You Cant Blame Him

£7.2 million over 4 years of which there was a £1million signing on fee included. This is how much Joe Ledley will earn minimum from his first 4 years at Celtic.

Joe spent 14 years from the age of 9 at our club and spent near on 6 years in the 1st team making 226 appearences, captaining the side at the age of 21, scoring the only goal of the FA Cup Semi-Final, winning 32 international caps along the way were just some of the highlights this Fairwater lad achieved.

Quite truthfully I was amazed at the level of abuse Joe got from a section of our support when in truth the reason Joe left was our own clubs doing. Our previous Chairman lied regarding Joe, keeping DJ in the dark at the same time, then when the club had the opportunity to cash in on Joe incompetence by staff at our club cost us dearly, so I dont blame Joe one bit for looking after number 1 and when you consider what little action there has been in the last month regarding transfers then can you ?

You're right Carl, can't blame the guy, but he didn't look interested yesterday though.

spot on Carl...

carl iv always supported joe and still do i wish him nothing but success.and no one in their right mind would have turned that sort of money down for some of our fans to turn on the lad is beyond belief.GOOD LUCK JOE

£7.2 million over 4 years of which there was a £1million signing on fee included. This is how much Joe Ledley will earn minimum from his first 4 years at Celtic.

Joe spent 14 years from the age of 9 at our club and spent near on 6 years in the 1st team making 226 appearences, captaining the side at the age of 21, scoring the only goal of the FA Cup Semi-Final, winning 32 international caps along the way were just some of the highlights this Fairwater lad achieved.

Quite truthfully I was amazed at the level of abuse Joe got from a section of our support when in truth the reason Joe left was our own clubs doing. Our previous Chairman lied regarding Joe, keeping DJ in the dark at the same time, then when the club had the opportunity to cash in on Joe incompetence by staff at our club cost us dearly, so I dont blame Joe one bit for looking after number 1 and when you consider what little action there has been in the last month regarding transfers then can you ?

Ridsdale cetainyl missed opportunities to cash in on Joe and although many were against him selling him, just after he'd sold a couple of our other top players (Ramsey and loovens). at the end of the day it was a big mistake.

But what is the 'incompetence' you mention which cost us ?

Jones seems to say that no-one offerred a fee - only 2 players from Stoke who they didn't want and we couldn't afford the wages for.

Joe Ledley was on around £5k p/w whilst he was with us. For that we got over 250 appearances and 2 goals at Wembley.

When you consider the wages of other players (& Chairman) who earned a lot more and gave a lot less back, it is hard to understand why JL was expected to do what was best for the club before what was best for himself.

I totally agree Carl and I said it the minute Joe Left, Who Could Blame him for going.

Agree. Ridsdale messed it up.

Agree. Ridsdale messed it up.

WITHOUT A DOUBT.

Ledley's decision to go, no one else influenced it. Funny your all quick to blame ridsdale, even though ledley pleaded with him to leave when stoke came in with 6 mil. Funny you say about lack of transfers one of the motives for Ledley leaving, however, he left before we all began to make a fuss out of this lack of transfer movement, so hence Ledley must be a psychic. Him and his agent saw Ridsdale as an easy target to put blame towards, because of the shit he received from the likes of you already. Therefore, he knew the fans would already side with him and blame Ridsdale, who just in argument did a good job for this club, whereas Sam Hammam promised things, Ridsdale actually fuliflled them, i.e the stadium.

Wonder if he will come back on loan come January when Celtic are out of Europe and start shopping him around to other clubs? They may suddenly decide he's a luxury they can't afford. Mind you, on those wage there won't be many Championship teams who can afford his wages,(Premiership teams obviously aren't interested).

Good player that Joe is, I can't help thinking that Celtic are paying him more than he is worth.

Can't blame him for going for that money. Bet his agent can't believe his luck! 15 (or is it 20)% of£7.2 m!

Ledley's decision to go, no one else influenced it. Funny your all quick to blame ridsdale, even though ledley pleaded with him to leave when stoke came in with 6 mil. Funny you say about lack of transfers one of the motives for Ledley leaving, however, he left before we all began to make a fuss out of this lack of transfer movement, so hence Ledley must be a psychic. Him and his agent saw Ridsdale as an easy target to put blame towards, because of the shit he received from the likes of you already. Therefore, he knew the fans would already side with him and blame Ridsdale, who just in argument did a good job for this club, whereas Sam Hammam promised things, Ridsdale actually fuliflled them, i.e the stadium.

What a load of bollocks you speak, I have not said that one of Joes motives was the lack of transfer activity, as for fans siding with him I believe Joe was quite upset at the amount of flak he took for going to Celtic.

As regards Sam/Ridsdale you are obviously clueless and very naive.

Ledley's decision to go, no one else influenced it. Funny your all quick to blame ridsdale, even though ledley pleaded with him to leave when stoke came in with 6 mil. Funny you say about lack of transfers one of the motives for Ledley leaving, however, he left before we all began to make a fuss out of this lack of transfer movement, so hence Ledley must be a psychic. Him and his agent saw Ridsdale as an easy target to put blame towards, because of the shit he received from the likes of you already. Therefore, he knew the fans would already side with him and blame Ridsdale, who just in argument did a good job for this club, whereas Sam Hammam promised things, Ridsdale actually fuliflled them, i.e the stadium.

100% Know its The Riddles Fault.

can we nick paddy mccourt from celtic?,hes top notch

you the hell is Bluebirdsboy16...what a load of bollocks........he must be taking the piss

How much of the £28k is bonus related.
He and rest of the Celtic team will have to play out of their skins to get
a champion’s league bonus.

Can't blame him but he will certainly have a MASSIVE season in SPL and a MASSIVE knockout in Europe.

In what way did the current board mess up? I assume you mean Stoke and I remember you saying gethin Jenkins, borley and even the riddler tried with Stoke.... If none of them could get a deal maybe a deal could not be done with them.

Riddler messed up but Joe has ruined his career IMO but he has money I guess.

From my understanding Joe had no choice but to go to Celtic.

1. If Stoke took on Joe we would have got compensation and the figure quotes was £3 million.
2. Stoke did not want to pay this so offered us 2 of their players. DJ was not interested.

So going on that Joe had no choice but to move to Celtic. Tbh I'm surprised Celtic offered him so much if the Stoke move was dead in the water.

Why do you continue your blatent lies around the subject of Ledley leaving us for Celtic?

It amazes me how many of you now say that we should have sold him to Stoke back in August 2008. It was the last day of the transfer window, we'd already sold Ramsey and Loovens - can you imagine the uproar? Hindsight is a wonderful thing but most of you here need to think back to August 31st 2008 and ask yourselves - honestly - did you want the club to sell Ledley to Stoke? No you didn't.

Ever since, Ledley has had us over a barrel. He refused to sign a new contract and ran it down, just as his agent advised. Good on his agent, he did what was right for his client and, more pertinently, for himself. Financially, both are better off. Football wise, Ledley probably isn't better off, but only time will tell.

Why do you persist in blaming Ridsdale,Jenkins, Borley et al? I'm amazed that the poor tea lady isn't implicated as well!!

We had no offers post August 2008 for Ledley. Stoke offered players whom Jones did not want. No other premiership club made an offer for the player. Celtic made him the best offer, financially so it was "Hobsons Choice" for Ledley. End of.

So,where's this "incompetance by staff" that you refer to Carl?

Don't tell me that your hero Hammam would have kept him at our club, or got a fee for him!! The man who quickly sold our - not his - "crown jewels" towards the end of his disasterous tenure of our club!!!!

But Claude did not Ledley blame the Riddler?

For what?

Not offering him a contract.

Not offering him a contract.

Correct Ian and of course its Our Clubs own fault for loosing out on any money we may have had.
I know the full story, Claude on this Subject you are way off and dont know the Facts I do.

Then tell us.

You often state that you know the truth about certain matters relating to CCFC.

If you do, then tell us man.

Then tell us.

You often state that you know the truth about certain matters relating to CCFC.

If you do, then tell us man.

Jenkins took over from Steve Borley on Players Contracts after a Terrible Argument.
Jenkins then tries to negotiate with Stoke, but with No experience, came unstuck, got Nick The Sec to Ring Borley in Majorca for help, Borley then tried his best with Stoke, to No Avail.
The Riddler was Called in as he is being paid a Wage to do this kind of Job, He spoke to Stoke, but then certain Directors wanted The Riddler not to be involved so he was removed lol, in the mean time Ledleys Agent was touting Ledley around.
Dave Jones then took over, Stoke were now saying what a Joke Our Club was to Deal with and things by now had gone backwards/stale, in the mean time Celtic had now come in.
There you are a short brief of what happened.

Then tell us.

You often state that you know the truth about certain matters relating to CCFC.

If you do, then tell us man.

Jenkins took over from Steve Borley on Players Contracts after a Terrible Argument.
Jenkins then tries to negotiate with Stoke, but with No experience, came unstuck, got Nick The Sec to Ring Borley in Majorca for help, Borley then tried his best with Stoke, to No Avail.
The Riddler was Called in as he is being paid a Wage to do this kind of Job, He spoke to Stoke, but then certain Directors wanted The Riddler not to be involved so he was removed lol, in the mean time Ledleys Agent was touting Ledley around.
Dave Jones then took over, Stoke were now saying what a Joke Our Club was to Deal with and things by now had gone backwards/stale, in the mean time Celtic had now come in.
There you are a short brief of what happened.

In short, incompetence.

Wonder if he will come back on loan come January when Celtic are out of Europe and start shopping him around to other clubs? They may suddenly decide he's a luxury they can't afford. Mind you, on those wage there won't be many Championship teams who can afford his wages,(Premiership teams obviously aren't interested).

Good player that Joe is, I can't help thinking that Celtic are paying him more than he is worth.

Can't blame him for going for that money. Bet his agent can't believe his luck! 15 (or is it 20)% of£7.2 m!

15 or 20% your having a laff! The legal maximum is 5%. More than likely paid by Celtic anyway to the Agency and not taken from the player himself.

Jenkins took over from Steve Borley on Players Contracts after a Terrible Argument.
Jenkins then tries to negotiate with Stoke, but with No experience, came unstuck, got Nick The Sec to Ring Borley in Majorca for help, Borley then tried his best with Stoke, to No Avail.
The Riddler was Called in as he is being paid a Wage to do this kind of Job, He spoke to Stoke, but then certain Directors wanted The Riddler not to be involved so he was removed lol, in the mean time Ledleys Agent was touting Ledley around.
Dave Jones then took over, Stoke were now saying what a Joke Our Club was to Deal with and things by now had gone backwards/stale, in the mean time Celtic had now come in.
There you are a short brief of what happened.

In short, incompetence.




No chance that Stoke were saying our club was a joke because they couldn't get their way ? i.e they wanted us to promise not to go to tribunal

Celtic made Ledley a better offer as well. The Stoke chairman's own words were that he couldn't compete with these wages.

Jones says all they offerred was 2 players.

So, how has the club lost out in these negotiations.

To me it looks like the damage was done months ago.

I still think that he made the wrong move though, Celtic may not even get Champions League football yet. The standard of football in the SPL is not that much better than the Championship in my opinion and feel he could have got a much better move. Not too bothered about not getting any money, we could have done with it but oh well its too late now but as a Welsh fan it would have been good to see another player in the Premier League and feel he went for money reasons. I liked Joe too, always knew he would have to leave Cardiff at some point and hoped to see him develop into a great player, just like we have with ramsey and probably matthews. I think its a move he may live to regret.