands the game is on the same day as England v Wales in the egg chasing at Twickenham so trains to London could be interesting if it isn't moved and isn't a bubble!

Hmm very interesting

We were quite big rivals in the 70's,80's and late 90's, but not really nowadays.

Millwall Respect Cardiff Fans and its very mutual.

That's good to know I wondered if the millwall away fans are on a bubble and will we be made to do a bubble trip on our trip to the den in Feb. I know it's a long way off but I'm likely to be east of London for that week and was hoping to go direct to the ground myself. If it's a bubble than there would be no point me driving miles out Of my way. Never been to the den so was one on my to do list.

That said - I.l probably arrange it all then....the TV will move the fixture! Lol

We once took at least 800 lads to Millwall around about 1999, a police inspector described Cardiff's mob that day as an International mob and only England oiled of competed with it.

Even in night games up there we would take 4 coaches of lads and in 1986 100's of us went up there on the train in the Cup and really shocked Millwall.

Then in recent years all the bubble/ rv matches finished it.

We were quite big rivals in the 70's,80's and late 90's, but not really nowadays.

Millwall Respect Cardiff Fans and its very mutual.

Know a fair few Millwall fans living and working in London and to whenever I mention i'm Cardiff there's always a bit of mutual respect whereas QPR fans pretty much hate us to a man.

Usually Millwall fans are pretty down to earth lads.

Never respected Millwall tbh, just a thug like club with fans who I could only describe as scum. I respect Leeds fans a lot more as they at least follow their club everywhere and make huge amounts of noise unlike Millwall who fight amongst themselves, attack innocent fans, invade pitches and attack opposite players and are just a nasty club to play against. Small club with thugs who attach themselves with the club and call themselves fans. Don't think there is a rivalry between us and them as you can tell as our fans don't really show up for the games against them like they do for Leeds, Swansea, Bristol, Villa etc. But like most clubs no one likes Millwall so hopefully we smash them. just my opinion anyway.

agree in that they have never attracted big crowds here or us there..in fact these games back in the day probably kept a lot away...our opening game of the 1999/ 2000 season swears this up with just about 10k in attendance...but what a 10k

We were quite big rivals in the 70's,80's and late 90's, but not really nowadays.

Millwall Respect Cardiff Fans and its very mutual.

Know a fair few Millwall fans living and working in London and to whenever I mention i'm Cardiff there's always a bit of mutual respect whereas QPR fans pretty much hate us to a man.

Usually Millwall fans are pretty down to earth lads.

That's exactly how I found it

I have visited the New Den on numerous occasions, usually travelling by train and the only Millwall fans we have ever encountered have been shirters and decent fans and they were all good as gold. If you don't go looking for trouble you probably won't find it. That said, the way that the new ground is policed and visiting fans controlled with separate walk ways from S. Bermondsey station right to the away turnstiles is a far cry from the Old Den which was a very dangerous and intimidating place to visit. As other posters have already said, amongst the older lads there is a kind of mutual respect.

I have visited the New Den on numerous occasions, usually travelling by train and the only Millwall fans we have ever encountered have been shirters and decent fans and they were all good as gold. If you don't go looking for trouble you probably won't find it. That said, the way that the new ground is policed and visiting fans controlled with separate walk ways from S. Bermondsey station right to the away turnstiles is a far cry from the Old Den which was a very dangerous and intimidating place to visit. As other posters have already said, amongst the older lads there is a kind of mutual respect.

Exactly Terry and yes their is mutual respect with their older lads

We were quite big rivals in the 70's,80's and late 90's, but not really nowadays.

Millwall Respect Cardiff Fans and its very mutual.

That's good to know I wondered if the millwall away fans are on a bubble and will we be made to do a bubble trip on our trip to the den in Feb. I know it's a long way off but I'm likely to be east of London for that week and was hoping to go direct to the ground myself. If it's a bubble than there would be no point me driving miles out Of my way. Never been to the den so was one on my to do list.

That said - I.l probably arrange it all then....the TV will move the fixture! Lol

We once took at least 800 lads to Millwall around about 1999, a police inspector described Cardiff's mob that day as an International mob and only England oiled of competed with it.

Even in night games up there we would take 4 coaches of lads and in 1986 100's of us went up there on the train in the Cup and really shocked Millwall.

Then in recent years all the bubble/ rv matches finished it.

Top top mob that day, and quite a few doormen were amongst us who I haven't seen since lol. I was at the home game too but missed the grandstand action, but apparent!y Wall were unlucky as they walked into the docks lot, u kno who pmsl. Still I doff my hat for their effort FP to them

We were quite big rivals in the 70's,80's and late 90's, but not really nowadays.

Millwall Respect Cardiff Fans and its very mutual.

That's good to know I wondered if the millwall away fans are on a bubble and will we be made to do a bubble trip on our trip to the den in Feb. I know it's a long way off but I'm likely to be east of London for that week and was hoping to go direct to the ground myself. If it's a bubble than there would be no point me driving miles out Of my way. Never been to the den so was one on my to do list.

That said - I.l probably arrange it all then....the TV will move the fixture! Lol

We once took at least 800 lads to Millwall around about 1999, a police inspector described Cardiff's mob that day as an International mob and only England oiled of competed with it.

Even in night games up there we would take 4 coaches of lads and in 1986 100's of us went up there on the train in the Cup and really shocked Millwall.

Then in recent years all the bubble/ rv matches finished it.

Top top mob that day, and quite a few doormen were amongst us who I haven't seen since lol. I was at the home game too but missed the grandstand action, but apparent!y Wall were unlucky as they walked into the docks lot, u kno who pmsl. Still I doff my hat for their effort FP to them

We certainly were

Cold Blow Lane used to scare the shit out of me. It was like Beruit. I remember that cup game too. Wasn't there also tow replays and we finally beat them in the third game at home?

Cold Blow Lane used to scare the shit out of me. It was like Beruit. I remember that cup game too. Wasn't there also tow replays and we finally beat them in the third game at home?

yes. it meant we played a 3rd round game and then the 4th round game against Stoke the same week.i went to Stoke too {the old ground }

Cold Blow Lane used to scare the shit out of me. It was like Beruit. I remember that cup game too. Wasn't there also tow replays and we finally beat them in the third game at home?

yes. it meant we played a 3rd round game and then the 4th round game against Stoke the same week.i went to Stoke too {the old ground }

Me too. I think we lost 2_1 and someone broke a coppers leg.

Never respected Millwall tbh, just a thug like club with fans who I could only describe as scum. I respect Leeds fans a lot more as they at least follow their club everywhere and make huge amounts of noise unlike Millwall who fight amongst themselves, attack innocent fans, invade pitches and attack opposite players and are just a nasty club to play against. Small club with thugs who attach themselves with the club and call themselves fans. Don't think there is a rivalry between us and them as you can tell as our fans don't really show up for the games against them like they do for Leeds, Swansea, Bristol, Villa etc. But like most clubs no one likes Millwall so hopefully we smash them. just my opinion anyway.

agree in that they have never attracted big crowds here or us there..in fact these games back in the day probably kept a lot away...our opening game of the 1999/ 2000 season swears this up with just about 10k in attendance...but what a 10k

In 99/00 season 10k would have been a big attendance for us.