DECLAN JOHN: "SAYS WHAT NEIL WARNOCK SAID TO HIM"

DECLAN JOHN: THIS IS WHAT NEIL WARNOCK TOLD ME AFTER I AGREED MOVE TO RANGERS


7th September, 2017,

By Harry Sykes

New Rangers signing Declan John has revealed that the only advice he was given by Cardiff boss Neil Warnock was to enjoy himself at Ibrox.

John joined the Glasgow giants last week from the English Championship leaders on a season-long loan with a view to a permanent transfer if it suits all parties.

The Wales international has been signed by Pedro Caixinha to provide cover for skipper Lee Wallace at left-back, although he can also slot in on the left of midfield.

John, 22, has made the move to Scotland after been deemed surplus to requirements at Cardiff, where he had made just a single start since Warnock was appointed manager last October.

The player revealed that the veteran boss had simple advice for him after he agreed to join Rangers, urging him “to just come here and enjoy it”.


Football Insider exclusively revealed on Wednesday morning of last week that the Scottish giants were trying to land John on an initial loan with a view to a permanent deal.

The deal progressed during the day and he was announced as Pedro Caixinha’s 11th summer signing within 24 hours.

The 22-year-old has found himself behind Joe Bennett in the pecking order at the Cardiff City Stadium and Warnock has been happy to let him move on for now.

John is in the final year of his contract at Cardiff, which paved the way for Rangers to swoop and tie up a season-long loan.

John has come through the ranks at Cardiff and made 52 appearances for the club since breaking into the first-team in 2012.

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Can Rangers sign him on a pre contract in January?

Can Rangers sign him on a pre contract in January?

Yes they will owe us compo tho any club that signs him will have to

Can Rangers sign him on a pre contract in January?

Yes they will owe us compo tho any club that signs him will have to

Celtic didn't for Ledley so not sure they will have to.

Think a deal may have been agreed if all parties are happy.

Can Rangers sign him on a pre contract in January?

Yes they will owe us compo tho any club that signs him will have to

Celtic didn't for Ledley so not sure they will have to.

Initially, I wasn't sure if the Joe Ledley 'thing' was that he signed for Celtic on a specific date to avoid that payment being due but a little research appears to show that the 'Training Compensation' agreement is between Premier League and EFL clubs only

That's not to say Joe didn't 'engineer' his move to avoid any kind of compensation being paid in order maximise his own earning potential but by signing for Celtic at any time (even a pre-nuptual) wouldn't have seen City get a penny from them

This is what it says (in part):

"Where a professional player, under the age of 24, has been offered a new contract by his club (subject to certain requirements that the offer must meet set out in Rule 64.3 of the Football League Rules) and he rejects that offer in order to take up the opportunity to sign for another club, compensation will be payable."

"In the majority of cases, clubs will reach mutual agreement on a compensation fee. However, in others the two clubs’ valuations will differ, sometimes significantly, and the matter will need to be settled through an arbitration process."

"That process is operated by the Professional Football Compensation Committee (PFCC). The PFCC is incorporated under the rules of both The Football League and Premier League, and forms part of the collective bargaining agreement with the Professional Footballers’ Association. The PFCC comprises of an independent Chairman, appointees from The Football League and Premier League (as appropriate), an appointee of The Professional Footballers’ Association and an appointee of the League Managers’ Association."

http://fullcontactlaw.co.uk/2016/11/com ... 4-mystery/

Examples:


DANNY INGS

Danny Ings signed for Burnley as a 19 year old in the summer of 2011 after many years at Bournemouth. It was reported that Burnley had paid a transfer fee in the region of £1 million.
Danny appeared 122 times for Burnley in the League, scoring 38 goals, with 11 of those goals coming in the 2014/15 season in the Premier League.

Signing for Liverpool in the summer of 2015 as a free agent, the PFCC would ultimately order Liverpool to pay Burnley an initial compensation fee of £6.5 million.

Additionally, Liverpool must pay up to £1.5 million based on further appearances and also 20% of any profit they make in the event that they sell the player to another club.


JAMES COLLINS

James Collins joined League Two club Shrewsbury Town as 21 year old striker in January 2011, having previously been an Aston Villa player (who made no first team appearances for Villa).

Quickly establishing himself as a first-team regular, James appeared 66 times in the League for Shrewsbury between 2011 and 2012, scoring 22 League goals. In the 2011/2012 season, Shrewsbury won promotion and James was their top scorer.
In the summer of 2012, only 18 months after signing for Shrewsbury, an out-of-contract James signed for Swindon Town, who themselves had just been promoted to League One.

The PFCC decided that Swindon Town should pay Shrewsbury an initial compensation fee of £140,000.

Additionally, further payments of £20,000 after 15, 30, 45 and 60 appearances (totalling up to £80,000) would be due.
Swindon would also pay Shrewsbury 20% of any profit it makes from selling the player to another club at any point in the future.

Can Rangers sign him on a pre contract in January?

Yes they will owe us compo tho any club that signs him will have to

Celtic didn't for Ledley so not sure they will have to.

Initially, I wasn't sure if the Joe Ledley 'thing' was that he signed for Celtic on a specific date to avoid that payment being due but a little research appears to show that the 'Training Compensation' agreement is between Premier League and EFL clubs only

That's not to say Joe didn't 'engineer' his move to avoid any kind of compensation being paid in order maximise his own earning potential but by signing for Celtic at any time (even a pre-nuptual) wouldn't have seen City get a penny from them

This is what it says (in part):

"Where a professional player, under the age of 24, has been offered a new contract by his club (subject to certain requirements that the offer must meet set out in Rule 64.3 of the Football League Rules) and he rejects that offer in order to take up the opportunity to sign for another club, compensation will be payable."

"In the majority of cases, clubs will reach mutual agreement on a compensation fee. However, in others the two clubs’ valuations will differ, sometimes significantly, and the matter will need to be settled through an arbitration process."

"That process is operated by the Professional Football Compensation Committee (PFCC). The PFCC is incorporated under the rules of both The Football League and Premier League, and forms part of the collective bargaining agreement with the Professional Footballers’ Association. The PFCC comprises of an independent Chairman, appointees from The Football League and Premier League (as appropriate), an appointee of The Professional Footballers’ Association and an appointee of the League Managers’ Association."

http://fullcontactlaw.co.uk/2016/11/com ... 4-mystery/

Joe's contract was up and he was free to move employers like anyone else would be. He didn't owe City anything and it is nonsense to even suggest he was remotely 'engineering' a move. If you want examples of that then try Diego Costa, Philippe Coutinho or Virgil van Dijk who are all under contract but believe they have the right to a transfer when they choose.

Can Rangers sign him on a pre contract in January?

Yes they will owe us compo tho any club that signs him will have to

Celtic didn't for Ledley so not sure they will have to.

Initially, I wasn't sure if the Joe Ledley 'thing' was that he signed for Celtic on a specific date to avoid that payment being due but a little research appears to show that the 'Training Compensation' agreement is between Premier League and EFL clubs only

That's not to say Joe didn't 'engineer' his move to avoid any kind of compensation being paid in order maximise his own earning potential but by signing for Celtic at any time (even a pre-nuptual) wouldn't have seen City get a penny from them

This is what it says (in part):

"Where a professional player, under the age of 24, has been offered a new contract by his club (subject to certain requirements that the offer must meet set out in Rule 64.3 of the Football League Rules) and he rejects that offer in order to take up the opportunity to sign for another club, compensation will be payable."

"In the majority of cases, clubs will reach mutual agreement on a compensation fee. However, in others the two clubs’ valuations will differ, sometimes significantly, and the matter will need to be settled through an arbitration process."

"That process is operated by the Professional Football Compensation Committee (PFCC). The PFCC is incorporated under the rules of both The Football League and Premier League, and forms part of the collective bargaining agreement with the Professional Footballers’ Association. The PFCC comprises of an independent Chairman, appointees from The Football League and Premier League (as appropriate), an appointee of The Professional Footballers’ Association and an appointee of the League Managers’ Association."

http://fullcontactlaw.co.uk/2016/11/com ... 4-mystery/

Joe's contract was up and he was free to move employers like anyone else would be. He didn't owe City anything and it is nonsense to even suggest he was remotely 'engineering' a move. If you want examples of that then try Diego Costa, Philippe Coutinho or Virgil van Dijk who are all under contract but believe they have the right to a transfer when they choose.

It bothers me the way our fans slate Ledley for leaving to Celtic. Ridsdale made a right mug of Ledley. He was our best player on a relatively poor wage and they brought in Fowler, JFH and Sinclair on top wages. There was no talk of a new contract until he was close to the end of his other contract.

We (management) treated him badly and deserved to lose him for free. Why would he stay?

This would not happen under Warnock.