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Swansea must be proud

Sat Jun 03, 2017 9:45 pm

of their Capital after tonight... :thumbup: :clap: :king: :mrgreen: :occasion5:

Re: Swansea must be proud

Sat Jun 03, 2017 10:15 pm

Proud of a City?

Are people who are from Manchester proud of London when an FA Cup final gets held there? It was a great final, a superb venue and a great occasion in a really nice City - but 'proud' of a City? No.

Re: Swansea must be proud

Sat Jun 03, 2017 10:47 pm

SnackaJack wrote:Proud of a City?

Are people who are from Manchester proud of London when an FA Cup final gets held there? It was a great final, a superb venue and a great occasion in a really nice City - but 'proud' of a City? No.


Have you ever been proud of Swansea ?

Re: Swansea must be proud

Sat Jun 03, 2017 10:57 pm

GENERAL CHAT wrote:
SnackaJack wrote:Proud of a City?

Are people who are from Manchester proud of London when an FA Cup final gets held there? It was a great final, a superb venue and a great occasion in a really nice City - but 'proud' of a City? No.


Have you ever been proud of Swansea ?


The football club or the City? Can't recall ever being proud of a City in any capacity, whether it be one I live in or any other.

Cardiff is a fantastic City, lived there for many years, it has had some major investment so is naturally perfect for large finals due to the capacity of the Millenium Stadium and the structure of the City around it. I would imagine many more events will be held there too, as they should be.

Re: Swansea must be proud

Sat Jun 03, 2017 11:03 pm

SnackaJack wrote:
GENERAL CHAT wrote:
SnackaJack wrote:Proud of a City?

Are people who are from Manchester proud of London when an FA Cup final gets held there? It was a great final, a superb venue and a great occasion in a really nice City - but 'proud' of a City? No.


Have you ever been proud of Swansea ?


The football club or the City? Can't recall ever being proud of a City in any capacity, whether it be one I live in or any other.

Cardiff is a fantastic City, lived there for many years, it has had some major investment so is naturally perfect for large finals due to the capacity of the Millenium Stadium and the structure of the City around it. I would imagine many more events will be held there too, as they should be.


I have to admit to being proud of our Capital. :occasion5:

Re: Swansea must be proud

Sat Jun 03, 2017 11:15 pm

GENERAL CHAT wrote:
I have to admit to being proud of our Capital. :occasion5:


Fair enough. Each to their own.

Re: Swansea must be proud

Sat Jun 03, 2017 11:44 pm

Living where I do & watching the build up & game on tv I have to say that yes I was proud of both Cardiff & Wales today, not that I have ever been anything but proud of Wales & being Welsh.

Re: Swansea must be proud

Sun Jun 04, 2017 12:51 am

SnackaJack wrote:Proud of a City?

Are people who are from Manchester proud of London when an FA Cup final gets held there? It was a great final, a superb venue and a great occasion in a really nice City - but 'proud' of a City? No.


Proud of a City, absolutely just as I am sure people from Manchester were of London when it was the main venue for the Olympics.

The CL final is one of the biggest sporting events in the world and Cardiff has hosted it superbly, as a nation we should be unbelievably proud of the City right now no matter where we come from.

I understand why you are being like you are though, I like Sven but why he's felt the need to have a pop at Swansea I don't know, a little bit childish on a proud night if you ask me

Re: Swansea must be proud

Sun Jun 04, 2017 8:50 am

RV Casual wrote:
SnackaJack wrote:Proud of a City?

Are people who are from Manchester proud of London when an FA Cup final gets held there? It was a great final, a superb venue and a great occasion in a really nice City - but 'proud' of a City? No.


Proud of a City, absolutely just as I am sure people from Manchester were of London when it was the main venue for the Olympics.

The CL final is one of the biggest sporting events in the world and Cardiff has hosted it superbly, as a nation we should be unbelievably proud of the City right now no matter where we come from.

I understand why you are being like you are though, I like Sven but why he's felt the need to have a pop at Swansea I don't know, a little bit childish on a proud night if you ask me


Remember the title of the thread. It's not "Cardiff must be proud of Cardiff", so the Manchester example is not relevant. Do you think people of Bolton were proud of Manchester? Or do you think it is fair to say they would be completely apathetic towards it, while acknowledging that is was an excellent event?

Cardiff as a City has an excellent sporting pedigree, I never had any doubt that it was capable of hosting such an event. I would hope it gets many more similar events. But in terms of pride - I have no more pride for Cardiff as a City as I do about Manchester as a City for hosting the Olympics.

Were you proud of Manchester then?

Re: Swansea must be proud

Sun Jun 04, 2017 9:04 am

SnackaJack wrote:
RV Casual wrote:
SnackaJack wrote:Proud of a City?

Are people who are from Manchester proud of London when an FA Cup final gets held there? It was a great final, a superb venue and a great occasion in a really nice City - but 'proud' of a City? No.


Proud of a City, absolutely just as I am sure people from Manchester were of London when it was the main venue for the Olympics.

The CL final is one of the biggest sporting events in the world and Cardiff has hosted it superbly, as a nation we should be unbelievably proud of the City right now no matter where we come from.

I understand why you are being like you are though, I like Sven but why he's felt the need to have a pop at Swansea I don't know, a little bit childish on a proud night if you ask me


Remember the title of the thread. It's not "Cardiff must be proud of Cardiff", so the Manchester example is not relevant. Do you think people of Bolton were proud of Manchester? Or do you think it is fair to say they would be completely apathetic towards it, while acknowledging that is was an excellent event?

Cardiff as a City has an excellent sporting pedigree, I never had any doubt that it was capable of hosting such an event. I would hope it gets many more similar events. But in terms of pride - I have no more pride for Cardiff as a City as I do about Manchester as a City for hosting the Olympics.

Were you proud of Manchester then?

Probably not, but you can't knock any Cardiffian for being proud of their City yesterday. Cardiff put on a hell of an event and I'm sure everyone who attended would agree. Well done Cardiff. :bluescarf:

Re: Swansea must be proud

Sun Jun 04, 2017 9:25 am

I didn't knock anyone.

Just answered a question aimed at people not from there. Although on that subject, I highly expect much of this 'pride' is coming from people who arent from Cardiff, but claiming they are due to choosing to support a football team that also happens to play in the same City as the event in question. A bit like Man Utd fans from Hackney being proud of the City of Manchester for hosting the Olympics. All seems a bit disingenuous.

But anyone born, raised or living in Cardiff then I can understand a sense of pride, especially if you follow football. But I don't see why anyone would feel pride for an event held in a City they are not from, be that people of Merthyr, Manchester or Maidenhead... it was held in Cardiff.

Re: Swansea must be proud

Sun Jun 04, 2017 9:52 am

SnackaJack wrote:I didn't knock anyone.

Just answered a question aimed at people not from there. Although on that subject, I highly expect much of this 'pride' is coming from people who arent from Cardiff, but claiming they are due to choosing to support a football team that also happens to play in the same City as the event in question. A bit like Man Utd fans from Hackney being proud of the City of Manchester for hosting the Olympics. All seems a bit disingenuous.

But anyone born, raised or living in Cardiff then I can understand a sense of pride, especially if you follow football. But I don't see why anyone would feel pride for an event held in a City they are not from, be that people of Merthyr, Manchester or Maidenhead... it was held in Cardiff.

When did Manchester host the Olympic Games then? Must of missed that one. I also said Cardiffians must have been proud.

Re: Swansea must be proud

Sun Jun 04, 2017 9:59 am

norms76 wrote:
SnackaJack wrote:I didn't knock anyone.

Just answered a question aimed at people not from there. Although on that subject, I highly expect much of this 'pride' is coming from people who arent from Cardiff, but claiming they are due to choosing to support a football team that also happens to play in the same City as the event in question. A bit like Man Utd fans from Hackney being proud of the City of Manchester for hosting the Olympics. All seems a bit disingenuous.

But anyone born, raised or living in Cardiff then I can understand a sense of pride, especially if you follow football. But I don't see why anyone would feel pride for an event held in a City they are not from, be that people of Merthyr, Manchester or Maidenhead... it was held in Cardiff.

When did Manchester host the Olympic Games then? Must of missed that one. I also said Cardiffians must have been proud.


I thought that was what a poster above said, I don't follow these things. Use any example if it is inaccurate, it all fits. Glasgow hosting the Champions League then. Did you have great pride in Glasgow?

Re: Swansea must be proud

Sun Jun 04, 2017 10:22 am

SnackaJack wrote:
norms76 wrote:
SnackaJack wrote:I didn't knock anyone.

Just answered a question aimed at people not from there. Although on that subject, I highly expect much of this 'pride' is coming from people who arent from Cardiff, but claiming they are due to choosing to support a football team that also happens to play in the same City as the event in question. A bit like Man Utd fans from Hackney being proud of the City of Manchester for hosting the Olympics. All seems a bit disingenuous.

But anyone born, raised or living in Cardiff then I can understand a sense of pride, especially if you follow football. But I don't see why anyone would feel pride for an event held in a City they are not from, be that people of Merthyr, Manchester or Maidenhead... it was held in Cardiff.

When did Manchester host the Olympic Games then? Must of missed that one. I also said Cardiffians must have been proud.


I thought that was what a poster above said, I don't follow these things. Use any example if it is inaccurate, it all fits. Glasgow hosting the Champions League then. Did you have great pride in Glasgow?

I'll say it for the third time then shall I? I said, I bet Cardiffians must have been proud.

Re: Swansea must be proud

Sun Jun 04, 2017 10:24 am

Then you are not understanding the title or theme of the thread.

Are you from Cardiff then? Didn't think you were.

Re: Swansea must be proud

Sun Jun 04, 2017 10:34 am

SnackaJack wrote:Then you are not understanding the title or theme of the thread.

Are you from Cardiff then? Didn't think you were.

Nope, I was pointing out that the people of Cardiff should be proud for showing the rest of the world that it was capable of holding the biggest club football cup final in Europe or quite possibly the world. They've put the City & Wales on the footballing world map.

Being a Cardiff City fan also it was awesome to see.

Re: Swansea must be proud

Sun Jun 04, 2017 11:15 am

norms76 wrote:
SnackaJack wrote:Then you are not understanding the title or theme of the thread.

Are you from Cardiff then? Didn't think you were.

Nope, I was pointing out that the people of Cardiff should be proud for showing the rest of the world that it was capable of holding the biggest club football cup final in Europe or quite possibly the world. They've put the City & Wales on the footballing world map.

Being a Cardiff City fan also it was awesome to see.


I doubt that's true, did it put Scotland and Glasgow on the footballing map? Vienna and Austria? Bari and Italy? Not really.

A phenomenal occasion as it is every year and one that I guess people being from Cardiff can be proud of. Don't see what being a fan of a football club that plays in the same City as the chosen venue, while not actually being from there yourself has to do with anything though personally. It seems an awfully spurious connection.

Re: Swansea must be proud

Sun Jun 04, 2017 12:11 pm

I live bang in the middle of cardiff and Swansea, and I have to say I was very proud of Cardiff city tonight, can't say iv ever felt the same regarding Swansea.

Re: Swansea must be proud

Sun Jun 04, 2017 12:13 pm

Cant fathom being proud of a place im not from, but as I said - each to their own and all that 8-)

Re: Swansea must be proud

Sun Jun 04, 2017 2:05 pm

You can't fathom being proud of your capital city ? I know plenty of people around the world that are proud of their capital cities, some are not but like you say each to their own. Last night was a night to be proud of your capital, what a showpiece with no trouble at all, bouncing atmosphere all day cardiff people mixing with the Spanish and Italian proud moment.

Re: Swansea must be proud

Sun Jun 04, 2017 2:17 pm

BobbyBlue wrote:You can't fathom being proud of your capital city ? I know plenty of people around the world that are proud of their capital cities, some are not but like you say each to their own. Last night was a night to be proud of your capital, what a showpiece with no trouble at all, bouncing atmosphere all day cardiff people mixing with the Spanish and Italian proud moment.


You know what a capital city is don't you? It means it is the primary Government baring area of the country. That's it. Nothing more.

You reckon people outside of that area should be proud of it because that's where the Governments seat is? Bizarre.

As I said, I highly doubt someone from Bury is proud of London for hosting the FA Cup. A great spectacle and thoroughly enjoyed it, but this faux pride and pride expectancy is just weird. Why would anyone think it couldn't host the Final? Glasgow managed just fine and Cardiff is far better equipped to do so.

It's a lovely City with excellent facilities - which is why I lived there for half a decade. The nights success doesn't surprise me one bit.

Re: Swansea must be proud

Sun Jun 04, 2017 2:42 pm

I think your getting things mixed up in your tiny brain, the reason I am proud personally is because of the way the cardiff people behaved and interacted with the Spanish and Italian, and the way they were treated with no problems at all, if you were there and seen the scenes in Cardiff then any normal Welsh person would feel a sense of pride.

England being as big as it is maybe people from bury won't feel the sense of pride as us locals do as they live so far away from London, but maybe people on the outskirts of London would feel proud of the way an event was organised and run.

Re: Swansea must be proud

Sun Jun 04, 2017 2:52 pm

BobbyBlue wrote:I think your getting things mixed up in your tiny brain, the reason I am proud personally is because of the way the cardiff people behaved and interacted with the Spanish and Italian, and the way they were treated with no problems at all, if you were there and seen the scenes in Cardiff then any normal Welsh person would feel a sense of pride.

England being as big as it is maybe people from bury won't feel the sense of pride as us locals do as they live so far away from London, but maybe people on the outskirts of London would feel proud of the way an event was organised and run.


So what you are saying is people outside Cardiff should be proud that the people of Cardiff were friendly to foreign visitors? :?

Re: Swansea must be proud

Sun Jun 04, 2017 3:19 pm

I am proud of the people of Cardiff and my capital city Cardiff putting on such a big event and treating foreigners respectively, look at my other post about my friend from Cardiff giving his ticket away to a Real Madrid fan, only a sick minded person cannot feel a little pride of the compassion showed by that person, makes me proud to call Cardiff our Capital.

Re: Swansea must be proud

Sun Jun 04, 2017 3:22 pm

I'm from outside the capital and feel proud and I'm sure many more from outside the capital do as well.

Re: Swansea must be proud

Sun Jun 04, 2017 3:30 pm

So I and others are sick to not naturally expect the people of Cardiff to act like decent normal human beings like all the other finals held in all the different places before it?

Ok, sick we shall remain :D

And why are you surprised that UEFA organised this without a hitch? They do it yearly.

Re: Swansea must be proud

Sun Jun 04, 2017 3:33 pm

SnackaJack wrote:So I and others are sick to not naturally expect the people of Cardiff to act like decent normal human beings like all the other finals held in all the different places before it?

Ok, sick we shall remain :D

And why are you surprised that UEFA organised this without a hitch? They do it yearly.


Totally twisted my words there. I said you would have to be sick not to feel a little pride at the way my friend from Cardiff gave his final ticket to a Real Madrid fan without one, thank you and good night.

Re: Swansea must be proud

Sun Jun 04, 2017 3:34 pm

SnackaJack wrote:So I and others are sick to not naturally expect the people of Cardiff to act like decent normal human beings like all the other finals held in all the different places before it?

Ok, sick we shall remain :D

And why are you surprised that UEFA organised this without a hitch? They do it yearly.


Totally twisted my words there. I said you would have to be sick not to feel a little pride at the way my friend from Cardiff gave his final ticket to a Real Madrid fan without one, thank you and good night.

Re: Swansea must be proud

Sun Jun 04, 2017 3:38 pm

BobbyBlue wrote:
SnackaJack wrote:So I and others are sick to not naturally expect the people of Cardiff to act like decent normal human beings like all the other finals held in all the different places before it?

Ok, sick we shall remain :D

And why are you surprised that UEFA organised this without a hitch? They do it yearly.


Totally twisted my words there. I said you would have to be sick not to feel a little pride at the way my friend from Cardiff gave his final ticket to a Real Madrid fan without one, thank you and good night.


So it's gone from being proud of a City you don't live in... to being proud of the people of the City you don't live in... to being proud of the normal behaviour of those people... to being proud of your mate?

Enjoy the football for gods sake and take it for what it was, if you think the world is beaming with pride because a well equipped city was able to host a football match (as a City does every single year with equal success) then you are going to be gutted.

Re: Swansea must be proud

Sun Jun 04, 2017 4:03 pm

Proud of my Capital.
Proud of the people of Cardiff (my mate being one of them)

I can see iv hit a nerve.

Nothing's changed, au revoir I'm off.