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privatise nhs

Sun Jun 18, 2017 12:42 am

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Privatisation of NHS continues as hospital contract awarded to Richard Branson

Re: privatise nhs

Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:22 am

I think it is only a matter of time before we have a two tier NHS system. There are those who pay into it via NI contributions through their pay and there are those who just take take take !!! and have never paid into it, but expect the same level of service. :banghead:

Re: privatise nhs

Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:10 am

Privatization happened years ago under labour ,they introuduce pfi and the 2006 act which opened up the nhs to private companies,welsh labour also gave the most private contracts out in wales over the last 20 years

Re: privatise nhs

Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:46 am

wez1927 wrote:Privatization happened years ago under labour ,they introuduce pfi and the 2006 act which opened up the nhs to private companies,welsh labour also gave the most private contracts out in wales over the last 20 years


Made me laugh when during the election Labour supporters would rant about the privatisation of the nhs then look utterly dumbfounded when you point out it was started under Labour.

Re: privatise nhs

Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:55 am

WelshPatriot wrote:
wez1927 wrote:Privatization happened years ago under labour ,they introuduce pfi and the 2006 act which opened up the nhs to private companies,welsh labour also gave the most private contracts out in wales over the last 20 years


Made me laugh when during the election Labour supporters would rant about the privatisation of the nhs then look utterly dumbfounded when you point out it was started under Labour.

I know they are just sheep

Re: privatise nhs

Sun Jun 18, 2017 8:11 am

It's not privatisation. Privatisation is getting rid of free at the point of delivery and making us all pay for services either as we go or via insurance. The NHS doesn't mean a state delivery of everything. It means free at the point of delivery. That's what's most important. Who delivers it is largely irrelevant to me. We have had private firms delivering NHS services for decades.

Re: privatise nhs

Sun Jun 18, 2017 8:15 am

welshrarebit wrote:It's not privatisation. Privatisation is getting rid of free at the point of delivery and making us all pay for services either as we go or via insurance. The NHS doesn't mean a state delivery of everything. It means free at the point of delivery. That's what's most important. Who delivers it is largely irrelevant to me. We have had private firms delivering NHS services for decades.
i agree but if you listen to labour voters tories are privatizing it

Re: privatise nhs

Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:32 am

wez1927 wrote:
welshrarebit wrote:It's not privatisation. Privatisation is getting rid of free at the point of delivery and making us all pay for services either as we go or via insurance. The NHS doesn't mean a state delivery of everything. It means free at the point of delivery. That's what's most important. Who delivers it is largely irrelevant to me. We have had private firms delivering NHS services for decades.
i agree but if you listen to labour voters tories are privatizing it




There is only 1 or 2 kidney dyalisis units that are completely run by nhs, all the others are privately run ! Been that way for long time :thumbup:

Re: privatise nhs

Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:36 am

splottbluebird48 wrote:More
Privatisation of NHS continues as hospital contract awarded to Richard Branson



not much thought process going on here

Re: privatise nhs

Sun Jun 18, 2017 10:27 am

pembroke allan wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
welshrarebit wrote:It's not privatisation. Privatisation is getting rid of free at the point of delivery and making us all pay for services either as we go or via insurance. The NHS doesn't mean a state delivery of everything. It means free at the point of delivery. That's what's most important. Who delivers it is largely irrelevant to me. We have had private firms delivering NHS services for decades.
i agree but if you listen to labour voters tories are privatizing it




There is only 1 or 2 kidney dyalisis units that are completely run by nhs, all the others are privately run ! Been that way for long time :thumbup:

They are still free tho ? Which is the main thing

Re: privatise nhs

Sun Jun 18, 2017 10:40 am

As long as treatment remains free at the point of contact I don't see what the problem is. The time to worry for me is when you are asked to pay out before treatment commences. If that ever happens, then I would agree with those who are complaining about privatisation. As long as I continue to get my treatment free at my local hospital, I am satisfied, and who owns the building or treatment facilities won't be something I spend a lot of time worrying about providing it all works.

Re: privatise nhs

Sun Jun 18, 2017 10:50 am

wez1927 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
welshrarebit wrote:It's not privatisation. Privatisation is getting rid of free at the point of delivery and making us all pay for services either as we go or via insurance. The NHS doesn't mean a state delivery of everything. It means free at the point of delivery. That's what's most important. Who delivers it is largely irrelevant to me. We have had private firms delivering NHS services for decades.
i agree but if you listen to labour voters tories are privatizing it




There is only 1 or 2 kidney dyalisis units that are completely run by nhs, all the others are privately run ! Been that way for long time :thumbup:

They are still free tho ? Which is the main thing



Well free to patients but someone is paying a private company to run units? :shock:

Re: privatise nhs

Sun Jun 18, 2017 11:55 am

Steve Zodiak wrote:As long as treatment remains free at the point of contact I don't see what the problem is. The time to worry for me is when you are asked to pay out before treatment commences. If that ever happens, then I would agree with those who are complaining about privatisation. As long as I continue to get my treatment free at my local hospital, I am satisfied, and who owns the building or treatment facilities won't be something I spend a lot of time worrying about providing it all works.



for years socialists have harped on about a 2 tier health care service..those on NHS and those who go private.. now all of a sudden private becomes 2nd rate. ??????????????????????