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Sun Jun 04, 2017 8:27 am
Sun Jun 04, 2017 8:33 am
Tony Blue Williams wrote:3 Islamic terrorist attacks in the past 3 months and apparently 5 more have been foiled by MI5. Potentially that's one attack every 10 days!
We have to start to realise that a large part of the Muslim community has basically declared war on the UK. We now have to regard that community with complete suspicion including any claims they make which are designed to turn them into the victims. After the Manchester bombing their were claims that Salman Abedi had been reported by his local Mosque because he showed signs of radicalisation. It has now come to light that no record at all exists that this happened.
This latest attack will follow the pattern of every other one. Outrage for the first few days with praise for the emergency services (rightly so) followed by a brainwashing campaign which basically holds the UK to blame for provoking the poor hard done by Muslims.
History has proved time and again that appeasement doesn't work and if this mess is to be sorted out properly then some pretty hard decisions need to be taken. Firstly we need to adopt Trump's no more Muslim's in this country until we work out what the hell is going on.
Sun Jun 04, 2017 8:39 am
Bakedalasker wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:3 Islamic terrorist attacks in the past 3 months and apparently 5 more have been foiled by MI5. Potentially that's one attack every 10 days!
We have to start to realise that a large part of the Muslim community has basically declared war on the UK. We now have to regard that community with complete suspicion including any claims they make which are designed to turn them into the victims. After the Manchester bombing their were claims that Salman Abedi had been reported by his local Mosque because he showed signs of radicalisation. It has now come to light that no record at all exists that this happened.
This latest attack will follow the pattern of every other one. Outrage for the first few days with praise for the emergency services (rightly so) followed by a brainwashing campaign which basically holds the UK to blame for provoking the poor hard done by Muslims.
History has proved time and again that appeasement doesn't work and if this mess is to be sorted out properly then some pretty hard decisions need to be taken. Firstly we need to adopt Trump's no more Muslim's in this country until we work out what the hell is going on.
A hard decision will be to ban the practice of Islam.
Sun Jun 04, 2017 9:00 am
Tony Blue Williams wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:3 Islamic terrorist attacks in the past 3 months and apparently 5 more have been foiled by MI5. Potentially that's one attack every 10 days!
We have to start to realise that a large part of the Muslim community has basically declared war on the UK. We now have to regard that community with complete suspicion including any claims they make which are designed to turn them into the victims. After the Manchester bombing their were claims that Salman Abedi had been reported by his local Mosque because he showed signs of radicalisation. It has now come to light that no record at all exists that this happened.
This latest attack will follow the pattern of every other one. Outrage for the first few days with praise for the emergency services (rightly so) followed by a brainwashing campaign which basically holds the UK to blame for provoking the poor hard done by Muslims.
History has proved time and again that appeasement doesn't work and if this mess is to be sorted out properly then some pretty hard decisions need to be taken. Firstly we need to adopt Trump's no more Muslim's in this country until we work out what the hell is going on.
A hard decision will be to ban the practice of Islam.
You won't get any argument from me on that and I would love to see the banning of all religions which are by definition divisive.
Sun Jun 04, 2017 9:15 am
Hotdogboy wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:3 Islamic terrorist attacks in the past 3 months and apparently 5 more have been foiled by MI5. Potentially that's one attack every 10 days!
We have to start to realise that a large part of the Muslim community has basically declared war on the UK. We now have to regard that community with complete suspicion including any claims they make which are designed to turn them into the victims. After the Manchester bombing their were claims that Salman Abedi had been reported by his local Mosque because he showed signs of radicalisation. It has now come to light that no record at all exists that this happened.
This latest attack will follow the pattern of every other one. Outrage for the first few days with praise for the emergency services (rightly so) followed by a brainwashing campaign which basically holds the UK to blame for provoking the poor hard done by Muslims.
History has proved time and again that appeasement doesn't work and if this mess is to be sorted out properly then some pretty hard decisions need to be taken. Firstly we need to adopt Trump's no more Muslim's in this country until we work out what the hell is going on.
A hard decision will be to ban the practice of Islam.
You won't get any argument from me on that and I would love to see the banning of all religions which are by definition divisive.
Congratulations. Excellent post well done. Why don't you pin a badge of Isis and tell them to they face how good a job they are doing. This is exactly what they out to do and you have been defeated by them. Thank good we a country of strong will and stick together.
I understand how scared you are, but please keep it
To you selves don't give these people to response they crave. Or you turn the hundreds of thousands into the same as the 5 that are causing so much fear.
I have very right wing views on things but that's not how we function as a country so we have to respect that.
Sun Jun 04, 2017 9:22 am
Sun Jun 04, 2017 9:26 am
Tony Blue Williams wrote:Hotdogboy wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:3 Islamic terrorist attacks in the past 3 months and apparently 5 more have been foiled by MI5. Potentially that's one attack every 10 days!
We have to start to realise that a large part of the Muslim community has basically declared war on the UK. We now have to regard that community with complete suspicion including any claims they make which are designed to turn them into the victims. After the Manchester bombing their were claims that Salman Abedi had been reported by his local Mosque because he showed signs of radicalisation. It has now come to light that no record at all exists that this happened.
This latest attack will follow the pattern of every other one. Outrage for the first few days with praise for the emergency services (rightly so) followed by a brainwashing campaign which basically holds the UK to blame for provoking the poor hard done by Muslims.
History has proved time and again that appeasement doesn't work and if this mess is to be sorted out properly then some pretty hard decisions need to be taken. Firstly we need to adopt Trump's no more Muslim's in this country until we work out what the hell is going on.
A hard decision will be to ban the practice of Islam.
You won't get any argument from me on that and I would love to see the banning of all religions which are by definition divisive.
Congratulations. Excellent post well done. Why don't you pin a badge of Isis and tell them to they face how good a job they are doing. This is exactly what they out to do and you have been defeated by them. Thank good we a country of strong will and stick together.
I understand how scared you are, but please keep it
To you selves don't give these people to response they crave. Or you turn the hundreds of thousands into the same as the 5 that are causing so much fear.
I have very right wing views on things but that's not how we function as a country so we have to respect that.
It is clear that one community in this country has declared war on the UK. We have given them chance after chance to do something about it by helping the authorities but they have failed to act because Muslim teachings indoctrinate that one Muslim will not stand against another Muslim to help an infidel. It is that one dimensional thinking we are all up against.
This is why the misinformation that Salman Abedi was reported to authorities is so important. Despite their claims this didn't happen and it was a deliberate attempt to deflect blame away from the Muslim community who know how to play people like you and have been doing so for years.
That's why appeasement doesn't work and we now have to start view that community as the enemy within until this situation is brought under control. If we don't then we just have to accept that terrorist attacks like this will become part of our daily life and people will be expected to die so that PC people like you can take a false moral high ground.
Sun Jun 04, 2017 9:27 am
Hotdogboy wrote:My view is there shouldn't be non brits living in this country, all of them should be out. All European immigrants as well, that's what I want from brexit a very very hard line. But that's not how the country is governed and I accept that for now but hope it changes soon. But as things stand Isis will play people like you so easily and win they war. Stop applauding them by showing what a great job they doing.
You want to take real action and not be pc then pm me and I give you the information to join me and many others in getting rid of these unbritish traits.
Sun Jun 04, 2017 9:31 am
Jimmykingz wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:Hotdogboy wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:3 Islamic terrorist attacks in the past 3 months and apparently 5 more have been foiled by MI5. Potentially that's one attack every 10 days!
We have to start to realise that a large part of the Muslim community has basically declared war on the UK. We now have to regard that community with complete suspicion including any claims they make which are designed to turn them into the victims. After the Manchester bombing their were claims that Salman Abedi had been reported by his local Mosque because he showed signs of radicalisation. It has now come to light that no record at all exists that this happened.
This latest attack will follow the pattern of every other one. Outrage for the first few days with praise for the emergency services (rightly so) followed by a brainwashing campaign which basically holds the UK to blame for provoking the poor hard done by Muslims.
History has proved time and again that appeasement doesn't work and if this mess is to be sorted out properly then some pretty hard decisions need to be taken. Firstly we need to adopt Trump's no more Muslim's in this country until we work out what the hell is going on.
A hard decision will be to ban the practice of Islam.
You won't get any argument from me on that and I would love to see the banning of all religions which are by definition divisive.
Congratulations. Excellent post well done. Why don't you pin a badge of Isis and tell them to they face how good a job they are doing. This is exactly what they out to do and you have been defeated by them. Thank good we a country of strong will and stick together.
I understand how scared you are, but please keep it
To you selves don't give these people to response they crave. Or you turn the hundreds of thousands into the same as the 5 that are causing so much fear.
I have very right wing views on things but that's not how we function as a country so we have to respect that.
It is clear that one community in this country has declared war on the UK. We have given them chance after chance to do something about it by helping the authorities but they have failed to act because Muslim teachings indoctrinate that one Muslim will not stand against another Muslim to help an infidel. It is that one dimensional thinking we are all up against.
This is why the misinformation that Salman Abedi was reported to authorities is so important. Despite their claims this didn't happen and it was a deliberate attempt to deflect blame away from the Muslim community who know how to play people like you and have been doing so for years.
That's why appeasement doesn't work and we now have to start view that community as the enemy within until this situation is brought under control. If we don't then we just have to accept that terrorist attacks like this will become part of our daily life and people will be expected to die so that PC people like you can take a false moral high ground.
So what about Muslims in the army/Police? Will they just stand aside and say.. "Sorry pal, I can't help, he's a Muslim, I'm not allowed too."
You can't blame 1 billion people for the actions of a small percentage of their religion that twist words and brainwash others.
Religion is the scorn of the world in my eyes, but I wouldn't blame a whole religion for the actions of a few. You wouldn't of blamed Catholicism for the IRA
Sun Jun 04, 2017 9:33 am
dogfound wrote:Jimmykingz wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:Hotdogboy wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:3 Islamic terrorist attacks in the past 3 months and apparently 5 more have been foiled by MI5. Potentially that's one attack every 10 days!
We have to start to realise that a large part of the Muslim community has basically declared war on the UK. We now have to regard that community with complete suspicion including any claims they make which are designed to turn them into the victims. After the Manchester bombing their were claims that Salman Abedi had been reported by his local Mosque because he showed signs of radicalisation. It has now come to light that no record at all exists that this happened.
This latest attack will follow the pattern of every other one. Outrage for the first few days with praise for the emergency services (rightly so) followed by a brainwashing campaign which basically holds the UK to blame for provoking the poor hard done by Muslims.
History has proved time and again that appeasement doesn't work and if this mess is to be sorted out properly then some pretty hard decisions need to be taken. Firstly we need to adopt Trump's no more Muslim's in this country until we work out what the hell is going on.
A hard decision will be to ban the practice of Islam.
You won't get any argument from me on that and I would love to see the banning of all religions which are by definition divisive.
Congratulations. Excellent post well done. Why don't you pin a badge of Isis and tell them to they face how good a job they are doing. This is exactly what they out to do and you have been defeated by them. Thank good we a country of strong will and stick together.
I understand how scared you are, but please keep it
To you selves don't give these people to response they crave. Or you turn the hundreds of thousands into the same as the 5 that are causing so much fear.
I have very right wing views on things but that's not how we function as a country so we have to respect that.
It is clear that one community in this country has declared war on the UK. We have given them chance after chance to do something about it by helping the authorities but they have failed to act because Muslim teachings indoctrinate that one Muslim will not stand against another Muslim to help an infidel. It is that one dimensional thinking we are all up against.
This is why the misinformation that Salman Abedi was reported to authorities is so important. Despite their claims this didn't happen and it was a deliberate attempt to deflect blame away from the Muslim community who know how to play people like you and have been doing so for years.
That's why appeasement doesn't work and we now have to start view that community as the enemy within until this situation is brought under control. If we don't then we just have to accept that terrorist attacks like this will become part of our daily life and people will be expected to die so that PC people like you can take a false moral high ground.
So what about Muslims in the army/Police? Will they just stand aside and say.. "Sorry pal, I can't help, he's a Muslim, I'm not allowed too."
You can't blame 1 billion people for the actions of a small percentage of their religion that twist words and brainwash others.
Religion is the scorn of the world in my eyes, but I wouldn't blame a whole religion for the actions of a few. You wouldn't of blamed Catholicism for the IRA
are you sure they are..twisting words...or is that book evil.
Sun Jun 04, 2017 9:34 am
Jimmykingz wrote:Hotdogboy wrote:My view is there shouldn't be non brits living in this country, all of them should be out. All European immigrants as well, that's what I want from brexit a very very hard line. But that's not how the country is governed and I accept that for now but hope it changes soon. But as things stand Isis will play people like you so easily and win they war. Stop applauding them by showing what a great job they doing.
You want to take real action and not be pc then pm me and I give you the information to join me and many others in getting rid of these unbritish traits.
How many nazi tattoos have you got pal?
Sun Jun 04, 2017 9:38 am
Sun Jun 04, 2017 9:39 am
Jimmykingz wrote:dogfound wrote:Jimmykingz wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:Hotdogboy wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:3 Islamic terrorist attacks in the past 3 months and apparently 5 more have been foiled by MI5. Potentially that's one attack every 10 days!
We have to start to realise that a large part of the Muslim community has basically declared war on the UK. We now have to regard that community with complete suspicion including any claims they make which are designed to turn them into the victims. After the Manchester bombing their were claims that Salman Abedi had been reported by his local Mosque because he showed signs of radicalisation. It has now come to light that no record at all exists that this happened.
This latest attack will follow the pattern of every other one. Outrage for the first few days with praise for the emergency services (rightly so) followed by a brainwashing campaign which basically holds the UK to blame for provoking the poor hard done by Muslims.
History has proved time and again that appeasement doesn't work and if this mess is to be sorted out properly then some pretty hard decisions need to be taken. Firstly we need to adopt Trump's no more Muslim's in this country until we work out what the hell is going on.
A hard decision will be to ban the practice of Islam.
You won't get any argument from me on that and I would love to see the banning of all religions which are by definition divisive.
Congratulations. Excellent post well done. Why don't you pin a badge of Isis and tell them to they face how good a job they are doing. This is exactly what they out to do and you have been defeated by them. Thank good we a country of strong will and stick together.
I understand how scared you are, but please keep it
To you selves don't give these people to response they crave. Or you turn the hundreds of thousands into the same as the 5 that are causing so much fear.
I have very right wing views on things but that's not how we function as a country so we have to respect that.
It is clear that one community in this country has declared war on the UK. We have given them chance after chance to do something about it by helping the authorities but they have failed to act because Muslim teachings indoctrinate that one Muslim will not stand against another Muslim to help an infidel. It is that one dimensional thinking we are all up against.
This is why the misinformation that Salman Abedi was reported to authorities is so important. Despite their claims this didn't happen and it was a deliberate attempt to deflect blame away from the Muslim community who know how to play people like you and have been doing so for years.
That's why appeasement doesn't work and we now have to start view that community as the enemy within until this situation is brought under control. If we don't then we just have to accept that terrorist attacks like this will become part of our daily life and people will be expected to die so that PC people like you can take a false moral high ground.
So what about Muslims in the army/Police? Will they just stand aside and say.. "Sorry pal, I can't help, he's a Muslim, I'm not allowed too."
You can't blame 1 billion people for the actions of a small percentage of their religion that twist words and brainwash others.
Religion is the scorn of the world in my eyes, but I wouldn't blame a whole religion for the actions of a few. You wouldn't of blamed Catholicism for the IRA
are you sure they are..twisting words...or is that book evil.
Ever read the Old Testament? It's just as evil.
Sun Jun 04, 2017 9:42 am
Sun Jun 04, 2017 10:09 am
Jimmykingz wrote:I've read/studied most religious books. You could interpret every one of them and twist them and use them to incite violence. Doesn't mean I would blame a whole religion for actions of a few
Sun Jun 04, 2017 10:12 am
Jimmykingz wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:Hotdogboy wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:3 Islamic terrorist attacks in the past 3 months and apparently 5 more have been foiled by MI5. Potentially that's one attack every 10 days!
We have to start to realise that a large part of the Muslim community has basically declared war on the UK. We now have to regard that community with complete suspicion including any claims they make which are designed to turn them into the victims. After the Manchester bombing their were claims that Salman Abedi had been reported by his local Mosque because he showed signs of radicalisation. It has now come to light that no record at all exists that this happened.
This latest attack will follow the pattern of every other one. Outrage for the first few days with praise for the emergency services (rightly so) followed by a brainwashing campaign which basically holds the UK to blame for provoking the poor hard done by Muslims.
History has proved time and again that appeasement doesn't work and if this mess is to be sorted out properly then some pretty hard decisions need to be taken. Firstly we need to adopt Trump's no more Muslim's in this country until we work out what the hell is going on.
A hard decision will be to ban the practice of Islam.
You won't get any argument from me on that and I would love to see the banning of all religions which are by definition divisive.
Congratulations. Excellent post well done. Why don't you pin a badge of Isis and tell them to they face how good a job they are doing. This is exactly what they out to do and you have been defeated by them. Thank good we a country of strong will and stick together.
I understand how scared you are, but please keep it
To you selves don't give these people to response they crave. Or you turn the hundreds of thousands into the same as the 5 that are causing so much fear.
I have very right wing views on things but that's not how we function as a country so we have to respect that.
It is clear that one community in this country has declared war on the UK. We have given them chance after chance to do something about it by helping the authorities but they have failed to act because Muslim teachings indoctrinate that one Muslim will not stand against another Muslim to help an infidel. It is that one dimensional thinking we are all up against.
This is why the misinformation that Salman Abedi was reported to authorities is so important. Despite their claims this didn't happen and it was a deliberate attempt to deflect blame away from the Muslim community who know how to play people like you and have been doing so for years.
That's why appeasement doesn't work and we now have to start view that community as the enemy within until this situation is brought under control. If we don't then we just have to accept that terrorist attacks like this will become part of our daily life and people will be expected to die so that PC people like you can take a false moral high ground.
So what about Muslims in the army/Police? Will they just stand aside and say.. "Sorry pal, I can't help, he's a Muslim, I'm not allowed too."
You can't blame 1 billion people for the actions of a small percentage of their religion that twist words and brainwash others.
Religion is the scorn of the world in my eyes, but I wouldn't blame a whole religion for the actions of a few. You wouldn't of blamed Catholicism for the IRA
Sun Jun 04, 2017 1:04 pm
Sun Jun 04, 2017 1:11 pm
SWABF wrote:One thing on this forum so far that I have not seen is a congratulations to the police. (I could be wrong but I haven't seen anything)
8 minutes is a very short amount of time.
You could have a shower, you could drink your tea or you could hang your washing out.
But to receive a phone call about an incident, prepare yourself mentally and physically to deal with it, get to the location, identify the situation, find all 3 suspects and shoot them dead in just 8 minutes is absolutely phenomenal.
Sun Jun 04, 2017 1:16 pm
Xcasual wrote:SWABF wrote:One thing on this forum so far that I have not seen is a congratulations to the police. (I could be wrong but I haven't seen anything)
8 minutes is a very short amount of time.
You could have a shower, you could drink your tea or you could hang your washing out.
But to receive a phone call about an incident, prepare yourself mentally and physically to deal with it, get to the location, identify the situation, find all 3 suspects and shoot them dead in just 8 minutes is absolutely phenomenal.
Spot on mate ,Well done everyone involved Ambulance,Police and anyone else that tried to help. Now send out the army to finish the rats lurking in our streets off.
Sun Jun 04, 2017 1:19 pm
Sun Jun 04, 2017 1:52 pm
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Sun Jun 04, 2017 2:17 pm
Roathblue33 wrote:We need to stop blaming foreign policy. As much as it's a factor....we can't be squeamish about saying Islamic scriptures on martyrdom and jihad and other things draw people down a road of violence.
Look at Vietnam. American killled 20% of their population in the 70's. Dropped more bombs than the whole of ww2. Do we see Vietnamese immigrants in America blowing kids up? No so there are other factors. Islam has ideas that are part of the problem.
Or Tibet. Brutalised and occupied by the Chinese. Are Tibetans blowing themselves up on the streets of china? No do when you hear people blame foreign policy, it's only part of the picture. The bigger part is Islamic scripture of which a lot is pure poison.
The issue with Islam is it Says it's the divine unerring word of god. And it says it's the last revelation. So that immediately paints itself into a corner as far as reform. It also states its aims as complete submission of a person to gods word. Islam means submit. So it cuts the heart out of human reason. That's not an accident. Finally it's stated aims are world domination. To convert, to be subjugated or to be killed. It preaches an eye for an eye and exhorts martyrdom as the highest religion expression. That's why these people do it. They are seeking martyrdom. The only way to tackle that is to tackle the idea of martyrdom. And to do that you have to say the Koran is wrong. That it's not gods unerring word. Even saying that in the uk would cause riots. So it's tricky
Sun Jun 04, 2017 2:46 pm
Sun Jun 04, 2017 3:16 pm
Sun Jun 04, 2017 4:04 pm
splottbluebird48 wrote:But as broadcaster Paul Lewis highlighted this morning, May has blocked publication of a report into the funding of terrorism until at least after the election and possibly permanently – because it allegedly focuses on the central role of Saudi Arabia: