' This Saturday’s Crowd '

What do you think the crowd will be on Saturday, I’m going for 18,500. Second in the league we should be getting 24,000

19,722...I won't be there, all day Punk Gig in Pontypridd for me.

A bit over 19,000 I reckon. Can't see Millwall bringing many down, maybe 800-900? Not sure on their away support tbh

What do you think the crowd will be on Saturday, I’m going for 18,500. Second in the league we should be getting 24,000

Darren, Prob be about 18,500-19,000 incl about 800-1,000 Millwall.
It should be 25,000 plus.

' The Top 14 Best Supported Championship Clubs at Home 2017-18 So Far '
(Not my comments underneath"


1. Leeds United, 32,435- years of false hopes and still they turn up even at high match prices,best supported club in the Champ.
2. Aston Villa, 30,800- Big club with a strong fan base.
3. Sunderland, 29,042– Their stadium holds around 48,000.
4. Sheffield Wednesday- 28,204- The side have somewhat struggled but the fans continue to turn up in their numbers.
5. Derby -28,165- Get more at home then their rivals Nottingham Forest and have achieved far less success.
6. Wolves- 27,704- They look like real title contenders and their fans are behind them.
7. Sheffield United- 26,757- just back in this division from division one, no success for years
8. Norwich- 25,930 Have the highest percentage of filling their stadium in the league.
9. Middlesborough- 25,597- Relegated from the Premier League last season.
10. Nottingham Forest- 25,395- Forest fans continue to back their side at the City Ground and turn up in good numbers.
11. Birmingham- 21,234- Good numbers for a side who have struggled for years.
12.Cardiff- 20,840- The club have started the season well.
13. Bristol City-19,900- Capacity at Ashton Gate recently increased to approximately 28,000.
14. Fulham- 19,771- Good turnout for a club in London with so much competition.


Cardiff City's home average is so far 20,840 including an average of 2,211 fans visiting





' Division 1 '

Bradford City, 20,534- The Bantams have the highest average home attendance in League One so far. Their stadium holds just over 25,000, meaning it is nearly full most weeks.

' BRADFORD CITY BEST SUPPORTED CLUB IN THE TWO LOWER DIVISIONS '

I find it strange how being second in the table and we are not getting larger crowds, surely people cannot be still be peed off about the re-brand etc?

I'll be there with my son and hopefully more will return every game

A bit over 19,000 I reckon. Can't see Millwall bringing many down, maybe 800-900? Not sure on their away support tbh

They may bring more and stay down for the jodshua fight

Think I'll be pleased if we got over 20k

What do you think the crowd will be on Saturday, I’m going for 18,500. Second in the league we should be getting 24,000

Darren, Prob be about 18,500-19,000 incl about 800-1,000 Millwall.
It should be 25,000 plus.

19,000 won't be that impressive, but is still 25% up on lasts years average

I find it strange how being second in the table and we are not getting larger crowds, surely people cannot be still be peed off about the re-brand etc?

We only have 13k ST holders so at present we are getting ave 5k walk up crowd which is good so far, and it will undoubtedly increase after xmas with half season ST sold! And it is an increase on last season so far

Getting a bit tedious week after week. If Cardiff go up as champions they will have a higher average than malkys team, fact. Is that not progress? A year ago we were looking at 13,000 max. We haven't had fans built on generations of success, by that I mean continuous top flight football.

Growing up the crowds we get now we're a fantasy. Loving every minute this season.

What do you think the crowd will be on Saturday, I’m going for 18,500. Second in the league we should be getting 24,000

Darren, Prob be about 18,500-19,000 incl about 800-1,000 Millwall.
It should be 25,000 plus.

19,000 won't be that impressive, but is still 25% up on lasts years average

I totally disagree.

The away support coming to Cardiff is higher and secondly, City on the pitch are getting results which we could only dream about and have been top of the Championship for periods and City's prices are fantastic, I paid for my daughter aged 12 and myself £23 and Season ticket prices £50/£99 etc have been superb by our club

Our Club has done everything they can to get crowds back, We have 260,000 on our datebase they need to turn up more often.
Not once we are a Premier League club, to watch the opposition.


Personally I think are home crowds are very very poor and should be at least 24,000 plus.




1. Leeds United, 32,435- years of false hopes and still they turn up even at high match prices,best supported club in the Champ.
2. Aston Villa, 30,800- Big club with a strong fan base.
3. Sunderland, 29,042– Their stadium holds around 48,000.
4. Sheffield Wednesday- 28,204- The side have somewhat struggled but the fans continue to turn up in their numbers.
5. Derby -28,165- Get more at home then their rivals Nottingham Forest and have achieved far less success.
6. Wolves- 27,704- They look like real title contenders and their fans are behind them.
7. Sheffield United- 26,757- just back in this division from division one, no success for years
8. Norwich- 25,930 Have the highest percentage of filling their stadium in the league.
9. Middlesborough- 25,597- Relegated from the Premier League last season.
10. Nottingham Forest- 25,395- Forest fans continue to back their side at the City Ground and turn up in good numbers.
11. Birmingham- 21,234- Good numbers for a side who have struggled for years.
12.Cardiff- 20,840- The club have started the season well.
13. Bristol City-19,900- Capacity at Ashton Gate recently increased to approximately 28,000.
14. Fulham- 19,771- Good turnout for a club in London with so much competition.


Cardiff City's home average is so far 20,840 including an average of 2,211 fans visiting

I find it strange how being second in the table and we are not getting larger crowds, surely people cannot be still be peed off about the re-brand etc?

I don't think it's about still being "peed off", just a lot of fans who became disillusioned during the rebrand and stopped attending (myself included) may not have chosen to return. And that's Tan's fault, some of it will never be undone.

All I can say to those people is that renewing my season ticket since we went back blue was the best thing I've done and (particularly since Warnock came in) the passion/buzz I get on matchdays is every bit as good now as before the rebrand.

Even if we stay in the top 2/3 for the rest of the season we will probably still only average about 21-22,000 over the season.. no use complaining about it.. that's what size of club we are.

What I will say is this year we are turning up in bigger numbers and making more noise.. so whichever you look at it it's getting better

Millwall around 8-900 sold yesterday.
Expecting over 1000

Even if we stay in the top 2/3 for the rest of the season we will probably still only average about 21-22,000 over the season.. no use complaining about it.. that's what size of club we are.

What I will say is this year we are turning up in bigger numbers and making more noise.. so whichever you look at it it's getting better

I agree with you. We are getting the sort of crowds that I would expect at this stage of the season and taking into account our league position. If we are still in the fight for promotion after xmas, the gates will increase and we may start getting 22k to 25k. In the meantime we are what we are, this is not a massive club despite what some people seem to think, and I would guess most on here are right about the crowd for the Millwall game, probably just short of 20k.

Even if we stay in the top 2/3 for the rest of the season we will probably still only average about 21-22,000 over the season.. no use complaining about it.. that's what size of club we are.

What I will say is this year we are turning up in bigger numbers and making more noise.. so whichever you look at it it's getting better

I agree with you. We are getting the sort of crowds that I would expect at this stage of the season and taking into account our league position. If we are still in the fight for promotion after xmas, the gates will increase and we may start getting 22k to 25k. In the meantime we are what we are, this is not a massive club despite what some people seem to think, and I would guess most on here are right about the crowd for the Millwall game, probably just short of 20k.

But a decent sized club at this level, what we do have is the potential to be massive with sustained top flight football. Your burnleys and WBA of the world can't get bigger. Cardiff don't fall in to that, we have a huge floater base that would become regular attendees. Is what it is.

Even if we stay in the top 2/3 for the rest of the season we will probably still only average about 21-22,000 over the season.. no use complaining about it.. that's what size of club we are.

What I will say is this year we are turning up in bigger numbers and making more noise.. so whichever you look at it it's getting better

I agree with you. We are getting the sort of crowds that I would expect at this stage of the season and taking into account our league position. If we are still in the fight for promotion after xmas, the gates will increase and we may start getting 22k to 25k. In the meantime we are what we are, this is not a massive club despite what some people seem to think, and I would guess most on here are right about the crowd for the Millwall game, probably just short of 20k.

But a decent sized club at this level, what we do have is the potential to be massive with sustained top flight football. Your burnleys and WBA of the world can't get bigger. Cardiff don't fall in to that, we have a huge floater base that would become regular attendees. Is what it is.

That is something that I have heard constantly for the last 50 years. We have the potential to be massive. The potential may be there, but we have never been anything other than a small to medium size club during my lifetime. Surely the potential is there right now, but even though we have been top two for most of the first quarter of this season, we are still not drawing in the crowds to suggest we are a massive club in waiting. Would be interesting to see what would happen if we could have a few years in the top flight, I honestly have no idea what sort of gates we would get on a regular basis.

Even if we stay in the top 2/3 for the rest of the season we will probably still only average about 21-22,000 over the season.. no use complaining about it.. that's what size of club we are.

What I will say is this year we are turning up in bigger numbers and making more noise.. so whichever you look at it it's getting better

I agree with you. We are getting the sort of crowds that I would expect at this stage of the season and taking into account our league position. If we are still in the fight for promotion after xmas, the gates will increase and we may start getting 22k to 25k. In the meantime we are what we are, this is not a massive club despite what some people seem to think, and I would guess most on here are right about the crowd for the Millwall game, probably just short of 20k.

But a decent sized club at this level, what we do have is the potential to be massive with sustained top flight football. Your burnleys and WBA of the world can't get bigger. Cardiff don't fall in to that, we have a huge floater base that would become regular attendees. Is what it is.

That is something that I have heard constantly for the last 50 years. We have the potential to be massive. The potential may be there, but we have never been anything other than a small to medium size club during my lifetime. Surely the potential is there right now, but even though we have been top two for most of the first quarter of this season, we are still not drawing in the crowds to suggest we are a massive club in waiting. Would be interesting to see what would happen if we could have a few years in the top flight, I honestly have no idea what sort of gates we would get on a regular basis.

Have also heard it but we have yet to achieve top flight football on a regular basis, true we have no idea.

Think I'll be pleased if we got over 20k

I,ll be there, first game of the season for me and my nephew coming down from Cranleigh, Surrey to stay weekend specifically for the game both hoping for a City win

I find it strange how being second in the table and we are not getting larger crowds, surely people cannot be still be peed off about the re-brand etc?

our average of 20k is awesome I can't believe people are moaning only a few years ago we were getting half that

People are moaning because the rest of the top 6 are getting bigger crowds than us.

I find it strange how being second in the table and we are not getting larger crowds, surely people cannot be still be peed off about the re-brand etc?

our average of 20k is awesome I can't believe people are moaning only a few years ago we were getting half that

It's not awesome Wez, compared to a lot of clubs, but I do agree we should not moan, we've just got admit we are a small club and not what many of us though we were including myself and I personally for many years thought we were a big club, just got to accept it

It does hurt as I really did believe we were a bigger club.

I have to commend the club for the last couple of years they have done everything they could to get bigger crowds from a £1 to a £5 to cheap season tickets to NEIL WARNOCK

Correct.we are not a big club just a club in a big area whose fans will turn up when we play "big name" club.hence 27000 against Leeds.Ipswich /millwall just don't have the same pulling power.in my opinion the 3 best supported clubs in Britain are Newcastle Norwich and Portsmouth because they turn up to watch their team rather than just turn up if they are playing someone"big"

I find it strange how being second in the table and we are not getting larger crowds, surely people cannot be still be peed off about the re-brand etc?

our average of 20k is awesome I can't believe people are moaning only a few years ago we were getting half that

It's not awesome Wez, compared to a lot of clubs, but I do agree we should not moan, we've just got admit we are a small club and not what many of us though we were including myself and I personally for many years thought we were a big club, just got to accept it

It does hurt as I really did believe we were a bigger club.

I have to commend the club for the last couple of years they have done everything they could to get bigger crowds from a £1 to a £5 to cheap season tickets to NEIL WARNOCK

We have both been going down long enough to know that although we have a big catchment area, Cardiff City has never been a really big draw for the people of S E Wales. I recall the days of Toshack, Clarke etc., when we pushing for promotion. We had a seriously strong side back then with a lot of talented players, and yet we still only managed around 20k or so, sometimes as much as 25k but sometimes 16k. We are getting similar gates to almost 50 years ago when we top of this division.

I find it strange how being second in the table and we are not getting larger crowds, surely people cannot be still be peed off about the re-brand etc?

our average of 20k is awesome I can't believe people are moaning only a few years ago we were getting half that

It's not awesome Wez, compared to a lot of clubs, but I do agree we should not moan, we've just got admit we are a small club and not what many of us though we were including myself and I personally for many years thought we were a big club, just got to accept it

It does hurt as I really did believe we were a bigger club.

I have to commend the club for the last couple of years they have done everything they could to get bigger crowds from a £1 to a £5 to cheap season tickets to NEIL WARNOCK

We have both been going down long enough to know that although we have a big catchment area, Cardiff City has never been a really big draw for the people of S E Wales. I recall the days of Toshack, Clarke etc., when we pushing for promotion. We had a seriously strong side back then with a lot of talented players, and yet we still only managed around 20k or so, sometimes as much as 25k but sometimes 16k. We are getting similar gates to almost 50 years ago when we top of this division.

I honestly thought though Steve in today's modern world where most clubs crowds have increased home and away we would be getting far bigger crowds, our home support has increased a little bit, but our away support is No better than many Non league/ lower division clubs, some fans say why worry. A club without the fans and the passion of the fans can never be that succesful and even Warnock has stressed so many times how much it means to have big support behind the club.

Your right we are what we are, sad really

I find it strange how being second in the table and we are not getting larger crowds, surely people cannot be still be peed off about the re-brand etc?

our average of 20k is awesome I can't believe people are moaning only a few years ago we were getting half that

It's not awesome Wez, compared to a lot of clubs, but I do agree we should not moan, we've just got admit we are a small club and not what many of us though we were including myself and I personally for many years thought we were a big club, just got to accept it

It does hurt as I really did believe we were a bigger club.

I have to commend the club for the last couple of years they have done everything they could to get bigger crowds from a £1 to a £5 to cheap season tickets to NEIL WARNOCK

We have both been going down long enough to know that although we have a big catchment area, Cardiff City has never been a really big draw for the people of S E Wales. I recall the days of Toshack, Clarke etc., when we pushing for promotion. We had a seriously strong side back then with a lot of talented players, and yet we still only managed around 20k or so, sometimes as much as 25k but sometimes 16k. We are getting similar gates to almost 50 years ago when we top of this division.

I honestly thought though Steve in today's modern world where most clubs crowds have increased home and away we would be getting far bigger crowds, our home support has increased a little bit, but our away support is No better than many Non league/ lower division clubs, some fans say why worry. A club without the fans and the passion of the fans can never be that succesful and even Warnock has stressed so many times how much it means to have big support behind the club.

Your right we are what we are, sad really

it is sad as we live in quite a highly populated area. I don't know why we have not been able to attract bigger crowds on a regular basis. I wonder if it's because there are so many local rugby sides in Cardiff and the surrounding valleys. I took a walk up to Llantwit Fardre's rugby ground a few Saturdays back. There were probably around 100 people there, and this is just one of loads of teams participating in a lot of divisions throughout the area. Add this to the stacks of local football clubs in the area, and that could explain some of it. I suppose every other team has the same sort of competition, but we are situated right in the middle of an area known for it's rugby rather than it's football.

I find it strange how being second in the table and we are not getting larger crowds, surely people cannot be still be peed off about the re-brand etc?

our average of 20k is awesome I can't believe people are moaning only a few years ago we were getting half that

It's not awesome Wez, compared to a lot of clubs, but I do agree we should not moan, we've just got admit we are a small club and not what many of us though we were including myself and I personally for many years thought we were a big club, just got to accept it

It does hurt as I really did believe we were a bigger club.

I have to commend the club for the last couple of years they have done everything they could to get bigger crowds from a £1 to a £5 to cheap season tickets to NEIL WARNOCK

We have both been going down long enough to know that although we have a big catchment area, Cardiff City has never been a really big draw for the people of S E Wales. I recall the days of Toshack, Clarke etc., when we pushing for promotion. We had a seriously strong side back then with a lot of talented players, and yet we still only managed around 20k or so, sometimes as much as 25k but sometimes 16k. We are getting similar gates to almost 50 years ago when we top of this division.

I honestly thought though Steve in today's modern world where most clubs crowds have increased home and away we would be getting far bigger crowds, our home support has increased a little bit, but our away support is No better than many Non league/ lower division clubs, some fans say why worry. A club without the fans and the passion of the fans can never be that succesful and even Warnock has stressed so many times how much it means to have big support behind the club.

Your right we are what we are, sad really

it is sad as we live in quite a highly populated area. I don't know why we have not been able to attract bigger crowds on a regular basis. I wonder if it's because there are so many local rugby sides in Cardiff and the surrounding valleys. I took a walk up to Llantwit Fardre's rugby ground a few Saturdays back. There were probably around 100 people there, and this is just one of loads of teams participating in a lot of divisions throughout the area. Add this to the stacks of local football clubs in the area, and that could explain some of it. I suppose every other team has the same sort of competition, but we are situated right in the middle of an area known for it's rugby rather than it's football.

Rugby Being bigger than Football in Wales is a myth as Cardiff has the second most registered park football sides in England and Wales with people playing on Sat or Sunday .
I think it's a thing in Wales where everyone just turns up two or three times a year for big events, they struggle to do it on a regular basics.