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I do wonder whether football's too expensive for spectators

Sat Aug 26, 2017 7:55 am

What are your opinions?


I am aware that this topic has been discussed many times previously however considering football fans are from every type of background and class (if the word class exists these days).

If you wanted to attend every single match During a season many people would perhaps be priced out of it.

Other entertainments could be a lot more expensive such as a theatre trip, international rugby, concert etc however you tend just to do these as a one off (perhaps once or twice a year if that - more if your lucky). When your a fan of a club you probably want to go to as many games as you can, buy merchandise, programmes etc.

Don't get me wrong I think the prices this season are very competitive and make it affordable for many including families.

I sit in the grandstand and that's my choice so I knew my ST would cost more than other areas of the ground but I still feel £519 is too much, plus many away trips. I probably spend about £1200 year (ST, away ticks and travel) or more which is a lot less than some people. Could football clubs make it any cheaper? Perhaps £18 max for a ticket? And then less depending on where you sit in the ground and age category etc. If I knew I could do all home and away trips for £850 but still sit where I sit in the grandstand, I would do the lot.

Re: I do wonder whether football's too expensive for spectat

Sat Aug 26, 2017 8:30 am

Agree it is overpriced especially when you add up T.V. Money sponsorship and corporate hospitality that Premiership and many Championship sides receive. I don't think what they make from ticket sales to your average fan is that important anymore.

That said a few years ago we failed to sell out when we gave away free tickets for the Derby game and still had a decent chance of the playoffs. I think people chose to do something else

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Sat Aug 26, 2017 10:03 am

I think it is expensive but you can't blame a club if people are willing to pay it. The big clubs sell out every week and can charge what they want knowing they will get it.

I think our club have priced their season tickets incorrectly if they want to maximise sales. Maybe this is just the most cost effective way to sell them considering steward charges etc. I think looking at season ticket sales and the people I've spoken to who don't have season tickets the standard price just isn't enough to tempt them back.

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Sat Aug 26, 2017 10:16 am

I'm not a season ticket holder but fancied the game today, not willing to pay £26 mind, so I'll be watching the updates via the B365 app

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Sat Aug 26, 2017 10:41 am

Iv said it before, South Wales is a poor area with poor wages in the main and whilst season ticket prices are good, those who want to go on the odd occasion yeah it is pricey, £28 quid in the Ninian Stand today with the booking fee, a lot of lads will think f**k that and sit in the pub and have another 7 pints watching a few live games and to he fair thats their choice

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Sat Aug 26, 2017 10:49 am

Football won't sort it's financial problems out until player wages and agent fees are tackled, they are the proverbial 'elephants in the room' when it comes to making football affordable for the average working class supporter.

CCFC had a wage bill of £36m last year and paid out close to a £1m in agent fees (if the memory serves me right) and made an operating loss of £12m, so on that basis it is hard to see how they cannot maximise their income streams. Making football affordable must be way down on their list of priorities as is it probably is at nearly every football club.

Re: I do wonder whether football's too expensive for spectat

Sat Aug 26, 2017 10:52 am

I think the price is very reasonable. I don't understand why people moan about the price then also moan that the.club won't buy players. If you do the maths £400 (hypothetical average cost for a season ticket) times 15k supporters equals £6 million pounds / year. Wages for 25 players at say £10k per week ( again a hypothetical average) equals £12.5 million. You can't have your cake and eat it. Kids prices are great and that's what we want for the future. If anything, if we want to be successful prices should go up. :thumbright:

Re: I do wonder whether football's too expensive for spectat

Sat Aug 26, 2017 10:58 am

RV Casual wrote:Iv said it before, South Wales is a poor area with poor wages in the main and whilst season ticket prices are good, those who want to go on the odd occasion yeah it is pricey, £28 quid in the Ninian Stand today with the booking fee, a lot of lads will think f**k that and sit in the pub and have another 7 pints watching a few live games and to he fair thats their choice


£28 is close to a days wages (after tax & NI) for a lot of people. A season ticket works out at around £14 per game so you do wonder why there isn't some room for manoeuvre to bring the prices for match day tickets down?

Mind you the price is only one thing putting off walk up crowds as queueing up at the ticket office is a pain and will never replace the old system of 'paying at the turnstiles' like they did in the good old days :old:

Re: I do wonder whether football's too expensive for spectat

Sat Aug 26, 2017 11:06 am

Yes, simple as that. As stated Wales is a poor region. People assume also that a day out at th city is only the tickets, but other things also add up e.g. Transport. For example , living in port talbot let's say I got two kids, a good day out would probably be going to see Lido or port talbot play, couple of pints. Food etc and would probably cost half of what a day out at the city would be, football is expensive and with the Neymar deal going through we will now start seeing clubs throwing around stupid money which will soon be the norm, to offset the transfers ticket prices are going to sky rocket.

Personally if I was tan now, and we got promoted I would offer match day tickets £10 adult £5 child, sounds silly but with Tv money the club could afford it. It would sell out the stadium each week and would put a strangle on Swansea.

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Sat Aug 26, 2017 11:09 am

bluebird04 wrote:Yes, simple as that. As stated Wales is a poor region. People assume also that a day out at th city is only the tickets, but other things also add up e.g. Transport. For example , living in port talbot let's say I got two kids, a good day out would probably be going to see Lido or port talbot play, couple of pints. Food etc and would probably cost half of what a day out at the city would be, football is expensive and with the Neymar deal going through we will now start seeing clubs throwing around stupid money which will soon be the norm, to offset the transfers ticket prices are going to sky rocket.

Personally if I was tan now, and we got promoted I would offer match day tickets £10 adult £5 child, sounds silly but with Tv money the club could afford it. It would sell out the stadium each week and would put a strangle on Swansea.


As we know we'll sell out in the PL whatever we do, so I can't see the club rushing to offer cheap tickets when it can make thousands charging normal price.

Re: I do wonder whether football's too expensive for spectat

Sat Aug 26, 2017 11:09 am

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
RV Casual wrote:Iv said it before, South Wales is a poor area with poor wages in the main and whilst season ticket prices are good, those who want to go on the odd occasion yeah it is pricey, £28 quid in the Ninian Stand today with the booking fee, a lot of lads will think f**k that and sit in the pub and have another 7 pints watching a few live games and to he fair thats their choice


£28 is close to a days wages (after tax & NI) for a lot of people. A season ticket works out at around £14 per game so you do wonder why there isn't some room for manoeuvre to bring the prices for match day tickets down?

Mind you the price is only one thing putting off walk up crowds as queueing up at the ticket office is a pain and will never replace the old system of 'paying at the turnstiles' like they did in the good old days :old:



i dont get the gold silver bronze..or its 2/4 quid more today than it was yesterday..or the queues.
it used to be 2 different turnstyles one for adults the other for concesions..and it cost exactly the same to watch Man Utd and Villa as it did York and Orient...progress for you

Re: I do wonder whether football's too expensive for spectat

Sat Aug 26, 2017 11:18 am

Still a good number of Zone 4 tickets - the lower part of the Ninian still available. They're just £ 22 walk up for today. I don't understand why the corner of the Ninian / Canton blocks have been placed in a higher category this year as they're pretty much the worst seats down there.

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Sat Aug 26, 2017 11:38 am

epping blue wrote:Still a good number of Zone 4 tickets - the lower part of the Ninian still available. They're just £ 22 walk up for today. I don't understand why the corner of the Ninian / Canton blocks have been placed in a higher category this year as they're pretty much the worst seats down there.



they have been since the stadium opened...the reason is that there is a rule that you can only charge away fans what you charge your home fans in a similar part of the ground.

Re: I do wonder whether football's too expensive for spectat

Sat Aug 26, 2017 12:00 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
RV Casual wrote:Iv said it before, South Wales is a poor area with poor wages in the main and whilst season ticket prices are good, those who want to go on the odd occasion yeah it is pricey, £28 quid in the Ninian Stand today with the booking fee, a lot of lads will think f**k that and sit in the pub and have another 7 pints watching a few live games and to he fair thats their choice


£28 is close to a days wages (after tax & NI) for a lot of people. A season ticket works out at around £14 per game so you do wonder why there isn't some room for manoeuvre to bring the prices for match day tickets down?

Mind you the price is only one thing putting off walk up crowds as queueing up at the ticket office is a pain and will never replace the old system of 'paying at the turnstiles' like they did in the good old days :old:


I agree Tony, I think a ST in the Ninian works out at £16 a game si theres no need for it to be an extra £10 on the day plus another £2 if you book online or over the phone. I know a few of my group who went to the Villa game and are coming to Fulham but this one is getting sat out as they are going Wales gane aswell so something has to give.

Also correct on the wages thing, even companys like Lloyds etc pay peanuts to their average staff, not everyone can have a top job and I know through friends that work there that they take on and pay 7.20 an hour through agencys and your taking home less than 1k a month. Same where I work now, we take on temps pay them 7.20 an hour or 14,500k a year, the average rent/mortgage got to be 5/600 a month before bills so theres not going to be much money left for things like Football. Priveledged I can afford it myself but I can see the otherside aswell

Re: I do wonder whether football's too expensive for spectat

Sat Aug 26, 2017 12:02 pm

dogfound wrote:
epping blue wrote:Still a good number of Zone 4 tickets - the lower part of the Ninian still available. They're just £ 22 walk up for today. I don't understand why the corner of the Ninian / Canton blocks have been placed in a higher category this year as they're pretty much the worst seats down there.



they have been since the stadium opened...the reason is that there is a rule that you can only charge away fans what you charge your home fans in a similar part of the ground.



I hadn't noticed it before but knew the rule so it makes sense.

Re: I do wonder whether football's too expensive for spectat

Sat Aug 26, 2017 12:32 pm

It's over priced quite simply!

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Sat Aug 26, 2017 1:44 pm

The modern day football fan in prem are mugs. It never happens in any other league only in rip off Britain. Even our club should be cheaper, 150 adult and 50 child family stand.

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Sat Aug 26, 2017 5:53 pm

I'm not one to moan about tickets prices or attendances, makes of difference to me I'll pay whatever as long as it's reasonable, I think of it as I'm putting money into the club as well as watching the football, the thing I will moan about is the price on the lager ! £4:30 a pint is only getting me 4 pints for 20 notes scandalous.

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Sat Aug 26, 2017 6:22 pm

You can't do football on the cheap - I can't understand how there isn't an away season ticket or even a season ticket which includes x amount of away games.

In fact when you think about it a lot of clubs will have a season ticket that includes preseason friendlies and cup games up to a certain round - so really are we getting the best deal?

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Sat Aug 26, 2017 6:56 pm

Blue_Barber wrote:You can't do football on the cheap - I can't understand how there isn't an away season ticket or even a season ticket which includes x amount of away games.

In fact when you think about it a lot of clubs will have a season ticket that includes preseason friendlies and cup games up to a certain round - so really are we getting the best deal?



because our club get the revenue from home games.and the home club get the ticket revenue when we play them away./ and i think most clubs that include a couple of cup games are top 6 prem clubs...clubs in our position arnt even sure they will get 1 home cup game..?

Re: I do wonder whether football's too expensive for spectat

Mon Aug 28, 2017 6:46 pm

RV Casual wrote:Iv said it before, South Wales is a poor area with poor wages in the main and whilst season ticket prices are good, those who want to go on the odd occasion yeah it is pricey, £28 quid in the Ninian Stand today with the booking fee, a lot of lads will think f**k that and sit in the pub and have another 7 pints watching a few live games and to he fair thats their choice


Spot on

Re: I do wonder whether football's too expensive for spectat

Mon Aug 28, 2017 8:38 pm

RV Casual wrote:Iv said it before, South Wales is a poor area with poor wages in the main and whilst season ticket prices are good, those who want to go on the odd occasion yeah it is pricey, £28 quid in the Ninian Stand today with the booking fee, a lot of lads will think f**k that and sit in the pub and have another 7 pints watching a few live games and to he fair thats their choice



generally i think football across the board is too expensive but dont buy into the poor area bit regarding ourselves..i think our fan base is slowly but surely recovering from decades of no investment, lower leagues football and hooliganism.not so much finance. our attendances were better when the cost was higher {prem year and following season } is truth
anyway loads of people travel from South Wales to watch prem clubs every week costing double our prices plus travel { was in leigh delamare for half an hour yesterday morning during that time i must have seen a hundred welsh spurs come and go }
and the semi against portugal saw thousands and thousands finding 295 euros for a ticket..

Re: I do wonder whether football's too expensive for spectat

Mon Aug 28, 2017 9:59 pm

I saw a picture on Facebook earlier today showing the turnstiles at Stamford Bridge in the 80's. The price to get in was £2

I read somewhere recently that the cost of watching football has increased far, far greater than the price of inflation.

Many young kids have been priced out of it. I was lucky, I grew up in an era when I was allowed to go to games on my own, even at the age of 11. It was about 25p to get in. I think these days that many kids will not go to games unless their parents like going and want to take them.

It's the way of the world and we can't change it. Many people at the lower end of the scale have been priced out of it, which is why I disagreed with people who claim away fans should be charged what the home fans had been charged in the reverse fixture.

I went to Reading the other week and they still do their £20 deal where they charge £20 if you allow their fans to be charged the same in the reverse fixture. Another good thing was that people under 25 were only charged a tenner, which I thought was a great incentive.

Being a grumpy old man, I prefer most things about watching football in the 70s & 80s compared to today. I would regularly go away on the Saturday and away again on the Wednesday - Kids today could not possibly afford to do this.