Tue May 30, 2017 10:35 am
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Tue May 30, 2017 1:31 pm
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Tue May 30, 2017 3:32 pm
petesmeat wrote:Does this suit your narrative or should we just ignore this as well...
Tue May 30, 2017 3:40 pm
petesmeat wrote:Does this suit your narrative or should we just ignore this as well...
Wed May 31, 2017 9:47 am
Steve Zodiak wrote:petesmeat wrote:Does this suit your narrative or should we just ignore this as well...
To be fair there is a big difference in a photo of people together during times of peace, particularly when the person in question is the Deputy First Minister, and a photo of people attending a para-military funeral. I have no idea if Corbyn was an IRA sympathiser, and rather than believe what I read in the press tend to accept what he has said. However, these two pictures can hardly be compared as one has obviously been taken in recent times, and the other during the troubles. Corbyn being photographed with Adams today would not have the effect of them being photographed at the height of the troubles. I am talking about the photographs only, and not arguing as to whether or not Corbyn has ever supported any terrorist organisations as I don't know what his personal views are.
Wed May 31, 2017 10:10 am
Jock wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:petesmeat wrote:Does this suit your narrative or should we just ignore this as well...
To be fair there is a big difference in a photo of people together during times of peace, particularly when the person in question is the Deputy First Minister, and a photo of people attending a para-military funeral. I have no idea if Corbyn was an IRA sympathiser, and rather than believe what I read in the press tend to accept what he has said. However, these two pictures can hardly be compared as one has obviously been taken in recent times, and the other during the troubles. Corbyn being photographed with Adams today would not have the effect of them being photographed at the height of the troubles. I am talking about the photographs only, and not arguing as to whether or not Corbyn has ever supported any terrorist organisations as I don't know what his personal views are.
One banger on here believes a Conservative councillor supporting the IRa is the same as Corbyn, Abbott, McDonnell etc supporting them. Corbyn and co were in the IMG (international Marxist group) they supported the Provos and every other terrorist organisation around at that time.
I think the Torys have fought the wrong campaign focusing on Labours obvious weaknesses rather than their own strengths, it could well comeback and bite them on the arse and Corbyn, despite his insane Worldview and naive politics, could do far better than expected. If May has a small majority or we end up with a hung parliament the vindictive parasites in the EU will exploit that to sew division, we could end up in a horrendous limbo of political and economic uncertainty. Our only chance of a good deal for our country is if we all pull together and stand as one against Tusk and Junkers, tragically I can't see that happening and I fear the worst.
Wed May 31, 2017 10:33 am
Jock wrote:I think the Torys have fought the wrong campaign focusing on Labours obvious weaknesses rather than their own strengths, it could well comeback and bite them on the arse and Corbyn, despite his insane Worldview and naive politics, could do far better than expected. If May has a small majority or we end up with a hung parliament the vindictive parasites in the EU will exploit that to sew division, we could end up in a horrendous limbo of political and economic uncertainty. Our only chance of a good deal for our country is if we all pull together and stand as one against Tusk and Junkers, tragically I can't see that happening and I fear the worst.
and the Nasty Party will be gone within 3 years Wed May 31, 2017 10:42 am
jon1959 wrote:
You're at it again aren't you?
Jeremy Corbyn was never a member of the IMG as far as I know. I have never seen that claimed by any of his political or media enemies. His brother was. But Piers Corbyn is now a loony climate change denier and regular darling of the Daily Express. He's also changed his hair style - it happens!
Wed May 31, 2017 11:08 am
Tony Blue Williams wrote:jon1959 wrote:
You're at it again aren't you?
Jeremy Corbyn was never a member of the IMG as far as I know. I have never seen that claimed by any of his political or media enemies. His brother was. But Piers Corbyn is now a loony climate change denier and regular darling of the Daily Express. He's also changed his hair style - it happens!
I'm a bang on Labour voter but even I would suggest that Corbyn has in the past had Marxist views. Actually Karl Marx had some very good ideas which I would totally support although I don't buy the whole package of Marxism.
What is becoming clear about Corbyn is he is a literal 'left' field thinker. He simply doesn't follow the crowd and allow others to make up his mind for him. With regard to the IRA he simply worked out years before everyone else that peace would only be made if the Government engaged with dialogue with the Republicans and so he engaged with them and worked to get their trust.
I admit the pictures of him at a para-military funeral look awful but when measured against the bigger picture of peace in N Ireland it was a price well worth paying.
Wed May 31, 2017 11:12 am
Wed May 31, 2017 11:25 am
Tony Blue Williams wrote:jon1959 wrote:
You're at it again aren't you?
Jeremy Corbyn was never a member of the IMG as far as I know. I have never seen that claimed by any of his political or media enemies. His brother was. But Piers Corbyn is now a loony climate change denier and regular darling of the Daily Express. He's also changed his hair style - it happens!
I'm a bang on Labour voter but even I would suggest that Corbyn has in the past had Marxist views. Actually Karl Marx had some very good ideas which I would totally support although I don't buy the whole package of Marxism.
What is becoming clear about Corbyn is he is a literal 'left' field thinker. He simply doesn't follow the crowd and allow others to make up his mind for him. With regard to the IRA he simply worked out years before everyone else that peace would only be made if the Government engaged with dialogue with the Republicans and so he engaged with them and worked to get their trust.
I admit the pictures of him at a para-military funeral look awful but when measured against the bigger picture of peace in N Ireland it was a price well worth paying.
Wed May 31, 2017 11:38 am
CF14-SE14 wrote:is that even corny in the photo, doesn't even look like him
Wed May 31, 2017 12:00 pm
dogfound wrote:CF14-SE14 wrote:is that even corny in the photo, doesn't even look like him
how you pple can laugh beats the hell out of me.
typical socialist tbh.they didnt blow me up..didnt blow my kids up. im alright jack.
Wed May 31, 2017 12:53 pm
CF14-SE14 wrote:dogfound wrote:CF14-SE14 wrote:is that even corny in the photo, doesn't even look like him
how you pple can laugh beats the hell out of me.
typical socialist tbh.they didnt blow me up..didnt blow my kids up. im alright jack.
Bollocks, I just don't believe the rubbish you believe.
He's a PACIFIST therefore he wouldn't be supporting a terrorist organisation would he?
He may have had dialogue with them, may have courted them, may have humoured them and may even have agreed with some of their aims, BUT he would never condone violence or terrorism as he's a proud and loud PACIFIST.
Which is why people like me laugh at the smear campaign by the right wing press who'll do anything to keep their minions in power.
I'm not a pacifist so I'd happily slap anyone in the IRA guilty of murdering children, I'd also happily slap the Unionist murderers and the British Army commanders who were also responsible for killing children.
Wed May 31, 2017 12:58 pm
Jock wrote:CF14-SE14 wrote:dogfound wrote:CF14-SE14 wrote:is that even corny in the photo, doesn't even look like him
how you pple can laugh beats the hell out of me.
typical socialist tbh.they didnt blow me up..didnt blow my kids up. im alright jack.
Bollocks, I just don't believe the rubbish you believe.
He's a PACIFIST therefore he wouldn't be supporting a terrorist organisation would he?
He may have had dialogue with them, may have courted them, may have humoured them and may even have agreed with some of their aims, BUT he would never condone violence or terrorism as he's a proud and loud PACIFIST.
Which is why people like me laugh at the smear campaign by the right wing press who'll do anything to keep their minions in power.
I'm not a pacifist so I'd happily slap anyone in the IRA guilty of murdering children, I'd also happily slap the Unionist murderers and the British Army commanders who were also responsible for killing children.
Politics has changed beyond all recognition in the past 20years or so and as someone mentioned supporting a political party is almost like supporting a football team, especially for the hard of thinking like yourself, believe it or not (obviously you won't) everyone who has a different opinion to yourself doesn't arrive at it simply because they're stupid enough to believe Daily Mail editorial. You are really not worth engaging with because your so full of hate, for Conservative voters, it's blinded you to serious issues with the Labour leadership.
Wed May 31, 2017 2:21 pm
CF14-SE14 wrote:Jock wrote:CF14-SE14 wrote:dogfound wrote:CF14-SE14 wrote:is that even corny in the photo, doesn't even look like him
how you pple can laugh beats the hell out of me.
typical socialist tbh.they didnt blow me up..didnt blow my kids up. im alright jack.
Bollocks, I just don't believe the rubbish you believe.
He's a PACIFIST therefore he wouldn't be supporting a terrorist organisation would he?
He may have had dialogue with them, may have courted them, may have humoured them and may even have agreed with some of their aims, BUT he would never condone violence or terrorism as he's a proud and loud PACIFIST.
Which is why people like me laugh at the smear campaign by the right wing press who'll do anything to keep their minions in power.
I'm not a pacifist so I'd happily slap anyone in the IRA guilty of murdering children, I'd also happily slap the Unionist murderers and the British Army commanders who were also responsible for killing children.
Politics has changed beyond all recognition in the past 20years or so and as someone mentioned supporting a political party is almost like supporting a football team, especially for the hard of thinking like yourself, believe it or not (obviously you won't) everyone who has a different opinion to yourself doesn't arrive at it simply because they're stupid enough to believe Daily Mail editorial. You are really not worth engaging with because your so full of hate, for Conservative voters, it's blinded you to serious issues with the Labour leadership.
I don't actually support Labour and neither am I a huge fan of Corbyn.
I'm not party political at all, apart from the fact I hate the Tories for how they treat working class communities and blame everyone else. There is a reason why the UK is the country with the largest divide between rich and poor in Europe.
Wed May 31, 2017 2:56 pm
Wed May 31, 2017 3:11 pm
CF14-SE14 wrote:dogfound wrote:CF14-SE14 wrote:is that even corny in the photo, doesn't even look like him
how you pple can laugh beats the hell out of me.
typical socialist tbh.they didnt blow me up..didnt blow my kids up. im alright jack.
Bollocks, I just don't believe the rubbish you believe.
He's a PACIFIST therefore he wouldn't be supporting a terrorist organisation would he?
He may have had dialogue with them, may have courted them, may have humoured them and may even have agreed with some of their aims, BUT he would never condone violence or terrorism as he's a proud and loud PACIFIST.
Which is why people like me laugh at the smear campaign by the right wing press who'll do anything to keep their minions in power.
I'm not a pacifist so I'd happily slap anyone in the IRA guilty of murdering children, I'd also happily slap the Unionist murderers and the British Army commanders who were also responsible for killing children.
Wed May 31, 2017 3:48 pm
dogfound wrote:CF14-SE14 wrote:dogfound wrote:CF14-SE14 wrote:is that even corny in the photo, doesn't even look like him
Totally agree corbyn is scum
how you pple can laugh beats the hell out of me.
typical socialist tbh.they didnt blow me up..didnt blow my kids up. im alright jack.
Bollocks, I just don't believe the rubbish you believe.
He's a PACIFIST therefore he wouldn't be supporting a terrorist organisation would he?
He may have had dialogue with them, may have courted them, may have humoured them and may even have agreed with some of their aims, BUT he would never condone violence or terrorism as he's a proud and loud PACIFIST.
Which is why people like me laugh at the smear campaign by the right wing press who'll do anything to keep their minions in power.
I'm not a pacifist so I'd happily slap anyone in the IRA guilty of murdering children, I'd also happily slap the Unionist murderers and the British Army commanders who were also responsible for killing children.
you dont believe what rubbish?
its not a f*cking smear campaign. the man is vile.
he couldnt even bring himself to comdemn the Warrington bombing which was dedsigned to destroy the ongoing peace process. AND 100% targeted children. not kids were caught up in it..not it was accidental. 2 bombs on a busy high street on a saturday..who you going to kill?
that picture is not photo shopped.. its Jeremy attending an IRA funeral..how many soldiers or victims of IRA bombs funerals did he attend.
for me this is way more important than if we pay 1p more in tax..or the NHS gets 1% more funding..infact politics fullstop.
the man at no point {until now } has ever condemned these awful acts..murders.of the innocent.
youd be far better off doing some research than accusing people of smear.
Wed May 31, 2017 6:20 pm
Wed May 31, 2017 9:11 pm
grange_end1927 wrote:Corbyn has never supported the IRA he claims...
BULL SHIT !!
Thu Jun 01, 2017 7:57 pm
wayne wrote:Is this what all tories are fighting the election on, Corbya was a IRA supporter, well its not working so change the record