Off topic ,bbc McCann doc tonight

Something doesn't add up about Maddie going missing ,the Portuguese police seem to think the parents were involved

I missed it. What side was it on for catchup?

Something doesn't add up about Maddie going missing ,the Portuguese police seem to think the parents were involved

we are never going to know mate.
but i reckon mr and mrs ordinary get a kid disappear while they were at bingo and slipping home during the intervals wouldnt be seeing much of the other 2 kids and would be on neglect charges.

Something doesn't add up about Maddie going missing ,the Portuguese police seem to think the parents were involved

Of course the parents are involved, they have done everything in their power to block the truth from coming out and have massively profited from manipulating the public, using donations to their 'find Madeleine' fund to pay off their own mortgage.

The parents have refused to take a lie detector test, refused to answer countless questions to cooperate with the Portuguese police and they did everything they could to block the Portuguese police from continuing their investigation.

They also tried getting the Portuguese detective who led the inquiry, Goncala Amaral's book 'The Truth of the Lie' banned from being sold because of the claims he made against them. The parents have recently lost their third court appeal to silence Amaral.

Wikileaks revealed police sketches giving some frightening speculation of who the suspects could be and what the suspects are a part of as well; but that's Wikileaks, so I will let everyone make up their own minds about that.

Whatever happened, the parents seem very happy for the truth to stay hidden. Sadly, Madeleine isn't the only child to go missing over the past 10 years, but it's only Madeleine we hear about in the press/media because I believe the parents have some friends in very high places.

Something doesn't add up about Maddie going missing ,the Portuguese police seem to think the parents were involved

we are never going to know mate.
but i reckon mr and mrs ordinary get a kid disappear while they were at bingo and slipping home during the intervals wouldnt be seeing much of the other 2 kids and would be on neglect charges.

In a nutshell 100% agree with this post
The parents ARE responsible for her disappearance for leaving her home alone I cannot fathom being a father to two children how they could enjoy a meal out knowing she was so far from them and not safe

The parents are idiots for what they did and I agree with what Dogfound said above.

I'm not convinced they had anything to do with it though tbh, the Portuguese Police were so incompetent and their theory was full of holes as shown in the program. We will probably never know the truth now.

I think that Tonteg sums it up perfectly.

Prison is where the parents should be right now for what they did to their daughter !!

The parents are idiots for what they did and I agree with what Dogfound said above.

I'm not convinced they had anything to do with it though tbh, the Portuguese Police were so incompetent and their theory was full of holes as shown in the program. We will probably never know the truth now.

Absolutely agree 100% with you on this one, the Portugese police were just incompetent and we will probably never know exactly what happened to Madeline McCann. Hopefully she is still alive and well somewhere and living some kind of "normal" life.

The parents behaviour was shocking leaving not just Maddie but 2 even younger children on their own. One thing I didn't realise which came out last night was that they left the patio doors to the apartment unlocked that evening....who the hell would do that if your 3 kids were alone in the apartment???

The McCann parents have always come across as strange and seemingly above the law...their story just doesn't seem to add up, but like I said the truth will probably never come out unfortunately.

I watched a Portuguese documentary a few years back and what it said on there really does make Maddies parents look very culpable. Think you can still see it on you tube.
We'll probably never know the truth, but one thing I do know, is that I hate Maddies parents with a passion.

In this country the social services would be on them,the doc left more unanswered question ,the toy being washed and the sniffer dogs detecting something in the hire car

I know that nowadays and ESP since this happened that parents/careers are a lot more careful and wouldn't let a child out of their sight however I remember going on hols years ago uk and abroad and parents would let me go off for ages into the sea (far from where they were) and when we abroad once I was left in bed in an apartment downstairs on my own and my older brother who was approx 16 at the time was in the upstairs apartment (which you accessed via a different door!) just saying like! I think years ago people probably did do that abit more. Perhaps the McCann's made a huge mistake that night and have paid the biggest price for it! Perhaps they look odd at times because they do t know how to act in public as they will get slated for any facial expression!

All that said.....something does give you a gut feeling that not is all as it seems about it but what I just dont know! I just feel awful for Maddie herself and what she may have gone through or if she is still alive - what she could be going through now!

Interesting read here speculating to Tony Podestas involvement

http://livingresistance.com/2016/11/18/ ... -analysis/

I know that nowadays and ESP since this happened that parents/careers are a lot more careful and wouldn't let a child out of their sight however I remember going on hols years ago uk and abroad and parents would let me go off for ages into the sea (far from where they were) and when we abroad once I was left in bed in an apartment downstairs on my own and my older brother who was approx 16 at the time was in the upstairs apartment (which you accessed via a different door!) just saying like! I think years ago people probably did do that abit more. Perhaps the McCann's made a huge mistake that night and have paid the biggest price for it! Perhaps they look odd at times because they do t know how to act in public as they will get slated for any facial expression!

All that said.....something does give you a gut feeling that not is all as it seems about it but what I just dont know! I just feel awful for Maddie herself and what she may have gone through or if she is still alive - what she could be going through now!

well i was brought up by very ordinary but loving parents who would never have gone out leaving me at home alone at such a young age. my wife and i never left our children and my children dont leave their kids. sorry this years ago thing is rubbish.shite parents are shite parents.

I know that nowadays and ESP since this happened that parents/careers are a lot more careful and wouldn't let a child out of their sight however I remember going on hols years ago uk and abroad and parents would let me go off for ages into the sea (far from where they were) and when we abroad once I was left in bed in an apartment downstairs on my own and my older brother who was approx 16 at the time was in the upstairs apartment (which you accessed via a different door!) just saying like! I think years ago people probably did do that abit more. Perhaps the McCann's made a huge mistake that night and have paid the biggest price for it! Perhaps they look odd at times because they do t know how to act in public as they will get slated for any facial expression!

All that said.....something does give you a gut feeling that not is all as it seems about it but what I just dont know! I just feel awful for Maddie herself and what she may have gone through or if she is still alive - what she could be going through now!

well i was brought up by very ordinary but loving parents who would never have gone out leaving me at home alone at such a young age. my wife and i never left our children and my children dont leave their kids. sorry this years ago thing is rubbish.shite parents are shite parents.

Couldn't agree more, I didn't stay home alone till my teens. How they were comfortable leaving those 3 babies (and Madeleine as far as I'm concerned was a baby) alone to go out eating and drinking amazes me I just couldn't.

Something doesn't add up about Maddie going missing ,the Portuguese police seem to think the parents were involved

Of course the parents are involved, they have done everything in their power to block the truth from coming out and have massively profited from manipulating the public, using donations to their 'find Madeleine' fund to pay off their own mortgage.

The parents have refused to take a lie detector test, refused to answer countless questions to cooperate with the Portuguese police and they did everything they could to block the Portuguese police from continuing their investigation.

They also tried getting the Portuguese detective who led the inquiry, Goncala Amaral's book 'The Truth of the Lie' banned from being sold because of the claims he made against them. The parents have recently lost their third court appeal to silence Amaral.

Wikileaks revealed police sketches giving some frightening speculation of who the suspects could be and what the suspects are a part of as well; but that's Wikileaks, so I will let everyone make up their own minds about that.

Whatever happened, the parents seem very happy for the truth to stay hidden. Sadly, Madeleine isn't the only child to go missing over the past 10 years, but it's only Madeleine we hear about in the press/media because I believe the parents have some friends in very high places.

Talk about putting a spin on something. Sorry your version is nonsense the McCann's are desperate to find their little girl. I would agree they were negligent in leaving their children alone in the apartment whilst they went to the Tapas Restaurant but to suggest they had anything to do with the disappearance is vulgar in the extreme.

I know that nowadays and ESP since this happened that parents/careers are a lot more careful and wouldn't let a child out of their sight however I remember going on hols years ago uk and abroad and parents would let me go off for ages into the sea (far from where they were) and when we abroad once I was left in bed in an apartment downstairs on my own and my older brother who was approx 16 at the time was in the upstairs apartment (which you accessed via a different door!) just saying like! I think years ago people probably did do that abit more. Perhaps the McCann's made a huge mistake that night and have paid the biggest price for it! Perhaps they look odd at times because they do t know how to act in public as they will get slated for any facial expression!

All that said.....something does give you a gut feeling that not is all as it seems about it but what I just dont know! I just feel awful for Maddie herself and what she may have gone through or if she is still alive - what she could be going through now!

well i was brought up by very ordinary but loving parents who would never have gone out leaving me at home alone at such a young age. my wife and i never left our children and my children dont leave their kids. sorry this years ago thing is rubbish.shite parents are shite parents.

Couldn't agree more, I didn't stay home alone till my teens. How they were comfortable leaving those 3 babies (and Madeleine as far as I'm concerned was a baby) alone to go out eating and drinking amazes me I just couldn't.

I would never defend them for leaving their children in the way they did, that was irresponsible and they took far too long to admit their mistake.

However, beating them constantly with that stick will do nothing in trying to find Madeleine and they certainly didn't have anything to do with her disappearance and I can't begin to understand the feelings they have gone through over the past 10 years because of it.

Something doesn't add up about Maddie going missing ,the Portuguese police seem to think the parents were involved

Of course the parents are involved, they have done everything in their power to block the truth from coming out and have massively profited from manipulating the public, using donations to their 'find Madeleine' fund to pay off their own mortgage.

The parents have refused to take a lie detector test, refused to answer countless questions to cooperate with the Portuguese police and they did everything they could to block the Portuguese police from continuing their investigation.

They also tried getting the Portuguese detective who led the inquiry, Goncala Amaral's book 'The Truth of the Lie' banned from being sold because of the claims he made against them. The parents have recently lost their third court appeal to silence Amaral.

Wikileaks revealed police sketches giving some frightening speculation of who the suspects could be and what the suspects are a part of as well; but that's Wikileaks, so I will let everyone make up their own minds about that.

Whatever happened, the parents seem very happy for the truth to stay hidden. Sadly, Madeleine isn't the only child to go missing over the past 10 years, but it's only Madeleine we hear about in the press/media because I believe the parents have some friends in very high places.

Talk about putting a spin on something. Sorry your version is nonsense the McCann's are desperate to find their little girl. I would agree they were negligent in leaving their children alone in the apartment whilst they went to the Tapas Restaurant but to suggest they had anything to do with the disappearance is vulgar in the extreme.

Agree with you (for once). They have been investigated and ruled out as suspects. Their "crime" was leaving their children unattended, and they have well and truly paid for that. There are always people who love a conspiracy theory, and I think Tonteg is one of those.

I know that nowadays and ESP since this happened that parents/careers are a lot more careful and wouldn't let a child out of their sight however I remember going on hols years ago uk and abroad and parents would let me go off for ages into the sea (far from where they were) and when we abroad once I was left in bed in an apartment downstairs on my own and my older brother who was approx 16 at the time was in the upstairs apartment (which you accessed via a different door!) just saying like! I think years ago people probably did do that abit more. Perhaps the McCann's made a huge mistake that night and have paid the biggest price for it! Perhaps they look odd at times because they do t know how to act in public as they will get slated for any facial expression!

All that said.....something does give you a gut feeling that not is all as it seems about it but what I just dont know! I just feel awful for Maddie herself and what she may have gone through or if she is still alive - what she could be going through now!

well i was brought up by very ordinary but loving parents who would never have gone out leaving me at home alone at such a young age. my wife and i never left our children and my children dont leave their kids. sorry this years ago thing is rubbish.shite parents are shite parents.

Couldn't agree more, I didn't stay home alone till my teens. How they were comfortable leaving those 3 babies (and Madeleine as far as I'm concerned was a baby) alone to go out eating and drinking amazes me I just couldn't.

Same here.

At three even if she had just woken up after a nightmare they should have been ashamed of themselves for leaving their daughter in a position where she would have been alone and scared.

I literally cant comprehend how anyone coild leave their child alone like that - and for the record i know no one who would leave their kids alone at that age then nor when i was a kid some thirty years ago.

Something doesn't add up about Maddie going missing ,the Portuguese police seem to think the parents were involved

Of course the parents are involved, they have done everything in their power to block the truth from coming out and have massively profited from manipulating the public, using donations to their 'find Madeleine' fund to pay off their own mortgage.

The parents have refused to take a lie detector test, refused to answer countless questions to cooperate with the Portuguese police and they did everything they could to block the Portuguese police from continuing their investigation.

They also tried getting the Portuguese detective who led the inquiry, Goncala Amaral's book 'The Truth of the Lie' banned from being sold because of the claims he made against them. The parents have recently lost their third court appeal to silence Amaral.

Wikileaks revealed police sketches giving some frightening speculation of who the suspects could be and what the suspects are a part of as well; but that's Wikileaks, so I will let everyone make up their own minds about that.

Whatever happened, the parents seem very happy for the truth to stay hidden. Sadly, Madeleine isn't the only child to go missing over the past 10 years, but it's only Madeleine we hear about in the press/media because I believe the parents have some friends in very high places.

Tend to agree.

If your child has just gone missing and the police are asking questions you just wouldn't say no comment to everyone.

I always thought they drugged her to keep her asleep and something went wrong and they disposed of her. Evil people and I don't think anyone would be surprised if later it turned out they were involved.

Something doesn't add up about Maddie going missing ,the Portuguese police seem to think the parents were involved

Of course the parents are involved, they have done everything in their power to block the truth from coming out and have massively profited from manipulating the public, using donations to their 'find Madeleine' fund to pay off their own mortgage.

The parents have refused to take a lie detector test, refused to answer countless questions to cooperate with the Portuguese police and they did everything they could to block the Portuguese police from continuing their investigation.

They also tried getting the Portuguese detective who led the inquiry, Goncala Amaral's book 'The Truth of the Lie' banned from being sold because of the claims he made against them. The parents have recently lost their third court appeal to silence Amaral.

Wikileaks revealed police sketches giving some frightening speculation of who the suspects could be and what the suspects are a part of as well; but that's Wikileaks, so I will let everyone make up their own minds about that.

Whatever happened, the parents seem very happy for the truth to stay hidden. Sadly, Madeleine isn't the only child to go missing over the past 10 years, but it's only Madeleine we hear about in the press/media because I believe the parents have some friends in very high places.

Quote (Tonteg Bluebird): " Of course they're involved..."

Ross, with respect no one truly knows, except for the actual perpetrator(s) and maybe the parents themselves (the latter of which I very much doubt, as they have been investigated more than fully by the UK Police and by some other capable agencies

We cannot make sweeping statements and assumptions like that when even the 'experts' don't really know; or if they do, can't prove it to any acceptable scale

I will agree that their whole demeanour throughout and their constant desire to reman in the limelight leaves questions, but then I ask what I would do if it was my daughter who was missing? I can state now there is nothing I wouldn't do to find her and keep her name in the media

Perhaps, this is where the McCann's have been very very lucky for so long, as others might have been left to their own devices long before

Look I get what your saying the parents look strange sometimes in terms of how they behave but how on earth are they supposed to behave? If they are too over dramatic than they will get called false, if they appear completely quiet an cold that would look odd according to many I'm sure, so I guess they are behaving somewhere in the middle? I just think if they did have something to do with it surely they would want things to go quiet....not keep bringing it up all these years in the media - if they did it then the police have done a horrendous job then because they have had years to watch and question them! I just don't see how you would want it popping it all the time and being accused of it - if you actually did do it! Yes there is obviously a chance it could be them but IMO I think it's unlikely - I just think like I said before they've made a terrible mistake and will pay for it for the rest of their lives.

If they did actually do it and are covering it up - then blimey to keep that up for the years is beyond many people capabilities! People let their guard down after a while. Do t get me wrong I don't know and nor do you really.....I just hope the poor girl didn't suffer or suffering either way.

Look I get what your saying the parents look strange sometimes in terms of how they behave but how on earth are they supposed to behave? If they are too over dramatic than they will get called false, if they appear completely quiet an cold that would look odd according to many I'm sure, so I guess they are behaving somewhere in the middle? I just think if they did have something to do with it surely they would want things to go quiet....not keep bringing it up all these years in the media - if they did it then the police have done a horrendous job then because they have had years to watch and question them! I just don't see how you would want it popping it all the time and being accused of it - if you actually did do it! Yes there is obviously a chance it could be them but IMO I think it's unlikely - I just think like I said before they've made a terrible mistake and will pay for it for the rest of their lives.

If they did actually do it and are covering it up - then blimey to keep that up for the years is beyond many people capabilities! People let their guard down after a while. Do t get me wrong I don't know and nor do you really.....I just hope the poor girl didn't suffer or suffering either way.

That's how I feel. If they had anything at all to do with it, they would hope that people would forget about it over a period of time, and that it would fade into a distant memory. They are hardly likely to keep this case and themselves in the public eye for ten years if they had any link to what happened. They have been thoroughly investigated and are not considered suspects. That does'nt excuse them from leaving a child of that age unattended, and I would never have left my children alone at that age, even to pop next door for a minute.

Look I get what your saying the parents look strange sometimes in terms of how they behave but how on earth are they supposed to behave? If they are too over dramatic than they will get called false, if they appear completely quiet an cold that would look odd according to many I'm sure, so I guess they are behaving somewhere in the middle? I just think if they did have something to do with it surely they would want things to go quiet....not keep bringing it up all these years in the media - if they did it then the police have done a horrendous job then because they have had years to watch and question them! I just don't see how you would want it popping it all the time and being accused of it - if you actually did do it! Yes there is obviously a chance it could be them but IMO I think it's unlikely - I just think like I said before they've made a terrible mistake and will pay for it for the rest of their lives.

If they did actually do it and are covering it up - then blimey to keep that up for the years is beyond many people capabilities! People let their guard down after a while. Do t get me wrong I don't know and nor do you really.....I just hope the poor girl didn't suffer or suffering either way.

That's how I feel. If they had anything at all to do with it, they would hope that people would forget about it over a period of time, and that it would fade into a distant memory. They are hardly likely to keep this case and themselves in the public eye for ten years if they had any link to what happened. They have been thoroughly investigated and are not considered suspects. That does'nt excuse them from leaving a child of that age unattended, and I would never have left my children alone at that age, even to pop next door for a minute.

Oh gosh I'd never leave a child on their own like they did but perhaps they were on hols and just relaxed to the point that they were abit too complacent of anything happening. We go on holiday every year in the Uk and take the dog and I wouldn't leave my dog in the holiday cottage or hotel room on her own for a few mins or longer let alone a child, you don't know who's about! That extends to leaving the dog in a car or tied up up outside a shop - anyone could pinch her so I do find it hard to understand why they left them but IMO I still believe they did it.

Something doesn't add up about Maddie going missing ,the Portuguese police seem to think the parents were involved

Of course the parents are involved, they have done everything in their power to block the truth from coming out and have massively profited from manipulating the public, using donations to their 'find Madeleine' fund to pay off their own mortgage.

The parents have refused to take a lie detector test, refused to answer countless questions to cooperate with the Portuguese police and they did everything they could to block the Portuguese police from continuing their investigation.

They also tried getting the Portuguese detective who led the inquiry, Goncala Amaral's book 'The Truth of the Lie' banned from being sold because of the claims he made against them. The parents have recently lost their third court appeal to silence Amaral.

Wikileaks revealed police sketches giving some frightening speculation of who the suspects could be and what the suspects are a part of as well; but that's Wikileaks, so I will let everyone make up their own minds about that.

Whatever happened, the parents seem very happy for the truth to stay hidden. Sadly, Madeleine isn't the only child to go missing over the past 10 years, but it's only Madeleine we hear about in the press/media because I believe the parents have some friends in very high places.

Talk about putting a spin on something. Sorry your version is nonsense the McCann's are desperate to find their little girl. I would agree they were negligent in leaving their children alone in the apartment whilst they went to the Tapas Restaurant but to suggest they had anything to do with the disappearance is vulgar in the extreme.

Hi Gerry

The parents are idiots for what they did and I agree with what Dogfound said above.

I'm not convinced they had anything to do with it though tbh, the Portuguese Police were so incompetent and their theory was full of holes as shown in the program. We will probably never know the truth now.

Absolutely agree 100% with you on this one, the Portugese police were just incompetent and we will probably never know exactly what happened to Madeline McCann. Hopefully she is still alive and well somewhere and living some kind of "normal" life.

The parents behaviour was shocking leaving not just Maddie but 2 even younger children on their own. One thing I didn't realise which came out last night was that they left the patio doors to the apartment unlocked that evening....who the hell would do that if your 3 kids were alone in the apartment???

The McCann parents have always come across as strange and seemingly above the law...their story just doesn't seem to add up, but like I said the truth will probably never come out unfortunately.

The one thing that I simply couldn't understand was the bit about leaving the patio doors unlocked? WHY?
That to me just highlights their extraordinary naivety and these are supposed to be well educated people?

The parents are idiots for what they did and I agree with what Dogfound said above.

I'm not convinced they had anything to do with it though tbh, the Portuguese Police were so incompetent and their theory was full of holes as shown in the program. We will probably never know the truth now.

Absolutely agree 100% with you on this one, the Portugese police were just incompetent and we will probably never know exactly what happened to Madeline McCann. Hopefully she is still alive and well somewhere and living some kind of "normal" life.

The parents behaviour was shocking leaving not just Maddie but 2 even younger children on their own. One thing I didn't realise which came out last night was that they left the patio doors to the apartment unlocked that evening....who the hell would do that if your 3 kids were alone in the apartment???

The McCann parents have always come across as strange and seemingly above the law...their story just doesn't seem to add up, but like I said the truth will probably never come out unfortunately.

The one thing that I simply couldn't understand was the bit about leaving the patio doors unlocked? WHY?
That to me just highlights their extraordinary naivety and these are supposed to be well educated people?

Couldn't agree more..I remember taking my 6 month old daughter on holiday to an hotel in Cornwall.

My wife and I went down to the bar for a drink..our room door was locked and on the ground floor about 20 yards from the bar the room also had a baby listening device which the hotel receptionist could hear at all times. We lasted about 3 minutes before we went back to the room just didn't seem right as we were both on edge.

To leave the patio door unlocked in an apartment which they couldn't see 75 yards away, on the side of a road in a foreign country just defies belief.

No worries for Dianne Abbot getting more police, the members of this forum are all detectives all of a sudden as well at the rest of the UK

No worries for Dianne Abbot getting more police, the members of this forum are all detectives all of a sudden as well at the rest of the UK

Cardiff fans are allowed opinions and allowed to express them in public. Can't be much fun being a West Ham fan if free speech is banned.

Something doesn't add up about Maddie going missing ,the Portuguese police seem to think the parents were involved

Of course the parents are involved, they have done everything in their power to block the truth from coming out and have massively profited from manipulating the public, using donations to their 'find Madeleine' fund to pay off their own mortgage.

The parents have refused to take a lie detector test, refused to answer countless questions to cooperate with the Portuguese police and they did everything they could to block the Portuguese police from continuing their investigation.

They also tried getting the Portuguese detective who led the inquiry, Goncala Amaral's book 'The Truth of the Lie' banned from being sold because of the claims he made against them. The parents have recently lost their third court appeal to silence Amaral.

Wikileaks revealed police sketches giving some frightening speculation of who the suspects could be and what the suspects are a part of as well; but that's Wikileaks, so I will let everyone make up their own minds about that.

Whatever happened, the parents seem very happy for the truth to stay hidden. Sadly, Madeleine isn't the only child to go missing over the past 10 years, but it's only Madeleine we hear about in the press/media because I believe the parents have some friends in very high places.

Talk about putting a spin on something. Sorry your version is nonsense the McCann's are desperate to find their little girl. I would agree they were negligent in leaving their children alone in the apartment whilst they went to the Tapas Restaurant but to suggest they had anything to do with the disappearance is vulgar in the extreme.

Hi Gerry

How pathetic

The parents are idiots for what they did and I agree with what Dogfound said above.

I'm not convinced they had anything to do with it though tbh, the Portuguese Police were so incompetent and their theory was full of holes as shown in the program. We will probably never know the truth now.

Absolutely agree 100% with you on this one, the Portugese police were just incompetent and we will probably never know exactly what happened to Madeline McCann. Hopefully she is still alive and well somewhere and living some kind of "normal" life.

The parents behaviour was shocking leaving not just Maddie but 2 even younger children on their own. One thing I didn't realise which came out last night was that they left the patio doors to the apartment unlocked that evening....who the hell would do that if your 3 kids were alone in the apartment???

The McCann parents have always come across as strange and seemingly above the law...their story just doesn't seem to add up, but like I said the truth will probably never come out unfortunately.

The one thing that I simply couldn't understand was the bit about leaving the patio doors unlocked? WHY?
That to me just highlights their extraordinary naivety and these are supposed to be well educated people?

As already stated the McCann's were wrong to leave their children unattended.

However, leaving the patio door open could be explained by in the event of a fire the children or anyone offering assistance would need quick access. Also apparently they were being checked on regularly by other members of the group who would also need access.

That doesn't absolve them from neglect but it is a credible reason why the door was left unlocked.