Some Cardiff Fans say we should not talk about the past

But what evers happened in Cardiff's past is our History and should never be forgotten,from the bad days to the Glory days

Its good to talk about our history good or bad and be allowed to debate it, because we love our club we want to discuss all of our history.

Many dwell on 1927, many dwell on City beating Real Madrid, many dwell on John Toshack leaving, Eddie May, Allan Durban, etc., etc. If thats what a City fan wants to talk about, he should feel free to do so, not shot down, not be told they can't. We are in a free world and should say what we believe or want to do

I wonder if the usual suspects will still say we can't?

90 years ago today!! CardiffCity FC win the FA Cup by beating Arsenal 1-0 1927

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Talking about the past is fine,dwelling on it,not so good.

Talking about the past is fine,dwelling on it,not so good.

Always one

Thats how you feel, but many of our fans still like to dwell on 1927,Eddie May,Allan Durban, why are there fans/people like you who say they should not?
Surely its up to them? or are you a Dictator who says that they can't?


Every person/fan should talk about what they want, not be told not to or move on as some say.


Its funny our club brings back old City players and bring up in the programmes what happened years ago.

1927 is still mentioned by thousands and may still cling on to it/dwell on it, who are you to say they can't?

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I'm proud of our history, and proud to talk about. Match days would be less enjoyable if we can't talk about it.

I'm proud of our history, and proud to talk about. Match days would be less enjoyable if we can't talk about it.

Spot on and on coach trips,in the pubs, on forums its all about discussing Cardiff City's history and future Good or bad and thats part and parcel of being a football fan

I see both points of view. Being proud of what a club has achieved is fine, talking about it openly is fine. Dwelling on it may stunt the forward thinking ambitions of both fan and club. Swansea beat Real Madrid 3-0 away and it never gets a mention because like the 1927 Cup win, people would have to be around 100 years old to remember it, nobody remembers it as nobody was alive back then (or very few at least) so "reminiscing" as such on subjects like that seems a tad disingenuous. The League Cup in 2013, beating European Champions over 2 legs without conceding a goal, beating Man United 4 times out of 5 home and away, doing the doubke over Arsenal and Man United, 3-0 away to Valencia... These barely get a mention these days but are very special memories, focus is purely on what is still to be achieved not what we already have done.... Let aone a century ago. Very proud and will happily chat about those achievements though, but not at the expense of dwelling on them.

I still love to talk about it even though Dave Jones said we never had any history,wonder what he's doing know,have a shit night Dave

I see both points of view. Being proud of what a club has achieved is fine, talking about it openly is fine. Dwelling on it may stunt the forward thinking ambitions of both fan and club. Swansea beat Real Madrid 3-0 away and it never gets a mention because like the 1927 Cup win, people would have to be around 100 years old to remember it, nobody remembers it as nobody was alive back then (or very few at least) so "reminiscing" as such on subjects like that seems a tad disingenuous. The League Cup in 2013, beating European Champions over 2 legs without conceding a goal, beating Man United 4 times out of 5 home and away, doing the doubke over Arsenal and Man United, 3-0 away to Valencia... These barely get a mention these days but are very special memories, focus is purely on what is still to be achieved not what we already have done.... Let aone a century ago. Very proud and will happily chat about those achievements though, but not at the expense of dwelling on them.

Jack I don't know hardly any of your history and personally I don't want to.

As to dwelling on our 1927 victory, Eddie May years or even the Allan Durban years etc fans will keep doing that and if thats how they go about their lives, which millions do,so be it,who are we to say they can't or should move on?

Every fan I meet from other clubs will always bring up part of their old days etc

I still love to talk about it even though Dave Jones said we never had any history,wonder what he's doing know,have a shit night Dave

I remember him saying that and DJ downed the Cardiff/Swansea derby match

Jack I don't know hardly any of your history and personally I don't want to.

As to dwelling on our 1927 victory, Eddie May years or even the Allan Durban years etc fans will keep doing that and if thats how they go about their lives, which millions do,so be it,who are we to say they can't or should move on?

Every fan I meet from other clubs will always bring up part of their old days etc

It's a fair point and I do agree. But what I am trying to say is that the moment you let the past define the present is when you probably stop looking to improve, that goes for the club as a whole. I think that has been the scurge of Leeds, Forest and to an extent Liverpool for a very long time.

Be proud, chat to your hearts content about those days but be clear that those days are oit as important as the here and now. Thats what I was trying to say.

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Talking about the past is fine,dwelling on it,not so good.

Always one

Thats how you feel, but many of our fans still like to dwell on 1927,Eddie May,Allan Durban, why are there fans/people like you who say they should not?
Surely its up to them? or are you a Dictator who says that they can't?


Every person/fan should talk about what they want, not be told not to or move on as some say.


Its funny our club brings back old City players and bring up in the programmes what happened years ago.

1927 is still mentioned by thousands and may still cling on to it/dwell on it, who are you to say they can't?

Fuckin ell,bit touchy this morning arn't we?

No-one likes a natter more about all things CCFC than me,I was just talking generally but as YOU brought it up I've seen people that can't move on from a trauma in life become embittered and full of rage and hatred and as a result lose sight of whats important in life.Very unhealthy place to be.

History to me means less about results and more about in my case family, l was firstly taken to games by,grand father ,father then you get to take your son and your grand son that's history to me ,we all think back to great games with big crowds but l remember the buzz of seeing my son after winning games in front of crowds of 2000 those memories are just as great for me

Talking about the past is fine,dwelling on it,not so good.

Always one

Thats how you feel, but many of our fans still like to dwell on 1927,Eddie May,Allan Durban, why are there fans/people like you who say they should not?
Surely its up to them? or are you a Dictator who says that they can't?


Every person/fan should talk about what they want, not be told not to or move on as some say.


Its funny our club brings back old City players and bring up in the programmes what happened years ago.

1927 is still mentioned by thousands and may still cling on to it/dwell on it, who are you to say they can't?

Fuckin ell,bit touchy this morning arn't we?

No-one likes a natter more about all things CCFC than me,I was just talking generally but as YOU brought it up I've seen people that can't move on from a trauma in life become embittered and full of rage and hatred and as a result lose sight of whats important in life.Very unhealthy place to be.

Martin, Not touchy at all, I am showing that No one should ever be told by another fan to move on or not to discuss something.

Football is all about good banter, be it the good or bad of your clubs history or future.

On coach trips, its all about whats going to happen today, then many start bringing up parts of history and theres always some great debates/discussions and banter, maybe its because we are in person and I find it very healthy

I think word 'Dwelling' implies a negative. Like over thinking or regretting. I don't think any city fan would Dwell over 1927

I think word 'Dwelling' implies a negative. Like over thinking or regretting. I don't think any city fan would Dwell over 1927

Jack you be shocked some older fans still dwell on John Toshack and he's brought up on many occasions.

History to me means less about results and more about in my case family, l was firstly taken to games by,grand father ,father then you get to take your son and your grand son that's history to me ,we all think back to great games with big crowds but l remember the buzz of seeing my son after winning games in front of crowds of 2000 those memories are just as great for me

To be fair I still tell other fans about my first Cardiff game in 1972 and enjoy talking about it

Its good Talking about past but usually it's a healthy debate! But if people want to dwell on a particular part and not let it go that's their parogative? Life is to short personally to let it bother me, especially as it no longer exists?

Its good Talking about past but usually it's a healthy debate! But if people want to dwell on a particular part and not let it go that's their parogative? Life is to short personally to let it bother me, especially as it no longer exists?

Allan,
Well I know we are not still the FA CUP holders and I know John Toshack is no longer to do with Cardiff, but fans like to still talk about them and will do in many years to come and rightly so

History to me means less about results and more about in my case family, l was firstly taken to games by,grand father ,father then you get to take your son and your grand son that's history to me ,we all think back to great games with big crowds but l remember the buzz of seeing my son after winning games in front of crowds of 2000 those memories are just as great for me

To be fair I still tell other fans about my first Cardiff game in 1972 and enjoy talking about it

1972?
Call yourself a fan?

History to me means less about results and more about in my case family, l was firstly taken to games by,grand father ,father then you get to take your son and your grand son that's history to me ,we all think back to great games with big crowds but l remember the buzz of seeing my son after winning games in front of crowds of 2000 those memories are just as great for me

To be fair I still tell other fans about my first Cardiff game in 1972 and enjoy talking about it

1972?
Call yourself a fan?

Its good Talking about past but usually it's a healthy debate! But if people want to dwell on a particular part and not let it go that's their parogative? Life is to short personally to let it bother me, especially as it no longer exists?

Allan,
Well I know we are not still the FA CUP holders and I know John Toshack is no longer to do with Cardiff, but fans like to still talk about them and will do in many years to come and rightly so

Quite agree and board blamed for selling tosh and ultimately robbing us of promotion ! But sure fans don't hold a grudge against them? Like said it's anyone's porogotive how they view the past but it is the past and life moves on just like our club.

Name me a club that does not take pride in their history?

Nothing wrong with it at all

Name me a club that does not take pride in their history?

Nothing wrong with it at all

I agree. You can't be proud of the future because we don't have a crystal ball. Can be proud of our past in the same way as Wales will be proud of their performance in the Euros for many years to come, and in the same way as England are still proud of what happened in 1966.

I think word 'Dwelling' implies a negative. Like over thinking or regretting. I don't think any city fan would Dwell over 1927

Jack you be shocked some older fans still dwell on John Toshack and he's brought up on many occasions.

Haha

I see both points of view. Being proud of what a club has achieved is fine, talking about it openly is fine. Dwelling on it may stunt the forward thinking ambitions of both fan and club. Swansea beat Real Madrid 3-0 away and it never gets a mention because like the 1927 Cup win, people would have to be around 100 years old to remember it, nobody remembers it as nobody was alive back then (or very few at least) so "reminiscing" as such on subjects like that seems a tad disingenuous. The League Cup in 2013, beating European Champions over 2 legs without conceding a goal, beating Man United 4 times out of 5 home and away, doing the doubke over Arsenal and Man United, 3-0 away to Valencia... These barely get a mention these days but are very special memories, focus is purely on what is still to be achieved not what we already have done.... Let aone a century ago. Very proud and will happily chat about those achievements though, but not at the expense of dwelling on them.

I would be interested for you to confirm When Swansea Town/City beat Real Madrid 3 - 0. I am surprised that I have never heard of such a result. and all my searches have been negative, not even a mention of a Swansea Real Fixture in their Competition Records.

Its good Talking about past but usually it's a healthy debate! But if people want to dwell on a particular part and not let it go that's their parogative? Life is to short personally to let it bother me, especially as it no longer exists?

Allan,
Well I know we are not still the FA CUP holders and I know John Toshack is no longer to do with Cardiff, but fans like to still talk about them and will do in many years to come and rightly so

Quite agree and board blamed for selling tosh and ultimately robbing us of promotion ! But sure fans don't hold a grudge against them? Like said it's anyone's porogotive how they view the past but it is the past and life moves on just like our club.

Totally Wrong Allan.

Cardiff fans did blame the board for many many years, saying lack of ambition by them.

Life does move on, but we still talk about World War 1 and 2 and the Vikings and The Romans , do we not, Allan, you will argue even when its black and white

I see both points of view. Being proud of what a club has achieved is fine, talking about it openly is fine. Dwelling on it may stunt the forward thinking ambitions of both fan and club. Swansea beat Real Madrid 3-0 away and it never gets a mention because like the 1927 Cup win, people would have to be around 100 years old to remember it, nobody remembers it as nobody was alive back then (or very few at least) so "reminiscing" as such on subjects like that seems a tad disingenuous. The League Cup in 2013, beating European Champions over 2 legs without conceding a goal, beating Man United 4 times out of 5 home and away, doing the doubke over Arsenal and Man United, 3-0 away to Valencia... These barely get a mention these days but are very special memories, focus is purely on what is still to be achieved not what we already have done.... Let aone a century ago. Very proud and will happily chat about those achievements though, but not at the expense of dwelling on them.

I would be interested for you to confirm When Swansea Town/City beat Real Madrid 3 - 0. I am surprised that I have never heard of such a result. and all my searches have been negative, not even a mention of a Swansea Real Fixture in their Competition Records.

Don't bother Danny he is one deluded Jack and the only evidence he needs is his own imagination. Best to ignore him otherwise we will have another thread hi'jacked'

I would be interested for you to confirm When Swansea Town/City beat Real Madrid 3 - 0. I am surprised that I have never heard of such a result. and all my searches have been negative, not even a mention of a Swansea Real Fixture in their Competition Records.

1926/27

I see both points of view. Being proud of what a club has achieved is fine, talking about it openly is fine. Dwelling on it may stunt the forward thinking ambitions of both fan and club. Swansea beat Real Madrid 3-0 away and it never gets a mention because like the 1927 Cup win, people would have to be around 100 years old to remember it, nobody remembers it as nobody was alive back then (or very few at least) so "reminiscing" as such on subjects like that seems a tad disingenuous. The League Cup in 2013, beating European Champions over 2 legs without conceding a goal, beating Man United 4 times out of 5 home and away, doing the doubke over Arsenal and Man United, 3-0 away to Valencia... These barely get a mention these days but are very special memories, focus is purely on what is still to be achieved not what we already have done.... Let aone a century ago. Very proud and will happily chat about those achievements though, but not at the expense of dwelling on them.

I would be interested for you to confirm When Swansea Town/City beat Real Madrid 3 - 0. I am surprised that I have never heard of such a result. and all my searches have been negative, not even a mention of a Swansea Real Fixture in their Competition Records.

Don't bother Danny he is one deluded Jack and the only evidence he needs is his own imagination. Best to ignore him otherwise we will have another thread hi'jacked'

Cheers Tony understood.