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Sun Jul 02, 2017 7:51 pm
Aston Villa have signed former Chelsea and England captain John Terry.
The 36-year-old defender, whose contract at Stamford Bridge expired on 30 June, has signed a one-year deal with the Championship club.
UPDATED
Championship club Aston Villa are set to confirm the signing of John Terry on Monday, according to the Telegraph.
03/07/17
The paper claims the former England and Chelsea captain has agreed an initial 12-month deal worth a basic £60,000 a week with bonuses that could take his overall package to more than £4m a year.
Terry received contract proposals from clubs including Galatasaray, West Brom and Swansea but has opted to join Steve Bruce's side, says Sunday's report.
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Sun Jul 02, 2017 8:10 pm
Looking forward to this being confirmed and an early chance to see him against City.
It will probably be a bit like when Bobby Moore went to Fulham, although JT will be more of a pantomime villain.
It will be interesting to see Big Ken charging at him and hopefully a nippy forward too.
I'm sure his positional sense will be ok, but he will be a good distraction for a disjointed Villa side.
Sun Jul 02, 2017 9:47 pm
Villa really are assembling a huge squad of overpaid has beens and wannabes.
I dread to think what their wage bill is for such mediocrity!!!
Mon Jul 03, 2017 12:58 pm
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Mon Jul 03, 2017 1:01 pm
Is he really worth it????
Mon Jul 03, 2017 1:27 pm
cant wait to see him getting embaressed during the season,shame we play them second game means he will stillbe full of energy by the time christmas comes he'll be fuked
Mon Jul 03, 2017 2:00 pm
lyndipops wrote:Is he really worth it????

No
Mon Jul 03, 2017 2:36 pm
as long as it's not us paying that kind of money.
Mon Jul 03, 2017 2:54 pm
Great dirty dirty John he won't stay on pitches to long - wonder who'll be made surplus to requirements at Villa - wouldn't mind Elphnick
Mon Jul 03, 2017 3:43 pm
Blue_Barber wrote:Great dirty dirty John he won't stay on pitches to long - wonder who'll be made surplus to requirements at Villa - wouldn't mind Elphnick
get rid of Morrison & buy Chester....
Mon Jul 03, 2017 4:42 pm
CaerphillyBluebird15 wrote:Blue_Barber wrote:Great dirty dirty John he won't stay on pitches to long - wonder who'll be made surplus to requirements at Villa - wouldn't mind Elphnick
get rid of Morrison & buy Chester....

Oh yeh Chester is there! And Baker got a lot of CBs in that team
Mon Jul 03, 2017 7:07 pm
oohahhPaulMillar wrote:Villa really are assembling a huge squad of overpaid has beens and wannabes.
I dread to think what their wage bill is for such mediocrity!!!
The wage bill will be high, no doubt about it. I think a back 4 of Hutton, Terry, Chester & Taylor is fine (although now Terry is here, we may have 3 central defenders in a 3-5-2), a midfield including Lansbury & Hourihane is good and a strike force of Kodjia & Hogan are also good. I wouldn't class any of those as mediocre. Then there is everybodies favourite, Grealish, Adomah, and several others who are serious contenders for starting places. The only real disapointments have been Elphick, McCormack & Tishibola who cost around "20 million between them. Tishibola has age on his side and there is a good player in there. McCormack, we are probably stuck with, given our outlay and what we are likely to get back in a sale.
For me, the problem is Bruce, not the players. He is very negative and relies on a bit of quality in the final third to nick a goal. I think that the Championship has moved on in the very short period that he's been managing and his methods are now dated. Last season, Villa created very little in the way of chances - Hogan may as well not have been on the pitch and it was only the individual brilliance of Kodjia that got us a few goals (and points). If we carry on where we left off, Bruce could well be the first managerial casualty.
Mon Jul 03, 2017 7:09 pm
Blue_Barber wrote:Great dirty dirty John he won't stay on pitches to long - wonder who'll be made surplus to requirements at Villa - wouldn't mind Elphnick
From what I saw of Ephick last season mate, I'd recommend you steer well clear. He is prone to mistakes and cost us several goals as well as made the defence look very shaky. Villa are desperate to offload and he seems desperate to move but I'm sure there are better central defenders out there.
Mon Jul 03, 2017 7:11 pm
I'll have Ephnick
What's funny is Bruce has said it's the biggest signing of his managerial career.
Sums it up really
Mon Jul 03, 2017 7:12 pm
I think if you sign a player like that, it's almost worth the gamble - especially as they have a good squad as it is.
They don't need to bring in much else as they already have a good enough team to challenge for the top two.
Obviously if they don't go up, it may cost them - but Derby have been spending millions for years and never seem to get punished.
If they go up, then it's a transfer worth making.
Mon Jul 03, 2017 7:13 pm
lyndipops wrote:Is he really worth it????

If Villa go up then the answer will be yes.
You'd probably have to pay £1million loan fee for someone like that, plus wages so the overall "overpayment" isn't that great.
I'm personally happy with the signing.
Mon Jul 03, 2017 7:20 pm
Half the people on here would complain that Ronaldo was past it if he signed for us so they probably think that Terry should be collecting his pension by now.
Mon Jul 03, 2017 7:40 pm
We as a club have wasted hundreds of thousands maybe even millions of pounds on over the hill players over the last decade or so.
It's a real gamble by Villa - sometimes they come off but more often they don't.
He has never played football at a level he will be playing this season. It will take him quite a while to get used to the way the game is played in the Championship which let's be honest, is a lot different from what he's been used to in his career so far. I wonder how he'll cope with 46 games of blood and guts when he's hardly played for a couple of seasons.
And he's such a tart not wanting to play against his beloved Chelsea! How pathetic! Even Frank Lampard played against Chelsea after he moved clubs. He could have joined another Premier League club and been strategically "injured" when the games against Chelsea came around but I think he realised that he wasn't good enough any longer to play a full season as first choice for a Premier League team.
Still, he'll feel right at home with that other tart Grealish playing in the same team!
Mon Jul 03, 2017 7:58 pm
Listening to the interview today, he could have earned a lot more if he'd gone to prem club or abroad. This is a good sign as his decision was for footballing reasons. There is a big difference between playing for Man City against CFC than there is playing for the Swanseas or WBAs of this world.
The football isn't that different - It's just that the strikers aren't as good in the Championship. I'd expect to be looking at around 30 games out of him and subbing him regularly as well - Especially in games we are losing and we need to chase the game.
Last season, Villa conceded several last minute/last few minutes goals - With Terry on the pitch, I'd be more confident of seeing slender leads out.
Mon Jul 03, 2017 8:01 pm
He was possibly the greatest defender to ever play in the Premier League.
This situation reminds me a lot of Rio Ferdinand. Fantastic career but failed when he moved to QPR. I can see this happening to JT.
Will be nice to give the tw*t some abuse this upcoming season, though!
Mon Jul 03, 2017 8:14 pm
AV3 wrote:Listening to the interview today, he could have earned a lot more if he'd gone to prem club or abroad. This is a good sign as his decision was for footballing reasons. There is a big difference between playing for Man City against CFC than there is playing for the Swanseas or WBAs of this world.
The football isn't that different - It's just that the strikers aren't as good in the Championship. I'd expect to be looking at around 30 games out of him and subbing him regularly as well - Especially in games we are losing and we need to chase the game.
Last season, Villa conceded several last minute/last few minutes goals - With Terry on the pitch, I'd be more confident of seeing slender leads out.
I'm sure he doesn't need the money so that would not have been an issue for him, although many players would indeed have moved to wherever the money was.
Not sure why there is a difference between playing against Chelsea for Man City as opposed to Swansea or WBA? Is it because he's scared that playing against Chelsea for a "smaller" team would be a greater chance of being totally embarrassed?
I agree that the strikers aren't as good in the Championship but neither are his team-mates. His fellow defenders and midfielders will be of a lower standard also.
What he will give you is strong leadership and an excellent work ethic. It could work for you but it does feel as if it's a bit "all the eggs in one basket". The other names you mention are all potentially very good players but they really didn't impress last season when Villa underacheived massively.
You may be right - the manager may be a big part of the problem.
Mon Jul 03, 2017 8:46 pm
CaerphillyBluebird15 wrote:Blue_Barber wrote:Great dirty dirty John he won't stay on pitches to long - wonder who'll be made surplus to requirements at Villa - wouldn't mind Elphnick
get rid of Morrison & buy Chester....

My thoughts exactly
Mon Jul 03, 2017 9:30 pm
AV3 wrote:Listening to the interview today, he could have earned a lot more if he'd gone to prem club or abroad. This is a good sign as his decision was for footballing reasons. There is a big difference between playing for Man City against CFC than there is playing for the Swanseas or WBAs of this world.
The football isn't that different - It's just that the strikers aren't as good in the Championship. I'd expect to be looking at around 30 games out of him and subbing him regularly as well - Especially in games we are losing and we need to chase the game.
Last season, Villa conceded several last minute/last few minutes goals - With Terry on the pitch, I'd be more confident of seeing slender leads out.
Totally agree his decision was probably for footballing reasons...however the real footballing reason is that he probably realised he is just not good enough for the Premier League anymore. He has been no more than a bit part player for over 2 years at Chelsea.
I would imagine ever single championship striker is going to love raising their game to get the better of the great JT.
This could seriously backfire for Villa
Tue Jul 04, 2017 12:41 am
Gonna love watching big Ken up against him first home match, im sure Zohore will be up for taking him on with his pace and strength
Tue Jul 04, 2017 7:25 am
oohahhPaulMillar wrote:AV3 wrote:Listening to the interview today, he could have earned a lot more if he'd gone to prem club or abroad. This is a good sign as his decision was for footballing reasons. There is a big difference between playing for Man City against CFC than there is playing for the Swanseas or WBAs of this world.
The football isn't that different - It's just that the strikers aren't as good in the Championship. I'd expect to be looking at around 30 games out of him and subbing him regularly as well - Especially in games we are losing and we need to chase the game.
Last season, Villa conceded several last minute/last few minutes goals - With Terry on the pitch, I'd be more confident of seeing slender leads out.
Totally agree his decision was probably for footballing reasons...however the real footballing reason is that he probably realised he is just not good enough for the Premier League anymore. He has been no more than a bit part player for over 2 years at Chelsea.
I would imagine ever single championship striker is going to love raising their game to get the better of the great JT.
This could seriously backfire for Villa
Can't see it backfiring - The defence wasn't the problem last year and is good enough with or without Terry. If he doesn't perform, he won't start simple as. What is certain is that he will give the whole place a lift and his mere presence in the dressing room will inspire players.
Several PL managers were prepared to not only sign him but pay him ridiculous wages - They seem to think that he could still cut it in the PL. My feeling is that Villa were the perfect fit for Terry at this stage and maybe his experience of winning and challenging for honours made a Championship promotion battle more attractive that a relegation scrap? He also touched on his desire to learn from Steve Bruce and Steve Round (Villa Director of Football who has coached with Terry previously)
Tue Jul 04, 2017 8:42 am
AV3 wrote:oohahhPaulMillar wrote:AV3 wrote:Listening to the interview today, he could have earned a lot more if he'd gone to prem club or abroad. This is a good sign as his decision was for footballing reasons. There is a big difference between playing for Man City against CFC than there is playing for the Swanseas or WBAs of this world.
The football isn't that different - It's just that the strikers aren't as good in the Championship. I'd expect to be looking at around 30 games out of him and subbing him regularly as well - Especially in games we are losing and we need to chase the game.
Last season, Villa conceded several last minute/last few minutes goals - With Terry on the pitch, I'd be more confident of seeing slender leads out.
Totally agree his decision was probably for footballing reasons...however the real footballing reason is that he probably realised he is just not good enough for the Premier League anymore. He has been no more than a bit part player for over 2 years at Chelsea.
I would imagine ever single championship striker is going to love raising their game to get the better of the great JT.
This could seriously backfire for Villa
Can't see it backfiring - The defence wasn't the problem last year and is good enough with or without Terry. If he doesn't perform, he won't start simple as. What is certain is that he will give the whole place a lift and his mere presence in the dressing room will inspire players.
Several PL managers were prepared to not only sign him but pay him ridiculous wages - They seem to think that he could still cut it in the PL. My feeling is that Villa were the perfect fit for Terry at this stage and maybe his experience of winning and challenging for honours made a Championship promotion battle more attractive that a relegation scrap? He also touched on his desire to learn from Steve Bruce and Steve Round (Villa Director of Football who has coached with Terry previously)
Maybe he'll be facing a relegation scrap in the Championship?
Tue Jul 04, 2017 10:29 am
He has hardly played for the last two seasons and in his illustrious career played behind some of the best defensive midfielders the premier league has ever seen. I seem to remember the Villa midfield was a bit weak last season.
I am not sure the drama he brings (outside season ticket sales) is worth it.
Every team will play to his lack of mobility.I think it will be like the Alamo for Villa as every team will drop the ball 10m behind him and expect him to turn. He'll drop back 10m and open up the midfield. In saying that teams playing with one big man up front will struggle because he'll probably still be able to eat them alive and a lot of clubs still do that. In our favour Kenny is shit at that so I doubt we'll try that, but the lob (hoof) into space behind the full back and Terry will be meat and drink for him.
Villa are certainly ratcheting the pressure on themselves with this one. Will Bruce be big enough to "rest" (drop) him in darkest winter when the games are coming thick and fast.
Do they want Rickie Lambert as well
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