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' LONDON PROTESTS / TURN VIOLENT '

Fri Jun 16, 2017 4:24 pm

London fire: Fire protesters storm town hall

Protesters inside the building

BBC

Friday 16th June 2017

Between 50 and 60 protesters rushed into the council building

Protesters demanding help for those affected by the Grenfell Tower fire have stormed Kensington and Chelsea Town Hall with a list of demands.

Between 50 and 60 people broke off from a protest outside to go into the council building.

One member of the public said people made homeless needed help "right now".

Earlier, the Queen and Prince William visited a relief centre for the victims, while the missing could number around 70, the BBC understands.

Police say at least 30 people died as a result of the west London blaze and are likely to be among the 70. Three of those who died have been identfiedidentified.

There was nothing to suggest the fire was started deliberately, police said.

The town hall protest began at around 15:00 BST and scores have since joined it.

Protesters outside the Town HallGetty Images
Protesters outside the Town Hall had a list of demands for the council
At around 16:30 BST, people began to rush up the steps and make their way into the building.

One member of the public said people made homeless by the fire needed help "right now", adding: "Nobody knows what is happening. People are so angry. Those people shouldn't be sleeping in the street".

The organisers of the protest said council leaders would not come out to talk to them, but had released a statement, promising to rehouse as many people locally as they could and to provide funding for those affected.

However, they refused to give out the number of people who lived in the tower block - which was one of the protesters' demands, organisers said.

Public 'not satisfied' with answers

Mustafa Al Mansur, who organised the protest, said the council's response was "flimsy" with "no concrete answers".

"The people were not satisfied with the answers," he told BBC News. "The people were getting frustrated and they walked towards the building. They did not force themselves inside. They got inside the main building and were in the foyer, just speaking."

Police then arrived on the scene and formed a barricade, which Mr Al Mansur said led to "physical confrontation" between the two sides.

"We would like the chief executive of the council to make public commitments on what the council is going to do for the victims of this borough, and for all the other buildings in the borough that [could] stand the same fate at Grenfell Towers."
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Re: ' LONDON PROTESTS / TURN VIOLENT '

Fri Jun 16, 2017 4:25 pm

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Fri Jun 16, 2017 4:28 pm

Grenfell fire protesters storm town hall

Dozens of people appeared to push and shove each other outside the town hall as violence broke out


Dozens of demonstrators shout "we want justice", as Sky News understands the number of people feared dead is now around 70.
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Re: ' LONDON PROTESTS / TURN VIOLENT '

Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:46 pm

Looking at video there was mostly people in their 20s wearing scars ect ect hiding their faces looked like rent a Mob rather than genuine people?

Re: ' LONDON PROTESTS / TURN VIOLENT '

Fri Jun 16, 2017 7:22 pm

pembroke allan wrote:Looking at video there was mostly people in their 20s wearing scars ect ect hiding their faces looked like rent a Mob rather than genuine people?


That's odd as in the photo's above only one bloke has a face mask on? Maybe all the genuine people were photgraphed and the rent a mob were all captured on video?

Re: ' LONDON PROTESTS / TURN VIOLENT '

Fri Jun 16, 2017 8:23 pm

gj2550 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Looking at video there was mostly people in their 20s wearing scars ect ect hiding their faces looked like rent a Mob rather than genuine people?


That's odd as in the photo's above only one bloke has a face mask on? Maybe all the genuine people were photgraphed and the rent a mob were all captured on video?



I've only seen a video of this incident on BBC news not pics, and there are masked men in it Yes other people there aswell but suppose point is why are the men wearing masks? And it appeared to be orchestrated charging of the building? Just an observation from the video :old:

Re: ' LONDON PROTESTS / TURN VIOLENT '

Fri Jun 16, 2017 8:33 pm

Yet when people protested far more peacefully in Manchester about this years attacks an antifa mob turned up to have a pop at them.

Looking at the covered faces at today's protest, I bet antifa scum have turned out for it.

Re: ' LONDON PROTESTS / TURN VIOLENT '

Fri Jun 16, 2017 9:31 pm

murphy wrote:Yet when people protested far more peacefully in Manchester about this years attacks an antifa mob turned up to have a pop at them.

Looking at the covered faces at today's protest, I bet antifa scum have turned out for it.



A BBC reporter said there was anti Tory protesters in amongst crowd! People blaming may but it had nothing to do with her! :o

Re: ' LONDON PROTESTS / TURN VIOLENT '

Sat Jun 17, 2017 5:34 am

pembroke allan wrote:
murphy wrote:Yet when people protested far more peacefully in Manchester about this years attacks an antifa mob turned up to have a pop at them.

Looking at the covered faces at today's protest, I bet antifa scum have turned out for it.



A BBC reporter said there was anti Tory protesters in amongst crowd! People blaming may but it had nothing to do with her! :o



May is responsible for her party and for our government. When our GOVERNMENT reject amendments to laws to make housing FIT FOR HUMAN HABITATION you have to ask her serious questions. This is a clear result of austerity, cuts and gentrification. If you cannot see this, you are totally out of touch and your head is in cuckoo land. My bet would be that you read the Daily Mail or The Sun.

In addition, why is she asking for a public inquiry instead of an inquest?

And this is totally different to what happened in Manchester. This wasn't an act of violence but an act of negligence. Although, May also has serious questions to answer as to how that individual was so easily able to travel back into the UK.

Re: ' LONDON PROTESTS / TURN VIOLENT '

Sat Jun 17, 2017 5:55 am

I would also like to add that the reason this turned sour, was because the public officials left that building through the back doors instead of speaking to the protestors. These people clearly have something to hide. Otherwise, why are they hiding?

Re: ' LONDON PROTESTS / TURN VIOLENT '

Sat Jun 17, 2017 6:53 am

Im very shocked. Its completely out of character for people like that to riot. I cant understand it I really cant.

Anyway I see Lily Allan and the Beckhams have visited so surely they'll be opening their doors to the homeless otherwise what other reason would they have for being there in the spotlight?

:roll:

Re: ' LONDON PROTESTS / TURN VIOLENT '

Sat Jun 17, 2017 7:27 am

In 2013-14 Labour councillor allocated funds for a sprinkler system to be installed in the blocks. Boris & the Torys rejected it. To say this isn't political is being purely ignorant in my opinion. Politicians blocked amendments to laws and renovation that could have saved lives.

Re: ' LONDON PROTESTS / TURN VIOLENT '

Sat Jun 17, 2017 7:50 am

JimCP91 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
murphy wrote:Yet when people protested far more peacefully in Manchester about this years attacks an antifa mob turned up to have a pop at them.

Looking at the covered faces at today's protest, I bet antifa scum have turned out for it.



A BBC reporter said there was anti Tory protesters in amongst crowd! People blaming may but it had nothing to do with her! :o



May is responsible for her party and for our government. When our GOVERNMENT reject amendments to laws to make housing FIT FOR HUMAN HABITATION you have to ask her serious questions. This is a clear result of austerity, cuts and gentrification. If you cannot see this, you are totally out of touch and your head is in cuckoo land. My bet would be that you read the Daily Mail or The Sun.

what a bitter hatefilled badly informed clown you are, people have lost their lives in horrendous circumstances yet all you want to do is attack those who see events differently from yourself because of whichever newspaper you imagine they read.

Re: ' LONDON PROTESTS / TURN VIOLENT '

Sat Jun 17, 2017 6:30 pm

JimCP91 wrote:I would also like to add that the reason this turned sour, was because the public officials left that building through the back doors instead of speaking to the protestors. These people clearly have something to hide. Otherwise, why are they hiding?



like anyone with sense i will wait for the result of the investigation.
as for workers leaving through a back entrance rather than face an angry mob..are you real?
working class my arse....when it suits. yesterday you are underpaid and deserve more rights..today go face a hostile mob.

Re: ' LONDON PROTESTS / TURN VIOLENT '

Sun Jun 18, 2017 12:05 am

PEOPLE ON HERE CLAIM THEY WILL WAIT FOR RESULTS OF INVESTIGATION. too be honest thats what they did @ Hillsborough and due to their fighting qualities the truth came out but how many years did that take

Re: ' LONDON PROTESTS / TURN VIOLENT '

Sun Jun 18, 2017 12:07 am

Annis you are very prepared too so images of people fighting for their rights but you seem to degrade them at the same time would you do the same thing to people from palesteine

Re: ' LONDON PROTESTS / TURN VIOLENT '

Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:41 am

splottbluebird48 wrote:PEOPLE ON HERE CLAIM THEY WILL WAIT FOR RESULTS OF INVESTIGATION. too be honest thats what they did @ Hillsborough and due to their fighting qualities the truth came out but how many years did that take

So what do you suggest, we just blame whichever politician we hate. The full facts will come out in due course and it won't take as long as Hillsbough.

Re: ' LONDON PROTESTS / TURN VIOLENT '

Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:42 am

JimCP91 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
murphy wrote:Yet when people protested far more peacefully in Manchester about this years attacks an antifa mob turned up to have a pop at them.

Looking at the covered faces at today's protest, I bet antifa scum have turned out for it.



A BBC reporter said there was anti Tory protesters in amongst crowd! People blaming may but it had nothing to do with her! :o



May is responsible for her party and for our government. When our GOVERNMENT reject amendments to laws to make housing FIT FOR HUMAN HABITATION you have to ask her serious questions. This is a clear result of austerity, cuts and gentrification. If you cannot see this, you are totally out of touch and your head is in cuckoo land. My bet would be that you read the Daily Mail or The Sun.

In addition, why is she asking for a public inquiry instead of an inquest?

And this is totally different to what happened in Manchester. This wasn't an act of violence but an act of negligence. Although, May also has serious questions to answer as to how that individual was so easily able to travel back into the UK.


I'm assuming by this post you've already carried out your own investigation into the fire and you A. Know the cause B. Know what caused the fire to spread so quickly and C. Have proof that a sprinkler system internally would have somehow stopped the cheap flammable external cladding from lighting up and spreading like it did. D. You have assessed the fire exit route which ultimately was too small E. You have assessed the fact there was only one fire exit for over 400 residents.

Stop with your bullshit trying to make political gains. People have died here because of incompetence in the housing management company. I'm assuming you also know it was a Labour majority planning committee that oversaw the recent refurbishment works so use that angle if you want to use tragic circumstances to push your political rhetoric.

Re: ' LONDON PROTESTS / TURN VIOLENT '

Sun Jun 18, 2017 1:18 pm

splottbluebird48 wrote:PEOPLE ON HERE CLAIM THEY WILL WAIT FOR RESULTS OF INVESTIGATION. too be honest thats what they did @ Hillsborough and due to their fighting qualities the truth came out but how many years did that take



due to their fighting qualities the TRUTH came out..
you think finding that many thousands of ticket less fans turning up,many the worse for drink contributed nothing to the disaster..???????
the TRUTH as you call it was as tilted as the original version.
the actual truth is life is not perfect or is the world and try as we might there will from time to time be disasters..but some people are not happy unless they can pin all the blame at someones door.

Re: ' LONDON PROTESTS / TURN VIOLENT '

Mon Jun 19, 2017 10:31 pm

dogfound wrote:
splottbluebird48 wrote:PEOPLE ON HERE CLAIM THEY WILL WAIT FOR RESULTS OF INVESTIGATION. too be honest thats what they did @ Hillsborough and due to their fighting qualities the truth came out but how many years did that take



due to their fighting qualities the TRUTH came out..
you think finding that many thousands of ticket less fans turning up,many the worse for drink contributed nothing to the disaster..???????
the TRUTH as you call it was as tilted as the original version.
the actual truth is life is not perfect or is the world and try as we might there will from time to time be disasters..but some people are not happy unless they can pin all the blame at someones door.

Absolutley agree with this.

Sometimes life is just really, really shitty and yes there are probably people to blame, probably lots of them but finding a scape goat just so we can feel the brief satisfaction of the mob justice wont stop it being any less of a tragedy or stop those who lost loved ones feeling utterly empty for years to come.

Sometimes, life is just a true c**t. No need to politicise it.